[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 7:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Thanks for noticing. My shoes are killing me but they look fabulous don't they? You got it, many shoes are high-class torture. Who needs waterboarding when you got those? Amen, sister. :-) After Bhairitu mentioned The Last Templar here recently, I went to the IMDB and looked it up, and I noticed that the majority of the one-star (out of 10) reviews mentioned that they regretted that there was no lower rating that they could use. Well, that made it an absolute must see for me, so I downloaded it and watched it. And I must say that in general the reviewers were right, but that it had redeeming qualities. One of them was Miro Sorvino, as an Indiana Jones-like archeologist, walking about in her Manolo Blahniks. Yes, they made her already-attractive legs look great. But yes, they probably were worse as a form of torture than tossing Indy into a vat full of snakes. :-) I'm with both Curtis and you on the subject of women playing dress-up. I truly appreciate the lengths they go to to look attractive, and often succeed. At the same time, I thought that Mira Sorvino looked just as hot in her archeology togs. I'm sure you look fetching in sweats, with or without the Manolos. It's the inner hotness that counts. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Name the speaker
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:36 PM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@...wrote: Chill the fuck out? I say the opposite: L. Shaddai has shown too much restraint. He should be even MORE angry than he is. To call someone a racist is one of the lowest things you can do in this day and age...and he has every right to be angry. Indeed, the act of posting another person's private or public information on the web is about 10% as outrageous as the act of calling another person a racist without there being any justification for it, which I believe to be the case here (at least as far as the impugned words that everyone seems to be up in arms about). Thank you Shemp. Of course no one bothered to read my response to Edward as to whether or not I had meant what I said with the word spawn. Actually, posting the public information on a public website to help them fill out their next application for credit was the gentlest thing I could do considering the options I have available to me. Don't worry. T'ain't illegal. Neither would be these folks whom you have threatened gathering up a collection of your posts railing against the TMO on this forum and mailing them to the course admin- istrators for IA in Fairfield, right? With your real name attached to them. Using the reasoning you have been displaying lately, that would be a fair thing for someone here to do, right? To defend themselves? And, although there is nothing illegal about it, I suspect you know what would happen as a result, right? Chill the fuck out, dude. You are embarrassing yourself and the IA courses and the meditation programs you seem to enjoy so much. The next time you suggest that *Edg* is manic depressive, I think you're going to hear howls of silent laughter in the background. But it does show how I feel about the snap decisions both made to call me nasty names and their continued repeating this business about racism with me as the object lesson. If they want to perpetuate nasty, well, as you rip so shall ye sew. I think the words you're searching for are reap and sow. That said, I suggest you ponder what I've said above. Of all people on this forum, neither Edg nor Marek are the ones who need to fear much from having the things they'd prefer to keep private made public. But frankly, you do. It's not as if it was difficult to figure out who you are. How many people on one forum brag about having worked for the Gambino family? 'Nuff said, I hope. STOP this embarrassing shit, dude. You have a higher side that is delightful. I enjoy it and enjoy interacting with it. And then you have this inner crazy person who comes out from time to time, and that person acts like a real dick. That's the person who is acting like a petulant child because someone called him on being something that in the past he not only admitted to being himself, but *proudly* admitted to being. STFU. It's the only way you can salvage anything even remotely resembling respect on this forum.
[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: I can't believe you are still quoting Monier-Williams. Do you realize that quoting Monier-Williams is like quoting the Bible as fact. Apachiti = The movement that is the waters that protect from abuse and disease Taijat olla huumormiehii? : ) Yeah, right! Forceps = Power Post Script. Window = be victorious on the stock market! Troll over, Beethoven! LOL! OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Superior Races and The Titantic'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: I believe that we are all souls, having the experience of inhabiting a body, for the time we are here, this time... The main lesson of all humans who considered themselves superior to others, or choose to use this supposed superiority to dominate others, make a clear mistake to life. If a white guy like me, spends some time in Mexico, after a while, it will appear that I am brown. So, whether you wish to quote Abraham Lincoln, Adolf Hitler, or whomever, they were both wrong on this subject. Being Jewish, I would also add, it is wrong to consider Arabs inferior, and vice versa... Until we get this lesson, we will be constricted by this limited and obnoxious belief...that one is superior than others. Remember the land we occupy, was stolen from the Native Americans, who lived here for thousands of years, caring for the land, and developing many, many beautiful traditions...they too were wiped out by the ones who considered themselves, superior. When you consider yourself superior, you are asking for a fall... I remember one time, when I was working with a teenager, who was autistic, and had the functional level of a two year old. I thought to myself, how could God create such a one, and also create a Maharishi. Later, my question was answered, when I was leaving... He, somehow knew, I was going, intuitively, I guess, and I felt from him the same kind of unconditional love, that I had felt in Maharishi's presence... R.G. What's wrong with this babajii fellow, posting a sane post on FFL !
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Some day woman will team with men, and sex will be held to be a sacrament (like in the Catholic Church) and woman won't flaunt *it* in a selfish attempt to gain some advantage here or there. Certainly as a society we can do better, time for *real* change. Why not put yourself out of your misery and move to the countries in the Mideast where they have their women under control? Many people are not threatened by a woman who has taken the time to attract attention. Don't you get sick of being bombarded by woman's sexuality day and night? From high school on up to mature adulthood woman are constantly flaunting their sexuality and vanity for men AND other woman. It's as bad (or worse) as men ogling them constantly. Commercials, dress, movies, internet, and on and on and on! Grow up! It wouldn't be a problem for you BillyG if you weren't attached to it. The attachment is within 'you'. The problem is 'yours'.
[FairfieldLife] -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument
September 22, 2003 - The problems in Iraq are ahead of us, but we're doing better than people think. And a year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush. There is no doubt that, with the exception of a very small number of people close to a vicious regime, the people of Iraq have been liberated and they understand that they've been liberated. And it is getting easier every day for Iraqis to express that sense of liberation. ~~ Richard Perle (PNAC Neocon) http://www.aei.org/events/contentID.20031003144313426/default.asp -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument SEE MONUMENT: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/WORLD/meast/01/29/iraq.shoe.monument/art.shoe.monument.cnn.jpg http://snipurl.com/b208w BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- For the war-beaten orphans of the northern Iraqi city of Tikrit, this big old shoe fits. A huge sculpture of the footwear hurled at President Bush in December during a trip to Iraq has been unveiled in a ceremony at the Tikrit Orphanage complex. Assisted by children at the home, sculptor Laith al-Amiri erected a brown replica of one of the shoes hurled at Bush and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki by journalist Muntadhir al-Zaidi during a press conference in Baghdad. Al-Zaidi was jailed for his actions, and a trial is pending. But his angry gesture touched a defiant nerve throughout the Arab and Muslim world. He is regarded by many people as a hero. Demonstrators in December took to the streets in the Arab world and called for his release. The shoe monument, made of fiberglass and coated with copper, consists of the shoe and a concrete base. The entire monument is 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) high. The shoe is 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) long and 1.5 meters (4.9 feet) wide. The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure -- unveiled Tuesday -- in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage director. Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were the victims of Bush's war, al-Naseri said. The shoe monument is a gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the journalist. Don't Miss When the next generation sees the shoe monument, they will ask their parents about it, al-Naseri said. Then their parents will start talking about the hero Muntadhir al-Zaidi, who threw his shoe at George W. Bush during his unannounced farewell visit. Saddam Hussein, the former Iraqi leader toppled by the United States in 2003, was from the Tikrit region. Al-Zaidi marked his 30th birthday in jail earlier this month. One of his brothers said he is in good health and is being treated well. Al-Zaidi's employer, TV network al-Baghdadia, keeps a picture of him at the top left side of the screen with a calendar showing the number of days he has spent in detention. The network has been calling for his release. By tradition, throwing a shoe is the most insulting act in the Arab world. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/29/iraq.shoe.monument/index.html?section=cnn_latest http://snipurl.com/b2080
[FairfieldLife] Lincoln and Obama -copied from SOHAMSA list
Lincoln and Obama Link Message List Reply | Forward Message #17676 of 17762 Prev | Next Namaste, I just want to point out a small point I noticed. Take the D-60 (shashtyamsa chart) of Barack Obama: Jupiter in Ar, Saturn Rahu in Ta, Mars in Ge, Sun in Vi, Venus in Li, Ketu in Sc, Mercury and Moon in Cp. Take the rasi chart of Abraham Lincoln: Lagna, Sun and Mercury in Aq, Venus and Jupiter in Pi, Ketu in Ar, Mars and Rahu in Li, Saturn in Sc, Moon in Cp. IF Obama's D-60 chart has arudha lagna in Virgo and we judge the shashtyamsa from Vi to see past life, we see significant similarities between the two charts. *** Lincoln's rasi chart had Sun and Mercury in 1st. Obama's D-60 has Sun in a Mercurian sign in 1st (from arudha lagna). Lincoln's 2nd has a strong (exalted) Venus with a strong Jupiter. Obama's 2nd has a strong (moolatrikona) Venus aspected by Jupiter in a friendly sign. Both have Ketu in a Martian sign in 3rd. Lincoln has 4th lord Venus in a sign of Jupiter. Obama has 4th owned by Jupiter and Venus aspecting 4th lord. Lincoln has 5th owned by Mercury. Obama has Mercury in 5th. Lincoln's 6th lord is in a sign of Saturn aspected by Saturn. Obama's 6th is owned and aspected by Saturn. Lincoln's 8th is aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Obama's 8th has Jupiter aspected by Venus. Lincoln's 9th has Mars (a malefic) and Rahu in Venusian sign. Obama's 9th has Saturn (a malefic) and Rahu in a Venusian sign. Lincoln's 10th has Saturn (a malefic) in a Martian sign. Obama's 10th has Mars (a malefic). Lincoln's 12th has Moon and 12th lord owns and aspects lagna too. Obama's 12th is aspected by Moon and 12th lord is in lagna. These are interesting similarities and just wanted to mention them. *** Scriptures say that the last desire of a person at the moment of death is the basis for the next life. If one has sufficient punya, one may get a chart corresponding to that desire. The last desire should be visible in the punya chakra (death chart). For those who want to study Abraham Lincoln's punya chakra, here is the data: 1865 April 15, 7:22:10 am (LMT), Washington DC. He died under intense medical supervision and the time was recorded by his doctor. The 7th house of desire in this death chart is Sc. That shows the last desires and final thoughts. Take that as lagna to see desire relative to various houses. The key combinations are a very strong Saturn with Rahu in 12th and Mercury, Sun and Ketu aspected by Moon in 6th. Obama has Mercury and Sun together in a sign of Moon and aspected by Ketu and Saturn is opposite them (aspected by Rahu). If you take Aq lagna, these combinations fall in the same houses (6th and 12th) as in Lincoln's punya chakra. In fact, a birthtime of 8 pm for Obama is quite interesting. Events like his marriage, his career, his election etc make perfect sense based on natal dasas as well as TA dasa of relevant annual TP charts. *** Those interested in punya chakra and next birth chart links can get some practical examples of people with past life recollection in Sri KN Rao's nice book on Karma and Rebirth. Best regards, Narasimha -- Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vedic-wisdom Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the context of discussing how he was going to fix my tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic context. I'd bet his kitchen if full of great food! I'd love to know how you got from an oral surgeon and his patient ogling each other as they discuss tooth treatments to thinking the surgeon's kitchen must be full of great food. Not saying it isn't, but it's just a very odd connection to make! Here is a guy who knows how to live. I guess this is it: he knows how to live because he has no inhibitions about flirting with an older woman, and men who know how to live also dig great food... right? Still odd! Good on you too Judy. These are poetic moments to cherish! Dunno about cherishing, but it sure was fun. Only trouble is, now I have to get the damn tooth fixed, and that probably will *not* be fun. I just hope if he gives me laughing gas, I don't embarrass myself... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got major ogled. With my gray streaks in my hair I was a young chicken to these ladies, and when I sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their eyes sparkled as they caught mine. We saw the spark of attraction in each other, knowing the days of flaunting it were over. But for a moment they felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful feelings in life. Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the context of discussing how he was going to fix my tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic context. I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but not so often by younger men, so this encounter was a nice ego boost.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: snip I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got major ogled. With my gray streaks in my hair I was a young chicken to these ladies, and when I sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their eyes sparkled as they caught mine. We saw the spark of attraction in each other, knowing the days of flaunting it were over. But for a moment they felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful feelings in life. Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!) No wonder you don't meditate anymore you probably never had any spiritual experiences, if you had, you'd still be meditating today. There is nothing to compare with the superior bliss of spirit. Your impoverished view of sexuality diminishes your life. You are like a person who only sees food as harmful. I'll just bet you have the kitchen cupboard of a fasting nun. If I had you over for dinner you would spend the whole time in horror at all the bad foods I was eating. You have twisted sensuality to always mean sexuality, No, I think you have, I'm talking about the misuse and exploitation of sexuality out of the context of that for which it was intended. Don't know where you got all of those other ideas, perhaps it is you that can't discern the difference between normal attraction between the sexes and blatant sexuality. Perhaps you don't know the difference.? You sound like Don Quixote fighting made up windmills in your own mind, I was very clear, you're way off point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Taliban Billy Taliban Billy walked down the street Avoiding hot women asking to meet He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in Guilty projection not owning eschewing Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing The women just laughed chiding his fears Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres Proudly they swayed from east to the west An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming It's hard to ignore sexual attraction Until aged libido doesn't get action Don't blame the women for doing their best To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test Covering modestly is much overrated Women you see, have long liberated Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man raunchydog In honor of liberated women: http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv Bread and Roses As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day, A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray, Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses, For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses! As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men, For they are women's children, and we mother them again. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses. As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread. Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew. Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too. As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days, The rising of the women means the rising of the race. No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes, But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the context of discussing how he was going to fix my tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic context. I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but not so often by younger men, so this encounter was a nice ego boost. As is the case with most woman as they get older, nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if you weren't looking for it) though I think it's important to remember that your true self esteem and happiness come from your own sterling character (or conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your physical appearance, after all it is only the most exterior and objective part of your true self. True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and knowing you are following those guidelines successfully. Once you transgress the boundaries of ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: snip Curtis, When you mention food in connection with a spark of attraction between the sexes, I couldn't help but think of the movie Tom Jones and the lusty eating scene. http://tinyurl.com/3432pe Enjoy. Which, apparently, was improvised. Oh, lord, I had *such* a crush on Albert Finney after that movie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: It wouldn't be a problem for you BillyG if you weren't attached to it. The attachment is within 'you'. The problem is 'yours'. And yours my friend, the attraction to the opposite sex is put there by God to procreate the race. If woman are constantly abusing that power by agitating it in man (for personal gain) they are transgressing the laws of nature by using it outside of the context for which it was intended
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but not so often by younger men, so this encounter was a nice ego boost. As is the case with most woman as they get older, nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if you weren't looking for it) though I think it's important to remember that your true self esteem and happiness come from your own sterling character (or conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your physical appearance, after all it is only the most exterior and objective part of your true self. True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and knowing you are following those guidelines successfully. Once you transgress the boundaries of ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately. BillyG, you're going to asphyxiate yourself with your own stuffiness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: snip Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!) How sour. My best years are certainly not behind me. Artists only improve with age. No wonder you don't meditate anymore you probably never had any spiritual experiences, Yeah that must be it. if you had, you'd still be meditating today. It couldn't be any other way! The world really is as YOU are Billy. There is nothing to compare with the superior bliss of spirit. That is what I've been talking about. I guess once a woman wears lipstick all you can do is see red. snip You have twisted sensuality to always mean sexuality, No, I think you have, I'm talking about the misuse and exploitation of sexuality out of the context of that for which it was intended. for which it was intended The phrase of the self-righteously religious. I'm gunna have to pass on that. Don't know where you got all of those other ideas, perhaps it is you that can't discern the difference between normal attraction between the sexes and blatant sexuality. You are right here. I don't make this distinction. You see each person is different and different cultures have different rules for expressing these distinctions. I prefer to see people's intentions in a more positive light. Must be my lack of spiritual experiences that keeps me from being so judgmental. Although I have had enough to be judgmental about your POV, I think you are Crabby Appleton waving your cane at those youn'uns with their city slicker ways and their lack of modesty in their dress. Perhaps you don't know the difference.? You sound like Don Quixote fighting made up windmills in your own mind, I was very clear, you're way off point. Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you consider flaunting it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but not so often by younger men, so this encounter was a nice ego boost. As is the case with most woman as they get older, nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if you weren't looking for it) though I think it's important to remember that your true self esteem and happiness come from your own sterling character (or conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your physical appearance, after all it is only the most exterior and objective part of your true self. True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and knowing you are following those guidelines successfully. Once you transgress the boundaries of ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately. BillyG, you're going to asphyxiate yourself with your own stuffiness. Maybe he's a gasper.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you consider flaunting it. From the security cameras at the Home Depot that Billy visited. I think it was the click- click of her Manolo Blahniks that did him in. http://jezebel.com/assets/resources/2007/10/burka.png
[FairfieldLife] Re: Computer Upgrade? Question for the Geeks
Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: I always have stuff downloading. To me an internet conection means ones should use it up even if just passively lending... In that case, your drive probably contains half a dozen scrotes from Bulgaria arguing over who has the right to steal/screw up your system. We're not living in the '80s any more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I guess this is it: he knows how to live because he has no inhibitions about flirting with an older woman, and men who know how to live also dig great food... right? Still odd! Really? His senses are awake and he is looking for morsels of delight everywhere. I do associate a person's approach to food with their commitment to living in their senses. Food is a sensual choice we make a few times a day. It is very revealing. Same with the music a person chooses or what hangs on their walls. And despite the over the top comedy of Raunchy's food flirting flick, I learn a lot about how a woman will be intimately by watching her eat. Food is life to me. It needs to be savored not rushed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the context of discussing how he was going to fix my tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic context. I'd bet his kitchen if full of great food! I'd love to know how you got from an oral surgeon and his patient ogling each other as they discuss tooth treatments to thinking the surgeon's kitchen must be full of great food. Not saying it isn't, but it's just a very odd connection to make! Here is a guy who knows how to live. I guess this is it: he knows how to live because he has no inhibitions about flirting with an older woman, and men who know how to live also dig great food... right? Still odd! Good on you too Judy. These are poetic moments to cherish! Dunno about cherishing, but it sure was fun. Only trouble is, now I have to get the damn tooth fixed, and that probably will *not* be fun. I just hope if he gives me laughing gas, I don't embarrass myself... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got major ogled. With my gray streaks in my hair I was a young chicken to these ladies, and when I sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their eyes sparkled as they caught mine. We saw the spark of attraction in each other, knowing the days of flaunting it were over. But for a moment they felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful feelings in life. Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the context of discussing how he was going to fix my tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic context. I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but not so often by younger men, so this encounter was a nice ego boost.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but not so often by younger men, so this encounter was a nice ego boost. As is the case with most woman as they get older, nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if you weren't looking for it) though I think it's important to remember that your true self esteem and happiness come from your own sterling character (or conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your physical appearance, after all it is only the most exterior and objective part of your true self. True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and knowing you are following those guidelines successfully. Once you transgress the boundaries of ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately. BillyG, you're going to asphyxiate yourself with your own stuffiness. I don't think so Judy, remember MMY said, structure upholds freedom. Scripture gives us structure and thereby freedom. I'm sorry if you don't embrace the ideal beauty that can come from true love, where one soul in is love with the other soul (not their body). Emmanuel Swedenborg said that there is love for the sex and love for ONE of the sex, the ideal love is love for ONE of the sex. Love for sex in general is a common love and essentially lust.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you consider flaunting it. Have you been to the mall lately?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Taliban Billy You have outdone yourself Raunchy! Taliban Billy walked down the street Avoiding hot women asking to meet He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in Guilty projection not owning eschewing Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing The women just laughed chiding his fears Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres Proudly they swayed from east to the west An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming It's hard to ignore sexual attraction Until aged libido doesn't get action Don't blame the women for doing their best To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test Covering modestly is much overrated Women you see, have long liberated Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man raunchydog In honor of liberated women: http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv Bread and Roses As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day, A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray, Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses, For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses! As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men, For they are women's children, and we mother them again. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses. As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread. Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew. Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too. As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days, The rising of the women means the rising of the race. No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes, But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Maybe he's a gasper. You little pest! Scram..
