[FairfieldLife] Dr. G. M.'s Idenity

2008-02-15 Thread skypilot1958
The 'Dr. G.M.' they refer to is apparently Dr. Mahapatra at whose TM Center in Orissa I taught a TTC back in 1981. I deduced his identity from the description they give below and from the webpage linked below where he is listed with his full name "Dr Gyanendra Mahapatra" as a member of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Another way of looking at it, George, is that > Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. > > That does not imply that he never understood it. > I recall a lecture that Chopra gave where he turned apologetical

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > Couple points: > > That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular > mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, someone in the movement acknowledges that MMY in the 1990s had a > serious illness that required an allopathic medicine intervention ? > Its about time. So many movement people died for bias against > allop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Antrim NH M-school to open with 50-75 students

2008-02-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 50-75 students is a pretty wide range. If that many students are indefinite, > I doubt that even 50 are definite. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 /

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Larry
(Hopefully) One last blovial blast of hot air - - - When observers are gathered in His Name - aka gathered in TC, then they all have the same initial distinction of Self - and therefore identical distinctions of non self - then there is nothing but Truth, but they won't agree on it by force of hab

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK Daily Mail Article on MMY/David Jones

2008-02-15 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for posting that Geezer. I am kind of fascinated about > Maharishi's last 10 years in the bubble. I wonder if he went a little > Howard Hughes in his last decade? Did he have tissue rituals and use >

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
> > Interestingly enough, Stu, having been > around the spiritual teacher block a few > times in the 30 years since I last saw > Maharishi, I would describe *him* the > same way you describe Chopra. He had a > few introductory concepts down and he > spent 50 years winging it and finding > differ

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK Daily Mail Article on MMY/David Jones

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for posting that Geezer. I am kind of fascinated about Maharishi's last 10 years in the bubble. I wonder if he went a little Howard Hughes in his last decade? Did he have tissue rituals and use tissue boxes for slippers? Inquiring minds want to know! Was his health really so fragile in h

[FairfieldLife] Re Chopra's Writings

2008-02-15 Thread Timothy
Some recent posts have referred (sometimes disparagingly) to Chopra's books. I was surprised that nobody mentioned that Dr. Chopra's books were ghost-written. The author was a Pususha guy (sorry, don't remember his name) who got lots of $$$. After Dr Chopra became persona non grata with the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: youtube -- photo tribute to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2008-02-15 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Off, > > > > Don't quit -- your meds seem to be working today! > > > > Edg > > > That is so original old man. > Get a life you useless crud, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > > > > > > Stu, you've got an evil sense of humor on > you. If you were to join Curtis and Geez > in Fairfield for their party-down I might > have to show up just

[FairfieldLife] Re: For a few laughs

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > > > > Here is a video I did for Vanityfair.com. They put it up today. > > > > In Memoriam > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread mainstream20016
I surmise that MMY's eccentric directions to his troops to perform actions without rational concern for the outcome of their actions didn't dominate his persona until the TM movement began its retreat from integration with the world, and became progressively insular. From 1957 to 1977, the f

[FairfieldLife] UK Daily Mail Article on MMY/David Jones

2008-02-15 Thread geezerfreak
06/02/08 - Lennon was right. The Giggling Guru was a shameless old fraud By DAVID JONES To his millions of dream-eyed devotees, he was the ultimate spiritual leader; a masterful guru whose meditation techniques could induce a state of euphoric bliss, and even teach them to defy gravity by "

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread gandalfaragorn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Couple points: > That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular >mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really there. Shankara >made the term clear long before MMY by explaining that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Don't forget Jennifer's comment, that Maharishi often derided the Westerners > as "gullible fools" for believing all the things he told them. > That comment lends itself to the narcissistic personality disorder theory of Maharishi. It would be a characteristic of this type of person to have co

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:32 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor --- In HYPERLINK "m

[FairfieldLife] Off Off

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
Off World Beings unsubscribed. He’ll be back. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
> My take, anyway. > And I think your take is accurate for what I lived particularly in India for a few months but also in Sidhaland where we would get directions to follow. So we certainly believed it as you presented it.The trick was to fully engage with each project fully, even knowing that the

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:00 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action He allowed this belief to exi

