[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Jan 30, 2009, at 7:11 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
  
  Thanks for noticing.  My shoes are killing me but they look 
  fabulous don't they?
 
 You got it, many shoes are high-class torture.
 Who needs waterboarding when you got those?

Amen, sister. :-)

After Bhairitu mentioned The Last Templar
here recently, I went to the IMDB and looked
it up, and I noticed that the majority of the
one-star (out of 10) reviews mentioned that
they regretted that there was no lower rating
that they could use.

Well, that made it an absolute must see for
me, so I downloaded it and watched it. And I
must say that in general the reviewers were
right, but that it had redeeming qualities.
One of them was Miro Sorvino, as an Indiana
Jones-like archeologist, walking about in her
Manolo Blahniks. 

Yes, they made her already-attractive legs
look great. But yes, they probably were worse
as a form of torture than tossing Indy into
a vat full of snakes.  :-)

I'm with both Curtis and you on the subject
of women playing dress-up. I truly appreciate
the lengths they go to to look attractive,
and often succeed. At the same time, I thought
that Mira Sorvino looked just as hot in her
archeology togs. I'm sure you look fetching
in sweats, with or without the Manolos.

It's the inner hotness that counts. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Name the speaker

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@...
wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:36 PM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@...wrote:
 
  Chill the fuck out?
 
  I say the opposite: L. Shaddai has shown too much restraint.  He
  should be even MORE angry than he is.
 
  To call someone a racist is one of the lowest things you can 
  do in this day and age...and he has every right to be angry.
 
  Indeed, the act of posting another person's private or public
  information on the web is about 10% as outrageous as the act of
  calling another person a racist without there being any 
  justification for it, which I believe to be the case here (at 
  least as far as the impugned words that everyone seems to be up 
  in arms about).
 
 Thank you Shemp.  Of course no one bothered to read my response 
 to Edward as to whether or not I had meant what I said with the 
 word spawn.
 
 Actually, posting the public information on a public website to 
 help them fill out their next application for credit was the 
 gentlest thing I could do considering the options I have 
 available to me.  Don't worry.  T'ain't illegal.  

Neither would be these folks whom you have
threatened gathering up a collection of 
your posts railing against the TMO on this
forum and mailing them to the course admin-
istrators for IA in Fairfield, right? With 
your real name attached to them. 

Using the reasoning you have been displaying
lately, that would be a fair thing for someone
here to do, right? To defend themselves?

And, although there is nothing illegal about
it, I suspect you know what would happen as a 
result, right?

Chill the fuck out, dude. 

You are embarrassing yourself and the IA courses
and the meditation programs you seem to enjoy so 
much. The next time you suggest that *Edg* is 
manic depressive, I think you're going to hear 
howls of silent laughter in the background.

 But it does show how I feel about the snap decisions both 
 made to call me nasty names and their continued repeating 
 this business about racism with me as the object lesson.  
 If they want to perpetuate nasty, well, as you rip so 
 shall ye sew.

I think the words you're searching for are reap
and sow. That said, I suggest you ponder what 
I've said above. Of all people on this forum, 
neither Edg nor Marek are the ones who need to 
fear much from having the things they'd prefer
to keep private made public. But frankly, you do. 

It's not as if it was difficult to figure out
who you are. How many people on one forum brag
about having worked for the Gambino family?

'Nuff said, I hope. 

STOP this embarrassing shit, dude. You have a 
higher side that is delightful. I enjoy it 
and enjoy interacting with it. And then you 
have this inner crazy person who comes out
from time to time, and that person acts like
a real dick. That's the person who is acting
like a petulant child because someone called
him on being something that in the past he not 
only admitted to being himself, but *proudly* 
admitted to being.

STFU.

It's the only way you can salvage anything
even remotely resembling respect on this forum.





[FairfieldLife] Re: OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-31 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@...
wrote:
 I can't believe you are still quoting Monier-Williams.
 Do you realize that quoting Monier-Williams is like quoting the Bible as
 fact.
 
 Apachiti = The movement that is the waters that protect from abuse
 and disease

Taijat olla huumormiehii? : )

Yeah, right!

 Forceps = Power Post Script.
Window = be victorious on the stock market!

Troll over, Beethoven! LOL!
 

 
 OffWorld
 
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Superior Races and The Titantic'

2009-01-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

 I believe that we are all souls, having the experience of 
inhabiting a
 body, for the time we are here, this time...
 
 The main lesson of all humans who considered themselves superior to
 others, or choose to use this supposed superiority to dominate 
others,
 make a clear mistake to life.
 
 If a white guy like me, spends some time in Mexico, after a while, 
it
 will appear that I am brown.
 
 So, whether you wish to quote Abraham Lincoln, Adolf Hitler, or
 whomever, they were both wrong on this subject.
 
 Being Jewish, I would also add, it is wrong to consider Arabs
 inferior, and vice versa...
 
 Until we get this lesson, we will be constricted by this limited and
 obnoxious belief...that one is superior than others.
 
 Remember the land we occupy, was stolen from the Native Americans, 
who
 lived here for thousands of years, caring for the land, and 
developing
 many, many beautiful traditions...they too were wiped out by the 
ones
 who considered themselves, superior.
 
 When you consider yourself superior, you are asking for a fall...
 
 I remember one time, when I was working with a teenager, who was
 autistic, and had the functional level of a two year old. I thought 
to
 myself, how could God create such a one, and also create a 
Maharishi.
 Later, my question was answered, when I was leaving... 
 He, somehow knew, I was going, intuitively, I guess, and I felt from
 him the same kind of unconditional love, that I had felt in
 Maharishi's presence...
 R.G.

What's wrong with this babajii fellow, posting a sane post on FFL !




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   Some day woman will team with men, and sex will be held to be a
   sacrament (like in the Catholic Church) and woman won't flaunt
*it* in
   a selfish attempt to gain some advantage here or there.
Certainly as a
   society we can do better, time for *real* change.
  
  Why not put yourself out of your misery and move to the countries in
  the Mideast where they have their women under control?
  
  Many people are not threatened by a woman who has taken the time to
  attract attention. 
 
 Don't you get sick of being bombarded by woman's sexuality day and
 night?  From high school on up to mature adulthood woman are
 constantly flaunting their sexuality and vanity for men AND other
 woman. It's as bad (or worse) as men ogling them constantly. 
 Commercials, dress, movies, internet, and on and on and on!  Grow up!


It wouldn't be a problem for you BillyG if you weren't attached to it.
The attachment is within 'you'. The problem is 'yours'.





[FairfieldLife] -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument

2009-01-31 Thread do.rflex


September 22, 2003 -

The problems in Iraq are ahead of us,
but we're doing better than people think. 
And a year from now, I'll be very surprised 
if there is not some grand square in 
Baghdad that is named after President Bush. 

There is no doubt that, with the exception 
of a very small number of people close to 
a vicious regime, the people of Iraq have 
been liberated and they understand that 
they've been liberated. And it is getting 
easier every day for Iraqis to express 
that sense of liberation.

~~ Richard Perle (PNAC Neocon)
http://www.aei.org/events/contentID.20031003144313426/default.asp


 -Liberated-  Iraqis Give Bush His Monument

SEE MONUMENT:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/WORLD/meast/01/29/iraq.shoe.monument/art.shoe.monument.cnn.jpg

http://snipurl.com/b208w

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- For the war-beaten orphans of the northern
Iraqi city of Tikrit, this big old shoe fits.

A huge sculpture of the footwear hurled at President Bush in December
during a trip to Iraq has been unveiled in a ceremony at the Tikrit
Orphanage complex.

Assisted by children at the home, sculptor Laith al-Amiri erected a
brown replica of one of the shoes hurled at Bush and Prime Minister
Nuri al-Maliki by journalist Muntadhir al-Zaidi during a press
conference in Baghdad.

Al-Zaidi was jailed for his actions, and a trial is pending. But his
angry gesture touched a defiant nerve throughout the Arab and Muslim
world. He is regarded by many people as a hero. Demonstrators in
December took to the streets in the Arab world and called for his release.

The shoe monument, made of fiberglass and coated with copper, consists
of the shoe and a concrete base. The entire monument is 3.5 meters
(11.5 feet) high. The shoe is 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) long and 1.5
meters (4.9 feet) wide.

The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure -- unveiled
Tuesday -- in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage
director.

Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were
the victims of Bush's war, al-Naseri said. The shoe monument is a
gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the
journalist.
Don't Miss

When the next generation sees the shoe monument, they will ask their
parents about it, al-Naseri said.

Then their parents will start talking about the hero Muntadhir
al-Zaidi, who threw his shoe at George W. Bush during his unannounced
farewell visit.

Saddam Hussein, the former Iraqi leader toppled by the United States
in 2003, was from the Tikrit region.

Al-Zaidi marked his 30th birthday in jail earlier this month. One of
his brothers said he is in good health and is being treated well.

Al-Zaidi's employer, TV network al-Baghdadia, keeps a picture of him
at the top left side of the screen with a calendar showing the number
of days he has spent in detention. The network has been calling for
his release.

By tradition, throwing a shoe is the most insulting act in the Arab world.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/29/iraq.shoe.monument/index.html?section=cnn_latest

http://snipurl.com/b2080









[FairfieldLife] Lincoln and Obama -copied from SOHAMSA list

2009-01-31 Thread shukra69
Lincoln and Obama Link   Message List

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Namaste,
 
I just want to point out a small point I noticed.
 
Take the D-60 (shashtyamsa chart) of Barack Obama: Jupiter in Ar, 
Saturn  Rahu in Ta, Mars in Ge, Sun in Vi, Venus in Li, Ketu in Sc, 
Mercury and Moon in Cp.
 
Take the rasi chart of Abraham Lincoln: Lagna, Sun and Mercury in Aq, 
Venus and Jupiter in Pi, Ketu in Ar, Mars and Rahu in Li, Saturn in 
Sc, Moon in Cp.
 
IF Obama's D-60 chart has arudha lagna in Virgo and we judge the 
shashtyamsa from Vi to see past life, we see significant similarities 
between the two charts.
 
***
 
Lincoln's rasi chart had Sun and Mercury in 1st. Obama's D-60 has Sun 
in a Mercurian sign in 1st (from arudha lagna). Lincoln's 2nd has a 
strong (exalted) Venus with a strong Jupiter. Obama's 2nd has a 
strong (moolatrikona) Venus aspected by Jupiter in a friendly sign. 
Both have Ketu in a Martian sign in 3rd. Lincoln has 4th lord Venus 
in a sign of Jupiter. Obama has 4th owned by Jupiter and Venus 
aspecting 4th lord. Lincoln has 5th owned by Mercury. Obama has 
Mercury in 5th. Lincoln's 6th lord is in a sign of Saturn aspected by 
Saturn. Obama's 6th is owned and aspected by Saturn. Lincoln's 8th is 
aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Obama's 8th has Jupiter aspected by 
Venus. Lincoln's 9th has Mars (a malefic) and Rahu in Venusian sign. 
Obama's 9th has Saturn (a malefic) and Rahu in a Venusian sign. 
Lincoln's 10th has Saturn (a malefic) in a Martian sign. Obama's 10th 
has Mars (a malefic). Lincoln's 12th has Moon and 12th lord owns and 
aspects lagna too. Obama's 12th is aspected by Moon and 12th lord is 
in lagna.
 
These are interesting similarities and just wanted to mention them.
 
***
 
Scriptures say that the last desire of a person at the moment of 
death is the basis for the next life. If one has sufficient punya, 
one may get a chart corresponding to that desire. The last desire 
should be visible in the punya chakra (death chart).
 
For those who want to study Abraham Lincoln's punya chakra, here is 
the data: 1865 April 15, 7:22:10 am (LMT), Washington DC. He died 
under intense medical supervision and the time was recorded by his 
doctor.
 
The 7th house of desire in this death chart is Sc. That shows the 
last desires and final thoughts. Take that as lagna to see desire 
relative to various houses. The key combinations are a very strong 
Saturn with Rahu in 12th and Mercury, Sun and Ketu aspected by Moon 
in 6th.
 