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Taliban Billy You have outdone yourself Raunchy! Thanks. I can assure you, I had more fun getting into Billy's head than he will every have getting into anyone's pants.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you consider flaunting it. Have you been to the mall lately? Guess it sucks to be you. Good luck with your choice of filters. But I do want to mention that within your virtue lies deceit: Your snip: Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!) You snipped this quote dishonestly to manufacture your point. Here is what I said: But for a moment they felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful feelings in life. Changing my one of the to the was a dirty trick Billy. I call you on your dishonest intentions in misrepresenting my point. Like so many religo-maniacs your relationship with the truth is a self-serving one. I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got major ogled. With my gray streaks in my hair I was a young chicken to these ladies, and when I sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their eyes sparkled as they caught mine. We saw the spark of attraction in each other, knowing the days of flaunting it were over. But for a moment they felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful feelings in life. Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Well, that made it an absolute must see for me, so I downloaded it and watched it. And I must say that in general the reviewers were right, but that it had redeeming qualities. One of them was Miro Sorvino, as an Indiana Jones-like archeologist, walking about in her Manolo Blahniks. Yes, they made her already-attractive legs look great. But yes, they probably were worse as a form of torture than tossing Indy into a vat full of snakes. :-) I'm with both Curtis and you on the subject of women playing dress-up. I truly appreciate the lengths they go to to look attractive, and often succeed. At the same time, I thought that Mira Sorvino looked just as hot in her archeology togs. I'm sure you look fetching in sweats, with or without the Manolos. Barry, I've read that shoes are so pointed now, and so small, that women are actually having surgery to remove their little toe so they can fit. This is the stuff of horror movies. And what kind of a surgeon would do that anyway? We have a seriously sick culture. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Taliban Billy You have outdone yourself Raunchy! Thanks. I can assure you, I had more fun getting into Billy's head than he will every have getting into anyone's pants. Ha, ha, ha.actually the Taliban is one extreme and Western culture is the other!
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Taliban Billy You have outdone yourself Raunchy! Speaking as someone who has not always appreciated your poetry, I agree. Well done. Taliban Billy walked down the street Avoiding hot women asking to meet He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in Guilty projection not owning eschewing Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing The women just laughed chiding his fears Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres Proudly they swayed from east to the west An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming It's hard to ignore sexual attraction Until aged libido doesn't get action Don't blame the women for doing their best To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test Covering modestly is much overrated Women you see, have long liberated Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man raunchydog In honor of liberated women: http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv Bread and Roses As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day, A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray, Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses, For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses! As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men, For they are women's children, and we mother them again. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses. As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread. Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew. Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too. As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days, The rising of the women means the rising of the race. No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes, But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.
Re: [FairfieldLife] -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument
On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:32 AM, do.rflex wrote: The shoe monument, made of fiberglass and coated with copper, consists of the shoe and a concrete base. The entire monument is 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) high. The shoe is 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) long and 1.5 meters (4.9 feet) wide. The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure -- unveiled Tuesday -- in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage director. Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were the victims of Bush's war, al-Naseri said. The shoe monument is a gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the journalist. If the shoe fits... How entirely appropriate. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: Your snip: Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!) You snipped this quote dishonestly to manufacture your point. Here is what I said: But for a moment they felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful feelings in life. Changing my one of the to the was a dirty trick Billy. I call you on your dishonest intentions in misrepresenting my point. Like so many religo-maniacs your relationship with the truth is a self-serving one. UnintentionallyI guess there's still hope for you afterall! :-) Though you still sound like a 'beggar on the street of time'. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: There is nothing to compare with the superior bliss of spirit. Billy, how long has it been? Really, years or decades now? Think maybe it's time to break the dry spell? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Control
TurquoiseB wrote: Control... Control in martial arts is managing internal energies in adversity. According to Sensei Randall Bassett, Self Defense, in its purest form, largely consists of obtaining an insight into the limitations of force as a way of resolving human conflict: The path to self-power is more than a quest for bodily survival; it is the quest for identity and authentic free will. - Randall Bassett What makes this book unique and kept it on my shelf for more than 20 years was the also eclectic discussion on what amounts to self control tactics and the acquisition of a different concept of self defense: defense begins in the mind... - H. Asbury Amazon Review: 'Zen Karate' by Randall Bassett Warner Books, 1975 http://tinyurl.com/bgdhbw It is an almost innate propensity of the human mind to equate smallness with insignificance. This propensity induces us to believe that nothing of real value may be gained from learning to work with spans of attention whose duration tends to be quite small. Thus without realizing it, we come to overlook one of the most basic principles, namely, that the capacity to exert absolute attention at critical moments can succeed in turning even the span of a fraction of a second into an event of immense personal significance. Read more: Subject: TM and Self Defense Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: November 11, 2000 http://tinyurl.com/atvcg2
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Barry, I've read that shoes are so pointed now, and so small, that women are actually having surgery to remove their little toe so they can fit. This is the stuff of horror movies. And what kind of a surgeon would do that anyway? We have a seriously sick culture. Sal Need I say more!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Computer Upgrade? Question for the Geeks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: snip This computer doesn't multi-task well. Apps often bog each other down, such that everything runs slowly. MS Outlook is one of the biggest culprits. It takes an unbelievably long time to check email, it's hard to use Outlook while it's being checked, and other applications are compromised during the process. Nothing geekish to contribute, but I've read a couple of ecstatic reviews of GMail's new offline feature, e.g.: Slate's Farhad Manjoo, How GMail Destroyed Outlook: http://www.slate.com/id/2210090/ James Fallows's blog (not really a review, but an expression of excitement at the prospect): http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/big_news_on_the_p ersonal_tech.php http://tinyurl.com/detbyw A followup post quoting an email from someone who just started using it: http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/offline_gmail_ins tant_user_rep.php http://tinyurl.com/awywz7 FWIW, I use Eudora, and gobs of archived mail doesn't seem to slow it down as long as it's stored in folders rather than the Inbox or Outbox. I don't put anywhere near the demands on my machine that you do on yours, but I've seen that complaint about Outlook from all kinds of users. (But if you don't travel enough to require a good Web email account, I can't quite figure out what the advantage is of offline GMail over a speedy desktop email client like Eudora.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Really? His senses are awake and he is looking for morsels of delight everywhere. I do associate a person's approach to food with their commitment to living in their senses. Food is a sensual choice we make a few times a day. It is very revealing. Same with the music a person chooses or what hangs on their walls. Great topic for discussion, Curtis. And despite the over the top comedy of Raunchy's food flirting flick, I learn a lot about how a woman will be intimately by watching her eat. Tell us more. Food is life to me. It needs to be savored not rushed. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Hey my wife is asking me what is that they say about women again, they taste like fish or chicken? Or is it fish or beef? She wants to know. I said it depends on time of month with her tasing like burger wrapped in newspaper once a month for awhile which I like just fine. Though it's sloppy. I wouldn't mind the fish and chips effect either if such were the case, but I think I got me some white meat chicken. But really how does that go again?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Severe Punishment. [Only tangentially related to this thread.] http://tinyurl.com/beh26z
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Curtis, When you mention food in connection with a spark of attraction between the sexes, I couldn't help but think of the movie Tom Jones and the lusty eating scene. http://tinyurl.com/3432pe Enjoy. -When you mention eating in the movies I can't help but flash on the bar scene in Twin Peaks - Fire Walk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:32 AM, do.rflex wrote: The shoe monument, made of fiberglass and coated with copper, consists of the shoe and a concrete base. The entire monument is 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) high. The shoe is 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) long and 1.5 meters (4.9 feet) wide. The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure -- unveiled Tuesday -- in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage director. Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were the victims of Bush's war, al-Naseri said. The shoe monument is a gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the journalist. If the shoe fits... How entirely appropriate. Sal This is a farewell kiss from the Iraqi people, you dog, yelled al-Zaidi in Arabic as he threw his first shoe towards the U.S. president. --- This is for the widows and orphans and all those killed in Iraq, he shouted as he threw his second shoe. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7782422.stm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment
Thanks for your alternating comments. I read them. Not sure what to say except, Oh Yeah, you live in Scotland, truely a mystical place I wish to check out someday since I have a good amount of Scottish in me. My Grandfather was in Scottish Military horseback and kilts and all. - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Thanks for your alternating comments. I read them. Not sure what to say except, Oh Yeah, you live in Scotland, truely a mystical place I wish to check out someday since I have a good amount of Scottish in me. My Grandfather was in Scottish Military horseback and kilts and all. On horseback in kilts? Ouch!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So what I guess I'm asking is whether UC is going to fuck with your ability to go to Home Depot. I mean, here's you'll be, walking along in UC, and some hottie wearing a short skirt and Manolo Blahniks and too much makeup comes click-clicking down the aisle towards you. And you'll look at her, and using the everyday perception of UC, you'll see her at *yourself*, and both of you as God. And then you'll realize that what you're seeing this in is a [said with disgust] *body*. With cooties. Isn't this going to fuck up your ability to be so moralistic and look down on her as lesser than yourself? That could be traumatic. To preserve your equanimity, I recommend that you avoid attaining enlightenment at all costs. Or at least avoid going to Home Depot. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Really? His senses are awake and he is looking for morsels of delight everywhere. I do associate a person's approach to food with their commitment to living in their senses. Food is a sensual choice we make a few times a day. It is very revealing. Same with the music a person chooses or what hangs on their walls. Great topic for discussion, Curtis. And despite the over the top comedy of Raunchy's food flirting flick, I learn a lot about how a woman will be intimately by watching her eat. Tell us more. I'm not Curtis, but I completely agree with his comment above. I'm a slow eater. I like to linger over my food and wine, and savor it. Thus, on dates, I often notice that my companion has finished her meal while I'm only halfway through with mine. When this happens, experience has shown me that that is what she'll be like in bed, too. Do you remember the sex scene in Network, the one in which Faye Dunaway rushes through it to her own orgasm and then, ignoring the guy and the fact that he's barely started, starts talking incessantly about her desire to write a lesbian TV soap opera? Need I say more? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: Thanks for your alternating comments. I read them. Not sure what to say except, Oh Yeah, you live in Scotland, truely a mystical place I wish to check out someday since I have a good amount of Scottish in me. My Grandfather was in Scottish Military horseback and kilts and all. On horseback in kilts? Ouch! WHAT'S UNDER YOUR KILT? * A wee set of pipes. * On a good day, lipstick. * How warm are your hands? * An airport...2 hangers and a fighter [http://z.hubpages.com/u/4521_f260.