[FairfieldLife] Re: Zurich-area Teacher Sought
I'm not aware of the list, Imgegerd. Can you please direct me to it? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can take contact with -Theo Fehre on the list Independent TM- Teachers. Maybe he can help you. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just returned from 3 weeks in Switzerland, including a few days around Lake Lucerne visiting some of the places I took ATRs back in the 1970s, which was both nostalgic and fun. I made some good friends who want to learn TM, so I'm trying to find them a teacher in the Switzerland / southern Germany region who is both recommended and teaches for a reasonable fee. Do any of you know of such a teacher? Thanks in advance for your help. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
Rick Archer wrote: on 6/21/05 11:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back, Rory! You were in ff? Thank you, gf! Yes; was and am. FF just keeps getting better and better. Now (somewhat to our surprise) we have become semi-permanent residents. And we're VERY glad to have you. Let that be an invitation to ya'll. The more cool people we throw into the mix here, the better it gets. Housing is affordable, traffic and crime and negligible, employment is erratic, but if you're self-employed, it's ideal. Mountains and oceans are a bit scarce, but maybe after the earth changes If you could mellow out the Winters and Summers, you could add one more old 'ru to the population! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Zurich-area Teacher Sought
FFL -) Links -) Independent TM-Teachers But you can also go directly to http://www.i-p-p-m.de The Contact person is Theo Fehr. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not aware of the list, Imgegerd. Can you please direct me to it? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can take contact with -Theo Fehre on the list Independent TM- Teachers. Maybe he can help you. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just returned from 3 weeks in Switzerland, including a few days around Lake Lucerne visiting some of the places I took ATRs back in the 1970s, which was both nostalgic and fun. I made some good friends who want to learn TM, so I'm trying to find them a teacher in the Switzerland / southern Germany region who is both recommended and teaches for a reasonable fee. Do any of you know of such a teacher? Thanks in advance for your help. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, MY understanding is that MMY used Shankara's description of meditation as dying the cloth, combined with the traditional Patanjali discussion of mind fluctuations, all wrapped up in western terminology ala Hans Selye... But hey, maybe he read Dianetics first. As I think I've mentioned before here, I doubt he's ever really read anything of the literature of Scientology or any other spiritual tradition. But Maharishi had a strong core follower in the early days of the movement who had been L. Ron Hubbard's personal secretary for many, many years, and she probably told him a few things about Hubbard. I remember at Squaw Valley 1968 she mentioned her personal feelings that Hubbard was probably the most brilliant man she had ever met, but was at the same time (in her exact word) certifiable. She felt that he had a streak of paranoia that influenced everything he ever did or wrote. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
I just came back from pushing an elephant uphill with my dick. It was surprisingly easy. Now I just have to deal with all the legal ramifications. Not just that. When I brought up this metaphor, I forgot to mention that elephants believe in turnabout is fair play. :-) They are also known to have long... well, memories... But they only mate once every seven years or so, so I suspect that Dr. Pete is in no immediate danger... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
My question though is, if in enlightenment the Knower is the infinite Self, no longer the point ego, which effectively gets overridden (apart from its organizing functions), then you are left with a Self and a perceiving body. There might well be an experience of Self in all beings/ all beings in Self but how true can that be if it remains exclusively linked to the original point body and its perceptions? As such it's just like a glorified relative ego blessed with blissful oceanic feelings. It would only be a true cosmic Self if, moving from infinity to point, it no longer is exclusively linked to the original point body, since Self is omnipresent, at every point. That would make it less relative than before, since it would now be linked with an infinity of points of perception. You mention omniscience.. well if there is only ONE Knower anyway... presumably in Unity this happens? Otherwise again it would be a point hallucinating infinity, with no reality to it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/21/05 4:54 AM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this has come up before in FFL, but if upon enlightenment there is consciousness (transcendental) and relative experience, and the consciousness is infinite value and experience point value, I find it odd that the two remain correlated via the ONE body. Enlightenment is the ability to embody all paradoxical realities. Take an actor having overall awareness (infinite value) and he acts three characters in a play (point value). Speaking as each character in turn he operates within the limitations their respective egos - but as the only reality the actor knows exactly what these egos perceive and can or cannot say or do. Whereas, returning to Consciousness, in the case of someone claiming enlightenment, there seems to be only knowledge of the one body and ego that existed prior to enlightenment. Is such enlightenment still relative then, and is there another more profound level to reach in which truly one would experience everything as the Self, this Self being truly INTIMATELY cognissant of the egos and bodies of ALL creatures? Because only THEN it becomes possible to love one's neighbour as one's Self AND have the sense that a wrong done to another is truly a wrong done to one's self as well. Sounds like you're alluding to omniscience. I think we can know ourSelf as the Self in all beings and see all beings in the Self without actually perceiving through the senses of all beings. That would be a relative ability, and enlightenment is not defined by relative abilities. In other words, stage 1 enlightenment is the expansion of point to infinity; stage 2, the linking back of infinity to ALL relative points, enabling the original point to know all other points intimately, directly.. Does this tally with any scripture, I wonder. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beacon Light lectures
I have only a copy with MMYs speach incl. a picture of Guru Dev with Rashtrapathi. It is also a picture of Rashtrapathi with a group of people incl. MMY, when Rashtrapathi came to pay respect to Guru Dev, 04th December 1952. (Not of good quality). Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone got a copy of the 'complete' publication of these lectures from 1955, including the contributions from speakers other than MMY ? There were photographs included too, but these are of secondary importance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc Sounds like a great gig, being there and enjoying happenings like the one you describe. Do you speak French? If not, how is it living there w/o it? In the last several years I have found myself attracted to France but have never been, and don't speak the language. Well, I have to admit to having been somewhat lazy with the development of my French. I work for a French company, but one in the computer industry (which runs on English) and in which everyone speaks English, and in which all of the documentation and training materials and programs I write are done in English. So there has been (fortunately for me in terms of finding work, unfortunately for me in terms of learning French) not the immersion factor at work that would have improved my French drastically. I can read most things in French, and understand most of what is said. My weakness is in speaking French well. I can get by, but French grammar is very precise, and my French is, as yet, far from precise. I have the same problems everyone has -- with the gender of nouns, the exact verb form to use, etc. But I'm working on it. This summer I get to live in a small town in the south, where almost no one speaks English, so I will finally be forced into the immersion scenario I need to progress. The more general answer to your question is that you can get by adequately in Paris knowing very little French, because English has emerged as the international language of tourism, just as it is the international language of business and computing. But in the smaller towns and provinces, you'd be much happier knowing more French. IMO, the best way to learn whether one really has a feel for France or not is to visit, and travel around. There is an old saying here that is completely accurate -- There is Paris, and then there is France. The two are not synonymous. Paris, although arguably one of the world's most beautiful and livable cities, is not France. It's Paris, its own universe. The outlying areas of France are very, very, very different. Most different, for a meditator, in terms of the level of silence. When you get into the outlying areas, especially down south, in some of the less populous areas, meditation becomes just something you surrender to, not something you do. The level of silence is that profound. In Paris, there is an astounding level of silence for a city this large and dynamic, but it's not the same. Hope this helps, Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you stay in, try: http://192.168.0.10:8100 It might help to have iTunes and a broadband connection, but there's some rare Bruce C. there... Sounds interesting, but the site wouldn't open for me. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been there, and without the French people France have a potential of being a nice place. Funny, I feel the same way about America. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' Rare Excommunication a Setback for Hollywood Star The Church of Scientology dealt an unexpected blow to actor Tom Cruise today, excommunicating the Hollywood star for being too weird. Well, I guess this shows that some of the issues we've been discussing lately with organizations being more concerned about their public image than with their members is not restricted to the TMO. Where did the idea that individuals can be spiritual and still be individuals get lost along the way? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could the vast majority be characterized as from a particular sector, e.g. fundamentalist or conservative Christian? It always seemed to me that the vast majority were Christian cult buster types--which is kinda funny as I would consider these fundie types would fit the description of cult mentality quite well on their own... In my experience, yes. The vast majority. Another subset of the anti-cult types, interestingly enough, are the people who pride themselves on being rationalists or skeptics. Such folks take almost a cult-like pride in believing in *nothing* that smacks of extrasensory or hypernormal phenomena, and react to anything out of the mainstream with the same vehemence that a fundie Christian might. Fascinating. One could say that the common denominator in both cases is the rigidity of their underlying belief system and the level of personal identification they have with that rigid belief system. Anything that appears to contradict the belief system is perceived as a personal attack against them, because they have identified with their belief system so strongly. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, pasted the wrong IP... Should have been http://70.33.152.115:8100/ Merry Solstice. Thanks Alex you net wiz! Still doesn't work for me. Go figure. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, seems like some people in South florida have a problem with this type of activity. So Kali yuga of them, isn't it? --There are no hills in S Florida. That explains how Dr. Pete could pull off the elephant thang so easily... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Keith Jarrett's Radiance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for turning me onto him. [Keith Jarrett] He's one of those things one wants to share. Absolutely remarkable artist. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ You know that you have created God in your own image when He hates the same people you hate -- Gordon Charrick To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