Obama has Mercury and Sun together in a sign of Moon and aspected by 
Ketu and Saturn is opposite them (aspected by Rahu). If you take Aq 
lagna, these combinations fall in the same houses (6th and 12th) as 
in Lincoln's punya chakra. In fact, a birthtime of 8 pm for Obama is 
quite interesting. Events like his marriage, his career, his election 
etc make perfect sense based on natal dasas as well as TA dasa of 
relevant annual TP charts.
 
***
 
Those interested in punya chakra and next birth chart links can get 
some practical examples of people with past life recollection in Sri 
KN Rao's nice book on Karma and Rebirth.
 
Best regards,
Narasimha
--
Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam
Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana
Spirituality: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vedic-wisdom
Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net
Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org
Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation
  about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger
  than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found
  he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling
  was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the
  context of discussing how he was going to fix my
  tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was
  unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic
  context.
 
 I'd bet his kitchen if full of great food!

I'd love to know how you got from an oral surgeon and
his patient ogling each other as they discuss tooth
treatments to thinking the surgeon's kitchen must be
full of great food. Not saying it isn't, but it's just
a very odd connection to make!

 Here is a guy who knows how to live.

I guess this is it: he knows how to live because he
has no inhibitions about flirting with an older woman,
and men who know how to live also dig great food...
right? Still odd!

 Good on you too Judy.  These are poetic moments to cherish!

Dunno about cherishing, but it sure was fun.

Only trouble is, now I have to get the damn tooth
fixed, and that probably will *not* be fun. I just
hope if he gives me laughing gas, I don't embarrass
myself...


  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
   I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got
   major ogled.  With my gray streaks in my hair I
   was a young chicken to these ladies, and when I
   sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their
   eyes sparkled as they caught mine.  We saw the
   spark of attraction in each other, knowing the
   days of flaunting it were over.  But for a
   moment they felt the electric charge of opposites
   attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful
   feelings in life.
  
  Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation
  about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger
  than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found
  he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling
  was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the
  context of discussing how he was going to fix my
  tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was
  unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic
  context.
  
  I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but
  not so often by younger men, so this encounter was
  a nice ego boost.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
snip

 I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got major ogled.  With my
 gray streaks in my hair I was a young chicken to these ladies, and
 when I sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their eyes sparkled as
 they caught mine.  We saw the spark of attraction in each other,
 knowing the days of flaunting it were over.  But for a moment they
 felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most
 precious,beautiful feelings in life. 

Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for
now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious
beautiful feelings in life!   (pssst. How pathetic!)

No wonder you don't meditate anymore you probably never had any
spiritual experiences, if you had, you'd still be meditating today.
There is nothing to compare with the superior bliss of spirit.
 
 Your impoverished view of sexuality diminishes your life.  You are
 like a person who only sees food as harmful. I'll just bet you have
 the kitchen cupboard of a fasting nun. If I had you over for dinner
 you would spend the whole time in horror at all the bad foods I was
 eating.   
 
 You have twisted sensuality to always mean sexuality, 

No, I think you have, I'm talking about the misuse and exploitation of
sexuality out of the context of that for which it was intended. Don't
know where you got all of those other ideas, perhaps it is you that
can't discern the difference between normal attraction between the
sexes and blatant sexuality. Perhaps you don't know the difference.?  

You sound like Don Quixote fighting made up windmills in your own
mind, I was very clear, you're way off point.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread raunchydog
Taliban Billy

Taliban Billy walked down the street
Avoiding hot women asking to meet

He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen
Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in

Guilty projection not owning eschewing 
Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing

The women just laughed chiding his fears
Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres

Proudly they swayed from east to the west
An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts

Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming
Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming

It's hard to ignore sexual attraction
Until aged libido doesn't get action

Don't blame the women for doing their best
To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test

Covering modestly is much overrated
Women you see, have long liberated

Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can
Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man

raunchydog


In honor of liberated women:

http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv

Bread and Roses

As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day,
A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray,
Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses,
For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses!

As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men,
For they are women's children, and we mother them again.
Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses.

As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead
Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread.
Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew.
Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too.

As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days,
The rising of the women means the rising of the race.
No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes,
But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses.
Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
 
 Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation
 about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger
 than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found
 he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling
 was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the
 context of discussing how he was going to fix my
 tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was
 unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic
 context.
 
 I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but
 not so often by younger men, so this encounter was
 a nice ego boost.

As is the case with most woman as they get older, nothing wrong with
feeling flattered (especially if you weren't looking for it) though I
think it's important to remember that your true self esteem and
happiness come from your own sterling character (or conversely, lack
of it) and not so much from your physical appearance, after all it is
only the most exterior and objective part of your true self.

True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing yourself in the eyes
of God and/or scripture and knowing you are following those guidelines
successfully.  Once you transgress the boundaries of ethical or moral
living your self-esteem (and inner well being and happiness) suffers
also, immediately.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... 
wrote:
snip
 Curtis, When you mention food in connection with
 a spark of attraction between the sexes, I couldn't
 help but think of the movie Tom Jones and the
 lusty eating scene. http://tinyurl.com/3432pe Enjoy.

Which, apparently, was improvised.

Oh, lord, I had *such* a crush on Albert Finney after
that movie.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:


 It wouldn't be a problem for you BillyG if you weren't attached to it.
 The attachment is within 'you'. The problem is 'yours'.

And yours my friend, the attraction to the opposite sex is put there
by God to procreate the race.  If woman are constantly abusing that
power by agitating it in man (for personal gain) they are
transgressing the laws of nature by using it outside of the context
for which it was intended






[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but
  not so often by younger men, so this encounter was
  a nice ego boost.
 
 As is the case with most woman as they get older, 
 nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if
 you weren't looking for it) though I think it's
 important to remember that your true self esteem and
 happiness come from your own sterling character (or
 conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your
 physical appearance, after all it is only the most
 exterior and objective part of your true self.
 
 True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing
 yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and
 knowing you are following those guidelines
 successfully.  Once you transgress the boundaries of
 ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner
 well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately.

BillyG, you're going to asphyxiate yourself with your
own stuffiness.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

snip
 
 Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for
 now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious
 beautiful feelings in life!   (pssst. How pathetic!)

How sour.  My best years are certainly not behind me.  Artists only
improve with age.

 
 No wonder you don't meditate anymore you probably never had any
 spiritual experiences,

Yeah that must be it.

if you had, you'd still be meditating today.

It couldn't be any other way!  The world really is as YOU are Billy.

 There is nothing to compare with the superior bliss of spirit.

That is what I've been talking about.  I guess once a woman wears
lipstick all you can do is see red.

  
snip 
  
  You have twisted sensuality to always mean sexuality, 
 
 No, I think you have, I'm talking about the misuse and exploitation of
 sexuality out of the context of that for which it was intended. 

for which it was intended  The phrase of the self-righteously
religious.  I'm gunna have to pass on that.

Don't
 know where you got all of those other ideas, perhaps it is you that
 can't discern the difference between normal attraction between the
 sexes and blatant sexuality.

You are right here.  I don't make this distinction.  You see each
person is different and different cultures have different rules for
expressing these distinctions.  I prefer to see people's intentions in
a more positive light.  Must be my lack of spiritual experiences that
keeps me from being so judgmental.  Although I have had enough to be
judgmental about your POV, I think you are Crabby Appleton waving your
cane at those youn'uns with their city slicker ways and their lack of
modesty in their dress.

 Perhaps you don't know the difference.?  
 
 You sound like Don Quixote fighting made up windmills in your own
 mind, I was very clear, you're way off point.

Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed
in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you
consider flaunting it. 












[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
   I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but
   not so often by younger men, so this encounter was
   a nice ego boost.
  
  As is the case with most woman as they get older, 
  nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if
  you weren't looking for it) though I think it's
  important to remember that your true self esteem and
  happiness come from your own sterling character (or
  conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your
  physical appearance, after all it is only the most
  exterior and objective part of your true self.
  
  True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing
  yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and
  knowing you are following those guidelines
  successfully.  Once you transgress the boundaries of
  ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner
  well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately.
 
 BillyG, you're going to asphyxiate yourself with your
 own stuffiness.


Maybe he's a gasper.



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and 
 is dressed in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like 
 to see what you consider flaunting it. 

From the security cameras at the Home Depot
that Billy visited. I think it was the click-
click of her Manolo Blahniks that did him in.

http://jezebel.com/assets/resources/2007/10/burka.png





[FairfieldLife] Re: Computer Upgrade? Question for the Geeks

2009-01-31 Thread uns_tressor
Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
 I always have stuff downloading. To me an internet conection 
 means ones should use it up even if just passively lending...

In that case, your drive probably contains half a dozen scrotes
from Bulgaria arguing over who has the right to steal/screw up
your system.

We're not living in the '80s any more.



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
 I guess this is it: he knows how to live because he
 has no inhibitions about flirting with an older woman,
 and men who know how to live also dig great food...
 right? Still odd!

Really?  His senses are awake and he is looking for morsels of delight
everywhere.  I do associate a person's approach to food with their
commitment to living in their senses.  Food is a sensual choice we
make a few times a day.  It is very revealing.  Same with the music a
person chooses or what hangs on their walls.

And despite the over the top comedy of Raunchy's food flirting flick,
I learn a lot about how a woman will be intimately by watching her
eat. Food is life to me.  It needs to be savored not rushed.  



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation
   about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger
   than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found
   he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling
   was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the
   context of discussing how he was going to fix my
   tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was
   unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic
   context.
  
  I'd bet his kitchen if full of great food!
 
 I'd love to know how you got from an oral surgeon and
 his patient ogling each other as they discuss tooth
 treatments to thinking the surgeon's kitchen must be
 full of great food. Not saying it isn't, but it's just
 a very odd connection to make!
 
  Here is a guy who knows how to live.
 
 I guess this is it: he knows how to live because he
 has no inhibitions about flirting with an older woman,
 and men who know how to live also dig great food...
 right? Still odd!
 
  Good on you too Judy.  These are poetic moments to cherish!
 
 Dunno about cherishing, but it sure was fun.
 
 Only trouble is, now I have to get the damn tooth
 fixed, and that probably will *not* be fun. I just
 hope if he gives me laughing gas, I don't embarrass
 myself...
 
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   snip
I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got
major ogled.  With my gray streaks in my hair I
was a young chicken to these ladies, and when I
sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their
eyes sparkled as they caught mine.  We saw the
spark of attraction in each other, knowing the
days of flaunting it were over.  But for a
moment they felt the electric charge of opposites
attracting, one of the most precious,beautiful
feelings in life.
   
   Last week I saw an oral surgeon for a consultation
   about a problem tooth. He's about 10 years younger
   than me, very attractive, and to my surprise I found
   he was ogling me--and I ogled back. The mutual ogling
   was quite appropriate, I should add, all in the
   context of discussing how he was going to fix my
   tooth. But the spark of attraction you describe was
   unmistakable, even in that distinctly unromantic
   context.
   
   I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but
   not so often by younger men, so this encounter was
   a nice ego boost.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
   I still get ogled by men my own age and older, but
   not so often by younger men, so this encounter was
   a nice ego boost.
  
  As is the case with most woman as they get older, 
  nothing wrong with feeling flattered (especially if
  you weren't looking for it) though I think it's
  important to remember that your true self esteem and
  happiness come from your own sterling character (or
  conversely, lack of it) and not so much from your
  physical appearance, after all it is only the most
  exterior and objective part of your true self.
  
  True self-esteem and happiness come from seeing
  yourself in the eyes of God and/or scripture and
  knowing you are following those guidelines
  successfully.  Once you transgress the boundaries of
  ethical or moral living your self-esteem (and inner
  well being and happiness) suffers also, immediately.
 
 BillyG, you're going to asphyxiate yourself with your
 own stuffiness.

I don't think so Judy, remember MMY said, structure upholds freedom.
 Scripture gives us structure and thereby freedom. I'm sorry if you
don't embrace the ideal beauty that can come from true love, where one
soul in is love with the other soul (not their body).