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Curtis, I'm going to go against type here. My type is that, herein at FFL, I'm probably thought to be in Billy's camp in at least several minds here. So, in keeping with my New Year's resolution to be sweeter, kinder and more necessary, I'll plead for Billy, plead for me, plead for you. Billy's, er ahem, whacking at a block of stone -- perhaps he sees himself as Michelangelo -- as he tries to, er ahem, unveil a hidden pure virgin in the granite. Sounds like naughty fun! Billy, how do you see the final statue? Clothed I would assume. Sorrowful countenance like Mary's in the Pieta? Or, perhaps she's ecstatically entranced with divine shakti, eyes heavenward with arms stretched longingly to Big Daddy? I'm serious! Can you tell us? I'm trying to see the whole Billy -- not just his snake trunk or tree legs or fan ears or wall sides or rope tail. Billy seems to have an ideal woman in mind -- a person who's personality would be, to him, close to that which he projects to dwell inside, say, the Mother Divine ladies. So far, he's allowed to do this in my book. No problem with having an ideal that's cobbled by imagination from a cherry picking of a data set that's been artificially amassed. Hell, I do that 108 times a day! I'm a data gobbling fool! He may be merely assembling the good stuff and leaving out all the bad stuff that also comes with your standard issue yinyangy woman. All the bad stuff, Billy sees in clicker-chicks in Home Depot, and the good stuff is assumed to be only available to those women who have purified themselves of clickingness with the fires of knowledge yada yada. Never met a one-sided woman yet, but Billy's allowed to think this way if you ask me. It's his freakin' nervous system, ya know? Who doesn't have their parts that are but barely kept on leashes and are tugging at our souls constantly to piss on something? Inner-dogs R Us. And as Byron Katie et al would remind us: turn it around. Why is there Billy-angst in our minds when all of infinity's cornucopia calls to us? Can we own where our attentions reside? I mean, if Billy's whips can sting us into having a parochial gaze and can get us to color his presentation with a dark veneer -- that intent on our part is our real problem, eh? Do we delude ourselves? Is Billy a straw dog we happily have attracted to FFL just so we have a target for our, what?, hippy-moral-freedom-guns to aim at? And, I have no problem with Billy going around spewing this POV, because, hey, really now, hasn't the world proved to be overwhelmingly powerful in honing all of us with an exacting precision? Haven't all of us had huge chunks of belief, dogma, and negativities of every kind lopped off of us by goodly smacks and whacks to the max? Do you think Billy's getting off the hook and that we have to become agencies of purity who must teach him? Billy's life cannot have been immune to yagya lessons, and if he's not yet been relieved of his BURDEN of being so easily triggered by public sensuality being displayed in life -- still I am CERTAIN that he's been processed as thoroughly as I have by life's cognitive chiselers out there. Whatever Billy may lack in our estimations might be astoundingly balanced by giant steps he's taken in other departments of his psyche. We know not what he's felt with each step in his moccasins. For starters, we know not who primed his pump when he was in diapers, eh? I've been all that Billy's been, and I would not easily volunteer to be deconstructed by God to compare my life to Billy's. I think the world will take care of Billy. Billy's no Bush with the whole of America's power-to-harm to use. His missiles have almost no range or power, and the person next to him is about all he can hope to hit. His podium here is but one of 1200 podiums from which dozens are shouting to the crowd herein. His voice cannot garner much attention from this group of arid minds. Or does he? To the extent he reaches us, pulls some chain in us, he helps reveal our own attachments, no? And that's a potent set of white teeth Billy's got, eh? Dead dog nips -- not your worst way to start a day. Maybe Billy deserves a doggy treat. If Billy is espousing a Hindu POV and is comfortable with the idea that Guru Dev wanted all the ladies to be seated in one part of his audience to keep them separate from the guys so that they would, you know, not be wriggling in their seats every now and then and, you know, slightly snuggling into their dudes by mistake, and, you know, forcing these good hearted knights of enlightenment into attending to the carnality-incarnate package of delights throbbing next door to them instead of Guru Dev, then that's Billy's right! If there's anything wrong with it, his denial processes can only hold the sculptor's truth at bay for, what?, a mere lifetime? Sooner or later, Billy'll be honed if honing is deserved, but let us all hope that our lack of compassion for Billy's addictions
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I'm a slow eater. I like to linger over my food and wine, and savor it. Thus, on dates, I often notice that my companion has finished her meal while I'm only halfway through with mine. When this happens, experience has shown me that that is what she'll be like in bed, too. What if she wants a second helping? Or waits politely until you've finished and then asks for a fancy dessert, coffee, and brandy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So you start Sal. What are your signals about a person's compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them, food related or otherwise. Small things, usually. What they're interested in. Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated in about a thousand different ways. Actually, those aren't such small things, are they? I guess what I mean is how they relate to me in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa. Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm not sure how or how much. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So you start Sal. What are your signals about a person's compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them, food related or otherwise. Small things, usually. What they're interested in. Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated in about a thousand different ways. Actually, those aren't such small things, are they? I guess what I mean is how they relate to me in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa. Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm not sure how or how much. Oh, yeah, and sense of humor. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So you start Sal. What are your signals about a person's compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them, food related or otherwise. Small things, usually. What they're interested in. Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated in about a thousand different ways. Actually, those aren't such small things, are they? I guess what I mean is how they relate to me in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa. Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm not sure how or how much. Sal It boils down to compatibility for me too. There are signs. I'm a fan of the waiter test. She how she deals with the waiter on your first dates. Obviously if she gets angry at a person in a position of service that is a bad sign. It is also revealing if she can ask them for what she wants and get them to get it in a pleasant manor. I have to be with a person who treats people kindly, but can be assertive and expressive enough to get their needs met. I don't want to hear after the meal that she hated it but couldn't ask for more whatever that she needed to enjoy her meal. I pretty much know if I don't see any books at her place that this is not going to be a match. She doesn't have to be into the same music I am, but it is an alert if she has no musical opinions or preferences. And the food thing...my first dates were usually to a Vietnamese dive that serves amazing food. They know how to singe the pork to caramelize it with just a touch of blacked bitter spots without drying out the center. (They do the same with Tofu for vegetarian dates.) It takes a cook who cares enough to get it right. I take a lettuce leaf and put in a little vermicelli noodles, a bit of pork, a spoon of fish sauce based dipping sauce, a leaf or two of mint, wrap it up and hand it across the table. The woman I've been with the last few years closed her eyes and sunk all the way into one of the best flavor balances found in cooking. When her eyes opened again I knew she got it! It wasn't that we shared the same food tastes, it was how she was able to embrace a new taste with complete abandon! Because I am ravenously omnivorous, I can't expect my mate to match my diverse tastes in food. But I do need a person who knows that familiarity is at the heart of our taste preferences. And it takes very little exposure to make a foreign dishes become your own comfort food in my experience. They don't need to like everything I like, but I need someone adventurous enough with food that they will try something new. This way of approaching food often maps across to other choices in a person's life... And now the deal killer list. She can't be the kind of person who will escalate unpleasantness to get what she wants when she knows it is not what I choose. If she attempts to bully me into doing something I don't want to do, it is over. I don't treat people in my life that way and it is non-negotiable. And the real sweethearts never try because they care what I want. And I do the same for them. It sounds obvious but if you have ever been in a relationship with a person who violates this principle, you will understand. I hope others weigh in on this topic. Nice call Sal.
[FairfieldLife] new tract from Jack Chick: Papa
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Curtis, I'm going to go against type here. My type is that, herein at FFL, I'm probably thought to be in Billy's camp in at least several minds here. So, in keeping with my New Year's resolution to be sweeter, kinder and more necessary, I'll plead for Billy, plead for me, plead for you. Billy's, er ahem, whacking at a block of stone -- perhaps he sees himself as Michelangelo -- as he tries to, er ahem, unveil a hidden pure virgin in the granite. Sounds like naughty fun! Billy, how do you see the final statue? Clothed I would assume. Sorrowful countenance like Mary's in the Pieta? Or, perhaps she's ecstatically entranced with divine shakti, eyes heavenward with arms stretched longingly to Big Daddy? I'm serious! Can you tell us? Yes, the body would be entirely secondary to the clothing of the soul! Yes? I'm trying to see the whole Billy -- not just his snake trunk or tree legs or fan ears or wall sides or rope tail. Billy seems to have an ideal woman in mind -- a person who's personality would be, to him, close to that which he projects to dwell inside, say, the Mother Divine ladies. So far, he's allowed to do this in my book. No problem with having an ideal that's cobbled by imagination from a cherry picking of a data set that's been artificially amassed. The ideal would be that which is Gods will, his plan, his show, his family, his world and we as his servants. Hell, I do that 108 times a day! I'm a data gobbling fool! He may be merely assembling the good stuff and leaving out all the bad stuff that also comes with your standard issue yinyangy woman. All the bad stuff, Billy sees in clicker-chicks in Home Depot, and the good stuff is assumed to be only available to those women who have purified themselves of clickingness with the fires of knowledge yada yada. True marital love is so rare that its character is not known, and scarcely that it exists... Emanuel Swedenborg Never met a one-sided woman yet, but Billy's allowed to think this way if you ask me. It's his freakin' nervous system, ya know? Who doesn't have their parts that are but barely kept on leashes and are tugging at our souls constantly to piss on something? Inner-dogs R Us. Nicely and poetically (albeit blunt) put, it is the awareness of henest acknowledgment of this eternal beatnik within that allows us to confront it once and for all, and defeat it through the spiritual disciplines, a veritable Armageddon. And as Byron Katie et al would remind us: turn it around. Why is there Billy-angst in our minds when all of infinity's cornucopia calls to us? Can we own where our attentions reside? I mean, if Billy's whips can sting us into having a parochial gaze and can get us to color his presentation with a dark veneer -- that intent on our part is our real problem, eh? Do we delude ourselves? Is Billy a straw dog we happily have attracted to FFL just so we have a target for our, what?, hippy-moral-freedom-guns to aim at? Whoa...I think you may have hit the nail on the head! Is sexual 'freedom' their cherished 'precious'? And, I have no problem with Billy going around spewing this POV, because, hey, really now, hasn't the world proved to be overwhelmingly powerful in honing all of us with an exacting precision? Haven't all of us had huge chunks of belief, dogma, and negativities of every kind lopped off of us by goodly smacks and whacks to the max? Do you think Billy's getting off the hook and that we have to become agencies of purity who must teach him? Yes, he must be chastened, as he threatens to expose our own hidden repressed, *hidden Billy*. Billy's life cannot have been immune to yagya lessons, and if he's not yet been relieved of his BURDEN of being so easily triggered by public sensuality being displayed in life -- still I am CERTAIN that he's been processed as thoroughly as I have by life's cognitive chiselers out there. Whatever Billy may lack in our estimations might be astoundingly balanced by giant steps he's taken in other departments of his psyche. We know not what he's felt with each step in his moccasins. For starters, we know not who primed his pump when he was in diapers, eh? Nor have most of us been relieved by our burden of sexual proclivity, only the man (using Turq's term) in UC relieved of even the incentive of desire. I've been all that Billy's been, and I would not easily volunteer to be deconstructed by God to compare my life to Billy's. I think the world will take care of Billy. Billy's no Bush with the whole of America's power-to-harm to use. His missiles have almost no range or power, and the person next to him is about all he can hope to hit. His podium here is but one of 1200 podiums from which dozens are shouting to the crowd herein. His voice cannot garner much attention from this group of arid minds.