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ultrarishi Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor And who is Dr. G.M.? Does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Take these three things together (and perhaps a few others) > > and M's constant crazy project binges make sense, IMO, and > > puts it all in context. Seen in this light, his binges were > > a most wonderful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread ultrarishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please note that Dr G M is an outstanding Indian Governor > responsible for single-handedly creating the first group of 8,000 > pundits in India. He is a Maharishi-trained TM-Sidhi instructor and > teacher of Adva

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blaine Watson: 1994

2008-02-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In 1982 Maharishi asked us to make ourselves expert in Jyotish, the > Vedanga of astrology. A few of us took the instruction to heart. For > me, this was the beginning of decades of complications in my > rep

Re: [FairfieldLife] RePosting Limitslet them snipe off line & go to the old30

2008-02-15 Thread WLeed3
In a message dated 2/15/2008 10:30:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > By my count Judy's at 170 and Barry at

[FairfieldLife] Re: youtube -- photo tribute to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2008-02-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Off, > > Don't quit -- your meds seem to be working today! > > Edg > That is so original old man. Get a life you useless crud, and stop spewing teenage jibes on the internet that not even teenagers use anymore, but o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

2008-02-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > By my count Judy's at 170 and Barry at 117 for the week. My count may > be inflated because I've been getting duplicates of some posts via

[FairfieldLife] Re: For a few laughs

2008-02-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is a video I did for Vanityfair.com. They put it up today. > > In Memoriam > 00803> > I particularly liked the "Pretense of Objectivity"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If indeed, MMY displayed a low level of expectation (but a high > level of creative motivation with this and that project), well, I'd > say it points to a relative failure at achieving some preconceived > results (a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Take these three things together (and perhaps a few others) and M's > constant crazy project binges make sense, IMO, and puts it all in > context. Seen in this light, his binges were a most wonderful and > creative dance over 40 years. And a wonderful path for some who could > keep up and withsta

[FairfieldLife] Curious in WI

2008-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
>> > > > What's the buzz in FF? Is Hagelin going to pull any of this off, > >or > > is the TMO quickly going to slip into the unmanifest? > > > > Sign me, > > Curious in WI > > > > Also: > > > WI, It is going to be about shakti. Take a look at this post (link). It is how it goes here. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread yifuxero
--Precisely, auth: being highly motivated to succeed can ONLY be measured (in the economic sense) via a quantifiable level of profits in some form. That's an expectation, is is not? This means one does her best to achieve a goal - (then don't mope about it); then go onto the next goal. The fac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread new . morning
Yes, you are correct. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > Take these three things together (and perhaps a few others) and > > M's constant crazy project binges make sense, IMO, and put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > Take these three things together (and perhaps a few others) and > > M's constant crazy project binges make sense, IMO, and puts it > > all in context

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My guess is that Deepak was telling the truth, with some embellishment and fuzziness do to lapse of time, and GM (Girish Momaya?) is trying to whitewash it for posterity. Thanks for revealing the source, who evidently

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread new . morning
The point is I think is the realization that we have control over the action only, not over the fruit. Whether we get the fruit or not is up to any number of things. I know entrepreneurs and those in service fields like real estate, who never focus on the end result -- other than setting it in th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

2008-02-15 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By my count Judy's at 170 and Barry at 117 for the week. My count may be inflated because I've been getting duplicates of some posts via email. Same old, same old.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
My earlier problem with your statement is that there is a distinction between truth and fact. As you are using the word, you really mean "fact" not "truth." So when I substitute "fact" then your statement makes total sense. - Original Message From: Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---The traditional "expectation" angle doesn't make much sense > in terms of the obvious economic laws. The bottom line: get > results or you're outta here. Expectation is an ingrained > behavior prevalent in all evo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take these three things together (and perhaps a few others) and > M's constant crazy project binges make sense, IMO, and puts it > all in context. Seen in this light, his binges were a most > wonderful and creative dan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread tertonzeno
---The traditional "expectation" angle doesn't make much sense in terms of the obvious economic laws. The bottom line: get results or you're outta here. Expectation is an ingrained behavior prevalent in all evolutionary pathways of sufficiently advanced organisms. Can you feature a mountain lio