Emmanuel Swedenborg said that there is love for the sex and love
for ONE of the sex, the ideal love is love for ONE of the sex. Love
for sex in general is a common love and essentially lust.



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:


 Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed
 in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you
 consider flaunting it. 

Have you been to the mall lately?





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 Taliban Billy

You have outdone yourself Raunchy!


 
 Taliban Billy walked down the street
 Avoiding hot women asking to meet
 
 He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen
 Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in
 
 Guilty projection not owning eschewing 
 Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing
 
 The women just laughed chiding his fears
 Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres
 
 Proudly they swayed from east to the west
 An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts
 
 Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming
 Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming
 
 It's hard to ignore sexual attraction
 Until aged libido doesn't get action
 
 Don't blame the women for doing their best
 To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test
 
 Covering modestly is much overrated
 Women you see, have long liberated
 
 Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can
 Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man
 
 raunchydog
 
 
 In honor of liberated women:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv
 
 Bread and Roses
 
 As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day,
 A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray,
 Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses,
 For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses!
 
 As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men,
 For they are women's children, and we mother them again.
 Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
 Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses.
 
 As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead
 Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread.
 Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew.
 Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too.
 
 As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days,
 The rising of the women means the rising of the race.
 No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes,
 But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses.
 Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
 Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:


 Maybe he's a gasper.

You little pest! Scram..





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Taliban Billy
 
 You have outdone yourself Raunchy!

Thanks. I can assure you, I had more fun getting into Billy's head
than he will every have getting into anyone's pants. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
 
  Give me a link to a picture of a woman who is in public and is dressed
  in this manor you find so repulsive. I would like to see what you
  consider flaunting it. 
 
 Have you been to the mall lately?

Guess it sucks to be you.  Good luck with your choice of filters.

But I do want to mention that within your virtue  lies deceit:

Your snip:

Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for
now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious
beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!)

You snipped this quote dishonestly to manufacture your point.  Here is
what I said:

 But for a moment they
 felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most
 precious,beautiful feelings in life.

Changing my one of the to the was a dirty trick Billy.  I call you
on your dishonest intentions in misrepresenting my point.  Like so
many religo-maniacs your relationship with the truth is a self-serving
one.  






 I just played a gig at a nursing home and I got major ogled. With my
 gray streaks in my hair I was a young chicken to these ladies, and
 when I sang my blues full of innuendo and life, their eyes sparkled as
 they caught mine. We saw the spark of attraction in each other,
 knowing the days of flaunting it were over. But for a moment they
 felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most
 precious,beautiful feelings in life.

Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for
now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious
beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!)









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

Well, that made it an absolute must see for
me, so I downloaded it and watched it. And I
must say that in general the reviewers were
right, but that it had redeeming qualities.
One of them was Miro Sorvino, as an Indiana
Jones-like archeologist, walking about in her
Manolo Blahniks.

Yes, they made her already-attractive legs
look great. But yes, they probably were worse
as a form of torture than tossing Indy into
a vat full of snakes.  :-)

I'm with both Curtis and you on the subject
of women playing dress-up. I truly appreciate
the lengths they go to to look attractive,
and often succeed. At the same time, I thought
that Mira Sorvino looked just as hot in her
archeology togs. I'm sure you look fetching
in sweats, with or without the Manolos.


Barry, I've read that shoes are so pointed now, and
so small, that women are actually having surgery
to remove their little toe so they can fit.

This is the stuff of horror movies.  And what
kind of a surgeon would do that anyway? We
have a seriously sick culture.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
  
   Taliban Billy
  
  You have outdone yourself Raunchy!
 
 Thanks. I can assure you, I had more fun getting into Billy's head
 than he will every have getting into anyone's pants.

Ha, ha, ha.actually the Taliban is one extreme and Western culture
is the other!




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Taliban Billy
 
 You have outdone yourself Raunchy!

Speaking as someone who has not always 
appreciated your poetry, I agree. Well
done.

  Taliban Billy walked down the street
  Avoiding hot women asking to meet
  
  He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen
  Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in
  
  Guilty projection not owning eschewing 
  Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing
  
  The women just laughed chiding his fears
  Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres
  
  Proudly they swayed from east to the west
  An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts
  
  Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming
  Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming
  
  It's hard to ignore sexual attraction
  Until aged libido doesn't get action
  
  Don't blame the women for doing their best
  To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test
  
  Covering modestly is much overrated
  Women you see, have long liberated
  
  Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can
  Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man
  
  raunchydog
  
  
  In honor of liberated women:
  
  http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv
  
  Bread and Roses
  
  As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day,
  A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray,
  Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses,
  For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses!
  
  As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men,
  For they are women's children, and we mother them again.
  Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
  Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses.
  
  As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead
  Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread.
  Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew.
  Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too.
  
  As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days,
  The rising of the women means the rising of the race.
  No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes,
  But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses.
  Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
  Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:32 AM, do.rflex wrote:


The shoe monument, made of fiberglass and coated with copper, consists
of the shoe and a concrete base. The entire monument is 3.5 meters
(11.5 feet) high. The shoe is 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) long and 1.5
meters (4.9 feet) wide.

The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure -- unveiled
Tuesday -- in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage
director.

Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were
the victims of Bush's war, al-Naseri said. The shoe monument is a
gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the
journalist.


If the shoe fits...
How entirely appropriate.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:


 Your snip:
 
 Yeah Curtis your best days are behind you, not much left to live for
 now, no more flaunting it, boy you're gonna miss the most precious
 beautiful feelings in life! (pssst. How pathetic!)
 
 You snipped this quote dishonestly to manufacture your point.  Here is
 what I said:
 
  But for a moment they
  felt the electric charge of opposites attracting, one of the most
  precious,beautiful feelings in life.
 
 Changing my one of the to the was a dirty trick Billy.  I call you
 on your dishonest intentions in misrepresenting my point.  Like so
 many religo-maniacs your relationship with the truth is a self-serving
 one. 
 
UnintentionallyI guess there's still hope for you afterall!  :-)
Though you still sound like a 'beggar on the street of time'.  :-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:


There is nothing to compare with the superior bliss of spirit.


Billy, how long has it been?  Really, years or decades now?

Think maybe it's time to break the dry spell?

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Control

2009-01-31 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Control... 

Control in martial arts is managing internal energies 
in adversity. According to Sensei Randall Bassett, 
Self Defense, in its purest form, largely consists of 
obtaining an insight into the limitations of force as 
a way of resolving human conflict: 

The path to self-power is more than a quest 
for bodily survival; it is the quest for 
identity and authentic free will. - Randall Bassett

What makes this book unique and kept it on my shelf 
for more than 20 years was the also eclectic discussion 
on what amounts to self control tactics and the 
acquisition of a different concept of self defense: 
defense begins in the mind... - H. Asbury

Amazon Review:

'Zen Karate'
by Randall Bassett
Warner Books, 1975 
http://tinyurl.com/bgdhbw

It is an almost innate propensity of the human mind to 
equate smallness with insignificance. This propensity 
induces us to believe that nothing of real value may be 
gained from learning to work with spans of attention 
whose duration tends to be quite small. 

Thus without realizing it, we come to overlook one of 
the most basic principles, namely, that the capacity to 
exert absolute attention at critical moments can succeed 
in turning even the span of a fraction of a second into 
an event of immense personal significance. 

Read more:

Subject: TM and Self Defense
Author: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: November 11, 2000
http://tinyurl.com/atvcg2



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 Barry, I've read that shoes are so pointed now, and
 so small, that women are actually having surgery
 to remove their little toe so they can fit.
 
 This is the stuff of horror movies.  And what
 kind of a surgeon would do that anyway? We
 have a seriously sick culture.
 
 Sal

Need I say more!!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Computer Upgrade? Question for the Geeks

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

snip 
 This computer doesn't multi-task well. Apps often bog
 each other down, such that everything runs slowly. MS 
 Outlook is one of the biggest culprits. It takes an 
 unbelievably long time to check email, it's hard to
 use Outlook while it's being checked, and other 
 applications are compromised during the process.

Nothing geekish to contribute, but I've read a
couple of ecstatic reviews of GMail's new offline
feature, e.g.:

Slate's Farhad Manjoo, How GMail Destroyed Outlook:

http://www.slate.com/id/2210090/

James Fallows's blog (not really a review,
but an expression of excitement at the
prospect):

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/big_news_on_the_p
ersonal_tech.php

http://tinyurl.com/detbyw 

A followup post quoting an email from someone
who just started using it:

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/offline_gmail_ins
tant_user_rep.php

http://tinyurl.com/awywz7

FWIW, I use Eudora, and gobs of archived mail
doesn't seem to slow it down as long as it's
stored in folders rather than the Inbox or
Outbox. I don't put anywhere near the demands 
on my machine that you do on yours, but I've
seen that complaint about Outlook from all
kinds of users.

(But if you don't travel enough to require a
good Web email account, I can't quite figure out
what the advantage is of offline GMail over a
speedy desktop email client like Eudora.)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


Really?  His senses are awake and he is looking for morsels of delight
everywhere.  I do associate a person's approach to food with their
commitment to living in their senses.  Food is a sensual choice we
make a few times a day.  It is very revealing.  Same with the music a
person chooses or what hangs on their walls.


Great topic for discussion, Curtis.


And despite the over the top comedy of Raunchy's food flirting flick,
I learn a lot about how a woman will be intimately by watching her
eat.


Tell us more.


Food is life to me.  It needs to be savored not rushed.


Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Kirk
Hey my wife is asking me what is that they say about women again, they taste 
like fish or chicken?  Or is it fish or beef? She wants to know. I said it 
depends on time of month with her tasing like burger wrapped in newspaper 
once a month for awhile which I like just fine. Though it's sloppy.  I 
wouldn't mind the fish and chips effect either if such were the case, but I 
think I got me some white meat chicken. But really how does that go again? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Marek Reavis
Severe Punishment.  [Only tangentially related to this thread.]

http://tinyurl.com/beh26z




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Kirk
 Curtis, When you mention food in connection with a spark of attraction
 between the sexes, I couldn't help but think of the movie Tom Jones
 and the lusty eating scene. http://tinyurl.com/3432pe Enjoy.


-When you mention eating in the movies I can't help but flash on the bar 
scene in Twin Peaks - Fire Walk. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: -Liberated- Iraqis Give Bush His Monument

2009-01-31 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:32 AM, do.rflex wrote:
 
  The shoe monument, made of fiberglass and coated with copper, consists
  of the shoe and a concrete base. The entire monument is 3.5 meters
  (11.5 feet) high. The shoe is 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) long and 1.5
  meters (4.9 feet) wide.
 
  The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure -- unveiled
  Tuesday -- in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage
  director.
 
  Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were
  the victims of Bush's war, al-Naseri said. The shoe monument is a
  gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the
  journalist.
 
 If the shoe fits...
 How entirely appropriate.
 
 Sal


This is a farewell kiss from the Iraqi people, you dog, yelled
al-Zaidi in Arabic as he threw his first shoe towards the U.S. president. 

--- This is for the widows and orphans and all those killed in Iraq,
he shouted as he threw his second shoe. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7782422.stm















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-31 Thread Kirk
Thanks for your alternating comments. I read them. Not sure what to say except, 
Oh Yeah, you live in Scotland, truely a mystical place I wish to check out 
someday since I have a good amount of Scottish in me. My Grandfather was in 
Scottish Military horseback and kilts and all. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: off_world_beings 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:32 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment


  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
  
   


[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:

 Thanks for your alternating comments. I read them.
 Not sure what to say except, Oh Yeah, you live in
 Scotland, truely a mystical place I wish to check
 out someday since I have a good amount of Scottish
 in me. My Grandfather was in Scottish Military
 horseback and kilts and all. 

On horseback in kilts?

Ouch!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


So what I guess I'm asking is whether UC is going
to fuck with your ability to go to Home Depot. I
mean, here's you'll be, walking along in UC, and
some hottie wearing a short skirt and Manolo
Blahniks and too much makeup comes click-clicking
down the aisle towards you. And you'll look at her,
and using the everyday perception of UC, you'll
see her at *yourself*, and both of you as God. And
then you'll realize that what you're seeing this
in is a [said with disgust] *body*. With cooties.