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: It boils down to compatibility for me too. There are signs. I'm a fan of the waiter test. See how she deals with the waiter on your first dates. Obviously if she gets angry at a person in a position of service that is a bad sign. Absolutely. One of the big reveals, and where people of either sex often lose my interest, is how they treat people in the service professions. If they don't consider these people their equals, they don't consider me their equal. I pretty much know if I don't see any books at her place that this is not going to be a match. She doesn't have to be into the same music I am, but it is an alert if she has no musical opinions or preferences. Another big reveal is when she comes over to your place for the first time. Does she *look* at the books on the bookcases, or browse through your CDs and movies? If not, it's not going to last, because either she is not interested in those things, or she's not interested in you. And now the deal killer list. My kinda thread. :-) She can't be the kind of person who will escalate unpleasantness to get what she wants when she knows it is not what I choose. Absolutely. But I would have left off the part after unpleasantness. While this is less true in cyberspace because of the flaming phenom- enon, if a person feels the need to escalate issues with other people into shouting matches or power battles in real life, she's outa there. If she attempts to bully me into doing something I don't want to do, it is over. I extend this to trying to bully her way into my attention. One of my big tests of whether the relationship is going to go anywhere is to take the woman on a Road Trip with me. Many women are probably aware that this is a kind of test for me, and are thinking that it has to do with whether she'll share my bed when we get to the destination. It's not. The test is whether she feels the need to fill every moment of the auto journey with words. If she is unable to STFU and just listen to music for long periods of the drive, or just groove on the silence, we're not going to get along long-term. I don't treat people in my life that way and it is non-negotiable. Again, agreed. Petty tyrants need not apply, and it does NOT have to do with them only trying to bully me. It's whether they bully *anyone*. Especially the waiter. :-) More tests: * Movies -- I invite her over, fix her a good meal, and show her one of my favorite movies of all time, one that she's not likely to have heard of before. Something like Don Juan de Marco, which you either get or you don't. If she doesn't -- warning flag goes up. And even better test for me, if the woman has long-term potential, is to break her Firefly and Serenity cherry. Most people haven't heard of this TV series and movie, so it's an interesting test to see how they react. If she can't get Captain Tight Pants and his crew of misfits, she's never going to get me. * Mix CDs -- I admit it. I am the most guy of guys in this respect. Music, and especially my relationship with great songwriters and their lyrics, is a Big One for me. She need not like what I like, but if she can't see what *I* like in it, that's another warning flag. * Manners -- Especially in regard to phone sex. By that I mean, when we're out together in the early days of dating, does she take incoming phone calls at the dinner table? Unless she's a surgeon or it's the baby- sitter calling about her seriously ill child, taking five phone calls before dinner is over in an attempt to show me how popular she is is probably going to result in me allowing her to be popular with the callers, not me. * Flirting -- OK, this is a tough one to admit. But I'm enough of a rehabilitated lecher to know that spending half of one's date checkin' out or flirting with other women is rude. I notice when it's done to me. * Guinneviere Syndrome -- A subset of the Flirting cate- gory above. If the woman attempts to arouse my interest by flirting with other guys on *our* date, or worse, tries to get me to compete with them for her favors, I'm likely to give her cab fare and leave her there and go home alone. I've done exactly that more than once. I *understand* the sometimes primal need to know that your man cares about you enough to fight for you, but I really prefer women who wait for that to be proved in a mugging, not at every cocktail party. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So you start Sal. What are your signals about a person's compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them, food related or otherwise. Small things, usually. What they're interested in. Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated in about a thousand different ways. Actually, those aren't such small things, are they? I guess what I mean is how they relate to me in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa. Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm not sure how or how much. Oh, yeah, and sense of humor. In order of importance for me: 1. Sense of humor 2. Sense of humor 3. Sense of humor 4. Intelligence 5. Is interactive* in conversation 6. Interested in current affairs 7. Not a bigot 8. Classical music lover** 9. Decent hygiene 10. Not preoccupied with money 11. Not such a highbrow he can't appreciate high-quality lowbrow stuff * Interested in and responsive to what I say, not just what he has to say. **Any other kind of favorite music OK as long as he loves classical. Adoration of Bach a big plus. Needs to be moderately savvy about performance. Taste in food is near the bottom of my list. Food fanaticism of whatever kind is a turnoff. Broad tastes are nice, but not a requirement.
[FairfieldLife] Social Security - A Ponzi Scheme?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu tradition re the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali. All the elements that make up that image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy of Mother nature. I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. Mother Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only Spirit is eternal, never changing and secure. Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of all that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form. I don't remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be interested in your sense and feelings re that form. In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to stay away from my fearful world of changefullness, I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of Maya (nature). I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand and appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living to one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the subject. The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Thanks. Marek
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[FairfieldLife] Lie To Me
My brother turned me on to a new TV series in the US, thinking I might like it. He's knows me well. He described it as a series starring Tim Roth about a group of people who specialize in how to tell when a human being is lying. (According to a statistic in the first episode, the average human being tells three lies every ten minutes.) He had me at Tim Roth. I think he's been marvelous in almost everything he's been in, and was more than willing to give him a shot at doing the same thing in a weekly TV series. Good call. It's actually pretty interesting IMO. There is no oogabooga or X-Files psychic weirdness about how they tell that people are lying; it's all about the physical tells that people display when they lie. The eyes don't crinkle up in a fake smile, but they do in a real one. Does the person look away from you when you ask them something, as if they were having to think about it, or do they continue to look you straight in the eye, as if they've already prepared a script for the answer? When they tell a story that involves a sequence of actions, can they relate the same sequence of actions in reverse? (Liars rehearse the script in order in their heads, and tend not to be able to relate it backwards.) As expected, Tim Roth is excellent. So is Kelli Williams, as his associate and sidekick in the consulting firm. She's a junk food junkie who is almost as good at telling when other people are lying as he is, but who can't tell when her own husband is lying to her. Another interesting character is the newbie in the firm, a woman recruited from the ranks of airport security guards because she had a 95% rate of being right in challenging suspicious flyers. And the fourth wheel in the firm and in the cast is an employee who has an affliction that compels him to always tell the truth. He presents an interesting contrast to these people who make their living telling when others are lying, but who lie all the time themselves. Fascinating series IMO. Teaches me a lot about the ways that I determine whether someone is lying to me, but never knew consciously. Also fascinating because it delves into the *reasons* why people lie, which are not always a Bad Thing. All in all, it's a weekly reminder that sometimes we're probably better off not knowing when those around us are lying to us. Three lies every ten minutes, and all that...
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Let's see if I have this right. You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one? And happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into books and then translated into a language you could understand? That you have the ability to understand this being's will? The creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will? Your human mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God? And that your birth language just happens to be able to convey through translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God? Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand his will but to carry it out in this world? And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is IMHO, your HUMBLE opinion? I don't think you understand what the term humble means. The claim that you know what living according to God's will means or are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility. For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in the following phrase: We don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu tradition re the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali. All the elements that make up that image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy of Mother nature. I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. Mother Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only Spirit is eternal, never changing and secure. Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of all that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form. I don't remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be interested in your sense and feelings re that form. In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to stay away from my fearful world of changefullness, I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of Maya (nature). I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand and appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living to one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the subject. The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Thanks. Marek
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Billy Taliban has a ring to it. You should collect all of the poems you've written on this forum and publish it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Taliban Billy You have outdone yourself Raunchy! Taliban Billy walked down the street Avoiding hot women asking to meet He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in Guilty projection not owning eschewing Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing The women just laughed chiding his fears Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres Proudly they swayed from east to the west An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming It's hard to ignore sexual attraction Until aged libido doesn't get action Don't blame the women for doing their best To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test Covering modestly is much overrated Women you see, have long liberated Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man raunchydog In honor of liberated women: http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv Bread and Roses As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day, A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray, Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses, For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses! As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men, For they are women's children, and we mother them again. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses. As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread. Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew. Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too. As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days, The rising of the women means the rising of the race. No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes, But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses. Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes; Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Let's see if I have this right. You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one? And happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into books and then translated into a language you could understand? That you have the ability to understand this being's will? The creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will? Your human mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God? And that your birth language just happens to be able to convey through translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God? Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand his will but to carry it out in this world? And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is IMHO, your HUMBLE opinion? I don't think you understand what the term humble means. The claim that you know what living according to God's will means or are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility. For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in the following phrase: We don't know. I think Edg put it best if he doesn't mind me quoting him here: And Billy's being outside us should be seen as a clanging a gong that peals the news that he's also found inside us, or we would never have IDENTIFIED HIM OUT THEREflown into him, labeled him, targeted him. If there's a problem with Billy outside, how much more of a problem must we have with our inner Billy? Nicely put Edg/Duveyoung!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lie To Me
