--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote:
Miraculous competence!
Amazing!
http://tinyurl.com/6q6weu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony...@... wrote:
Ah, thank you Ruth. I was wondering given
the record. Improved 'moral
reasoning' is solemnly pointed to by
the Dr. in Hagelin's powerpoint
present. Moral reasonging. It is a
mouthful as he says
When John talks about moral reasoning improving, I'm sure he's talking about
some sort of assessment utilizing Kohlberg's model of moral reasoning. The
irony is that there is a poor correlation between moral reasoning and moral
behavior. For most of us, research indicates that we have morals of
Alex wrote:
I checked the logs, and you did delete two
posts, but that still leaves you at 51.
shemp wrote:
If one could get under the wire by deleting
the overage, we all should have been informed
of this loophole.
Cut his balls off.
What? You mean you can delete the overage? If
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote:
with no control group you demonstrate nothing
other than symptoms of ADHD were reduced, but
you do not isolate the causal variable without
a frigging control group.
I've understood that the purpose of exploratory
studies is to justify
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk wrote:
Massachusetts is arguably the most liberal
state in the union. After all, it has gay
marriage and sends the likes of Ted Kennedy, John
Kerry, and Barney Frank to Congress.
That's why I find it ironic that it is the
only state
I take the below as a serious in-your-face-take-that-science challenge
to today's understandings about how mind can be found operative in
existence's subtlest realms.
Even if it is only a case of some sort of radiation between molecules
that has yet to be measured by a refined measuring device
Like many mantras, this one begins with
Om. Om has no meaning, and its origins
are lost in the mists of time...
Probably the first mention of the esoteric
syllabe 'Om' is found in the Mandukhya
Upanishad (circa 800 AD), where it is said
by Gaudapada to be a meditation symbol.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams willy...@...
wrote:
Like many mantras, this one begins with
Om. Om has no meaning, and its origins
are lost in the mists of time...
Probably the first mention of the esoteric
syllabe 'Om' is found in the Mandukhya
Upanishad
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:10 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk wrote:
Massachusetts is arguably the most liberal
state in the union. After all, it has gay
marriage and sends the likes of Ted Kennedy, John
Kerry, and Barney
http://goldendome.org/transcript.htm#Henry%20Clark
It is funny how it seems to work out like that. About 108 days ago, we
decided to build two domes instead of one and decided what size they
were, and every one told us that this normally would take at least two
and half years to construct. Maybe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
-snip-
you are talking about an organization
that believes to its core that an enlightened being
is in tune with the laws of nature and that such
an enlightened being cannot possibly perform wrong
action,
-snip-
so if we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
-snip-
you are talking about an organization
that believes to its core that an enlightened being
is in tune with the laws of nature and that such
On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Hugo wrote:
In tune with the universe What does that even mean?
How can you be out of tune with it? Do you think that the
universe has a way that we have to behave and then it approves
and gives us nature support?
Cmon, Hugo, haven't you ever heard the universe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
As long as you are talking about an organization
that believes to its core that an enlightened being
is in tune with the laws of nature and that such
an enlightened being cannot possibly perform wrong
action, then
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:
On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Hugo wrote:
In tune with the universe What does that even mean?
How can you be out of tune with it? Do you think that the
universe has a way that we have to behave and then it
Longer mantras (e.g. the Great Compansion
Mantra of Kwan Yin, the Surangama Sutra
mantra,...etc) ime, are more suitable for
chanting...
In Buddhist practice, some longer mantras
are called 'dharanis', but you don't really
need to memorize long dharanis or sutras - a
short tantric 'bija'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk wrote:
Massachusetts is arguably the most liberal
state in the union. After all, it has gay
marriage and sends the likes of Ted Kennedy, John
Kerry, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
As long as you are talking about an organization
that believes to its core that an enlightened being
is in tune with the laws of nature and that such
I remember MMY talking about free will he said we have free will
when we are no longer a football of life and our will becomes the
will of God. The enlightened person's will becomes Thy will be done,
and this is right action. If anyone else remembers this chime in.
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote:
It's this idea that nature wants us to do *anything
at all* that baffles me.
Me, too.