Isn't this going to fuck up your ability to be so
moralistic and look down on her as lesser than
yourself? That could be traumatic. To preserve your
equanimity, I recommend that you avoid attaining
enlightenment at all costs.


Or at least avoid going to Home Depot.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
  Really?  His senses are awake and he is looking for morsels of 
  delight everywhere. I do associate a person's approach to food 
  with their commitment to living in their senses.  Food is a 
  sensual choice we make a few times a day. It is very revealing.
  Same with the music a person chooses or what hangs on their walls.
 
 Great topic for discussion, Curtis.
 
  And despite the over the top comedy of Raunchy's food flirting 
  flick, I learn a lot about how a woman will be intimately by 
  watching her eat.
 
 Tell us more.

I'm not Curtis, but I completely agree with his
comment above. 

I'm a slow eater. I like to linger over my food
and wine, and savor it. Thus, on dates, I often
notice that my companion has finished her meal
while I'm only halfway through with mine. When 
this happens, experience has shown me that that
is what she'll be like in bed, too.

Do you remember the sex scene in Network, the
one in which Faye Dunaway rushes through it to
her own orgasm and then, ignoring the guy and the 
fact that he's barely started, starts talking 
incessantly about her desire to write a lesbian 
TV soap opera? Need I say more?  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-31 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote:
 
  Thanks for your alternating comments. I read them.
  Not sure what to say except, Oh Yeah, you live in
  Scotland, truely a mystical place I wish to check
  out someday since I have a good amount of Scottish
  in me. My Grandfather was in Scottish Military
  horseback and kilts and all.

 On horseback in kilts?

 Ouch!




WHAT'S UNDER YOUR KILT?

*  A wee set of pipes.
* On a good day, lipstick.
* How warm are your hands?
* An airport...2 hangers and a fighter
  [http://z.hubpages.com/u/4521_f260.jpg]




[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis,

I'm going to go against type here.  My type is that, herein at FFL,
I'm probably thought to be in Billy's camp in at least several minds
here.  So, in keeping with my New Year's resolution to be sweeter,
kinder and more necessary, I'll plead for Billy, plead for me, plead
for you.

Billy's, er ahem, whacking at a block of stone -- perhaps he sees
himself as Michelangelo -- as he tries to, er ahem, unveil a hidden
pure virgin in the granite.  Sounds like naughty fun!

Billy, how do you see the final statue?  Clothed I would assume. 
Sorrowful countenance like Mary's in the Pieta?  Or, perhaps she's
ecstatically entranced with divine shakti, eyes heavenward with arms
stretched longingly to Big Daddy?  I'm serious!  Can you tell us?  

I'm trying to see the whole Billy -- not just his snake trunk or tree
legs or fan ears or wall sides or rope tail. 

Billy seems to have an ideal woman in mind -- a person who's
personality would be, to him, close to that which he projects to dwell
inside, say, the Mother Divine ladies.  So far, he's allowed to do
this in my book.  No problem with having an ideal that's cobbled by
imagination from a cherry picking of a data set that's been
artificially amassed.

Hell, I do that 108 times a day!  I'm a data gobbling fool!

He may be merely assembling the good stuff and leaving out all the bad
stuff that also comes with your standard issue yinyangy woman.  All
the bad stuff, Billy sees in clicker-chicks in Home Depot, and the
good stuff is assumed to be only available to those women who have
purified themselves of clickingness with the fires of knowledge yada
yada.  

Never met a one-sided woman yet, but Billy's allowed to think this way
if you ask me.

It's his freakin' nervous system, ya know? 

Who doesn't have their parts that are but barely kept on leashes and
are tugging at our souls constantly to piss on something?  Inner-dogs
R Us.  

And as Byron Katie et al would remind us: turn it around.  Why is
there Billy-angst in our minds when all of infinity's cornucopia 
calls to us?  Can we own where our attentions reside?  I mean, if
Billy's whips can sting us into having a parochial gaze and can get us
to color his presentation with a dark veneer -- that intent on our
part is our real problem, eh?  Do we delude ourselves?  Is Billy a
straw dog we happily have attracted to FFL just so we have a target
for our, what?, hippy-moral-freedom-guns to aim at?

And, I have no problem with Billy going around spewing this POV,
because, hey, really now, hasn't the world proved to be overwhelmingly
powerful in honing all of us with an exacting precision?  Haven't all
of us had huge chunks of belief, dogma, and negativities of every kind
lopped off of us by goodly smacks and whacks to the max?  Do you think
Billy's getting off the hook and that we have to become agencies of
purity who must teach him?

Billy's life cannot have been immune to yagya lessons, and if he's not
yet been relieved of his BURDEN of being so easily triggered by public
sensuality being displayed in life -- still I am CERTAIN that he's
been processed as thoroughly as I have by life's  cognitive
chiselers out there.  Whatever Billy may lack in our estimations might
be astoundingly balanced by giant steps he's taken in other
departments of his psyche.  We know not what he's felt with each step
in his moccasins.  For starters, we know not who primed his pump when
he was in diapers, eh?

I've been all that Billy's been, and I would not easily volunteer to
be deconstructed by God to compare my life to Billy's.

I think the world will take care of Billy.  Billy's no Bush with the
whole of America's power-to-harm to use.  His missiles have almost no
range or power, and the person next to him is about all he can hope to
hit.  His podium here is but one of 1200 podiums from which dozens are
shouting to the crowd herein. His voice cannot garner much attention
from this group of arid minds.  

Or does he?  To the extent he reaches us, pulls some chain in us, he
helps reveal our own attachments, no?  And that's a potent set of
white teeth Billy's got, eh?  

Dead dog nips -- not your worst way to start a day.  Maybe Billy
deserves a doggy treat.

If Billy is espousing a Hindu POV and is comfortable with the idea
that Guru Dev wanted all the ladies to be seated in one part of his
audience to keep them separate from the guys so that they would, you
know, not be wriggling in their seats every now and then and, you
know, slightly snuggling into their dudes by mistake, and, you know,
forcing these good hearted knights of enlightenment into attending to
the carnality-incarnate package of delights throbbing next door to
them instead of Guru Dev, then that's Billy's right!  If there's
anything wrong with it, his denial processes can only hold the
sculptor's truth at bay for, what?, a mere lifetime?  

Sooner or later, Billy'll be honed if honing is deserved, but let us
all hope that our lack of compassion for Billy's addictions 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 I'm a slow eater. I like to linger over my food
 and wine, and savor it. Thus, on dates, I often
 notice that my companion has finished her meal
 while I'm only halfway through with mine. When 
 this happens, experience has shown me that that
 is what she'll be like in bed, too.

What if she wants a second helping?

Or waits politely until you've finished
and then asks for a fancy dessert, coffee,
and brandy?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


So you start Sal.  What are your signals about a person's
compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them, food
related or otherwise.


Small things, usually. What they're interested in.
Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated
in about a thousand different ways.  Actually,
those aren't such small things, are they?
I guess what I mean is how they relate to me
in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa.
Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm
not sure how or how much.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

So you start Sal.  What are your signals about a person's
compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them,  
food

related or otherwise.


Small things, usually. What they're interested in.
Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated
in about a thousand different ways.  Actually,
those aren't such small things, are they?
I guess what I mean is how they relate to me
in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa.
Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm
not sure how or how much.


Oh, yeah, and sense of humor.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
  So you start Sal.  What are your signals about a person's
  compatibility and character that you use as you get to know them, food
  related or otherwise.
 
 Small things, usually. What they're interested in.
 Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated
 in about a thousand different ways.  Actually,
 those aren't such small things, are they?
 I guess what I mean is how they relate to me
 in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa.
 Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm
 not sure how or how much.
 
 Sal

It boils down to compatibility for me too.  There are signs. I'm a fan
of the waiter test.  She how she deals with the waiter on your first
dates. Obviously if she gets angry at a person in a position of
service that is a bad sign.  It is also revealing if she can ask them
for what she wants and get them to get it in a pleasant manor.  I have
to be with a person who treats people kindly, but can be assertive and
expressive enough to get their needs met.  I don't want to hear after
the meal that she hated it but couldn't ask for more whatever that
she needed to enjoy her meal.

I pretty much know if I don't see any books at her place that this is
not going to be a match.  She doesn't have to be into the same music I
am, but it is an alert if she has no musical opinions or preferences.

And the food thing...my first dates were usually to a Vietnamese dive
that serves amazing food.  They know how to singe the pork to
caramelize it with just a touch of blacked bitter spots without drying
out the center.  (They do the same with Tofu for vegetarian dates.) It
takes a cook who cares enough to get it right.  I take a lettuce leaf
and put in a little vermicelli noodles, a bit of pork, a spoon of fish
sauce based dipping sauce, a leaf or two of mint, wrap it up and hand
it across the table.  The woman I've been with the last few years
closed her eyes and sunk all the way into one of the best flavor
balances found in cooking.  When her eyes opened again I knew she got
it!  It wasn't that we shared the same food tastes, it was how she was
able to embrace a new taste with complete abandon!

Because I am ravenously omnivorous, I can't expect my mate to match my
diverse tastes in food.  But I do need a person who knows that
familiarity is at the heart of our taste preferences. And it takes
very little exposure to make a foreign dishes become your own comfort
food in my experience.  They don't need to like everything I like,
but I need someone adventurous enough with food that they will try
something new.  This way of approaching food often maps across to
other choices in a person's life...

And now the deal killer list.  She can't be the kind of person who
will escalate unpleasantness to get what she wants when she knows it
is not what I choose.  If she attempts to bully me into doing
something I don't want to do, it is over.  I don't treat people in my
life that way and it is non-negotiable.  And the real sweethearts
never try because they care what I want.  And I do the same for them.
 It sounds obvious but if you have ever been in a relationship with a
person who violates this principle, you will understand. 

I hope others weigh in on this topic.  Nice call Sal. 
















[FairfieldLife] new tract from Jack Chick: Papa

2009-01-31 Thread yifuxero
http://www.ncane.com/nty



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Curtis,
 
 I'm going to go against type here.  My type is that, herein at FFL,
 I'm probably thought to be in Billy's camp in at least several minds
 here.  So, in keeping with my New Year's resolution to be sweeter,
 kinder and more necessary, I'll plead for Billy, plead for me, plead
 for you.
 
 Billy's, er ahem, whacking at a block of stone -- perhaps he sees
 himself as Michelangelo -- as he tries to, er ahem, unveil a hidden
 pure virgin in the granite.  Sounds like naughty fun!
 
 Billy, how do you see the final statue?  Clothed I would assume. 
 Sorrowful countenance like Mary's in the Pieta?  Or, perhaps she's
 ecstatically entranced with divine shakti, eyes heavenward with arms
 stretched longingly to Big Daddy?  I'm serious!  Can you tell us?  

Yes, the body would be entirely secondary to the clothing of the soul!
Yes?
 
 I'm trying to see the whole Billy -- not just his snake trunk or tree
 legs or fan ears or wall sides or rope tail. 
 
 Billy seems to have an ideal woman in mind -- a person who's
 personality would be, to him, close to that which he projects to dwell
 inside, say, the Mother Divine ladies.  So far, he's allowed to do
 this in my book.  No problem with having an ideal that's cobbled by
 imagination from a cherry picking of a data set that's been
 artificially amassed.

The ideal would be that which is Gods will, his plan, his show, his
family, his world and we as his servants.
 
 Hell, I do that 108 times a day!  I'm a data gobbling fool!
 
 He may be merely assembling the good stuff and leaving out all the bad
 stuff that also comes with your standard issue yinyangy woman.  All
 the bad stuff, Billy sees in clicker-chicks in Home Depot, and the
 good stuff is assumed to be only available to those women who have
 purified themselves of clickingness with the fires of knowledge yada
 yada.  

True marital love is so rare that its character is not known, and
scarcely that it exists...  Emanuel Swedenborg

 Never met a one-sided woman yet, but Billy's allowed to think this way
 if you ask me.
 
 It's his freakin' nervous system, ya know? 
 