TurquoiseB wrote: My brother turned me on to a new TV series in the US, thinking I might like it. He's knows me well. He described it as a series starring Tim Roth about a group of people who specialize in how to tell when a human being is lying. (According to a statistic in the first episode, the average human being tells three lies every ten minutes.) He had me at Tim Roth. I think he's been marvelous in almost everything he's been in, and was more than willing to give him a shot at doing the same thing in a weekly TV series. Good call. It's actually pretty interesting IMO. There is no oogabooga or X-Files psychic weirdness about how they tell that people are lying; it's all about the physical tells that people display when they lie. The eyes don't crinkle up in a fake smile, but they do in a real one. Does the person look away from you when you ask them something, as if they were having to think about it, or do they continue to look you straight in the eye, as if they've already prepared a script for the answer? When they tell a story that involves a sequence of actions, can they relate the same sequence of actions in reverse? (Liars rehearse the script in order in their heads, and tend not to be able to relate it backwards.) As expected, Tim Roth is excellent. So is Kelli Williams, as his associate and sidekick in the consulting firm. She's a junk food junkie who is almost as good at telling when other people are lying as he is, but who can't tell when her own husband is lying to her. Another interesting character is the newbie in the firm, a woman recruited from the ranks of airport security guards because she had a 95% rate of being right in challenging suspicious flyers. And the fourth wheel in the firm and in the cast is an employee who has an affliction that compels him to always tell the truth. He presents an interesting contrast to these people who make their living telling when others are lying, but who lie all the time themselves. Fascinating series IMO. Teaches me a lot about the ways that I determine whether someone is lying to me, but never knew consciously. Also fascinating because it delves into the *reasons* why people lie, which are not always a Bad Thing. All in all, it's a weekly reminder that sometimes we're probably better off not knowing when those around us are lying to us. Three lies every ten minutes, and all that... I turned it off after about 20 minutes. Too formulaic. It did not fair well with other viewers either. And I don't like the promotion of police state tactics. Now that BushCo is gone we need to move away from that mindset.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:21 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: It boils down to compatibility for me too. There are signs. I'm a fan of the waiter test. She how she deals with the waiter on your first dates. Obviously if she gets angry at a person in a position of service that is a bad sign. It is also revealing if she can ask them for what she wants and get them to get it in a pleasant manor. I have to be with a person who treats people kindly, but can be assertive and expressive enough to get their needs met. I don't want to hear after the meal that she hated it but couldn't ask for more whatever that she needed to enjoy her meal. I pretty much know if I don't see any books at her place that this is not going to be a match. She doesn't have to be into the same music I am, but it is an alert if she has no musical opinions or preferences. And the food thing...my first dates were usually to a Vietnamese dive that serves amazing food. They know how to singe the pork to caramelize it with just a touch of blacked bitter spots without drying out the center. (They do the same with Tofu for vegetarian dates.) It takes a cook who cares enough to get it right. I take a lettuce leaf and put in a little vermicelli noodles, a bit of pork, a spoon of fish sauce based dipping sauce, a leaf or two of mint, wrap it up and hand it across the table. The woman I've been with the last few years closed her eyes and sunk all the way into one of the best flavor balances found in cooking. When her eyes opened again I knew she got it! It wasn't that we shared the same food tastes, it was how she was able to embrace a new taste with complete abandon! Because I am ravenously omnivorous, I can't expect my mate to match my diverse tastes in food. But I do need a person who knows that familiarity is at the heart of our taste preferences. And it takes very little exposure to make a foreign dishes become your own comfort food in my experience. They don't need to like everything I like, but I need someone adventurous enough with food that they will try something new. This way of approaching food often maps across to other choices in a person's life... And now the deal killer list. She can't be the kind of person who will escalate unpleasantness to get what she wants when she knows it is not what I choose. If she attempts to bully me into doing something I don't want to do, it is over. I don't treat people in my life that way and it is non-negotiable. And the real sweethearts never try because they care what I want. And I do the same for them. It sounds obvious but if you have ever been in a relationship with a person who violates this principle, you will understand. I hope others weigh in on this topic. Nice call Sal. I agree with pretty much all of that. I would also add feeling like the person is (or could be) your best friend is really nice. A deal-breaker would be either the grudge-holder (sort of what you've said above) or the guy looking around the room at every other woman. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: I think Edg put it best if he doesn't mind me quoting him here: And Billy's being outside us should be seen as a clanging a gong that peals the news that he's also found inside us, or we would never have IDENTIFIED HIM OUT THEREflown into him, labeled him, targeted him. If there's a problem with Billy outside, how much more of a problem must we have with our inner Billy? Nicely put Edg/Duveyoung!! Nice try at a dodge Billy. That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work on me. Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do with what is inside me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Let's see if I have this right. You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one? And happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into books and then translated into a language you could understand? That you have the ability to understand this being's will? The creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will? Your human mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God? And that your birth language just happens to be able to convey through translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God? Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand his will but to carry it out in this world? And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is IMHO, your HUMBLE opinion? I don't think you understand what the term humble means. The claim that you know what living according to God's will means or are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility. For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in the following phrase: We don't know. I think Edg put it best if he doesn't mind me quoting him here: And Billy's being outside us should be seen as a clanging a gong that peals the news that he's also found inside us, or we would never have IDENTIFIED HIM OUT THEREflown into him, labeled him, targeted him. If there's a problem with Billy outside, how much more of a problem must we have with our inner Billy? Nicely put Edg/Duveyoung!!
[FairfieldLife] NOT AGAIN! .......Edg strikes......
Yes, again. But this time, I'm asking for help getting clarity about singing talent. Intuit my issue yet? Yes, it's AMERICAN IDOL TIME AGAIN! Last year about this time I boldly suggested that Idol was worth a looksee, and the silence herein was from freakin' satoriville. So, yeah, I'll try again, but this time, I've got a challenge for ya. Here's my problem, and it's real, and maybe you can help me: at the beginning of each of Idol's seasons, they show dozens and dozens of decent singers banging out tunes with elan, nuance, creativity, etc. with wonderfully listenable voices that come from a vast spectrum that swings from Janice Joplan growers to operatic profundo types to the more commercially sought golden-larynx. I'm not some musical genius, so what do I know, but, hey, I'm no dummy, and I tells ya there's a ton-O-folks in these Idol prelims that can belt it out. So, here's my problem: at the end of the season, all that hope, all that a talent, is nowhere to be found in the final contestants. Oh, they can sing, but in the last few Idol prelim shows, I've seen talent that would, I believe, blow the past Idol winners out of the water. This year's talent seems a notch above the past, yet each year, I feel the same inspired and upbeat way about the new crop, and then I come away disappointed in the winnerin fact, usually the final 12 are just not delivering on the greatness I thought was certain to arise from the initial goin'-to-Hollywood-golden-ticket holders. My working theory is that the songs we see them singing in the prelims are songs they've really really practiced and have naturally developed a more nuanced touch for particular songs, but that when Idol starts hammering them with the challenges of singing songs that are out of the contemporary interests of the singers', then we see that their talent cannot come up with an idiosyncratic version of the songs that they have only a week to develop. And out comes clunky. But this just doesn't satisfy me. I'm thinking it's more the case that I don't know what's what when it comes to projecting how far a talent can be taken and what a singing artist really faces. Or: It may have to do with the Carol King effect. That's my term for the fact that every song she ever created sounded like a Carol King song. See? The Beatles did a new sound as good as any and came out with many voices to address the many genres they tackled, and they covered many hit songs of others with their own unique take, but most artists seem to be unable to sing out of the box within which they're first presented to us. And, yep, sooner or later, the product offered just doesn't speak to one anymore. The raspy voice of the country gal, the silken tones of some crooner, the lilt of another, no matter, it all fades. It might have more to do with toys. How so? I invented dozens and dozens of toys, was in the industry for years, so I know toys, and I'm here to tell ya that there will never be another Hula Hoop craze, never another flood of buyers for Rubic's Cube, never another mania for the Yo-yo. These toys still sell millions of units per year, but, even though every year a new crop of kids turn Hula Hoop age, those millions don't get turned on to the gizmo like the 180,000,000 buyers of hoops purchased in the first year of hoop-existence. Something in our culture just can't go home again. Today's kid sees hoops on TV etc. from birth on, and by the time they can wiggle their hips, the hoops are old news. When first they came out, it was NEW NEW NEW. See? Like that, I think most singers just get plain-old KNOWN, and the new kids coming into musical awareness have already been there done that with the hipsters of even a few years back. So, maybe that's it -- jaded bots R Us, and by the time I get to the final 12 of Idol, I'll have simply had too much of them to be wowed like I was when first they sang in the prelims. Opinions? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: Nice try at a dodge Billy. That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work on me. Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do with what is inside me. You may already be acting according to God's will and don't know it, didn't meant to imply you weren't. Conscience and intuition are the products of our pilgrimage through the rounds of reincarnation. When you spontaneously act rightly it's because you have learned your lessons and intuitively know right action from the results of your past behavior. Scripture, Conscience and Intuition are the means of knowing the will of God, however until one is in complete accord with God will ones behavior be in complete harmony with the laws of nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: NOT AGAIN! .......Edg strikes......
I would have to study your post a lot longer then I would like to, to glean exactly what you're asking - but to cut to the chase, from what little I've seen of AI, it appears to be as much a popularity contest then a singing contest. So don't feel bad if your perceived talent does not go far. I did see and hear a singer near the end of this last episode that gave my listening organ a tickle - as does a fine curry tickle my mouth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Yes, again. But this time, I'm asking for help getting clarity about singing talent. Intuit my issue yet? Yes, it's AMERICAN IDOL TIME AGAIN! Last year about this time I boldly suggested that Idol was worth a looksee, and the silence herein was from freakin' satoriville. So, yeah, I'll try again, but this time, I've got a challenge for ya. Here's my problem, and it's real, and maybe you can help me: at the beginning of each of Idol's seasons, they show dozens and dozens of decent singers banging out tunes with elan, nuance, creativity, etc. with wonderfully listenable voices that come from a vast spectrum that swings from Janice Joplan growers to operatic profundo types to the more commercially sought golden-larynx. I'm not some musical genius, so what do I know, but, hey, I'm no dummy, and I tells ya there's a ton-O-folks in these Idol prelims that can belt it out. So, here's my problem: at the end of the season, all that hope, all that a talent, is nowhere to be found in the final contestants. Oh, they can sing, but in the last few Idol prelim shows, I've seen talent that would, I believe, blow the past Idol winners out of the water. This year's talent seems a notch above the past, yet each year, I feel the same inspired and upbeat way about the new crop, and then I come away disappointed in the winnerin fact, usually the final 12 are just not delivering on the greatness I thought was certain to arise from the initial goin'-to-Hollywood-golden-ticket holders. My working theory is that the songs we see them singing in the prelims are songs they've really really practiced and have naturally developed a more nuanced touch for particular songs, but that when Idol starts hammering them with the challenges of singing songs that are out of the contemporary interests of the singers', then we see that their talent cannot come up with an idiosyncratic version of the songs that they have only a week to develop. And out comes clunky. But this just doesn't satisfy me. I'm thinking it's more the case that I don't know what's what when it comes to projecting how far a talent can be taken and what a singing artist really faces. Or: It may have to do with the Carol King effect. That's my term for the fact that every song she ever created sounded like a Carol King song. See? The Beatles did a new sound as good as any and came out with many voices to address the many genres they tackled, and they covered many hit songs of others with their own unique take, but most artists seem to be unable to sing out of the box within which they're first presented to us. And, yep, sooner or later, the product offered just doesn't speak to one anymore. The raspy voice of the country gal, the silken tones of some crooner, the lilt of another, no matter, it all fades. It might have more to do with toys. How so? I invented dozens and dozens of toys, was in the industry for years, so I know toys, and I'm here to tell ya that there will never be another Hula Hoop craze, never another flood of buyers for Rubic's Cube, never another mania for the Yo-yo. These toys still sell millions of units per year, but, even though every year a new crop of kids turn Hula Hoop age, those millions don't get turned on to the gizmo like the 180,000,000 buyers of hoops purchased in the first year of hoop-existence. Something in our culture just can't go home again. Today's kid sees hoops on TV etc. from birth on, and by the time they can wiggle their hips, the hoops are old news. When first they came out, it was NEW NEW NEW. See? Like that, I think most singers just get plain-old KNOWN, and the new kids coming into musical awareness have already been there done that with the hipsters of even a few years back. So, maybe that's it -- jaded bots R Us, and by the time I get to the final 12 of Idol, I'll have simply had too much of them to be wowed like I was when first they sang in the prelims. Opinions? Edg
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---Any books been published on Maharishi since last year ? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she would not publish her book until after M.'s passing
[FairfieldLife] new books on Maharishi ???