I think it comes from the same place that the ten
commandments and all other religious edicts come from.
No, not God but *claimed*
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ethical behavior (was Re: spirituality spot found in
brain)
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:25 AM
--- In
Dr. King, McKinney and Obamaþ
Glen Ford - glen.f...@blackagen daReport. com
Wed 1/07/09
Black Agenda Report
The global reputation of Black America has suffered greatly under
George Bush, who deployed Black faces as fronts for his vicious brand
of U.S.
Dairy farmers in New Jersey and Pennsylvania face a new tax owing to
the noxious gasses from the rear ends of their cows.
As we all know, we are all going to hell in a handcart owing to our
emissions of *toxic* CO2. However, farts being high in methane, and
methane being a significantly more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
I remember MMY talking about free will he said we have free will
when we are no longer a football of life and our will becomes the
will of God. The enlightened person's will becomes Thy will be done,
and this is right
Om. Good observation Pete,
About TM crap research.
790 research papers `justifying' TM. A year ago the PR on TM was
parading 300. Few months ago it was 600. Is probably 800 today now.
If only half or even just a third of these papers weren't crap
research as Pete points out here, they
On Jan 7, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Peter wrote:
In tune with the universe What does that even
mean?
How can you be out of tune with it? Do you think that the
universe has a way that we have to behave and then it
approves
and gives us nature support? is TM the best way
to get
the universe on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
As long as you are talking about an organization
that believes to its
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
I remember MMY talking about free will he said we have free will
when we are no longer a football of life and our will becomes the
will
You certainly can assume that. But my point is that
you can believe the enlightened person is acting in
accord with the laws of nature and still choose not
to do what the person says--just as if you made the
assumption you cite--without being inconsistent.
In other words, it makes no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
I remember MMY talking about free will he said we have free will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
You certainly can assume that. But my point is that
you can believe the enlightened person is acting in
accord with the laws of nature and still choose not
to do what the person says--just as if you made
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@...
wrote:
I remember MMY talking about free will he said
we have free will when we are no longer a football
of life and our will becomes the will of God. The
enlightened person's will becomes Thy will be done,
and this is right
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
snip
It is an unresolved issue in philosophy. It is
mostly used as a way to train philosophical
reasoning but the question itself is not
answered by saying the guy is in UC.
How could a question that is
Coulter vs. the Counter-Coulters
By L. Brent Bozell III
CNSNews.com | Wednesday, January 07, 2009
Ann Coulter's new book Guilty is out and two things are certain: It
will surely be another best-seller, and she will once again drive the
Left bonkers. No institution will be more offended than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote:
But if MMY was a philosopher, wouldn't we have to say his position
was (officially): Try to obtain enlightenment; but in the meantime
follow the dictats of your religion (or whatever).
This is because (philosophically
authfriend wrote:
How could a question that is resolved only in UC be resolvable in
philosophy when philosophy itself is dualistic?
Edg:
Words, words, words. Are we really still battling to be the ultimate
definer of words?
Like: resolvable.
What COULDN'T that mean? My contentment that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
It is an unresolved issue in philosophy. It is
mostly used as a way to train philosophical
reasoning but the question itself is not
Not trusting the TMO or even myself because of my two years of med school (I
didn't go on because I just couldn't take being around sick people) and
loads of science training, I decided that the experiences I've been having
over the years might just be the result of neurological or mental defect.
This is because (philosophically speaking) he was an ethical
pessimist: the reasoning mind is inadequate to figure out real moral
dilemmas. MMY follows Plato (Socrates): good acts are based on good
knowledge (bad acts are based on ignorance, not evil tendencies).
Without Knowledge, your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote:
But if MMY was a philosopher, wouldn't we have to say his position
was (officially): Try to obtain enlightenment; but in the meantime
follow the
Now this is an ad, IMO. Arhata, I would suggest being more discrete like
just having a link to your website as part of your signature or if
someone asked then explaining what you offer and a link. This however,
if I were a moderator, looks more blatant. Of course others might say
there is
Not a chance in hell that Curtis can define resolved, but at least
when he tries, we all get closer to what our own private definitions
really are by comparing our POVs with his.