 Who doesn't have their parts that are but barely kept on leashes and
 are tugging at our souls constantly to piss on something?  Inner-dogs
 R Us.  

Nicely and poetically (albeit blunt) put, it is the awareness of
henest acknowledgment of this eternal beatnik within that allows us
to confront it once and for all, and defeat it through the spiritual
disciplines, a veritable Armageddon.

 And as Byron Katie et al would remind us: turn it around.  Why is
 there Billy-angst in our minds when all of infinity's cornucopia 
 calls to us?  Can we own where our attentions reside?  I mean, if
 Billy's whips can sting us into having a parochial gaze and can get us
 to color his presentation with a dark veneer -- that intent on our
 part is our real problem, eh?  Do we delude ourselves?  Is Billy a
 straw dog we happily have attracted to FFL just so we have a target
 for our, what?, hippy-moral-freedom-guns to aim at?

Whoa...I think you may have hit the nail on the head! Is sexual
'freedom' their cherished 'precious'?
 
 And, I have no problem with Billy going around spewing this POV,
 because, hey, really now, hasn't the world proved to be overwhelmingly
 powerful in honing all of us with an exacting precision?  Haven't all
 of us had huge chunks of belief, dogma, and negativities of every kind
 lopped off of us by goodly smacks and whacks to the max?  Do you think
 Billy's getting off the hook and that we have to become agencies of
 purity who must teach him?

Yes, he must be chastened, as he threatens to expose our own hidden
repressed, *hidden Billy*.
 
 Billy's life cannot have been immune to yagya lessons, and if he's not
 yet been relieved of his BURDEN of being so easily triggered by public
 sensuality being displayed in life -- still I am CERTAIN that he's
 been processed as thoroughly as I have by life's  cognitive
 chiselers out there.  Whatever Billy may lack in our estimations might
 be astoundingly balanced by giant steps he's taken in other
 departments of his psyche.  We know not what he's felt with each step
 in his moccasins.  For starters, we know not who primed his pump when
 he was in diapers, eh?

Nor have most of us been relieved by our burden of sexual proclivity,
only the man (using Turq's term) in UC relieved of even the incentive
of desire.


 I've been all that Billy's been, and I would not easily volunteer to
 be deconstructed by God to compare my life to Billy's.
 
 I think the world will take care of Billy.  Billy's no Bush with the
 whole of America's power-to-harm to use.  His missiles have almost no
 range or power, and the person next to him is about all he can hope to
 hit.  His podium here is but one of 1200 podiums from which dozens are
 shouting to the crowd herein. His voice cannot garner much attention
 from this group of arid minds.  


[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 It boils down to compatibility for me too.  There are signs. 
 I'm a fan of the waiter test. See how she deals with the 
 waiter on your first dates. Obviously if she gets angry at 
 a person in a position of service that is a bad sign. 

Absolutely. One of the big reveals, and where
people of either sex often lose my interest, is
how they treat people in the service professions.
If they don't consider these people their equals,
they don't consider me their equal.

 I pretty much know if I don't see any books at her place 
 that this is not going to be a match. She doesn't have to 
 be into the same music I am, but it is an alert if she has 
 no musical opinions or preferences.

Another big reveal is when she comes over to 
your place for the first time. Does she *look*
at the books on the bookcases, or browse through
your CDs and movies? If not, it's not going to
last, because either she is not interested in
those things, or she's not interested in you.

 And now the deal killer list. 

My kinda thread. :-)

 She can't be the kind of person who will escalate unpleasantness 
 to get what she wants when she knows it is not what I choose.  

Absolutely. But I would have left off the part
after unpleasantness. While this is less true
in cyberspace because of the flaming phenom-
enon, if a person feels the need to escalate
issues with other people into shouting matches 
or power battles in real life, she's outa there. 

 If she attempts to bully me into doing something I don't want 
 to do, it is over.  

I extend this to trying to bully her way into my
attention. One of my big tests of whether the
relationship is going to go anywhere is to take
the woman on a Road Trip with me. Many women are
probably aware that this is a kind of test for
me, and are thinking that it has to do with whether
she'll share my bed when we get to the destination.
It's not. The test is whether she feels the need
to fill every moment of the auto journey with words.

If she is unable to STFU and just listen to music
for long periods of the drive, or just groove on
the silence, we're not going to get along long-term.

 I don't treat people in my life that way and it is non-negotiable.

Again, agreed. Petty tyrants need not apply, and it
does NOT have to do with them only trying to bully
me. It's whether they bully *anyone*. Especially
the waiter. :-)

More tests:

* Movies -- I invite her over, fix her a good meal,
and show her one of my favorite movies of all time,
one that she's not likely to have heard of before.
Something like Don Juan de Marco, which you either
get or you don't. If she doesn't -- warning flag goes
up. And even better test for me, if the woman has
long-term potential, is to break her Firefly and
Serenity cherry. Most people haven't heard of this
TV series and movie, so it's an interesting test to
see how they react. If she can't get Captain Tight
Pants and his crew of misfits, she's never going to
get me.

* Mix CDs -- I admit it. I am the most guy of guys
in this respect. Music, and especially my relationship
with great songwriters and their lyrics, is a Big One
for me. She need not like what I like, but if she 
can't see what *I* like in it, that's another warning
flag. 

* Manners -- Especially in regard to phone sex. By
that I mean, when we're out together in the early days
of dating, does she take incoming phone calls at the
dinner table? Unless she's a surgeon or it's the baby-
sitter calling about her seriously ill child, taking
five phone calls before dinner is over in an attempt
to show me how popular she is is probably going to 
result in me allowing her to be popular with the 
callers, not me.

* Flirting -- OK, this is a tough one to admit. But I'm 
enough of a rehabilitated lecher to know that spending
half of one's date checkin' out or flirting with other
women is rude. I notice when it's done to me. 

* Guinneviere Syndrome -- A subset of the Flirting cate-
gory above. If the woman attempts to arouse my interest
by flirting with other guys on *our* date, or worse,
tries to get me to compete with them for her favors,
I'm likely to give her cab fare and leave her there and
go home alone. I've done exactly that more than once. I 
*understand* the sometimes primal need to know that
your man cares about you enough to fight for you, but
I really prefer women who wait for that to be proved
in a mugging, not at every cocktail party.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... 
wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
 
 
  On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
  So you start Sal.  What are your signals about a
  person's compatibility and character that you use as
  you get to know them, food related or otherwise.
 
  Small things, usually. What they're interested in.
  Interest in what I'm doing, can be indicated
  in about a thousand different ways.  Actually,
  those aren't such small things, are they?
  I guess what I mean is how they relate to me
  in seemingly small ways, and vice-versa.
  Music and food tastes do play a part, but I'm
  not sure how or how much.
 
 Oh, yeah, and sense of humor.

In order of importance for me:

1.  Sense of humor
2.  Sense of humor
3.  Sense of humor
4.  Intelligence
5.  Is interactive* in conversation
6.  Interested in current affairs
7.  Not a bigot
8.  Classical music lover**
9.  Decent hygiene
10. Not preoccupied with money
11. Not such a highbrow he can't appreciate
high-quality lowbrow stuff


* Interested in and responsive to what I say, not
  just what he has to say.
**Any other kind of favorite music OK as long as
  he loves classical. Adoration of Bach a big plus.
  Needs to be moderately savvy about performance.

Taste in food is near the bottom of my list. Food
fanaticism of whatever kind is a turnoff. Broad
tastes are nice, but not a requirement.




[FairfieldLife] Social Security - A Ponzi Scheme?

2009-01-31 Thread arhatafreespeech
Too many old Farts???   
01/31/09  * S. S. -- A PONZI SCHEME WITHIN A PONZI SCHEME

http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@...
wrote:

 Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu tradition re 
 the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali.  All the elements that make up that 
 image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy of 
 Mother nature.

I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. Mother
Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many
times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only Spirit
is eternal, never changing and secure.
 
 Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of all 
 that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form.  I don't 
 remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be interested 
 in your sense and feelings re that form.

In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to stay away from my fearful world
of changefullness, I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and
identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of
Maya (nature).

 I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand and 
 appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living to 
 one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the 
 subject.  

The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant,
realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Marek




[FairfieldLife] Dave's Telepathic Web Site

2009-01-31 Thread Richard M
http://tinyurl.com/bc86wv



[FairfieldLife] Lie To Me

2009-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
My brother turned me on to a new TV series in the US,
thinking I might like it. He's knows me well.

He described it as a series starring Tim Roth about a
group of people who specialize in how to tell when a
human being is lying. (According to a statistic in the
first episode, the average human being tells three lies 
every ten minutes.) He had me at Tim Roth. I think
he's been marvelous in almost everything he's been in,
and was more than willing to give him a shot at doing
the same thing in a weekly TV series.

Good call. It's actually pretty interesting IMO. There
is no oogabooga or X-Files psychic weirdness about how
they tell that people are lying; it's all about the
physical tells that people display when they lie. The
eyes don't crinkle up in a fake smile, but they do in
a real one. Does the person look away from you when you
ask them something, as if they were having to think about 
it, or do they continue to look you straight in the eye, 
as if they've already prepared a script for the answer? 
When they tell a story that involves a sequence of actions, 
can they relate the same sequence of actions in reverse? 
(Liars rehearse the script in order in their heads, and 
tend not to be able to relate it backwards.) 

As expected, Tim Roth is excellent. So is Kelli Williams,
as his associate and sidekick in the consulting firm.
She's a junk food junkie who is almost as good at telling
when other people are lying as he is, but who can't tell
when her own husband is lying to her. Another interesting
character is the newbie in the firm, a woman recruited
from the ranks of airport security guards because she had
a 95% rate of being right in challenging suspicious flyers. 
And the fourth wheel in the firm and in the cast is an 
employee who has an affliction that compels him to always 
tell the truth. He presents an interesting contrast to 
these people who make their living telling when others 
are lying, but who lie all the time themselves.

Fascinating series IMO. Teaches me a lot about the ways
that I determine whether someone is lying to me, but never
knew consciously. Also fascinating because it delves into
the *reasons* why people lie, which are not always a 
Bad Thing.

All in all, it's a weekly reminder that sometimes we're
probably better off not knowing when those around us are
lying to us. Three lies every ten minutes, and all that...





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant,
 realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO.

Let's see if I have this right.

You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the
thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one?  And
happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily
available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before
people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into
books and then translated into a language you could understand?

That you have the ability to understand this being's will?  The
creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will?  Your human
mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and
translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God?  And that
your birth language just happens to be able to convey through
translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God?

Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand
his will but to carry it out in this world?

And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is
IMHO, your HUMBLE opinion?

I don't think you understand what the term humble means.

The claim that you know what living according to God's will means or
are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many
concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa
Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy
religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility.

For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in
the following phrase:

We don't know. 
 
 



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
 wrote:
 
  Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu
tradition re 
  the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali.  All the elements that make up
that 
  image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy of 
  Mother nature.
 
 I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. Mother
 Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many
 times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only Spirit
 is eternal, never changing and secure.
  
  Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of all 
  that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form.  I don't 
  remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be interested 
  in your sense and feelings re that form.
 
 In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to stay away from my fearful world
 of changefullness, I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and
 identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of
 Maya (nature).
 
  I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand and 
  appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living to 
  one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the 
  subject.  
 
 The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant,
 realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Marek





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread John
Billy Taliban has a ring to it.  You should collect all of the poems 
you've written on this forum and publish it.  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ 
wrote:
 
  Taliban Billy
 
 You have outdone yourself Raunchy!
 
 
  
  Taliban Billy walked down the street
  Avoiding hot women asking to meet
  
  He hurled invectives of temptress and vixen
  Holding back jissom and keeping his dick in
  
  Guilty projection not owning eschewing 
  Averting his eyes, he feigns ballyhooing
  
  The women just laughed chiding his fears
  Donning up-lifting lacy brassieres
  
  Proudly they swayed from east to the west
  An army of boob bobbing busty big breasts
  
  Taliban Billy in horror ran screaming
  Panicked his jeans soon he'd be creaming
  
  It's hard to ignore sexual attraction
  Until aged libido doesn't get action
  
  Don't blame the women for doing their best
  To look hot for he-men and pass the femme test
  
  Covering modestly is much overrated
  Women you see, have long liberated
  
  Women! Feel sexy, enjoy what you can
  Hunt like you mean it then stand by your man
  
  raunchydog
  
  
  In honor of liberated women:
  
  http://tinyurl.com/dgvbuv
  
  Bread and Roses
  
  As we go marching, marching, in the beauty of the day,
  A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray,
  Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses,
  For the people hear us singing: Bread and Roses! Bread and Roses!
  