---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Thanks, Billy, I really appreciate your response. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu tradition re the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali. All the elements that make up that image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy of Mother nature. I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. Mother Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only Spirit is eternal, never changing and secure. Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of all that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form. I don't remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be interested in your sense and feelings re that form. In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to stay away from my fearful world of changefullness, I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of Maya (nature). I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand and appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living to one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the subject. The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Thanks. Marek
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lie To Me
Turq, I caught this, too, on Hulu and it's pretty great. You described the story setup and cast perfectly. Tim Roth really provides legitimacy to the character's brilliance and I was surprised how much I liked Kelli Williams. They play off each other well. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: My brother turned me on to a new TV series in the US, thinking I might like it. He's knows me well. He described it as a series starring Tim Roth about a group of people who specialize in how to tell when a human being is lying. (According to a statistic in the first episode, the average human being tells three lies every ten minutes.) He had me at Tim Roth. I think he's been marvelous in almost everything he's been in, and was more than willing to give him a shot at doing the same thing in a weekly TV series. Good call. It's actually pretty interesting IMO. There is no oogabooga or X-Files psychic weirdness about how they tell that people are lying; it's all about the physical tells that people display when they lie. The eyes don't crinkle up in a fake smile, but they do in a real one. Does the person look away from you when you ask them something, as if they were having to think about it, or do they continue to look you straight in the eye, as if they've already prepared a script for the answer? When they tell a story that involves a sequence of actions, can they relate the same sequence of actions in reverse? (Liars rehearse the script in order in their heads, and tend not to be able to relate it backwards.) As expected, Tim Roth is excellent. So is Kelli Williams, as his associate and sidekick in the consulting firm. She's a junk food junkie who is almost as good at telling when other people are lying as he is, but who can't tell when her own husband is lying to her. Another interesting character is the newbie in the firm, a woman recruited from the ranks of airport security guards because she had a 95% rate of being right in challenging suspicious flyers. And the fourth wheel in the firm and in the cast is an employee who has an affliction that compels him to always tell the truth. He presents an interesting contrast to these people who make their living telling when others are lying, but who lie all the time themselves. Fascinating series IMO. Teaches me a lot about the ways that I determine whether someone is lying to me, but never knew consciously. Also fascinating because it delves into the *reasons* why people lie, which are not always a Bad Thing. All in all, it's a weekly reminder that sometimes we're probably better off not knowing when those around us are lying to us. Three lies every ten minutes, and all that...
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
I have always wondered what beauty is. Why are we attracted to something beautiful and less to something plain. What are the attribute of beauty and its inner essence? Why is one particular woman in Home Depot or Nordstroms attactive and another not so much. Genetic markers promoting evolutionary sustainability may give insight to men's (perhaps odd) obsessions with breasts and behinds -- and other markers that make women breath deeply when one man passes and cringe at another. Perfectly symmetrical faces and proportions has been shown to tie to perceptions of beauty. Cultural and media conditioning is another element. But these things hardly capture the totality of all the factors of attraction -- they barely scratch the surface of defining beauty. Is beuaty simply and ultimately arbitrary? or does it have an eternal form and attributes? And beauty clearly does not stop with humans. Design and art, manifest in many processes and things, can be beautiful. And nature can be so breathtakingly beautiful. Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the fariest of them all? Is a beautiful woman more beautiful than a sunset on a gorgeous beach -- with just the right defraction of light and spread of clouds -- and lapping waves, and glassy ocean. Or mountains and rivers in so many ways and forms. I just spend a more wonderful afternoon absorbed in nature and exercise. Lots of heavy breathing, and I was totally embraced by both expansively subtle and intense clusters of beauty. Would an afternoon of sex with the home depot lady have been more fulfilling? While I am up for research on this, lots of A/B trials, taking nature as a lover has some clear appeal. She is ever fresh, creative, sparkling and surprising. No fear of her running off with another man. Its not hard to get a date. And if you need some time alone, without her, she doesn't cringe and she welcomes you back when ever you want with open enthusiastic arms. And what is the commonality between a a beautiful woman and nature? Beyond outward expression, is there a commonality, or at least overlap, at a deep level? It seems a times that the glow within her is the same glow within Her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
Billie, what if God doesn't exist? Or Go exists and God is found to be way different than you conceptualize God? I imagine your reaction would be one of devastation -- but that is only speculation. I imagine if God exists and Curtis met God, he would say cool -- so to speak, -- I am sure he would have more eloquent words. His life would be similar to how it is now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Nice try at a dodge Billy. That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work on me. Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do with what is inside me. You may already be acting according to God's will and don't know it, didn't meant to imply you weren't. Conscience and intuition are the products of our pilgrimage through the rounds of reincarnation. When you spontaneously act rightly it's because you have learned your lessons and intuitively know right action from the results of your past behavior. Scripture, Conscience and Intuition are the means of knowing the will of God, however until one is in complete accord with God will ones behavior be in complete harmony with the laws of nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Billie, what if God doesn't exist? Or Go exists and God is found to be way different than you conceptualize God? I imagine your reaction would be one of devastation -- but that is only speculation. I imagine if God exists and Curtis met God, he would say cool -- so to speak, -- I am sure he would have more eloquent words. His life would be similar to how it is now. Which, if there is a God, I imagine God, ironically. would find the use of God as a crutch less worthy than one who is thinking and acting with tools God created in him. And if God actually prefers the man using God as a crutch, then that may speak to the deficiency of the God's creative power to create self-sufficient beings. That such had God may be a lesser God -- not the Creator of the entire cosmos. Think about it -- God has to manage the whole Cosmos. If God is smart -- and if God exists I hope its a smart God ( what if God is like Bush) -- from God's view, or any managers, is it more efficient to micro manage every single thing God creates humans, plants, cells, galaxies) or to create the tools within each being to be make decisions far down the chain of command as possible. If man is truly made in the image of God, then doesn't it follow that man has the blueprint -- and has the resources to (eventually) figure it out and manage their lives productively and with other people and nature? What parent wants their kid living at home at 30, totally dependent on the parents for sustenance and guidance in every single little thing that comes along? If no parents want this, why would God, for God's sake, want it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ wrote: Anyone have any opinions on fluoride in the drinking water, it's benefits and health problems.Does Vedic City fluoridate it's water as well as MUM? Google it and it should be easy to decide Opinion- very bad stuff. N. After researching it, I agree, that it's not good for anyone which is why I wondered if MUM or Vedic City allow it in the water system considering their concern for healthy living.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ysoy10li ysoy1...@... wrote: ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement.