Electricity went off overnight. Just rebooted the server, so feel free to try again! You will most likely need itunes (which will install Quicktime) or something that will play AAC files for you. On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, pasted the wrong IP... Should have been http://70.33.152.115:8100/ Merry Solstice. Thanks Alex you net wiz! Still doesn't work for me. Go figure. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beacon Light lectures
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have only a copy with MMYs speach incl. a picture of Guru Dev with Rashtrapathi. It is also a picture of Rashtrapathi with a group of people incl. MMY, when Rashtrapathi came to pay respect to Guru Dev, 04th December 1952. (Not of good quality). Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone got a copy of the 'complete' publication of these lectures from 1955, including the contributions from speakers other than MMY ? There were photographs included too, but these are of secondary importance. I'd love to be able to look at these and copy them. Incidentally, I am always looking for material on Guru Dev, including publications with a mention of him, photographs and recordings. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Electricity went off overnight. Just rebooted the server, so feel free to try again! Thanks, that worked. I was familiar with all the Bruce Cockburn raries, having a rather large collection of them myself, but some of the other tunes were cool to hear. Thanks. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, seems like some people in South florida have a problem with this type of activity. So Kali yuga of them, isn't it? --There are no hills in S Florida. That explains how Dr. Pete could pull off the elephant thang so easily... :-) Hills are a matter of perspective To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/21/05 5:17 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the time in the movement I was sort of on an island within the movement, agroup between 10 to max. 30 people, who were sworn together, and that was the Meru Press. Did you know Hartmut Beyerbach? He was a friend of mine and used to run the press. I think he left in 1977 or so. YES. Yes, he was my first boss. We left on the same day the press, he for 6 month course and I for phase I. (After him Eberhard overtook the press. With whom I spent most time. I think he is still doing it, and whatever is still there from the machines went to India, to Japalbur,) After his course I heard he went to Muktananda, who had seen Maharishi in 76 in Seelisberg. After Muktananda he went to Osho. He organized the first Sannyas discos in Germany that were a big success. I met him again only in 1993 when I sat next to him in Lucknow at Poonjaji. He told me that there was another guy in the press who was enlightened called Arjuna, whith whom he was in the US. At that time he was living in the US and had a japanese wife AFAIK. I saw Arjuna just two weeks ago, when he came to our place. On Purusha I found a similar situation with acertain group of people which was self-selected, that is the people whom you liked to hang out with. That was not necessarily your official group. When I left, that is, I had to leave - it was ultimately decided by Maharishi himself - as I had but this enquiry where I belonged to before him - I was already deeply committed to Mother Meera - Are you still with her? Yes. That's for taking the time to write what you've been writing. Very balanced and insightful. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beacon Light lectures
I have still no scanner - so I have to copy the copy and send it to you - where? Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have only a copy with MMYs speach incl. a picture of Guru Dev with Rashtrapathi. It is also a picture of Rashtrapathi with a group of people incl. MMY, when Rashtrapathi came to pay respect to Guru Dev, 04th December 1952. (Not of good quality). Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone got a copy of the 'complete' publication of these lectures from 1955, including the contributions from speakers other than MMY ? There were photographs included too, but these are of secondary importance. I'd love to be able to look at these and copy them. Incidentally, I am always looking for material on Guru Dev, including publications with a mention of him, photographs and recordings. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' Rare Excommunication a Setback for Hollywood Star The Church of Scientology dealt an unexpected blow to actor Tom Cruise today, excommunicating the Hollywood star for being too weird. Well, I guess this shows that some of the issues we've been discussing lately with organizations being more concerned about their public image than with their members is not restricted to the TMO. The Borowitz Report is the work of humorist, Andy Borowitz. The story is a joke. Where did the idea that individuals can be spiritual and still be individuals get lost along the way? My guess is that the value of the individual got tossed when individuals started trying to recreate someone else's spiritual experiences instead of having their own. Enlightened masters writing stuff down is a double-edged sword. It's inspiring stuff, but it leads people to believe that awakening is some kind of standardized phenomenon as defined by a few particular nervous systems. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' Rare Excommunication a Setback for Hollywood Star The Church of Scientology dealt an unexpected blow to actor Tom Cruise today, excommunicating the Hollywood star for being too weird. Well, I guess this shows that some of the issues we've been discussing lately with organizations being more concerned about their public image than with their members is not restricted to the TMO. The Borowitz Report is the work of humorist, Andy Borowitz. The story is a joke. Duh. I never read past the first two paragraphs of stories like this. Backfired on me this time. :-) Where did the idea that individuals can be spiritual and still be individuals get lost along the way? My guess is that the value of the individual got tossed when individuals started trying to recreate someone else's spiritual experiences instead of having their own. Enlightened masters writing stuff down is a double-edged sword. It's inspiring stuff, but it leads people to believe that awakening is some kind of standardized phenomenon as defined by a few particular nervous systems. Yup. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Borowitz Report is the work of humorist, Andy Borowitz. The story is a joke. Duh. I never read past the first two paragraphs of stories like this. Backfired on me this time. :-) No biggie. Stories from The Onion are mistaken as being serious all the time. You can see more Borowitz Report stories here: http://www.borowitzreport.com/archives.asp I particularly like: POLL: AMERICANS ALREADY MISS JACKSON TRIAL End of Case Leaves Gaping Hole in People's Lives, Survey Says Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
I cannot understand how this kind of theoretical, intellectual speculation can help a person to evolve. If we knew how higher stages of consciousness than ours are, that knowing would be inevitably wrong, only a different way to organize our present stage of consciousness outwardly. With your present eyes, you just cannot see how the world looks like, when seen with much more accurate eyes that can perceive dimensions, your eyes cannot. We cannot adopt a higher stage of consciousness than ours that way, we can only imitate it. And that imitation can even become a hindrance for further growth. We evolve best by uncovering the limitations and illusions of the perceptions our present stage creates. If the process of imitating takes up most of your attention, very little attention is left to uncovering the contradictions of our present stage. Often the hypocrisy that goes with imitation forms a safe hiding place for rigid and false thought forms. On the other hand we can for moments get peak experiences, experience glimpses of higher stages and that can be of help in uncovering the illusions that are hidden in our present stage. At least I have personally not been interested in higher stages. If you have a rigid preconceived idea, you are less open for the unexpected, which a new stage will be. Every thought and every experience regardless of how pure, subtle and transcendental it feels, when perceived in and through a physical body and nervous system, is always in the relative. We can only talk about the absolute, we cannot experience it. Irmeli --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question though is, if in enlightenment the Knower is the infinite Self, no longer the point ego, which effectively gets overridden (apart from its organizing functions), then you are left with a Self and a perceiving body. There might well be an experience of Self in all beings/ all beings in Self but how true can that be if it remains exclusively linked to the original point body and its perceptions? As such it's just like a glorified relative ego blessed with blissful oceanic feelings. It would only be a true cosmic Self if, moving from infinity to point, it no longer is exclusively linked to the original point body, since Self is omnipresent, at every point. That would make it less relative than before, since it would now be linked with an infinity of points of perception. You mention omniscience.. well if there is only ONE Knower anyway... presumably in Unity this happens? Otherwise again it would be a point hallucinating infinity, with no reality to it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you could mellow out the Winters and Summers, you could add one more old 'ru to the population! Now that FF has a fantastic beach at Waterworks Park, my wife and I are enjoying the summer heat here a great deal more than in previous years. And coming from Maine (which so far this year has been cold and wet), we are quite pleased that Spring is in full force here in March (as opposed to June in Maine if we were lucky :-) ) We have never seen a town that provided such a perfect balance of nourishment for spirit, soul, and body as FF now does. We've both lost weight just from walking our dog around the trails early in the AM and in late afternoon... and everyone is FRIENDLY. Wow! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, seems like some people in South florida have a problem with this type of activity. So Kali yuga of them, isn't it? --There are no hills in S Florida. That explains how Dr. Pete could pull off the elephant thang so easily... :-) Oh, did he pull it off? You may be in real trouble now, Dr. Pete. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was: A Sense of Sangha)