  As we go marching, marching, we battle too for men,
  For they are women's children, and we mother them again.
  Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
  Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses.
  
  As we go marching, marching, unnumbered women dead
  Go crying through our singing their ancient call for bread.
  Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew.
  Yes, it is bread we fight for, but we fight for roses too.
  
  As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days,
  The rising of the women means the rising of the race.
  No more the drudge and idler, ten that toil where one reposes,
  But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses, bread and roses.
  Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
  Hearts starve as well as bodies; bread and roses, bread and roses.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant,
  realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO.
 
 Let's see if I have this right.
 
 You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the
 thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one?  And
 happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily
 available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before
 people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into
 books and then translated into a language you could understand?
 
 That you have the ability to understand this being's will?  The
 creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will?  Your human
 mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and
 translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God?  And that
 your birth language just happens to be able to convey through
 translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God?
 
 Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand
 his will but to carry it out in this world?
 
 And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is
 IMHO, your HUMBLE opinion?
 
 I don't think you understand what the term humble means.
 
 The claim that you know what living according to God's will means or
 are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many
 concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa
 Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy
 religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility.
 
 For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in
 the following phrase:
 
 We don't know. 

I think Edg put it best if he doesn't mind me quoting him here:

And Billy's being outside us should be seen as a clanging a gong that
peals the news that he's also found inside us, or we would never have
IDENTIFIED HIM OUT THEREflown into him, labeled him, targeted him.
If there's a problem with Billy outside, how much more of a problem
must we have with our inner Billy?

Nicely put Edg/Duveyoung!!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Lie To Me

2009-01-31 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 My brother turned me on to a new TV series in the US,
 thinking I might like it. He's knows me well.

 He described it as a series starring Tim Roth about a
 group of people who specialize in how to tell when a
 human being is lying. (According to a statistic in the
 first episode, the average human being tells three lies 
 every ten minutes.) He had me at Tim Roth. I think
 he's been marvelous in almost everything he's been in,
 and was more than willing to give him a shot at doing
 the same thing in a weekly TV series.

 Good call. It's actually pretty interesting IMO. There
 is no oogabooga or X-Files psychic weirdness about how
 they tell that people are lying; it's all about the
 physical tells that people display when they lie. The
 eyes don't crinkle up in a fake smile, but they do in
 a real one. Does the person look away from you when you
 ask them something, as if they were having to think about 
 it, or do they continue to look you straight in the eye, 
 as if they've already prepared a script for the answer? 
 When they tell a story that involves a sequence of actions, 
 can they relate the same sequence of actions in reverse? 
 (Liars rehearse the script in order in their heads, and 
 tend not to be able to relate it backwards.) 

 As expected, Tim Roth is excellent. So is Kelli Williams,
 as his associate and sidekick in the consulting firm.
 She's a junk food junkie who is almost as good at telling
 when other people are lying as he is, but who can't tell
 when her own husband is lying to her. Another interesting
 character is the newbie in the firm, a woman recruited
 from the ranks of airport security guards because she had
 a 95% rate of being right in challenging suspicious flyers. 
 And the fourth wheel in the firm and in the cast is an 
 employee who has an affliction that compels him to always 
 tell the truth. He presents an interesting contrast to 
 these people who make their living telling when others 
 are lying, but who lie all the time themselves.

 Fascinating series IMO. Teaches me a lot about the ways
 that I determine whether someone is lying to me, but never
 knew consciously. Also fascinating because it delves into
 the *reasons* why people lie, which are not always a 
 Bad Thing.

 All in all, it's a weekly reminder that sometimes we're
 probably better off not knowing when those around us are
 lying to us. Three lies every ten minutes, and all that...
I turned it off after about 20 minutes.  Too formulaic.   It did not 
fair well with other viewers either.  And I don't like the promotion of 
police state tactics.  Now that BushCo is gone we need to move away from 
that mindset.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:21 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


It boils down to compatibility for me too.  There are signs. I'm a fan
of the waiter test.  She how she deals with the waiter on your first
dates. Obviously if she gets angry at a person in a position of
service that is a bad sign.  It is also revealing if she can ask them
for what she wants and get them to get it in a pleasant manor.  I have
to be with a person who treats people kindly, but can be assertive and
expressive enough to get their needs met.  I don't want to hear after
the meal that she hated it but couldn't ask for more whatever that
she needed to enjoy her meal.

I pretty much know if I don't see any books at her place that this is
not going to be a match.  She doesn't have to be into the same music I
am, but it is an alert if she has no musical opinions or preferences.

And the food thing...my first dates were usually to a Vietnamese dive
that serves amazing food.  They know how to singe the pork to
caramelize it with just a touch of blacked bitter spots without drying
out the center.  (They do the same with Tofu for vegetarian dates.) It
takes a cook who cares enough to get it right.  I take a lettuce leaf
and put in a little vermicelli noodles, a bit of pork, a spoon of fish
sauce based dipping sauce, a leaf or two of mint, wrap it up and hand
it across the table.  The woman I've been with the last few years
closed her eyes and sunk all the way into one of the best flavor
balances found in cooking.  When her eyes opened again I knew she got
it!  It wasn't that we shared the same food tastes, it was how she was
able to embrace a new taste with complete abandon!

Because I am ravenously omnivorous, I can't expect my mate to match my
diverse tastes in food.  But I do need a person who knows that
familiarity is at the heart of our taste preferences. And it takes
very little exposure to make a foreign dishes become your own comfort
food in my experience.  They don't need to like everything I like,
but I need someone adventurous enough with food that they will try
something new.  This way of approaching food often maps across to
other choices in a person's life...

And now the deal killer list.  She can't be the kind of person who
will escalate unpleasantness to get what she wants when she knows it
is not what I choose.  If she attempts to bully me into doing
something I don't want to do, it is over.  I don't treat people in my
life that way and it is non-negotiable.  And the real sweethearts
never try because they care what I want.  And I do the same for them.
It sounds obvious but if you have ever been in a relationship with a
person who violates this principle, you will understand.

I hope others weigh in on this topic.  Nice call Sal.

I agree with pretty much all of that.  I would also add feeling
like the person is (or could be) your best friend is really nice.
A deal-breaker would be either the grudge-holder (sort of what
you've said above) or the guy looking around the room at every
other woman.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:
 I think Edg put it best if he doesn't mind me quoting him here:
 
 And Billy's being outside us should be seen as a clanging a gong that
 peals the news that he's also found inside us, or we would never have
 IDENTIFIED HIM OUT THEREflown into him, labeled him, targeted him.
 If there's a problem with Billy outside, how much more of a problem
 must we have with our inner Billy?
 
 Nicely put Edg/Duveyoung!!


Nice try at a dodge Billy.  That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work
on me.  Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has
nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do
with what is inside me.  





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant,
   realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO.
  
  Let's see if I have this right.
  
  You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the
  thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one?  And
  happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily
  available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before
  people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into
  books and then translated into a language you could understand?
  
  That you have the ability to understand this being's will?  The
  creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will?  Your human
  mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and
  translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God?  And that
  your birth language just happens to be able to convey through
  translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God?
  
  Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand
  his will but to carry it out in this world?
  
  And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is
  IMHO, your HUMBLE opinion?
  
  I don't think you understand what the term humble means.
  
  The claim that you know what living according to God's will means or
  are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many
  concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa
  Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy
  religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility.
  
  For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in
  the following phrase:
  
  We don't know. 
 
 I think Edg put it best if he doesn't mind me quoting him here:
 
 And Billy's being outside us should be seen as a clanging a gong that
 peals the news that he's also found inside us, or we would never have
 IDENTIFIED HIM OUT THEREflown into him, labeled him, targeted him.
 If there's a problem with Billy outside, how much more of a problem
 must we have with our inner Billy?
 
 Nicely put Edg/Duveyoung!!





[FairfieldLife] NOT AGAIN! .......Edg strikes......

2009-01-31 Thread Duveyoung
Yes, again.

But this time, I'm asking for help getting clarity about singing talent.

Intuit my issue yet?  

Yes, it's AMERICAN IDOL TIME AGAIN!

Last year about this time I boldly suggested that Idol was worth a
looksee, and the silence herein was from freakin' satoriville.

So, yeah, I'll try again, but this time, I've got a challenge for ya.

Here's my problem, and it's real, and maybe you can help me: at the
beginning of each of Idol's seasons, they show dozens and dozens of
decent singers banging out tunes with elan, nuance, creativity, etc.
with wonderfully listenable voices that come from a vast spectrum that
swings from Janice Joplan growers to operatic profundo types to the
more commercially sought golden-larynx.  I'm not some musical genius,
so what do I know, but, hey, I'm no dummy, and I tells ya there's a
ton-O-folks in these Idol prelims that can belt it out.

So, here's my problem:  at the end of the season, all that hope, all
that a talent, is nowhere to be found in the final contestants.  

Oh, they can sing, but in the last few Idol prelim shows, I've seen
talent that would, I believe, blow the past Idol winners out of the
water.  This year's talent seems a notch above the past, yet each
year, I feel the same inspired and upbeat way about the new crop, and
then I come away disappointed in the winnerin fact, usually the
final 12 are just not delivering on the greatness I thought was
certain to arise from the initial goin'-to-Hollywood-golden-ticket
holders.

My working theory is that the songs we see them singing in the prelims
are songs they've really really practiced and have naturally developed
a more nuanced touch for particular songs, but that when Idol starts
hammering them with the challenges of singing songs that are out of
the contemporary interests of the singers', then we see that their
talent cannot come up with an idiosyncratic version of the songs that
they have only a week to develop.  And out comes clunky.

But this just doesn't satisfy me.  I'm thinking it's more the case
that I don't know what's what when it comes to projecting how far a
talent can be taken and what a singing artist really faces.

Or:  It may have to do with the Carol King effect.  That's my term for
the fact that every song she ever created sounded like a Carol King
song.  See?  

The Beatles did a new sound as good as any and came out with many
voices to address the many genres they tackled, and they covered many
hit songs of others with their own unique take, but most artists seem
to be unable to sing out of the box within which they're first
presented to us. And, yep, sooner or later, the product offered just
doesn't speak to one anymore.  The raspy voice of the country gal, the
silken tones of some crooner, the lilt of another, no matter, it all
fades.

It might have more to do with toys.

How so?

I invented dozens and dozens of toys, was in the industry for years,
so I know toys, and I'm here to tell ya that there will never be
another Hula Hoop craze, never another flood of buyers for Rubic's
Cube, never another mania for the Yo-yo.  These toys still sell
millions of units per year, but, even though every year a new crop of
kids turn Hula Hoop age, those millions don't get turned on to the
gizmo like the 180,000,000 buyers of hoops purchased in the first year
of hoop-existence.  

Something in our culture just can't go home again.  Today's kid sees
hoops on TV etc. from birth on, and by the time they can wiggle their
hips, the hoops are old news.  When first they came out, it was NEW
NEW NEW.  See?

Like that, I think most singers just get plain-old KNOWN, and the new
kids coming into musical awareness have already been there done that
with the hipsters of even a few years back.  

So, maybe that's it -- jaded bots R Us, and by the time I get to the
final 12 of Idol, I'll have simply had too much of them to be wowed
like I was when first they sang in the prelims.  

Opinions?

Edg





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 Nice try at a dodge Billy.  That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work
 on me.  Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has
 nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do
 with what is inside me.  

You may already be acting according to God's will and don't know it,
didn't meant to imply you weren't.  Conscience and intuition are the
products of our pilgrimage through the rounds of reincarnation. When
you spontaneously act rightly it's because you have learned your
lessons and intuitively know right action from the results of your
past behavior.