That is a nice reputation to try to live up to Edg. This is my goal:
to articulate where I stand on issues and
An ad? That's a new one!
Now this is an ad, IMO. Arhata, I would suggest being more discrete like
just having a link to your website as part of your signature or if
someone asked then explaining what you offer and a link. This however,
if I were a moderator, looks more blatant. Of course
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
An ad? That's a new one!
I'm with Bhairitu on this one, his feedback was valid.
I'm glad you are happier surfing then whatever you did on Wall Street.
That doesn't mean that I am in some box just because you finally
really GOT
Bizarre response! Most in this group know who they are beyond polarity?
That's an interesting speculation! Then why respond as such?
Is there judgment here? Dialog would better find a more accurate
interpretation.
Arhata
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com,
curtisdeltablues wrote:
Some of us already know who we REALLY are. It isn't that big a deal.
Curtis, you're talking about the spectrum called personality, right?
Not something beyond the physical, right?
Word schmerds, eh?
If you have the time, I would dwell with a serious intent on your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
Questions: when did you finally become you? when did you finally
conclude that you had finally concluded about who you are? how does
change impact your certainties? aging must mellow all so how does
that jibe witcha? do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
It is an unresolved issue in philosophy. It is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
curtisdeltablues wrote:
Some of us already know who we REALLY are. It isn't that big a deal.
Curtis, you're talking about the spectrum called personality, right?
Not something beyond the physical, right?
Isn't our
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
-snip-
you are talking about an organization
that believes to its
Thanks for this. I like to read these first-hand experiences.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal
l.shad...@... wrote:
[snip]
With the massive ego that grows
more each day and the realization
that I know God, that I look out and see
myself looking back at me, I think I
https://vedicpandits.org/Video/INTRO9/Creating_World_Peace.html
I know you have given this topic some deep thought Judy and it shows.
Interesting response. You put your finger on where the line is drawn
between believing that such a non-dual state is possible and not.
Gee, I have a hard time imagining a *more*
mysterious statement than that! A world which
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Bizarre response!
Thanks, I hope it was entertaining.
Most in this group know who they are beyond polarity?
Yes.
That's an interesting speculation! Then why respond as such?
Because you were preaching to the
Comment below:
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:[in reply to:] Do you think that the
universe has a way that we have to behave and then it approves
and gives us nature support?
**snip
unmistakably. however most people understand that to be a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote:
https://vedicpandits.org/Video/INTRO9/Creating_World_Peace.html
Do I get a photo and letter from my pundit every month telling me how
he is doing?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis
reavisma...@... wrote:
Comment below:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_reply@ wrote:[in reply to:] Do you think that the
universe has a way that we have to behave and then it approves
and gives us nature
Maharishi Group:
Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages,
the last 2 being 'Old People' and
'Reinvent Yourself'
If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group, and who
don't even know the meaning of 'spam' or 'click off', you should count
me out
or, offer an
The easy, instantaneous in-flight correction of a bird in response to
wind turbulence is a wonderful analogy, and thanks for that.
It would seem to me that very few animals (if any, but perhaps some of
the large primate cousins) besides humans have the sense of separation
that characterizes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Maharishi Group:
Ref.: to my daily I page consciousness messages,
the last 2 being 'Old People' and
'Reinvent Yourself'
If this is the kind of participation that goes on in this group,
and who don't even know the meaning of
800 bus atheist ad campaign in London.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/europe/07london.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis
reavisma...@... wrote:
The easy, instantaneous in-flight correction of a bird in response
to
wind turbulence is a wonderful analogy, and thanks for that.
It would seem to me that very few animals (if any, but perhaps
some of
the
Some of you can't be reached any other way then blasting out to the whole
group. Please pardon me if you have no interest in this post.
My friend the citizen sidha appears to have been doing his program right or
having me in IA (where things magically appear) has helped get some results.
First
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has provoked
insecurities and that's
good as it's an opportunity for those who see
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.comwrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a passion and, this
judgment is
a new one! Thank you! Something I've wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal
l.shad...@... wrote:
Some of you can't be reached any other way then blasting out to the
whole
group. Please pardon me if you have no interest in this post.