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I could be wrong of course, but I always felt > > > > Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding > > of > > > > Maharishi's teaching. > > > > > > Another way of loo

[FairfieldLife] Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action

2008-02-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > WHY I don't agree is because of the real nature > of selfless service. It FREES you from having too > much attachment to any *expectations* regarding > the service performed. You do something nice for > someone, or for

[FairfieldLife] India and Beyond - Curious in WI

2008-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
> > FW: > From, Curious in WI > > > if Raja Hagelin actually DOES some of the things he's suggesting, >it > seems will pretty much prove that Maharishi was himself the primary > impediment to the revitalization of the movement and spread of TM > over the last 2 decades. He had to die before

[FairfieldLife] Re: For a few laughs

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is a video I did for Vanityfair.com. They put it up today. > > In Memoriam > Truly marvelous. I wept. >From laughter.

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I could be wrong of course, but I always felt > > > Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of > > > Maharishi's teaching. > > > > Another way of looking at it, George, is that > > Chopra *disagrees* with Maha

[FairfieldLife] For a few laughs

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
Here is a video I did for Vanityfair.com. They put it up today. In Memoriam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- > Cherry-picking statements as well as looking at the whole can be of > value, depending upon one's intentions. For example, if one > says: "The Bible is the Inerrant Word of God", cherry-picking even a > single

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My guess is that Deepak was telling the truth, with > some embellishment and > fuzziness do to lapse of time, and GM (Girish > Momaya?) is trying to > whitewash it for posterity. Agreed. Notice how he doesn't offer anything other than corrections of

[FairfieldLife] Selfless Service (was Re: Deepak Chopra)

2008-02-15 Thread new . morning
Wonderful quote. Thank you for posting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The effort that is made according to the shaastra, that is puNya > (meritous action) which gives rise to earthly advancement and mokSha > (salvation). > > However much puru

[FairfieldLife] Steeplejacking

2008-02-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
"An unprecedented look inside the battle for religion in America" A manuel for progressive Christians who want to reclaim the church from intolerant, extremist factions http://www.igpub.com/steeplejacking.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Peter
--- Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I could be wrong of course, but I always felt > > > Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding > of > > > Maharishi's teaching. > > > > Another way of looking at it, George, is that > > Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. > > > > That doe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Finally: I am not familiar just off the top of my tired brain what > > part of Genesis talks about selling your daughter into sexual > > slavery. Can you quote the chapter/lines? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Fred > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
> > I could be wrong of course, but I always felt > > Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of > > Maharishi's teaching. > > Another way of looking at it, George, is that > Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. > > That does not imply that he never understood it. > I have been to

Re: [FairfieldLife] The C-word...uh...flap

2008-02-15 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
To think, for decades the clitorati nazis have viciously contentiously said that some, many or all men talk through their dickheads , now we have vaginas talking to themselves. *Who'd've thunk it!* If vaginas can conduct loquatious monologues then for sure they can, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread tertonzeno
--- Cherry-picking statements as well as looking at the whole can be of value, depending upon one's intentions. For example, if one says: "The Bible is the Inerrant Word of God", cherry-picking even a single obviously errant (misguided, a-dharmic) statement can disprove the premise. If we coll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Always looking for more information

2008-02-15 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or in the wake of Maharishi's passing will we see a solidifying of > this autocracy that in my possibly incorrect opinion, perpetuates > occult psuedo science and mind control? Ed, Maharishi was very fond of monarchies a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
> Finally: I am not familiar just off the top of my tired brain what > part of Genesis talks about selling your daughter into sexual > slavery. Can you quote the chapter/lines? > > Best regards, > > Fred > > [anip] > Life is too short to go through and transcribe stuff out of the OT. I seem to r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Antrim NH M-school to open with 50-75 students

2008-02-15 Thread Duveyoung
Nablusoss the Fabulous, Let's take a count. How many here love Rick? I love Rick. See, Nab, almost everyone! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Rick, > > > > After all these ye

[FairfieldLife] Re: Antrim NH M-school to open with 50-75 students

2008-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick, > > After all these years, what don't you understand about "See? Almost > everyone?" Rick loves to "see". As long as he can keep his green glasses on that is... :-) > > Edg > PS Without posting limits, I can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Antrim NH M-school to open with 50-75 students