TurquoiseB wrote: One could say that the common denominator in both cases is the rigidity of their underlying belief system and the level of personal identification they have with that rigid belief system. Anything that appears to contradict the belief system is perceived as a personal attack against them, because they have identified with their belief system so strongly. I think you've just described the nature of identification in bondage. The ego creates all these beliefs vital to buttressing its little world. Threaten the beliefs, and you threaten the ego's very existence. - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, MY understanding is that MMY used Shankara's description of meditation as dying the cloth, combined with the traditional Patanjali discussion of mind fluctuations, all wrapped up in western terminology ala Hans Selye... But hey, maybe he read Dianetics first. As I think I've mentioned before here, I doubt he's ever really read anything of the literature of Scientology or any other spiritual tradition. But Maharishi had a strong core follower in the early days of the movement who had been L. Ron Hubbard's personal secretary for many, many years, and she probably told him a few things about Hubbard. Right. I am of course not referring to the TM itself, but to the explanation that is given especially at the second day checking, that is stress release, and thought being an expression of it. The idea that stresses, for example emotional are restored in the body and upon release are giving rise to thought activity. The idea that the thought will be not necessarily exact, but could respond by association. That there is a mixture, i.e. a cluster of stress released. That there is a cycle. Its not the same, but you feel that he modelled it after the auditing model of Dianetics. In a similar way, MMY has expressed his admiration for Yogananda, and overtook things from him, most notably a vebatim quote from one of Y's books in the secret steps. I remember at Squaw Valley 1968 she mentioned her personal feelings that Hubbard was probably the most brilliant man she had ever met, but was at the same time (in her exact word) certifiable. She felt that he had a streak of paranoia that influenced everything he ever did or wrote. Hubbard was a colorful personaility to say the least. Just last night I did some internet research on all I could get hold on about scientology. I have clearly experienced how through enlightenment experiences concepts vanish, and realized that our conditioning is holding us back. The idea to work on this conditioning is therefore interesting to me. I found that Hubbard was obviously a big fan of Aleister Crowley, and made some very secret mackic rituals with one of his disciples called Jack Parson, he even overtook his girlfriend. http://www.religio.de/atack/occ1.html There is also some speculation that the word Dianetics is reminescent of the Goddess Diana. Hubbard had appearances of a goddess he called the Empress. Scientology became an amalgan between psychotherapy, mackic and basically gnostic thought. In its later stages, from OT3 on, it becomes a sort of psychotherapeutic exorcism. There is a strange story called OT3,a sort of science fiction fairy tale you can read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu which accounts for the existence of quasy demonic uncounscious souls,which occupy our body limbs by the thousands according to Hubbard,and are conscequently exorcised,i.e. liberated through auditing from OT3 to OT7. See http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html There is also a controversy about that according to sci religious ideas have been implanted by the 'bad guy' xenu intohuman brains in order to control us called R6. In the highest level OT8 one alledgedly has to abondan these ideas see http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/ot8b.html This is clearly gnostic thought,were the creator of the heavens is being looked down at as basically the imprisoner of thought. So scientology does retain its originally gnostic/mackic attribute. In having a great emphazis on reincarnation, karma, release of karma, identifying ourselves as Gods, it is much closer to Hindu and Buddhist philosophy than to Xthianity, which I think is a good thing. It also seems that the everage practitioner is not necessarily acquqainted with these higher philosophical aspects, and simply uses the tools to become more 'aware' about his own conditioning, and releases it in a non-judgemental way. I came across webpages of people who parted with the organization for ovious reasons, but still did auditing, also of the higher levels, and there are independed organizations offering it, like http://freezoneamerica.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
I have followed with some interest the career of rocket scientist John Jack Parsons and Hubbard. In fact Parsons just had a new biography published. Hubbard and Parsons worked together on a ritual called the Babalon working which was a rite to incarnate Babalon, essentially a form of Kali, in human form. The idea was that this would be Parson's spiritual mate who could help him manifest anything, including complete enlightenment. Well something backfired. As the ritual working came to climax, Parson ended up killing himself in an explosion at Cal Tech and Hubbard got the manifested form of Babalon as his wife. Shortly thereafter Hubbard begins his rise to power. This is all very Gnostic. In fact if one looks closely at Hubbards system, it clearly has parallels to the Neoplatonic idea of the *idios daemon*--the personal Daemon (not to be confused with *demon*). The same practice is what became the ideal of the Holy Guardian Angel. Its primary practice is that of Knowledge and Conversation with the Holy Guardian Angel. Correct completion of this path often manifests as an elaborate system of attaining various ends, mundane and spiritual, not unlike what Scientology has become in our modern scientific era. The parallels between Scientology and Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel are undeniable in my opinion, there are just too many examples in that system for it to be otherwise. Given both Parson's and Hubbard's interests, one only has to look as far as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn for a source of these ideas. Unfortunately it seems the purity of that system of attainment seems to have been obscured in Scientology as is often the case in any institution or hierarchical system. In any event, its interesting to see how a western tradition of enlightenment can manifest in a scientific era. On Jun 22, 2005, at 9:45 AM, t3rinity wrote: Hubbard was a colorful personaility to say the least. Just last night I did some internet research on all I could get hold on about scientology. I have clearly experienced how through enlightenment experiences concepts vanish, and realized that our conditioning is holding us back. The idea to work on this conditioning is therefore interesting to me. I found that Hubbard was obviously a big fan of Aleister Crowley, and made some very secret mackic rituals with one of his disciples called Jack Parson, he even overtook his girlfriend. http://www.religio.de/atack/occ1.html There is also some speculation that the word Dianetics is reminescent of the Goddess Diana. Hubbard had appearances of a goddess he called the Empress. Scientology became an amalgan between psychotherapy, mackic and basically gnostic thought. In its later stages, from OT3 on, it becomes a sort of psychotherapeutic exorcism. There is a strange story called OT3,a sort of science fiction fairy tale you can read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu which accounts for the existence of quasy demonic uncounscious souls,which occupy our body limbs by the thousands according to Hubbard,and are conscequently exorcised,i.e. liberated through auditing from OT3 to OT7. See http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html There is also a controversy about that according to sci religious ideas have been implanted by the 'bad guy' xenu intohuman brains in order to control us called R6. In the highest level OT8 one alledgedly has to abondan these ideas see http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/ot8b.html This is clearly gnostic thought,were the creator of the heavens is being looked down at as basically the imprisoner of thought. So scientology does retain its originally gnostic/mackic attribute. In having a great emphazis on reincarnation, karma, release of karma, identifying ourselves as Gods, it is much closer to Hindu and Buddhist philosophy than to Xthianity, which I think is a good thing. It also seems that the everage practitioner is not necessarily acquqainted with these higher philosophical aspects, and simply uses the tools to become more 'aware' about his own conditioning, and releases it in a non-judgemental way. I came across webpages of people who parted with the organization for ovious reasons, but still did auditing, also of the higher levels, and there are independed organizations offering it, like http://freezoneamerica.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand how this kind of theoretical, intellectual speculation can help a person to evolve. why speculation ? No. Jnana has it's own value. yes? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Google Job
Title: Google Job Would you mind sending me the link? Thanks - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Google Job Want to get paid to mess around on the internet all day?:It has turned out that eval.google.com is some kind of quality center. Google pays people from all over the world US$10 to US$20 per hour to check Google search results every day.These people, called International Agents at Google, seem to have been recruited through universities. There is also a job posting for Google quality raters on Monster.com:Google Inc. is recruiting part-time, temporary, home-based workers to help with work on a search quality evaluation on a project basis. [...] Candidates will evaluate search results and rate their relevance. Thus, all candidates must be web-savvy and analytical, have excellent web research skills and a broad range of interests. Specific areas of expertise are highly desirable. An official Google spokesman has confirmed that the quality center exists and that real people rate the quality of search results.-- Rick ArcherSearchSummit1108 South B StreetFairfield, IA 52556Phone: 641-472-9336Fax: 815-572-5842http://searchsummit.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The Happy Elephant (was Re: balancing techniques)
I just came back from pushing an elephant uphill with my dick. It was surprisingly easy. Now I just have to deal with all the legal ramifications. *Legal* ramifications?? What are the ramifications for your *dick*? There are laws against certain activities with animals... So I have discovered much to my chagrin. On the other hand, the elephant in question seems pretty pleased with the whole experience: http://www.boardsmag.com/screeningroom/commercials/1673/ Dr. Pete's obviously got some pushin' tool... :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand how this kind of theoretical, intellectual speculation can help a person to evolve. why speculation ? No. Jnana has it's own value. yes? I don't know what 'jnana'means. Of course intellectual theory building and has its proper place and use. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers
Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? - Original Message - From: easyone200 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand how this kind of theoretical, intellectual speculation can help a person to evolve. why speculation ? No. Jnana has it's own value. yes? I love the descriptions Irmeli has given of her own awareness, and they have tickled me to pay more attention to sound/vibration myself, bringing that angle more into conscious enjoyment in this bodymind, to excellent effect. (Whereas this bodymind's habitual sense-channels have tended to emphasize feeling/touch and sight.) Perhaps sharing different angles and (ap)perceptions can often help us to recognize more consciously the enlightenment that has been here all along -- as long (as Irmeli cautions) as we do not deny our own innate focus and gifts in favor of some conceptual idea we might have of another's gifts or enlightenment-criteria. Claudio's questions seem (to me at least) to show that he is seeing through the old absolute/relative dichotomy, and finding that Brahman or Wholeness resides AS fully in the manifest, relative point as in the unmanifest, absolute Ocean. No difference. A natural progression from this would seem to be the realization that one's Wholeness is potentially as free to be ANY point-self as to be one's habitual point-self: what I would (habitually) call Krishna Consciousness. Again, just a matter of putting a bit of attention on what has been here all along. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Google Job
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Google Job on 6/22/05 9:37 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you mind sending me the link? Thanks You could search at monster.com, but try http://www.searchbistro.com/index.php?/archives/19-Google-Secret-Lab,-Prelude.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Mercury Beeja Mantra
Title: Mercury Beeja Mantra Wednesday is Mercurys day. Again it is seen closer in French, Mercredi. He is known as Budha. Mercury Beeja Mantra to be repeated17,000 times. This is a Naraayana or Vishnu mantra Om Hreem Kreem Tam Grahaatinataaya Budhaaya Swaahaa Especially useful in Mercury planetary cycles and bad transits of mercury and every year on your birthday if your rising sign is Gemini (mithuna) or Virga (kanya) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The Happy Elephant (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the elephant in question seems pretty pleased with the whole experience: http://www.boardsmag.com/screeningroom/commercials/1673/ Singing in the Rain is one of my favorites. One of very few DVDs I own. How can you be down when you see Gene Kelly sloshing through those puddles with joy in his heart (or the elephant for that matter)? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
On Jun 22, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Vaj wrote: I have followed with some interest the career of rocket scientist John Jack Parsons and Hubbard. In fact Parsons just had a new biography published. Here a online review of the biography of Jack Parsons called Strange Angel: The Otherwordly Life Of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons by George Pendle. http://bookwaves.homestead.com/NewandReviewed.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers
She's a neo-conservative dominatrix --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? - Original Message - From: easyone200 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the descriptions Irmeli has given of her own awareness, and they have tickled me to pay more attention to sound/vibration myself, bringing that angle more into conscious enjoyment in this bodymind, to excellent effect. (Whereas this bodymind's habitual sense-channels have tended to emphasize feeling/touch and sight.) Perhaps sharing different angles and (ap)perceptions can often help us to recognize more consciously the enlightenment that has been here all along -- as long (as Irmeli cautions) as we do not deny our own innate focus and gifts in favor of some conceptual idea we might have of another's gifts or enlightenment-criteria. The funny thing is that while I'm inwardly attentive to vibrations and sound, outwardly the case is the opposite. I have some difficulties to attentively follow speech. While studying I often felt I couldn't follow the lecturer and understood very little of the lecture. When I got home and had a look at my notes, I could often easily grasp everything. I'm an engineer and have been quite good in solving complicated problems, but only when they are drawn and written on the paper. If somebody tries to explain the problem to me by speaking, I have difficulties in understanding and solving it. So outwardly I'm much more visual. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all very Gnostic. In fact if one looks closely at Hubbards system, it clearly has parallels to the Neoplatonic idea of the *idios daemon*--the personal Daemon That would be more like a Guardian Spirit? Not the BT's, right? ... In any event, its interesting to see how a western tradition of enlightenment can manifest in a scientific era. Yes it is. Thank you Vaj. I notice for you as a former Freemasonist this is naturally more within your field of expertise. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
On Jun 22, 2005, at 11:32 AM, t3rinity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all very Gnostic. In fact if one looks closely at Hubbards system, it clearly has parallels to the Neoplatonic idea of the *idios daemon*--the personal Daemon That would be more like a Guardian Spirit? Not the BT's, right? Similar idea, who's to say the experience is the same unless both were experienced. In eastern terms it would be like the Jnana-dakini or Jnana-devi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? She's a neo-conservative dominatrix Isn't that redundant? Even for the men? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
comments below please --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question though is, if in enlightenment the Knower is the infinite Self, no longer the point ego, which effectively gets overridden (apart from its organizing functions), then you are left with a Self and a perceiving body. There might well be an experience of Self in all beings/ all beings in Self but how true can that be if it remains exclusively linked to the original point body and its perceptions? It isn't exclusively linked to anything. The Self is distinctly free from any sense of personal identification. It is perceived by the original 'point' body, but is not actually connected to it. It, the Self, exists by its Self. This has been my experience when I still my mind. All thoughts go away, and yet I can still perceive something else, pure consciousness, the Self. It is odd because it feels like me, but try as I might I can't locate the attachment point, through thought or the senses. Sometimes I will even imagine being attached to It just to satisfy some remnant of ego or habit, though when I focus on it, there is truly no attachment. It is like pressing on foam to leave an impression, and no matter how hard I press, there is no impression left. snip It would only be a true cosmic Self if, moving from infinity to point, it no longer is exclusively linked to the original point body, since Self is omnipresent, at every point. That would make it less relative than before, since it would now be linked with an infinity of points of perception. Exactly. Though I am unsure about the next step- how the perception of the Self begins to extend to everything else 'out there'. Conceptually, yes, but experientially, not yet constant. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
You raise some good questions. If you wish to then read in, otherwise just consider this another waste of my time. - Original Message - From: claudiouk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative My question though is, if in enlightenment the Knower is the "infinite" Self, no longer the "point" ego, which effectively gets overridden (apart from its organizing functions), then you are left with a Self and a perceiving body. There might well be an experience of "Self in all beings/ all beings in Self" but how true can that be if it remains exclusively linked to the original "point" body and its perceptions? -This is the problem, identifying with the body as if it's a point. The body is infinite. The self is absolute, not infinite. A point of identification is the absolute identifying with some snapshot of the infinite. There are no points. There are merely snapshots. As soon as the camera eye of the absolute has finished with its picture the scene has changed. How mant times does your pet, or baby do something cute, and you yell for the wife, and then she comes running, and the pet, or baby won't do it again? Snapshot, snapshot, snapshot, snapshot. And then we get hung up on the better pitcures of yesterday when our hair blew just right, and Kali didn't appear so lustful in our own eyes. All beings are linked, even in the snapshot. Didn't you see the dolphin in the ocean behind the subject, and the water sprites in the cloud dipping their heads into the underside of the gray foam of their world. What about the baby which raised it's hand too the twinkling sunlight refracted of your lens. As such it's just like a glorified relative ego blessed with blissful oceanic feelings. -Except that unlike the horny housewife who is identifying with herwet snatch (whoas been having a midlife crises for the last ten years), and the postman-as-divinely-handy-tool, (Thank you Jesus), except that, the enlightened aren't really identifying with their vagina, wet or dry, no, they are a circumference without any point for fastening upon. And so also, when the postman turnes them down, or they are to shy to invite him in, they release the horns, and don't treat their husbands like shit when they get home. Or they refasten the horns and work their man over, to his surprise. You see the enlightened is not afraid to try something new, since they aren't just a snapshot. Snapshot. The enlightened wife has a lucky husband who comes home to the field of all possibilities. It would only be a true cosmic Self if, moving from infinity to "point", it no longer is exclusively linked to the original "point" body, The problem is using TM-speak which is relative, and based not upon the Sanskrit basis for the philosophy but is based in the English or other language and is the interpretation of an interpretation. In Tibetan they have five words for thought, five for mind, and so on The body is an amazing thing. Really amazing. Think how flexible and beautiful it is. And what is it? It's billions of individual cells. When you are speaking of a point body, what's your point? Which point? And even in that point are more points. Iin the cell is an atom of particles, and smaller points beyond. What one finds is the self same field of the absolute, and no points, no motion, nothing being created, or dying. Nothing but an absolute. That's is. Snap. Snap. since Self is omnipresent, at every point. That would make it less "relative" than before, since it would now be linked with an infinity of "points" of perception. You mention omniscience.. well if there is only ONE Knower anyway... presumably in Unity this happens? Otherwise again it would be a "point" hallucinating "infinity", with no "reality" to it. Snapshot. A better question is why am I happy sometimes but not at others? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Google Job
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Google Job Whatever. It's either a job or it isn't, in which case it's a wild goose chase. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Google Job on 6/22/05 9:37 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you mind sending me the link? ThanksYou could search at monster.com, but try http://www.searchbistro.com/index.php?/archives/19-Google-Secret-Lab,-Prelude.html To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers
So she spits? - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers She's a neo-conservative dominatrix--- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? - Original Message - From: easyone200 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
On Jun 22, 2005, at 11:35 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: It is perceived by the original 'point' body, but is not actually connected to it. It, the Self, exists by its Self. This has been my experience when I still my mind. All thoughts go away, and yet I can still perceive something else, pure consciousness, the Self. It is odd because it feels like me, but try as I might I can't locate the attachment point, through thought or the senses. How do you *know* that this is not one moment of consciousness recalling the experience of the immediately preceding moment of consciousness, which, in turn, may recall its immediately preceding moment—each moment having no other appearances or objects arising to it. Thus, due to the homogeneity of this mental continuum, with each moment of consciousness recalling the previous moment of consciousness, the experiential effect is that of consciousness apprehending itself? In other words consciousness perceiving pure consciousness is just a trained illusion or expectation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you *know* that this is not one moment of consciousness recalling the experience of the immediately preceding moment of consciousness, which, in turn, may recall its immediately preceding momenteach moment having no other appearances or objects arising to it. Thus, due to the homogeneity of this mental continuum, with each moment of consciousness recalling the previous moment of consciousness, the experiential effect is that of consciousness apprehending itself? In other words consciousness perceiving pure consciousness is just a trained illusion or expectation. you could be right, I didn't know how else to express it. Although if it is a 'homogeneity of...mental continuum' and 'each moment having no other appearances or objects arising to it', that sounds like defacto 'pure consciousness' to me? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? http://www.thbookservice.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c6230 http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0111.coulterwisdom.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have to admit to having been somewhat lazy with the development of my French. I work for a French company, but one in the computer industry (which runs on English) and in which everyone speaks English, and in which all of the documentation and training materials and programs I write are done in English. So there has been (fortunately for me in terms of finding work, unfortunately for me in terms of learning French) not the immersion factor at work that would have improved my French drastically. I can read most things in French, and understand most of what is said. My weakness is in speaking French well. I can get by, but French grammar is very precise, and my French is, as yet, far from precise. I have the same problems everyone has -- with the gender of nouns, the exact verb form to use, etc. But I'm working on it. This summer I get to live in a small town in the south, where almost no one speaks English, so I will finally be forced into the immersion scenario I need to progress. The more general answer to your question is that you can get by adequately in Paris knowing very little French, because English has emerged as the international language of tourism, just as it is the international language of business and computing. But in the smaller towns and provinces, you'd be much happier knowing more French. IMO, the best way to learn whether one really has a feel for France or not is to visit, and travel around. There is an old saying here that is completely accurate -- There is Paris, and then there is France. The two are not synonymous. Paris, although arguably one of the world's most beautiful and livable cities, is not France. It's Paris, its own universe. The outlying areas of France are very, very, very different. Most different, for a meditator, in terms of the level of silence. When you get into the outlying areas, especially down south, in some of the less populous areas, meditation becomes just something you surrender to, not something you do. The level of silence is that profound. In Paris, there is an astounding level of silence for a city this large and dynamic, but it's not the same. Thanks for the insight and travelogue of sorts- somewhere on my dream list is to visit Paris. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
Well, she's obviously a comedienne.It takes guts to say what others are stupidly thinking. She's not much different from Maharishi, except it's hard to figure out what his point is. At any rate, it's like the other day. While we were screwing my wife said, "Why are you smiling." I said, "Cause you're a sucker." We both had a good fucking laugh about that. - Original Message - From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she?http://www.thbookservice.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c6230http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0111.coulterwisdom.htmlTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? http://www.thbookservice.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c6230 Does it pee? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ You know that you have created God in your own image when He hates the same people you hate -- Gordon Charrick I read all of these quotes. It is clear why the usa goes to war so easily, builds up far more weapons than it can use- such fear and insecurity in all of them! The one thing that struck me as supremely ironic as I read this, is I doubt very much if any of these people could stand to live in the worlds they supposedly want to create. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? http://www.thbookservice.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c6230 Does it pee? probably not, since it is just an a**hole. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ You know that you have created God in your own image when He hates the same people you hate -- Gordon Charrick I read all of these quotes. It is clear why the usa goes to war so easily, builds up far more weapons than it can use- such fear and insecurity in all of them! The one thing that struck me as supremely ironic as I read this, is I doubt very much if any of these people could stand to live in the worlds they supposedly want to create. I almost hope that the Rapture they all long for will happen, because they'll all be lifted out of their clothes and air-freighted directly to Heaven, where they'll all be walking around nekkid. Can you just IMAGINE how uptight they're going to be nekkid? :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers
She's certifiable, by almost any standard you want to use. Sal On Jun 22, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Llundrub wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
on 6/21/05 5:25 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, sure enough, it works! Not for me. It's asking for a password. http://70.33.152.115:8100/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc Sounds like a great gig, being there and enjoying happenings like the one you describe. Do you speak French? If not, how is it living there w/o it? In the last several years I have found myself attracted to France but have never been, and don't speak the language. Well, I have to admit to having been somewhat lazy with the development of my French. I work for a French company, but one in the computer industry (which runs on English) and in which everyone speaks English, and in which all of the documentation and training materials and programs I write are done in English. So there has been (fortunately for me in terms of finding work, unfortunately for me in terms of learning French) not the immersion factor at work that would have improved my French drastically. snip Hope this helps, Unc Sounds like you are lucky in a way... able to make a living and enjoy Paris w/o being too terribly troubled by the lack of French skill... though it seems you have quite a lot of it down. I have subscribed to an e-letter for a couple of years from http://www.parlerparis.com and learned a bit from them (and from http://www.internationalliving.com/). The letter that came today described the author's grand time enjoying La fête de la musique. I have faint dreams of retiring in the south of France where, I understand, real estate is still somewhat reasonable... at least more reasonable than one would think. Thanks for the feedback. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
That's odd--it's not set up on my end to request a PW. On Jun 22, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/21/05 5:25 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, sure enough, it works! Not for me. It's asking for a password. http://70.33.152.115:8100/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you are lucky in a way... able to make a living and enjoy Paris w/o being too terribly troubled by the lack of French skill... though it seems you have quite a lot of it down. I have subscribed to an e-letter for a couple of years from http://www.parlerparis.com and learned a bit from them (and from http://www.internationalliving.com/). The letter that came today described the author's grand time enjoying La fête de la musique. Yeah, I know Adrian. She's a kick. I have faint dreams of retiring in the south of France where, I understand, real estate is still somewhat reasonable... at least more reasonable than one would think. MUCH more reasonable than one would think... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: OnWard Christian Soldiers
Hari Om, You will find this Web-Link most interesting and absorbing. http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/talmud.htm Jason -- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la mus ique