My friend the citizen sidha appears to have been doing his program
right or
Is the syllable 'Om' mentioned in the Rig
Veda, the Brahma Sutra, Bhagavad Gita, or
in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras?
BillyG wrote:
All this is OM, that hum, which is the first
silent sound, first silent wave that starts
from that silent ocean of unmanifested life.
MMY
According to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
I remember MMY talking about free will he said
we have free will when we are no longer a football
of life and our will becomes the will of God. The
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:
I feel blessed to have received hugs from Ammachi every year since
1988.
Must find infidel. Must report infidel to Development of Consciousness
office. Infidel has not been assimilated. Infidel is dangerous to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@...
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
I feel blessed to have received hugs from Ammachi every year since
1988.
Must find infidel. Must report infidel to Development of
Consciousness
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit. My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress..
I love to comment on others if I see the opportunity
Anyone who sees it as other has made their own misinterpretation of any
intentions. You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Curtis
The judgments you make below are fine, but they do befuddle dialog
a bit.
Asking you to tell your story befuddles you?
My writing is NOT intended as anything but what I feel to espress
So you are not
On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Arhata
Gesundheit!
LOL!
Sal
Sal
Zeit Gesundheit!!
On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Arhata
Gesundheit!
LOL!
Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal
l.shad...@... wrote:
Not trusting the TMO or even myself because of my two years of med
school (I
didn't go on because I just couldn't take being around sick people) and
loads of science training, I decided that the experiences I've been
--Venice Beach, the Rose Cafe, circa early 70's; the place where I
first about Swami Muktananda.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespeech@ wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and,
Curtis
It's ok if you're judgmental, but I haven't the time to go round and round
about misinterpretations that give you away. I'm sure you mean to be
productive in what you
write and if others feel so or not, let them speak up. I only dialog from
the heart and awareness as much as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
I know you have given this topic some deep thought Judy and it shows.
Interesting response. You put your finger on where the line is drawn
between believing that such a non-dual state is possible and not.
--Sorry - first learned about Muktananda. The Mahareeshee uses the
term God; but Willytex says people can't use that term. Lakshmanjoo
uses it.
Swami Lakshmanjoo on karma:
The first difference, therefore, between Kashmir Saivism and
Vedanta is in their different understanding of karmayoga.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I know you have given this topic some deep thought Judy and it
shows.
Interesting response. You put your finger on where the line is
Curtis
Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's not exactly
the way the Mararishi would respond. You may
be representative of consciousness here because of a collective 'belief
system' that engenders fear that cloaks as judgment. I get who you are,
I'm just into dialog
hi arhata,
i just read some of your billboards on your website, to see what all
the fuss is about. what i read were some basic statements about
mindfulness and witnessing. what i read were attempts by you to wake
people up to a new way of seeing the world. what i read were various
essays
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Curtis
It's ok if you're judgmental, but I haven't the time to go round and
round about misinterpretations that give you away.
Again with the putdowns. You have a great rapport technique.
I'm sure you mean
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Curtis
You are responding to the wrong person. I am the eternal wrote the
post you are responding to.
Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's
not exactly
the way the Mararishi would
Thank you for your interest
I haven't your name?
Just a brief response here until later.
Brief outline of my background:
Graduated at University of Oregon
20 years on Wall st. primarily as an Account Executive in the Financial Field
Had a vision to start a spiritual community/center which I did
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn8b1DL8NGo
The consensus of this group, Arhata, is, unfortunately, that they
want to censor posts.
Although I disagree with their rules, it is their right to do it.
For example, I believe MY free expression has been curtailed here
because I like to post a lot of one or two line responses. But the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal
l.shad...@... wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@...wrote:
Canned, self promoting, and, spiritual pamphlets?? I've been
doing
this for 15 years
with millions of people purely from truth and a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:
Curtis
Telling me I'm not wanted here is fine. No need to say 'scoot'! It's
not exactly
the way the Mararishi would respond.
[snip]
Uh, I wouldn't be too sure of that...
Although, I have no intention, Shem(?) of bowing out or being censored. my
yahoo group for anyone open to some really smart kind open people is
'superconsciousn...@yahoogroups.com' The only rules are limit judgment
and arguing needlessly and then their is compassion. I suspect many here
feel the
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