2008-02-15 Thread Duveyoung
Rick, After all these years, what don't you understand about "See? Almost everyone?" Edg PS Without posting limits, I can't help myself from cracking my gum, snortsnarking and chortling at the back of the room. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

RE: [FairfieldLife] Antrim NH M-school to open with 50-75 students

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
50-75 students is a pretty wide range. If that many students are indefinite, I doubt that even 50 are definite. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1279 - Release Date: 2/14/2008 6:35 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Behalf Of authfriend > > Angela Mailander > wrote: > > > > Couple points: > > That the material world is an illusion was understood in the > > popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really > > the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Always looking for more information

2008-02-15 Thread matrixmonitor
---No. Mostly wrong. First, the Puja is a "necessary" part of TM since the Shakti energy which enlivens the mantra is conveyed in part through the Puja. Taking away one part of the program after another results in a technique devoid of Shakti. One might as well just get the mantra from a book

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Duveyoung
Matthew 18:18-20 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Larry, "What we have here is a failure to communicate." Any egoic projection fits your views, below, but pure truth seemingly IS available

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Larry
Thinking back now, I should have included a smily face, then it wouldn't have come off as such a wild ass axiom - but too late now. What I should have said was: If you have two or more observers, you can not have Truth. As each observer distinguishs self - what lies outside of that first disti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Always looking for more information

2008-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I just joined the FFL group today and just want to say I'm > enjoying the posts and wide range of outlooks. >I learned the TM technique off campus, no puja. Very good, Puja is not necessary. I just wanted to

Re: [FairfieldLife] 9-11 Coincidences Video

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks Bhairitu. When I hear things like "take from a story what you need" I think of the stories our official history books tell us. Might there be a problem with "taking from a story" what who, exactly, needs? No offense Turq. This is not against you, but it is about the statement you made

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Obama= Much Better Theater'

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Obama offers much better theater, > In our living rooms, and world, > For the next chapter. > Kind of like Shakespere, > Compared to The Daily News... Well said. A vote for Hilary is a vote for the status quo. Nothing w

[FairfieldLife] Always looking for more information

2008-02-15 Thread Mr. Ed
I just joined the FFL group today and just want to say I'm enjoying the posts and wide range of outlooks. I learned the TM technique off campus, no puja. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing the contempt prior to investigation thing. Having spent a fair amount of time researching and

[FairfieldLife] Selfless Service (was Re: Deepak Chopra)

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The effort that is made according to the shaastra, that is puNya > (meritous action) which gives rise to earthly advancement and mokSha > (salvation). > > However much purushhaartha (effort) is needed for a task, that

[FairfieldLife] a flaw in Neo-Advaita

2008-02-15 Thread tertonzeno
Per http://www.spiritualteachers.org website, the origins of Neo- Advaita may traced to to certain misinterpretations of Shankara; with some allegiance to the more nihilistic-oriented teachings and/or comments of Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj. A key point of most Neo-Advaitins (Ramesh

[FairfieldLife] Antrim NH M-school to open with 50-75 students

2008-02-15 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2008/02/15/visio\ n_for_antrim_school_changed/

[FairfieldLife] 'Obama= Much Better Theater'

2008-02-15 Thread Robert
Obama offers much better theater, In our living rooms, and world, For the next chapter. Kind of like Shakespere, Compared to The Daily News... - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

[FairfieldLife] Selfless Service (was Re: Deepak Chopra)

2008-02-15 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of authfriend > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:50 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Selfless Service

[FairfieldLife] The C-word...uh...flap

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Just to get back to the mundane, and to remind folks here what people in the world are talking about while we debate the fine points of Deepak Chopra's ethics, America is going four-letter- word crazy again. NBC is doing the apology dance because a guest on its "Today" show used what it calls a "v

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"Fair

[FairfieldLife] MMY appreciation

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
One of the things that I appreciate Marshy for that hasn't been sufficiently appreciated (in my opinion) is that he was able to talk at the level of the absolutely unenlightened person who is completely overshadowed by small self and relative world as separate from Self. I don't remember his e

[FairfieldLife] 9-11 Coincidences Video

2008-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
Interesting video on the "maintenance" that was performed on the twin towers before 9-11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHJHAp49Lh8

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I must inform you that his article is replete with untruths and > > inaccuracies. > > Now this is getting really interesting! One of these two is a big fat > liar. How can we figure out which it is? >

[FairfieldLife] 'Dear Abby...My husband, Bill...'