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc Sounds like a great gig, being there and enjoying happenings like the one you describe. Do you speak French? If not, how is it living there w/o it? In the last several years I have found myself attracted to France but have never been, and don't speak the language. Well, I have to admit to having been somewhat lazy with the development of my French. I work for a French company, but one in the computer industry (which runs on English) and in which everyone speaks English, and in which all of the documentation and training materials and programs I write are done in English. So there has been (fortunately for me in terms of finding work, unfortunately for me in terms of learning French) not the immersion factor at work that would have improved my French drastically. I can read most things in French, and understand most of what is said. My weakness is in speaking French well. I can get by, but French grammar is very precise, and my French is, as yet, far from precise. I have the same problems everyone has -- with the gender of nouns, the exact verb form to use, etc. But I'm working on it. This summer I get to live in a small town in the south, where almost no one speaks English, so I will finally be forced into the immersion scenario I need to progress. The more general answer to your question is that you can get by adequately in Paris knowing very little French, because English has emerged as the international language of tourism, just as it is the international language of business and computing. But in the smaller towns and provinces, you'd be much happier knowing more French. IMO, the best way to learn whether one really has a feel for France or not is to visit, and travel around. There is an old saying here that is completely accurate -- There is Paris, and then there is France. The two are not synonymous. Paris, although arguably one of the world's most beautiful and livable cities, is not France. It's Paris, its own universe. The outlying areas of France are very, very, very different. Most different, for a meditator, in terms of the level of silence. When you get into the outlying areas, especially down south, in some of the less populous areas, meditation becomes just something you surrender to, not something you do. The level of silence is that profound. In Paris, there is an astounding level of silence for a city this large and dynamic, but it's not the same. Hope this helps, Unc I stumbled through almost 4 years of French: two years high school and two years college. French teachers back then didn't make it very easy to learn as they were mainly France afficianados. Frenchaphiles? These days there are many good courses either on the Internet or some of the books. I have several Hindi book and tape courses but I found the easiest to get into was the BK book. So also wanting learn Spanish (which is something I can practice a lot more here in the US) I also ordered the BK course on that which I found disappointing and found a government web site that looked more promising. Also the French I learned was Parisian French and it was difficult to understand the Vittel villagers and if I tried to speak French in Bairritz they would just tell you to speak English because they had many tourists from England and so many people their knew English. Au revoir, Bhairitu To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New files on Projet René Guénon
01. Joseph de Maistre, On Revolutions, (excerpt) engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/joseph-de-maistre-on-revolutions.html 02. Anca Manolescu, Expresii ale unit#259;#355;ii, (note de lectura) rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/anca-manolescu-expresii-ale-unitii.html 03. Mircea A. Tamas, Guénon et Agarttha, (note de lectura) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/mircea-tamas-gunon-et-agarttha-note-de.html 04. Dan Brown, Codul lui Da Vinci, (note de lectura) rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/dan-brown-codul-lui-da-vinci-note-de.html 05. Jacques Rogissart, René Guénon, sociologue, (note de lectura) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/jacques-rogissart-ren-gunon-sociologue.html 06. Julius Evola, The plurality and duality of civilizations, (excerpt) engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/julius-evola-plurality-and-duality-of.html 07. Al-Arab#299; Ad-Darq#257;w#299;, Lettres dun maître soufi, (note de lectura) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/al-arab-ad-darqw-lettres-dun-matre.html 08. Radu Iliescu, Islamul si politica, (text integral) rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/radu-iliescu-islamul-si-politica-text.html 09. Frithjof Schuon, Les Stations de la Sagesse, (note de lectura) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/frithjof-schuon-les-stations-de-la.html 10. René Guénon, The Fissures in the Great Wall, (excerpt) engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/ren-gunon-fissures-in-great-wall.html 11. Horia-Radu Patapievici, Subversiunea, (note de lectura) rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/horia-radu-patapievici-subversiunea.html 12. Gilbert Durand, Introduction à la mythodologie. Mythes et sociétés, (note de lectura) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/gilbert-durand-introduction-la.html 13. Bibliographie Titus Burckhardt fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/06/bibliographie-titus-burckhardt.html . . . All the files until now: Février 2005 01. Bibliographie René Guénon fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/bibliografie-ren-gunon.html 02. René Guénon, La crise du monde moderne, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-la-crise-du-monde-moderne.html 03. René Guénon, Orient et Occident, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-orient-et-occident-note-de.html 04. René Guénon, Le Règne de la Quantité et les Signes des Temps, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-le-rgne-de-la-quantit-et-les.html 05. René Guénon, La Grande Triade, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-la-grande-triade-note-de.html 06. René Guénon, Aperçus sur lésotérisme islamique et le taoïsme, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-aperus-sur-lsotrisme.html 07. René Guénon, Aperçus sur lInitiation, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-aperus-sur-linitiation-note.html 08. Michel Vâlsan, Guénons work in Orient engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/michel-vlsan-gunons-work-in-orient.html 09. Radu Iliescu, René Guénon despre identitatea Occidentului rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/radu-iliescu-ren-gunon-despre.html 10. Radu Iliescu, René Guénon despre Occident #351;i alteritatea sa rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/radu-iliescu-ren-gunon-despre-occident.html 11. Martin Lings, René Guénon engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/martin-lings-ren-gunon.html 12. Marie-Hélène Dassa, Lire Guénon entre les lignes fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/marie-hlne-dassa-lire-gunon-entre-les.html 13. René Guénon, Formes traditionnelles et cycles cosmiques, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/ren-gunon-formes-traditionnelles-et.html 14. H.-R. Patapievici despre René Guénon (cu câteva comentarii de Radu Iliescu) rom. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/02/h-r-patapievici-despre-ren-gunon-cu.html Mars 2005 01. René Guénon, Initiation et réalisation spirituelle, (note de lectur#259;) fr. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/03/ren-gunon-initiation-et-ralisation.html 02. Anonymous, René Guénon short biography engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/03/anonymous-ren-gunon-short-biography.html 03. René Guénon, Some conclusions of East and West engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/03/ren-gunon-some-conclusions-of-east-and.html 04. Martin Lings, Translators Preface of East and West, by René Guénon engl. http://elkorg-projects.blogspot.com/2005/03/martin-lings-translators-preface-of.html 05.
[FairfieldLife] 'World War II/No Protest Then...'
It seems that the more unjustified a war appears to be; The more protest's it seems to produce; logically... R. Gimbel Seattle, WA. Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: La fête de la musique
France is entirely too french for me. They have a different word for everything! --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 22, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Don wrote: I have faint dreams of retiring in the south of France where, I understand, real estate is still somewhat reasonable... at least more reasonable than one would think. Know a number of people who have done this. It is quite reasonable by American standards. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ You know that you have created God in your own image when He hates the same people you hate -- Gordon Charrick I read all of these quotes. It is clear why the usa goes to war so easily, builds up far more weapons than it can use- such fear and insecurity in all of them! The one thing that struck me as supremely ironic as I read this, is I doubt very much if any of these people could stand to live in the worlds they supposedly want to create. I almost hope that the Rapture they all long for will happen, because they'll all be lifted out of their clothes and air-freighted directly to Heaven, where they'll all be walking around nekkid. Can you just IMAGINE how uptight they're going to be nekkid? :-) Unc Genitals are not allowed in heaven, don't you know that? Raja Ram doesn't even talk about the ugly parts in his book. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? She's a neo-conservative dominatrix Isn't that redundant? Even for the men? :-) Hadn't thought about it, but you're right! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] UCLA student newspaper interview MMY
In this interview, UCLA student reporter Rachel Kelley asks Maharishi about the role of students in changing the world, how the Transcendental Meditation technique can improve effectiveness, and the best question of allWhat is enlightenment? Reporter: My name is Rachel Kelley and I am a reporter with the UCLA Daily Bruin newspaper, and I am doing a story on the Transcendental Meditation program. And I was wondering if I could ask you some questions. Maharishi: Yes, yes. Reporter: Okay, thanks. Maharishi: Transcendental Meditation is a very old story. So, yes, ask some new questions. Reporter: I have heard that you talked about enlightenment as being easy, and I was wondering what exactly you mean by enlightenment? Maharishi: Enlightenment means lack of darkness, absence of darkness. And absence of darkness means no mistake, no weakness, no shortcoming success everywhere, fulfillment of desire everywhere. That is enlightenment. One is living in full accord with Natural Law. Spontaneously Nature is supporting us: then we are not in the dark about anything. Reporter: And can anyone learn the TM technique? What does it require? Maharishi: It requires just a desire to learn, and as anything is learned from a teacher, Transcendental Meditation is also learned from the teacher. For these 40 years, millions of people are learning TM, and they're gaining enlightenment. That means they are becoming more and more in accord with Natural Law. That means greater success all the time, no mistakes in life, no harm to anyonethat is enlightenment through Transcendental Meditation. Reporter: What do you feel is the value of students learning the TM technique? Maharishi: The student life is to gain as much knowledge as possible, and if possible, total knowledge. So when they learn Transcendental Meditation, they also learn the principles of Transcendental Meditationtotal knowledge. Transcendental Consciousness is the Unified Field of all the Laws of NatureUnified Field, you know? This quantum field theory has established, that there is one Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature at the basis of all creativity of Natural Law. So when one transcends, one gets into that level of intelligence, which is all- knowingness. This is enlightenment. And one spontaneously begins to think better in every waybetter means in every wayright for everyone, useful for everyone, and quickly achieving the desire. That is enlightenment. And the life of the student is to develop all knowledge that is possible, to gain all creativity that is possible. There is an infinite degree of creativity in the consciousness of everyone, and Transcendental Meditation unfolds that, very easily, very simply, so total knowledge can be gained by every student. So the purpose of a student career, the purpose of gaining education, can be fulfilled through the practice of Transcendental Meditation. Reporter: What do you think students can do for the world? Maharishi: They can re-create the world. The world must be redone, it must be re-established. And basically there is only one thing to restructure the world, and that is enlightenment for everyone. Reporter: People in the United States don't normally associate ease with effectiveness, so how does the TM technique encompass both? Maharishi: Transcendental Meditation makes the active mind fully silent, spontaneously, and that silence remains when one comes out of meditation, then the mind remains silent and remains activesilent and active. Just like a businessman goes to the bank and he comes out, his pocket full, and he moves around in the market very easily, and he does not have to struggle to gain profit in the market if he has money in the pocket. Like that, the inner creativity from Transcendental Meditation comes out and then, with increased creativity, people don't have to work that hard. The principle of Transcendental Meditation is: no hardness in life. This great principle isdo less and accomplish more. In the principle of shooting an arrow with great force, we just pull the arrow back and releaseit will go very far and hit the target with great force. So success is not gained through hard work: success is gained by having the infinite organizing power of Natural Law in our favor. So Transcendental Meditation brings the favor of Natural Lawbrings the creativity of Natural Law, which governs the whole universeso everything becomes very easy for the Meditators to achieve. Reporter: How would you respond to students who are afraid of putting themselves in such a deep rest state because that feeling is so foreign to them? Maharishi: No, No. Everyone knows sleeping is very natural. No one has to work hard to sleep. So resting is a natural process. One rests, one feels better, one feels relaxed. `Work hard' is a wrong principle. Only, one should draw the mind inward, pull the arrow and release. This is the way to fulfill our