[FairfieldLife] Moral Codes, Transcendence of Meaning and Seducing Women
I was reading this this evening and parts seem germane and further some of the discussion in the attractive powers thread. For me it raises some questions -- Is beauty meaningful? Finding a way of life that does not rely on metaphysical speculation. Does a man need moral codes to be moral and ethical? Innocence vs Sin. Is there meaningfulness when living in the present, as such is similar to Don Juan's modus. The Myth of Sisyphus Albert Camus The Absurd Man: Don Juanism Excerpts of Summary http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/sisyphus/section5.rhtml While the first part carried an abstract discussion of the concept of the absurd and the consequences of living with it, this part provides a number of examples of lives that embrace Camus's principles of revolt, freedom, and passion --- Camus prefaces his analysis of these examples with a few remarks as to what they all hold in common. The absurd man relies only on his courage not to hope for anything more than life has given him and on his reasoning that tells him that all his actions are limited to having consequences in this world, and not in a world beyond. The absurd man is amoral (which is not to say that he is immoral). Either morality comes from God or it is invented by humans in order to justify certain kinds of behavior. The absurd man cannot believe in God, and he has no need of justification. He is guided only by his own integrity, and integrity does not need to be guided by a moral code. Because he is free from morality, and thus from the concepts of guilt or wrong-doing, Camus describes the absurd man as innocent. His first example of the absurd man is the famous seducer, Don Juan. He moves from woman to woman, seducing each one in turn with the same tacticsthe same maneuverswith which he seduced his previous lovers. He never stays with one woman too long before moving on to his next conquest. Camus dismisses all accusations that Don Juan is desperately seeking true love, or that he is melancholy, or that he is unimaginatively repetitive, or that he is callously selfish, or that he will be a miserable old man. All these accusations seem to assume that Don Juan is ultimately hoping to achieve transcendence, to find something that will take him beyond his day-to-day seductions, and that he is totally incapable of finding that transcendence. On the contrary, Camus portrays Don Juan as a man who lives for the passions of the present moment. He lives without hope of finding any transcendent significance in his life, and he recognizes the meaninglessness of his seductions. He is not looking for true love; he wants only to experience the continual repetition of his conquests. He is not melancholy; that would suppose that he hopes for something more or that he doesn't know all that he needs to know. He is not unimaginatively repetitive in his seductions; he is interested in quantity, not quality, and so if the same techniques always get him the desired result there is no reason to alter them. He is not callously selfish; he may be selfish in his own way, but he does not seek to possess or control those whom he seduces. He will not suffer the consequences of his actions; he lives in full awareness of who he is and of where he is going. Therefore, old age and impotence can hardly catch him off-guard. Analysis His interest is in the art of living, and throughout the first part, his investigation is constantly directed not by a search for truth but by a search for a way of life that does not rely on metaphysical speculation. His primary interest is how to live, and it is only natural that he should then turn to a practical discussion of the absurd life, as he does in this section. The difference between the absurd man and the rest of mankind is not so much a matter of outward actions but of the inward attitude he takes toward his actions. The difference, it seems, between Don Juan and an ordinary seducer, is not so much a difference in behavior as a difference in their attitude toward their behavior. --- for Don Juan there is nothing beyond the seduction. Don Juan does not seduce women in the hope of finding love or of easing his melancholy: he seduces for the joy of seducing. Don Juan is an absurd man in that he acknowledges that his life is meaningless and that his actions have no significance beyond their consequences in this life. Camus characterizes the absurd man as essentially innocent, a term he probably uses in contrast to the Christian concept of sin. According to Catholic doctrine, we are all born sinners, stamped with the original sin of Adam and Eve. A Christian lives with a constant awareness of sin and guilt, and works to earn forgiveness and entrance into the kingdom of heaven. The Christian life thus focuses on a cosmic struggle between our inherent evil and our capacity for good. The innocence of the absurd man, however, negates any awareness of sin or guilt. A fear of divine judgment or a sense of a
[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote: Anyone have any opinions on fluoride in the drinking water, it's benefits and health problems.Does Vedic City fluoridate it's water as well as MUM? It's funny because back in the '50s and '60s the flouride debate was kinda the quintessential collective versus individualsim debate in the United States. Those for flouridation cited studies that allegedly showed that municipalities that flouridated their water had children with significantly lower rates of cavities, etc. So the reasoning was: why not do it and help out those kids whose parents wouldn't teach them to brush, etc. Those against decried government interfering with what should be a personal choice. I'm with the latter. I grew up in a community that did NOT flouridate yet my mother wanted us to have the benefit of it. So what did she do? She purchased flouride from the pharmacy and put the prescribed dose in our orange juice every morning when we were kids. This to me is the answer to the debate: those that are against it don't have it forced on them; those that do can do what my mother did. Another thing: I don't know if there are any studies on this but if you flouridate the entire water supply I cannot imagine that the benefits of flouridation could be as good as if you have controlled dosages, such as what my mother did. And wouldn't flouridation threaten the full benefits of people who want to give their children controlled dosages...kinda whitewashing any possibility that controlled dosages could get the results they want? Flouridation policy reminds me of the debate over statins (cholesteral reducing drugs): we may know what they do in the short term but no one has ANY idea what the long-term effects are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote: ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. Judy Stein recanted her liberal philosophy because people in the movement were unhappy? I thought it was because Barack was elected...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Social Security - A Ponzi Scheme?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Too many old Farts??? 01/31/09 * S. S. -- A PONZI SCHEME WITHIN A PONZI SCHEME http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/ I wish I could find a quote from FDR about Social Security because it's a classic. Social Security, of course, became a reality under FDR. And, as you can imagine, there was widespread opposition to it. The quote I'm thinking of was when people complained that the costs to fund the program would, eventually, spiral out of control. And FDR's response was something to the effect: I give you my solemn word that Social Security will never cost more than 1.5% of income! Today, Social Security contributions are 12.4% of the first approximately $99,000 of Adjusted Gross Income. Of course it's a Ponzi Scheme...Madoff probably ran a more successful one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ wrote: Anyone have any opinions on fluoride in the drinking water, it's benefits and health problems.Does Vedic City fluoridate it's water as well as MUM? It's funny because back in the '50s and '60s the flouride debate was kinda the quintessential collective versus individualsim debate in the United States. Those for flouridation cited studies that allegedly showed that municipalities that flouridated their water had children with significantly lower rates of cavities, etc. So the reasoning was: why not do it and help out those kids whose parents wouldn't teach them to brush, etc. Those against decried government interfering with what should be a personal choice. I'm with the latter. I grew up in a community that did NOT flouridate yet my mother wanted us to have the benefit of it. So what did she do? She purchased flouride from the pharmacy and put the prescribed dose in our orange juice every morning when we were kids. This to me is the answer to the debate: those that are against it don't have it forced on them; those that do can do what my mother did. Another thing: I don't know if there are any studies on this but if you flouridate the entire water supply I cannot imagine that the benefits of flouridation could be as good as if you have controlled dosages, such as what my mother did. And wouldn't flouridation threaten the full benefits of people who want to give their children controlled dosages...kinda whitewashing any possibility that controlled dosages could get the results they want? Flouridation policy reminds me of the debate over statins (cholesteral reducing drugs): we may know what they do in the short term but no one has ANY idea what the long-term effects are. It's very difficult to stop cities from fluoridating their water but since Vedic City is an incorporated town with a philosophy of Vedic health standards, it would probably be easy to get them to stop putting this poison in the water.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Joe Smith msilver1...@yahoo.com wrote: Vedic City has all Fairfield services. The water comes from Fairfield, the electricity comes from Fairfield, I've seen FF and county law enforcement at accidents in VC. Mountain Valley Spring water is very popular amongst the residents of VC.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. --Wow! If true, that certainly balances out some of the more incriminating written evidence shown in the Sexy Sadie file on FFL Like someone wrote after reading it : Nothing like putting the accusations to cross (-examination) to bring out the truth ! Very cool...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water
On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Joe Smith wrote: It's very difficult to stop cities from fluoridating their water but since Vedic City is an incorporated town with a philosophy of Vedic health standards, it would probably be easy to get them to stop putting this poison in the water. And we all know how great Vedic health standards are... anybody know the average life span in India? Maybe they could lace the water with something really beneficial instead, like mercury or cow poop. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Joe Smith wrote: It's very difficult to stop cities from fluoridating their water but since Vedic City is an incorporated town with a philosophy of Vedic health standards, it would probably be easy to get them to stop putting this poison in the water. And we all know how great Vedic health standards are... anybody know the average life span in India? Indian Life Expectancy: 69.25 years per capita annual income: $820. USA Life Expectancy: 78.10 years per capita annual income: $46,000. considering the income disparity, i'd venture India is kicking our ass, big time. Maybe they could lace the water with something really beneficial instead, like mercury or cow poop. Sal weren't you just on here railing against racism or some damned thing? or is it ok to be racist against Indians, but just not black people? you've really gotta rethink that, Sally-- recompose the picture so to speak ;-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy1...@... wrote: ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were?
[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote: ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were? My thoughts exactly. When did she recant her story? Please give exact quotes and references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Billie, what if God doesn't exist? Or Go exists and God is found to be way different than you conceptualize God? I imagine your reaction would be one of devastation -- but that is only speculation. I imagine if God exists and Curtis met God, he would say cool -- so to speak, God and I are not cool. Actually I would be all up in his infinite grill about animals eating each other alive. He made some with a merciful kill bite and others with a strategy of eating their prey alive. This is uncool and there is no excuse for it. Then we can discuss the Guinea worm in drinking water. What a total putz for inventing that! http://tinyurl.com/da9a4m There is no excuse for this suffering in the world. (I know some of this material is a repeat but I am not over Guinea worms yet so please bear with me, I'm still warming up.) If he wasn't a myth I would be totally pissed about his lack of concern for the suffering of living creatures. (the Karma copout only applies to humans, and not very well IMO) And he would also have to answer for his crappy communication skills. Everybody else has a Website or a cable TV channel and the lord of the universe can't shell out a few bucks so humans have a chance to understand what he wants? Hellooo Mr. Omniscient, ever heard of Myspace or texting? You lack the communication skills of 13 year old girls and you expect use to obey your words from old books that also support slavery? Even Doug Henning had TV specials, how hard is that? -- I am sure he would have more eloquent words. You are too kind, I would be a raging idiot. The meeting would not go well. His life would be similar to how it is now. Well, if he turns out to be Hindu there is that beef thing... Or Muslim there is that pork thing... And if he is really Amish we are all screwed just for using this electronic forum! And if he is a Parsi, can you imagine how damned we are for just the bugs we have inhaled? (I won't tell him about your roach motels if you don't tell him that my freezer is full of prime cuts of Bambi's mom. (And I would have wasted a life NOT putting Zoroastrianism on all invasively personal forms, just to see the bureaucrat's face!) And if he is Jewish and we don't have those curly sideburns and the years dipping lobster in melted butter and mornings with bacon, (both Canadian and the good kind) we are eternal toast. Of it turns out to be Kali and Pol Pot and Mao are sitting in heaven with big grins at the banquet table and people like me who only inhaled bugs and ate meat, but never took a human life, don't get in. And if she is Kali AND a feminist who knows what is in my JPG packed file in the folder named: boring business stuff that would be uninteresting to any girlfriend reading this. So Pascal's Wager (you might as well believe because it is not too much of a pain in the ass and the upside might be huge) is bogus. None of us are any better prepared for the WYMS thug at the pearly gates announcing in his obnoxious German accent: Too bad, the answer is Poseidon. Everybody who has been making the appropriate offerings to the Lord Poseidon of conch shells each full moon can come into heaven for our eternal seafood brunch, and the rest of you will report below for an eternity of service to Dick Cheney. Don't bother packing any sweaters, swimwear optional. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Nice try at a dodge Billy. That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work on me. Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do with what is inside me. You may already be acting according to God's will and don't know it, didn't meant to imply you weren't. Conscience and intuition are the products of our pilgrimage through the rounds of reincarnation. When you spontaneously act rightly it's because you have learned your lessons and intuitively know right action from the results of your past behavior. Scripture, Conscience and Intuition are the means of knowing the will of God, however until one is in complete accord with God will ones behavior be in complete harmony with the laws of nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote: ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were? My thoughts exactly. When did she recant her story? Please give exact quotes and references. oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more comfortable believing the he fucked around rumors, instead of believing the he didn't fuck around rumors? did i get that right? gotta wonder about the bias, don't you-- or does that just not matter, trumped by character assassination?
[FairfieldLife] Re: NOT AGAIN! .......Edg strikes......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Yes, again. But this time, I'm asking for help getting clarity about singing talent. Intuit my issue yet? Yes, it's AMERICAN IDOL TIME AGAIN! Last year about this time I boldly suggested that Idol was worth a looksee, and the silence herein was from freakin' satoriville. So, yeah, I'll try again, but this time, I've got a challenge for ya. Perhaps it's a bit like Liberace trying to play boogie woogie: amazing technique in the 16 to bar version, but almost no spirit, IMO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9nO9Ro_kd4 Albert Ammons and Pete Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIVJw8yX6GY
[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote: ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were? Just being a jerk Rick, but it has been a year now. Personally, I don't think the book will ever be published. On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:04 AM, Ron F wrote (quoting Deepak Chopra): There was never any truth to stories about the maharishi's womanising. If any women are going to come forth with their stories, now would be the time. The only woman I know of who has said she's going to come forward is Judith B., who reportedly has written a book, but is waiting till MMY dies to publish it.