2008-02-15 Thread Robert
Dear Abby: My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from the beginning and, when I confront him, he denies everything. What's worse, everyone knows that he cheats on me. It is so humiliating. Also, since he lost his job six years ago, he hasn't even looked for a new one. All he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks for the clarification. I had read Shankara independently of MMY's teaching. - Original Message From: authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:48:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My guess is that Deepak was telling the truth, with some > embellishment and fuzziness do to lapse of time, and GM > (Girish Momaya?) is trying to whitewash it for posterity. I have exactly the same guess. Chopra

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's right action? (Selfless Service (was Re: Deepak Chopra))

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Edg, I love your story which is a vast and imaginative improvement over the usual "For want of a nail the shoe was lost, for want of a shoe the horse was lost, for want of a horse, the man was lost, for want of the man, the battle was lost...etc." Ultimately, the war was lost. The short name f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My guess is that Deepak was telling the truth, with some > embellishment and fuzziness do to lapse of time, and GM > (Girish Momaya?) is trying to whitewash it for posterity. How do you account for the year Chopra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread boyboy_8
Not from what I've read. From one small point of view you could use the word descend. The awareness hovers over the M and then you "descend" into it, as if you were sort of slipping into a vehicle that was going to transport you. It was a sort of metaphysical transport of types, I guess? No

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Couple points: > That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really there. Shankara made the term clear long before MMY MMY attributed hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blaine Watson: 1994

2008-02-15 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow. What a story. I am unsure if your concluding perspective on > Jyotish is that it's all mumbo-jumbo or it has a valid basis for > being taken seriously? A quick Google search gives me the impression that Blaine W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:21 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to

[FairfieldLife] DEEPAK CHOPRA, MD

2008-02-15 Thread suziezuzie
http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView? P_LICENSE_NUMBER=51479&P_LTE_ID=789

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
First, George, thank you so much for expressing your opinion of Chopra so clearly and so compassionately. I didn't feel in your post a gram of the anger and hostility I've been talking about feeling in some other recent posts about him. Just one comment: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ge

[FairfieldLife] 'John McCain's Transcendent Challenge= Addiction to War'

2008-02-15 Thread Robert
John McCain's challenge is to transcend to value of war. Is war really the best value for Christians? How could this be? Jesus is called the 'Prince of Peace' Who best fits this description of all the candidates, I wonder? Certainly not another addicted war-monger... How in the worl

[FairfieldLife] Selfless Service (was Re: Deepak Chopra)

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This debate about whether or not "good works" (in whose > opinion are they good?) get you "there" is part of the > Christian tradition also. But if karma is indeed > unfathomable (and it seems to be the case i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits- Back to 50/week as of midnight

2008-02-15 Thread mainstream20016
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope. Back to 50/week as of midnight central tonight. > (snip) Thank you, Rick !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
> I must inform you that his article is replete with untruths and > inaccuracies. Now this is getting really interesting! One of these two is a big fat liar. How can we figure out which it is? Interestingly he doesn't refute the poison claim. When Maharishi came to Fairfield in '75 I heard

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
My guess is that Deepak was telling the truth, with some embellishment and fuzziness do to lapse of time, and GM (Girish Momaya?) is trying to whitewash it for posterity. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5/1279 - R

RE: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limits

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Posting Limits So, just in case Rick is thinking of going back to 35 posts per week, I add my vote for 50/we

Re: [FairfieldLife] making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Couple points: That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really there. Shankara made the term clear long before MMY by explaining that "illusion" in this context means "not real" in the sense that it is changing, not in th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D

2008-02-15 Thread Kirk
Or descends. Sounds like Magical Net Buddhist practices. - Original Message - From: "boyboy_8" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Description of mantra?? : D > Boyboy (Fred) knows of Merkabah. The contemplative technique of the

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