[FairfieldLife] Lord Hankey on Ayurveda
Evid Based Complement Alternat Med. 2005 March; 2(1): 512. doi: 10.1093/ecam/neh073. The online version of this article has been published under an open access model at Pubmed: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi? tool=pubmedpubmedid=15841271 . Users are entitled to use, reproduce, disseminate, or display the open access version of this article for non-commercial purposes provided that: the original authorship is properly and fully attributed; the Journal and Oxford University Press are attributed as the original place of publication with the correct citation details given; if an article is subsequently reproduced or disseminated not in its entirety but only in part or as a derivative work this must be clearly indicated. For commercial re- use, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before you read this you might be interested to learn of a second contribution , in this case editorial: comment by Alex Hankey; in the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine of April, this year (vol11, no 2) on: The Scientific Value of Ayurveda Alex Hankey Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine. Apr 2005, Vol. 11, No. 2: 221-225 Citation | Full Text PDF: For printing or With links | Related But now this article: Evid Based Complement Alternat Med. 2005 March; 2(1): 512. doi: 10.1093/ecam/neh073. Copyright © The Author (2005). Published by Oxford University Press. All rights reserved. CAM Modalities Can Stimulate Advances in Theoretical Biology Alex Hankey Hethe House, Cowden, Kent TN8 7DZ, UK Table of Contents Abstract Introduction The Biophysics of Regulation and Health Ayurveda's Tridosha: Gross Regulation of Organisms Genomes and Feedback Singularities Ayurveda and Energy Medicine Conclusions References Abstract Most complementary medicine is distinguished by not being supported by underlying theory accepted by Western science. However, for those who accept their validity, complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) modalities offer clues to understanding physiology and medicine more deeply. Ayurveda and vibrational medicine are stimulating new approaches to biological regulation. The new biophysics can be integrated to yield a single consistent theory, which may well underly much of CAMa true `physics of physick'. The resulting theory seems to be a new, fundamental theory of health and etiology. It suggests that many CAM approaches to health care are scientifically in advance of those based on current Western biology. Such theories may well constitute the next steps in our scientific understanding of biology itself. If successfully developed, these ideas could result in a major paradigm shift in both biology and medicine, which will benefit all interested partiesconsumers, health professionals, scientists, institutions and governments. Introduction In the past decades, the public have turned to therapies of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) on a scale that ministries of health were unprepared for, and which is driving the present revolution in patterns of health care (16). One reason is the increased incidence of chronic disease, and the natural concern of many people to leave no stone unturned in their search for an end to the suffering of themselves, or their nearest and dearest, particularly if someone they trust has found relief. It is commonplace that the increase in mean ages of their populations is driving the increase in chronic disease in developed countries (7). As baby boomers come up to retirement, a crisis in public health looms that will stretch the budgets of all economies. Currently, orthodox biomedicine has no power to cure these diseases. Indeed, that is the only reason orthodox medicine lumps such illnesses together in the category it terms `chronic', introducing the terms `chronic disease care' (8) and `chronic disease management' (9) to indicate that the best it can offer is being done for them. On past experience, conventional medicine will only discover cures for chronic diseases slowly. It is therefore imperative for all concerned that other avenues of approach to the problem are explored. Wherever CAM modalities can be shown to offer cheaper or more problem- free alternatives to conventional practice in managing chronic disease, they will potentially provide welcome relief for Ministries of Health and their Exchequers alike. If such CAM therapies also offer fewer side effects than drug therapies, they will be welcomed by consumers. Any CAM modalities that were shown to provide reliable cure for a presently incurable chronic pathology should be doubly welcomed. One of the problems that faces governments in providing funding for CAM therapies, however, is the continued lack of understanding of what they can offer and how they work. On the one hand, the evidence base of complementary medicine is increasing, an important factor this journal has
[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you could mellow out the Winters and Summers, you could add one more old 'ru to the population! Now that FF has a fantastic beach at Waterworks Park, my wife and I are enjoying the summer heat here a great deal more than in previous years. And coming from Maine (which so far this year has been cold and wet), we are quite pleased that Spring is in full force here in March (as opposed to June in Maine if we were lucky :-) ) We have never seen a town that provided such a perfect balance of nourishment for spirit, soul, and body as FF now does. We've both lost weight just from walking our dog around the trails early in the AM and in late afternoon... and everyone is FRIENDLY. Wow! * MUM has asked the Fairfield Police Dept. to enforce the 10PM bedtime rule for meditators, so make sure you are out of Waterworks Park by 10PM: http://tinyurl.com/bduhd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] infinity to PointS (was the relative)
Many thanks for all the responses, not sure how to address them all.. They helped me think more about the question and hopefully some resolution is taking place somewhere in my brain 58385... Irmeli Mattsson I cannot understand how this kind of theoretical, intellectual speculation can help a person to evolve... If you have a rigid preconceived idea, you are less open for the unexpected, which a new stage will be. MMY often emphasized the importance of understanding along with direct experience, for one's evolution. I agree that imitating a state of consciousness from some cultural transmission is pointless, but theoretical discussions can hopefully reduce confusion and be inspiring and motivating. I imagine that direct experience would override and automatically stretch any limiting preconceptions. Every thought and every experience regardless of how .. transcendental it feels, when perceived in and through a physical body and nervous system, is always in the relative. We can only talk about the absolute, we cannot experience it. In MMY's schema, this is the point to infinity bit, only you're saying that any and all experience is relative. But the Knower is Absolute so from the infinity to point perspective why are we stuck with the relative experience associated with THIS point body and not others, given that the Knower inhabits other bodies simultaneously. 58396 ... Rory Goff Brahman or Wholeness resides AS fully in the manifest, relative point as in the unmanifest, absolute Ocean. No difference. A natural progression from this would seem to be the realization that one's Wholeness is potentially as free to be ANY point-self as to be one's habitual point-self: Yes Infinity (= Wholeness = Unmanifest/Absolute = Self) is omnipresent at every Point (= manifest, relative = self). So why is the consciosness/Knower remain linked to the habitual point self if it is free to be ANY point-self ? 58405... jim_flanegin The Self is distinctly free from any sense of personal identification.It is perceived by the original 'point' body, but is not actually connected to it.It is odd because it feels like me, but try as I might I can't locate the attachment point, through thought or the senses. Yes identification dissolves when going from point to infinity. Though I am unsure about the next step- how the perception of the Self begins to extend to everything else 'out there'. Conceptually, yes, but experientially, not yet constant. This infinity to pointS is the tricky bit. I myself can't speak from experience, but am interested in it conceptually (as part of some understanding of the possibilities of higher states of consciousness). Not sure for instance how it relates to Unity. 58408 ... Llundrub This is the problem, identifying with the body as if it's a point. The body is infinite. The self is absolute, not infinite. A point of identification is the absolute identifying with some snapshot of the infinite. There are no points. There are merely snapshots. I like MMY's spacial schema point to infinity = relative to Absolute. You seem to prefer a temporal model based on snapshots. Both space and time are involved in the relative. And yes a point is equivalent to a snapshot of the infinite. All beings are linked, even in the snapshot. That is true even from our unenlightened consciousness. But we experience ourselves as separate points/snapshots - even, it seems, in the Absolute to Relative/Infinity to Point situation. When you are speaking of a point body, what's your point? Which point? And even in that point are more points. Very true in terms of a Unified Field chart but what is relevant here is the sensory ego-point , and its experiential separateness from others, in spite of the Wholeness underlying the snapshot. A better question is why am I happy sometimes but not at others Presumably the camera angle.. but what happens when one takes an infinite number of snapshots all at once (infinity to pointS) or is only one snapshot allowed at each successive moment (infinity to point)? 58259 ...Irmeli Mattsson My present understanding of the seemingly complicated phenomenon of consciousness evolution is strongly influenced by spiral dynamicsAnd how you interpret and describe your enlightenment experience depends largely, in addition to cultural influences, on the stages of organizing I you are in. The lower you are the more extravagant those interpretations tend to be. I think there are still a lot of inexperienced stages and possibilities ahead us in the evolution of the organizing I. In order to evolve to those higher stages I think the awakening of the first I to be a prerequisite. I found the spiral dynamics notion very interesting. Although this unfoldment of Is relates to stages in the point to infinity and infinity to point - and goodness knows there is an eternity of snapshots on the videotape there to keep us
[FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Infinity (= Wholeness = Unmanifest/Absolute = Self) is omnipresent at every Point (= manifest, relative = self). So why is the consciosness/Knower remain linked to the habitual point self if it is free to be ANY point-self ? It is all point-selves of oneself, and one can (to whatever degree) emerge from the Ocean to experience any specific wave one attends to. However, generally it would seem that habit keeps one focussed more or less in the original bodymind if there is no particular need/desire at any given moment to experience/heal other point-selves or aspects of oneself. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: OnWard Christian Soldiers
Thanks for your email re what you hte no9te says is thetalmund. It is NOT so, these are commentaries on the talmud ANOT the talmund which as you know is the 1 st. 5 Booksw of the old testiment. that is the talmund. I checked 5 references 2 are wholy incorrect one is a possible mis translation of Mamondies work while another 2 are not found in the text or reference cite. thus very poor scholarship. I decided after this most cusory research to stop there alert you to its un scholarly mature bias. ... are you still employed there I am now in Buffalo will NOt soon return there.-Original Message-From: Jason Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:53:19 -0700 (PDT)Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: OnWard Christian Soldiers Hari Om, You will find this Web-Link most interesting and absorbing. http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/talmud.htm Jason -- Yahoo! SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She's a neo-conservative dominatrix Perfect. --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? - Original Message - From: easyone200 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' Rare Excommunication a Setback for Hollywood Star The Church of Scientology dealt an unexpected blow to actor Tom Cruise today, excommunicating the Hollywood star for being too weird. Well, I guess this shows that some of the issues we've been discussing lately with organizations being more concerned about their public image than with their members is not restricted to the TMO. Where did the idea that individuals can be spiritual and still be individuals get lost along the way? Unc I'm pretty sure it wasa spoof... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ You know that you have created God in your own image when He hates the same people you hate -- Gordon Charrick God created Man in His own image, and Man, being a gentleman, returned the favor... --Inherit the Wind (IIRC). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Levitating Housewife.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], tanhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Wife, Mother, and Mystic, The Life of Blessed Anna Maria Taigi Tan Publishers, 1952. [lived in Rome, died in 1837.]. from p. 113, an account of levitation: It was a great effort for her to withdraw herself for one instant from the thought of God. She would be cleaning saucepans, and suddenly Our Lord was there. She hastened to avert her gaze, and then, being overcome, remained in ecstasy, saucepan in hand. Sopie [her Daughter] depicts her sweeping cobwebs and being suddenly levitated while the hairs of the broom turned on empty air. Sophie was cry, Mamma, where are you going? Up there there is no dirt. Her miraculous gift of supernatural vision, (p. 8-9): Her intellectual gifts were altogether overshadowed by an unexampled miracle. Shortly after she had entered on the way of perfection, there began to appear to her a golden globe which became as a sun of matchless light; in this all things were revealed to her. Past and future were to her an open book. She knew with certainty the fate of teh dead. Her gaze travelled to the ends of the earth and discovered there people on whom she had never set eyes, reading them to the depth of their souls. One glace sufficed; upon whatever she focused her thoughts it was revealed to her and her understanding. She saw the whole world as we see the front of a building. It was the same with nations as with individuals; she saw the cause of their distresses and the remedies that would heal them. On curing the sick, p. 10: She touched the sick, and they were cured; she warned others of their approaching end, and they died holy deaths. She endured great austeries for the souls in Purgatory, and the souls, once set free, came to thank her... --- End forwarded message --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beliefs (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: One could say that the common denominator in both cases is the rigidity of their underlying belief system and the level of personal identification they have with that rigid belief system. Anything that appears to contradict the belief system is perceived as a personal attack against them, because they have identified with their belief system so strongly. I think you've just described the nature of identification in bondage. The ego creates all these beliefs vital to buttressing its little world. Threaten the beliefs, and you threaten the ego's very existence. - Patrick Gillam The ego IS the belief... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, MY understanding is that MMY used Shankara's description of meditation as dying the cloth, combined with the traditional Patanjali discussion of mind fluctuations, all wrapped up in western terminology ala Hans Selye... But hey, maybe he read Dianetics first. As I think I've mentioned before here, I doubt he's ever really read anything of the literature of Scientology or any other spiritual tradition. But Maharishi had a strong core follower in the early days of the movement who had been L. Ron Hubbard's personal secretary for many, many years, and she probably told him a few things about Hubbard. Right. I am of course not referring to the TM itself, but to the explanation that is given especially at the second day checking, that is stress release, and thought being an expression of it. The idea that stresses, for example emotional are restored in the body and upon release are giving rise to thought activity. The idea that the thought will be not necessarily exact, but could respond by association. That there is a mixture, i.e. a cluster of stress released. That there is a cycle. But this is exactly what the samskaras are in the Yogic tradition. Ever occur to you that maybe Hubbard was familiar with THAT? Its not the same, but you feel that he modelled it after the auditing model of Dianetics. In a similar way, MMY has expressed his admiration for Yogananda, and overtook things from him, most notably a vebatim quote from one of Y's books in the secret steps. I remember at Squaw Valley 1968 she mentioned her personal feelings that Hubbard was probably the most brilliant man she had ever met, but was at the same time (in her exact word) certifiable. She felt that he had a streak of paranoia that influenced everything he ever did or wrote. Hubbard was a colorful personaility to say the least. Just last night I did some internet research on all I could get hold on about scientology. I have clearly experienced how through enlightenment experiences concepts vanish, and realized that our conditioning is holding us back. The idea to work on this conditioning is therefore interesting to me. I found that Hubbard was obviously a big fan of Aleister Crowley, and made some very secret mackic rituals with one of his disciples called Jack Parson, he even overtook his girlfriend. http://www.religio.de/atack/occ1.html There is also some speculation that the word Dianetics is reminescent of the Goddess Diana. Hubbard had appearances of a goddess he called the Empress. Scientology became an amalgan between psychotherapy, mackic and basically gnostic thought. In its later stages, from OT3 on, it becomes a sort of psychotherapeutic exorcism. There is a strange story called OT3,a sort of science fiction fairy tale you can read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu which accounts for the existence of quasy demonic uncounscious souls,which occupy our body limbs by the thousands according to Hubbard,and are conscequently exorcised,i.e. liberated through auditing from OT3 to OT7. See http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html There is also a controversy about that according to sci religious ideas have been implanted by the 'bad guy' xenu intohuman brains in order to control us called R6. In the highest level OT8 one alledgedly has to abondan these ideas see http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/ot8b.html This is clearly gnostic thought,were the creator of the heavens is being looked down at as basically the imprisoner of thought. So scientology does retain its originally gnostic/mackic attribute. In having a great emphazis on reincarnation, karma, release of karma, identifying ourselves as Gods, it is much closer to Hindu and Buddhist philosophy than to Xthianity, which I think is a good thing. It also seems that the everage practitioner is not necessarily acquqainted with these higher philosophical aspects, and simply uses the tools to become more 'aware' about his own conditioning, and releases it in a non-judgemental way. I came across webpages of people who parted with the organization for ovious reasons, but still did auditing, also of the higher levels, and there are independed organizations offering it, like http://freezoneamerica.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for ruining my morning. Ann Coulters hot, who is she? - Original Message - From: easyone200 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers http://www.reandev.com/taliban/ A crazy conservative white woman. She thinks that Joe McCarthy is one of the great unsung heros of the USA. http://slate.msn.com/id/2085977/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: OnWard Christian Soldiers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari Om, You will find this Web-Link most interesting and absorbing. Islamic hateful anti-Semitic lies. what's new. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Santa Cruz TM forest retreat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/16/05 11:45 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip John Konhaus likes to sail. Is John Konhaus the mysterious Guy Banner? humm. Don't think so. Guy Banner said he had to build a Peace Palace. Konhaus is Raja of the whole West Coast and French Polynesia. Including Nauru? Well, FWIW, hereabouts nauru = laughter... Nauru, of course, is that Island Nation that was at one time the richest country on Earth because the natives had sold the bird- dropping-rich land from underneath them to the Aussies for billions...then the natives used up all their money really fast and now most of them are impoverished again...thus proving Zig Ziglar's axiom that if you took all the money from everyone in the U.S. and then divided it equally amongst everyone that within 6 months everyone that was rich before would have all their money back as they had it before... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