Scripture, Conscience and Intuition are the means of knowing the will
of God, however until one is in complete accord with God will ones
behavior be in complete harmony with the laws of nature.




[FairfieldLife] Re: NOT AGAIN! .......Edg strikes......

2009-01-31 Thread Larry
I would have to study your post a lot longer then I would like to, to
glean exactly what you're asking - but to cut to the chase, from what
little I've seen of AI, it appears to be as much a popularity contest
then a singing contest.  So don't feel bad if your perceived talent
does not go far.

I did see and hear a singer near the end of this last episode that
gave my listening organ a tickle - as does a fine curry tickle my mouth.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Yes, again.
 
 But this time, I'm asking for help getting clarity about singing talent.
 
 Intuit my issue yet?  
 
 Yes, it's AMERICAN IDOL TIME AGAIN!
 
 Last year about this time I boldly suggested that Idol was worth a
 looksee, and the silence herein was from freakin' satoriville.
 
 So, yeah, I'll try again, but this time, I've got a challenge for ya.
 
 Here's my problem, and it's real, and maybe you can help me: at the
 beginning of each of Idol's seasons, they show dozens and dozens of
 decent singers banging out tunes with elan, nuance, creativity, etc.
 with wonderfully listenable voices that come from a vast spectrum that
 swings from Janice Joplan growers to operatic profundo types to the
 more commercially sought golden-larynx.  I'm not some musical genius,
 so what do I know, but, hey, I'm no dummy, and I tells ya there's a
 ton-O-folks in these Idol prelims that can belt it out.
 
 So, here's my problem:  at the end of the season, all that hope, all
 that a talent, is nowhere to be found in the final contestants.  
 
 Oh, they can sing, but in the last few Idol prelim shows, I've seen
 talent that would, I believe, blow the past Idol winners out of the
 water.  This year's talent seems a notch above the past, yet each
 year, I feel the same inspired and upbeat way about the new crop, and
 then I come away disappointed in the winnerin fact, usually the
 final 12 are just not delivering on the greatness I thought was
 certain to arise from the initial goin'-to-Hollywood-golden-ticket
 holders.
 
 My working theory is that the songs we see them singing in the prelims
 are songs they've really really practiced and have naturally developed
 a more nuanced touch for particular songs, but that when Idol starts
 hammering them with the challenges of singing songs that are out of
 the contemporary interests of the singers', then we see that their
 talent cannot come up with an idiosyncratic version of the songs that
 they have only a week to develop.  And out comes clunky.
 
 But this just doesn't satisfy me.  I'm thinking it's more the case
 that I don't know what's what when it comes to projecting how far a
 talent can be taken and what a singing artist really faces.
 
 Or:  It may have to do with the Carol King effect.  That's my term for
 the fact that every song she ever created sounded like a Carol King
 song.  See?  
 
 The Beatles did a new sound as good as any and came out with many
 voices to address the many genres they tackled, and they covered many
 hit songs of others with their own unique take, but most artists seem
 to be unable to sing out of the box within which they're first
 presented to us. And, yep, sooner or later, the product offered just
 doesn't speak to one anymore.  The raspy voice of the country gal, the
 silken tones of some crooner, the lilt of another, no matter, it all
 fades.
 
 It might have more to do with toys.
 
 How so?
 
 I invented dozens and dozens of toys, was in the industry for years,
 so I know toys, and I'm here to tell ya that there will never be
 another Hula Hoop craze, never another flood of buyers for Rubic's
 Cube, never another mania for the Yo-yo.  These toys still sell
 millions of units per year, but, even though every year a new crop of
 kids turn Hula Hoop age, those millions don't get turned on to the
 gizmo like the 180,000,000 buyers of hoops purchased in the first year
 of hoop-existence.  
 
 Something in our culture just can't go home again.  Today's kid sees
 hoops on TV etc. from birth on, and by the time they can wiggle their
 hips, the hoops are old news.  When first they came out, it was NEW
 NEW NEW.  See?
 
 Like that, I think most singers just get plain-old KNOWN, and the new
 kids coming into musical awareness have already been there done that
 with the hipsters of even a few years back.  
 
 So, maybe that's it -- jaded bots R Us, and by the time I get to the
 final 12 of Idol, I'll have simply had too much of them to be wowed
 like I was when first they sang in the prelims.  
 
 Opinions?
 
 Edg





[FairfieldLife] Fairfield film festival

2009-01-31 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.ottumwacourier.com/local/local_story_030235116.html



[FairfieldLife] eating dirt is good for you

2009-01-31 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/health/27brod.html



[FairfieldLife] (unknown)

2009-01-31 Thread ysoy10li
---Any books been published on Maharishi since last year ?
   I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not 
Stein...) had 
mentioned she would not publish her book until after M.'s passing



[FairfieldLife] new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread ysoy10li
---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
  I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not 
Stein...) had 
mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. 
until after 
his passing...



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[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, Billy, I really appreciate your response.  

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
 wrote:
 
  Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu 
tradition re 
  the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali.  All the elements that make up 
that 
  image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy 
of 
  Mother nature.
 
 I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. 
Mother
 Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many
 times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only 
Spirit
 is eternal, never changing and secure.
  
  Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of 
all 
  that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form.  I don't 
  remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be 
interested 
  in your sense and feelings re that form.
 
 In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to stay away from my fearful 
world
 of changefullness, I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and
 identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of
 Maya (nature).
 
  I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand 
and 
  appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living 
to 
  one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the 
  subject.  
 
 The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant,
 realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Marek






[FairfieldLife] Re: Lie To Me

2009-01-31 Thread Marek Reavis
Turq, I caught this, too, on Hulu and it's pretty great.  You 
described the story setup and cast perfectly.  Tim Roth really 
provides legitimacy to the character's brilliance and I was surprised 
how much I liked Kelli Williams.  They play off each other well.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 My brother turned me on to a new TV series in the US,
 thinking I might like it. He's knows me well.
 
 He described it as a series starring Tim Roth about a
 group of people who specialize in how to tell when a
 human being is lying. (According to a statistic in the
 first episode, the average human being tells three lies 
 every ten minutes.) He had me at Tim Roth. I think
 he's been marvelous in almost everything he's been in,
 and was more than willing to give him a shot at doing
 the same thing in a weekly TV series.
 
 Good call. It's actually pretty interesting IMO. There
 is no oogabooga or X-Files psychic weirdness about how
 they tell that people are lying; it's all about the
 physical tells that people display when they lie. The
 eyes don't crinkle up in a fake smile, but they do in
 a real one. Does the person look away from you when you
 ask them something, as if they were having to think about 
 it, or do they continue to look you straight in the eye, 
 as if they've already prepared a script for the answer? 
 When they tell a story that involves a sequence of actions, 
 can they relate the same sequence of actions in reverse? 
 (Liars rehearse the script in order in their heads, and 
 tend not to be able to relate it backwards.) 
 
 As expected, Tim Roth is excellent. So is Kelli Williams,
 as his associate and sidekick in the consulting firm.
 She's a junk food junkie who is almost as good at telling
 when other people are lying as he is, but who can't tell
 when her own husband is lying to her. Another interesting
 character is the newbie in the firm, a woman recruited
 from the ranks of airport security guards because she had
 a 95% rate of being right in challenging suspicious flyers. 
 And the fourth wheel in the firm and in the cast is an 
 employee who has an affliction that compels him to always 
 tell the truth. He presents an interesting contrast to 
 these people who make their living telling when others 
 are lying, but who lie all the time themselves.
 
 Fascinating series IMO. Teaches me a lot about the ways
 that I determine whether someone is lying to me, but never
 knew consciously. Also fascinating because it delves into
 the *reasons* why people lie, which are not always a 
 Bad Thing.
 
 All in all, it's a weekly reminder that sometimes we're
 probably better off not knowing when those around us are
 lying to us. Three lies every ten minutes, and all that...






[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread grate . swan
I have always wondered what beauty is. Why are we attracted to
something beautiful and less to something plain. What are the
attribute of beauty and its inner essence? Why is one particular woman
in Home Depot or Nordstroms attactive and another not so much. 

Genetic markers promoting evolutionary sustainability may give insight
to men's (perhaps odd) obsessions with breasts and behinds -- and
other markers that make women breath deeply when one man passes and
cringe at another. Perfectly symmetrical faces and proportions has
been shown to tie to perceptions of beauty. Cultural and media
conditioning is another element. But these things hardly capture the
totality of all the factors of attraction -- they barely scratch the
surface of defining beauty. 

Is beuaty simply and ultimately arbitrary? or does it have an eternal
form and attributes?

And beauty clearly does not stop with humans. Design and art, manifest
in many processes and things, can be beautiful. And nature can be so
breathtakingly beautiful. 

Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the fariest of them all?

Is a beautiful woman more beautiful than a sunset on a gorgeous beach
-- with just the right defraction of light and spread of clouds -- and
lapping waves, and glassy ocean. Or mountains and rivers in so many
ways and forms. 

I just spend a more wonderful afternoon absorbed in nature and
exercise. Lots of heavy breathing, and I was totally embraced by both
expansively subtle and intense clusters of beauty. Would an afternoon
of sex with the home depot lady have been more fulfilling? 

While I am up for research on this, lots of A/B trials, taking nature
as a lover has some clear appeal. She is ever fresh, creative,
sparkling and surprising. No fear of her running off with another man.
Its not hard to get a date. And if you need some time alone, without
her, she doesn't cringe and she welcomes you back when ever you want
with open enthusiastic arms.

And what is the commonality between a a beautiful woman and nature?
Beyond outward expression, is there a commonality, or at least
overlap, at a deep level? It seems a times that the glow within her is
the same glow within Her.   

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread grate . swan
Billie, what if God doesn't exist? Or Go exists and God is found to be
way different than you conceptualize God? 

I imagine your reaction would be one of devastation -- but that is
only speculation. 

I imagine if God exists and Curtis met God, he would say cool -- so
to speak, -- I am sure he would have more eloquent words. His life
would be similar to how it is now. 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Nice try at a dodge Billy.  That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't work
  on me.  Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has
  nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing to do
  with what is inside me.  
 
 You may already be acting according to God's will and don't know it,
 didn't meant to imply you weren't.  Conscience and intuition are the
 products of our pilgrimage through the rounds of reincarnation. When
 you spontaneously act rightly it's because you have learned your
 lessons and intuitively know right action from the results of your
 past behavior.
 
 Scripture, Conscience and Intuition are the means of knowing the will
 of God, however until one is in complete accord with God will ones
 behavior be in complete harmony with the laws of nature.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:

 Billie, what if God doesn't exist? Or Go exists and God is found to be
 way different than you conceptualize God? 
 
 I imagine your reaction would be one of devastation -- but that is
 only speculation. 
 
 I imagine if God exists and Curtis met God, he would say cool -- so
 to speak, -- I am sure he would have more eloquent words. His life
 would be similar to how it is now. 


Which, if there is a God, I imagine God, ironically.  would find the
use of God as a crutch less worthy than one who is thinking and acting
with tools God created in him.

And if God actually prefers the man using God as a crutch, then that
may speak to the deficiency of the God's creative power to create
self-sufficient beings. That such had God may be a lesser God -- not
the Creator of the entire cosmos.

Think about it -- God has to manage the whole Cosmos. If God is smart
-- and if God exists I hope its a smart God ( what if God is like
Bush) -- from God's view, or any managers, is it more efficient to
micro manage every single thing God creates humans, plants, cells,
galaxies)  or to create the tools within each being to be make
decisions far down the chain of command as possible. 

If man is truly made in the image of God, then doesn't it follow that
man has the blueprint -- and has the resources to (eventually) figure
it out and manage their lives productively and with other people and
nature? 

What parent wants their kid living at home at 30, totally dependent on
the parents for sustenance and guidance in every single little thing
that comes along? If no parents want this, why would God, for God's
sake, want it?











[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water

2009-01-31 Thread Joe Smith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ wrote:
 
  Anyone have any opinions on fluoride in the drinking water, it's
  benefits and health problems.Does Vedic City fluoridate it's water as
  well as MUM?
 
   Google it and it should be easy to decide
Opinion- very bad stuff.  N.

After researching it, I agree, that it's not good for anyone which is
why I wondered if MUM or Vedic City allow it in the water system
considering their concern for healthy living.



[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread Joe Smith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ysoy10li ysoy1...@... wrote:

 ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
   I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy
(no, not Stein...) had 
 mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged
experiences with M. until after 
 his passing...

She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a
hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. 



[FairfieldLife] Moral Codes, Transcendence of Meaning and Seducing Women

2009-01-31 Thread grate . swan
I was reading this this evening and parts seem germane and further
some of the discussion in the attractive powers thread. For me it
raises some questions -- Is beauty meaningful?  Finding a way of life
that does not rely on metaphysical speculation. Does a man need moral
codes to be moral and ethical?  Innocence vs Sin. Is there
meaningfulness when living in the present, as such is similar to Don
Juan's modus. 
   


The Myth of Sisyphus
 Albert Camus
 
The Absurd Man: Don Juanism
 
Excerpts of Summary

http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/sisyphus/section5.rhtml
 
 While the first part carried an abstract discussion of the concept of
the absurd and the consequences of living with it, this part provides
a number of examples of lives that embrace Camus's principles of
revolt, freedom, and passion 
---
Camus prefaces his analysis of these examples with a few remarks as to
what they all hold in common. The absurd man relies only on his
courage not to hope for anything more than life has given him and on
his reasoning that tells him that all his actions are limited to
having consequences in this world, and not in a world beyond.
 
The absurd man is amoral (which is not to say that he is immoral).
Either morality comes from God or it is invented by humans in order to
justify certain kinds of behavior. The absurd man cannot believe in
God, and he has no need of justification. He is guided only by his own
integrity, and integrity does not need to be guided by a moral code.
Because he is free from morality, and thus from the concepts of guilt
or wrong-doing, Camus describes the absurd man as innocent.
 
His first example of the absurd man is the famous seducer, Don Juan.
He moves from woman to woman, seducing each one in turn with the same
tactics—the same maneuvers—with which he seduced his previous lovers.
He never stays with one woman too long before moving on to his next
conquest.
 
Camus dismisses all accusations that Don Juan is desperately seeking
true love, or that he is melancholy, or that he is unimaginatively
repetitive, or that he is callously selfish, or that he will be a
miserable old man. All these accusations seem to assume that Don Juan
is ultimately hoping to achieve transcendence, to find something that
will take him beyond his day-to-day seductions, and that he is totally
incapable of finding that transcendence.
 
On the contrary, Camus portrays Don Juan as a man who lives for the
passions of the present moment. He lives without hope of finding any
transcendent significance in his life, and he recognizes the
meaninglessness of his seductions. He is not looking for true love; he
wants only to experience the continual repetition of his conquests. He
is not melancholy; that would suppose that he hopes for something more
or that he doesn't know all that he needs to know. He is not
unimaginatively repetitive in his seductions; he is interested in
quantity, not quality, and so if the same techniques always get him
the desired result there is no reason to alter them. He is not
callously selfish; he may be selfish in his own way, but he does not
seek to possess or control those whom he seduces. He will not suffer
the consequences of his actions; he lives in full awareness of who he
is and of where he is going. Therefore, old age and impotence can
hardly catch him off-guard.
 
Analysis
 
His interest is in the art of living, and throughout the first part,
his investigation is constantly directed not by a search for truth but
by a search for a way of life that does not rely on metaphysical
speculation. His primary interest is how to live, and it is only
natural that he should then turn to a practical discussion of the
absurd life, as he does in this section.
 
The difference between the absurd man and the rest of mankind is not
so much a matter of outward actions but of the inward attitude he
takes toward his actions. The difference, it seems, between Don Juan
and an ordinary seducer, is not so much a difference in behavior as a
difference in their attitude toward their behavior. 

--- for Don Juan there is nothing beyond the seduction. Don Juan does
not seduce women in the hope of finding love or of easing his
melancholy: he seduces for the joy of seducing. Don Juan is an absurd
man in that he acknowledges that his life is meaningless and that his
actions have no significance beyond their consequences in this life.
 
Camus characterizes the absurd man as essentially innocent, a term he
probably uses in contrast to the Christian concept of sin. According
to Catholic doctrine, we are all born sinners, stamped with the
original sin of Adam and Eve. A Christian lives with a constant
awareness of sin and guilt, and works to earn forgiveness and entrance
into the kingdom of heaven. The Christian life thus focuses on a
cosmic struggle between our inherent evil and our capacity for good.
The innocence of the absurd man, however, negates any awareness of sin
or guilt. A fear of divine judgment or a sense of a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water

2009-01-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... 
wrote:

 Anyone have any opinions on fluoride in the drinking water, it's
 benefits and health problems.Does Vedic City fluoridate it's water 
as
 well as MUM?



It's funny because back in the '50s and '60s the flouride debate was 
kinda the quintessential collective versus individualsim debate in 
the United States.  

Those for flouridation cited studies that allegedly showed that 
municipalities that flouridated their water had children with 
significantly lower rates of cavities, etc.  So the reasoning was: 
why not do it and help out those kids whose parents wouldn't teach 
them to brush, etc.

Those against decried government interfering with what should be a 
personal choice.

I'm with the latter.  I grew up in a community that did NOT 
flouridate yet my mother wanted us to have the benefit of it.  So 
what did she do?  She purchased flouride from the pharmacy and put 
the prescribed dose in our orange juice every morning when we were 
kids.

This to me is the answer to the debate: those that are against it 
don't have it forced on them; those that do can do what my mother did.

Another thing: I don't know if there are any studies on this but if 
you flouridate the entire water supply I cannot imagine that the 
benefits of flouridation could be as good as if you have controlled 
dosages, such as what my mother did.  And wouldn't flouridation 
threaten the full benefits of people who want to give their children 
controlled dosages...kinda whitewashing any possibility that 
controlled dosages could get the results they want?

Flouridation policy reminds me of the debate over statins 
(cholesteral reducing drugs): we may know what they do in the short 
term but no one has ANY idea what the long-term effects are.



[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote:
 
  ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy
 (no, not Stein...) had 
  mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged
 experiences with M. until after 
  his passing...
 
 She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a
 hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement.



Judy Stein recanted her liberal philosophy because people in the 
movement were unhappy?

I thought it was because Barack was elected...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Social Security - A Ponzi Scheme?

2009-01-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, arhatafreespe...@... wrote:

 Too many old Farts???   
 01/31/09  * S. S. -- A PONZI SCHEME WITHIN A PONZI SCHEME
 
 http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/



I wish I could find a quote from FDR about Social Security because 
it's a classic.

Social Security, of course, became a reality under FDR.  And, as you 
can imagine, there was widespread opposition to it.  The quote I'm 
thinking of was when people complained that the costs to fund the 
program would, eventually, spiral out of control.  And FDR's response 
was something to the effect: I give you my solemn word that Social 
Security will never cost more than 1.5% of income!

Today, Social Security contributions are 12.4% of the first 
approximately $99,000 of Adjusted Gross Income.

Of course it's a Ponzi Scheme...Madoff probably ran a more successful 
one.



[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water

2009-01-31 Thread Joe Smith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ 
 wrote:
 
  Anyone have any opinions on fluoride in the drinking water, it's
  benefits and health problems.Does Vedic City fluoridate it's water 
 as
  well as MUM?
 
 
 
 It's funny because back in the '50s and '60s the flouride debate was 
 kinda the quintessential collective versus individualsim debate in 
 the United States.  
 
 Those for flouridation cited studies that allegedly showed that 
 municipalities that flouridated their water had children with 
 significantly lower rates of cavities, etc.  So the reasoning was: 
 why not do it and help out those kids whose parents wouldn't teach 
 them to brush, etc.
 
 Those against decried government interfering with what should be a 
 personal choice.
 
 I'm with the latter.  I grew up in a community that did NOT 
 flouridate yet my mother wanted us to have the benefit of it.  So 
 what did she do?  She purchased flouride from the pharmacy and put 
 the prescribed dose in our orange juice every morning when we were 
 kids.
 
 This to me is the answer to the debate: those that are against it 
 don't have it forced on them; those that do can do what my mother did.
 
 Another thing: I don't know if there are any studies on this but if 
 you flouridate the entire water supply I cannot imagine that the 
 benefits of flouridation could be as good as if you have controlled 
 dosages, such as what my mother did.  And wouldn't flouridation 
 threaten the full benefits of people who want to give their children 
 controlled dosages...kinda whitewashing any possibility that 
 controlled dosages could get the results they want?
 
 Flouridation policy reminds me of the debate over statins 
 (cholesteral reducing drugs): we may know what they do in the short 
 term but no one has ANY idea what the long-term effects are.


It's very difficult to stop cities from fluoridating their water but
since Vedic City is an incorporated town with a philosophy of Vedic
health standards, it would probably be easy to get them to stop
putting this poison in the water. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water

2009-01-31 Thread Fairfield Lifer
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Joe Smith msilver1...@yahoo.com wrote:

Vedic City has all Fairfield services.  The water comes from Fairfield, the
electricity comes from Fairfield, I've seen FF and county law enforcement at
accidents in VC.

Mountain Valley Spring water is very popular amongst the residents of VC.


[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread ysoy10li

 She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a
 hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement.

--Wow!  If true, that certainly balances out some of the more incriminating 
written evidence 
shown in the Sexy Sadie file on FFL Like someone wrote after reading it : 
 Nothing like 
putting the accusations to cross (-examination) to bring out the truth ! Very 
cool...



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water

2009-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Joe Smith wrote:

It's very difficult to stop cities from fluoridating their water but
since Vedic City is an incorporated town with a philosophy of Vedic
health standards, it would probably be easy to get them to stop
putting this poison in the water.


And we all know how great Vedic health standards are...
anybody know the average life span in India?

Maybe they could lace the water with something
really beneficial instead, like mercury or cow poop.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: fluoride in water

2009-01-31 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... 
wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Joe Smith wrote:
  It's very difficult to stop cities from fluoridating their water 
but
  since Vedic City is an incorporated town with a philosophy of Vedic
  health standards, it would probably be easy to get them to stop
  putting this poison in the water.
 
 And we all know how great Vedic health standards are...
 anybody know the average life span in India?

Indian Life Expectancy: 69.25 years 
per capita annual income: $820.

USA Life Expectancy: 78.10 years
per capita annual income: $46,000.

considering the income disparity, i'd venture India is kicking our 
ass, big time. 
 
 Maybe they could lace the water with something
 really beneficial instead, like mercury or cow poop.
 
 Sal

weren't you just on here railing against racism or some damned thing? 
or is it ok to be racist against Indians, but just not black people? 
you've really gotta rethink that, Sally-- recompose the picture so to 
speak ;-)




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Joe Smith
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy1...@... wrote:

 ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
 I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy
(no, not Stein...) had 
 mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged
experiences with M. until after 
 his passing...

She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a
hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. 

Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just
the way you wish it were?



[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

  
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Joe Smith
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote:
 
  ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
  I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy
 (no, not Stein...) had 
  mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged
 experiences with M. until after 
  his passing...
 
 She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a
 hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. 
 
 Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just
 the way you wish it were?

My thoughts exactly. When did she recant her story? Please give exact quotes 
and 
references.



[FairfieldLife] Re: How woman misuse the power of attraction.

2009-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:

 Billie, what if God doesn't exist? Or Go exists and God is found to be
 way different than you conceptualize God? 
 
 I imagine your reaction would be one of devastation -- but that is
 only speculation. 
 
 I imagine if God exists and Curtis met God, he would say cool --
so to speak,

God and I are not cool. 

Actually I would be all up in his infinite grill about animals eating
each other alive.  He made some with a merciful kill bite and others
with a strategy of eating their prey alive.  This is uncool and there
is no excuse for it.

Then we can discuss the Guinea worm in drinking water. What a total
putz for inventing that! http://tinyurl.com/da9a4m  There is no excuse
for this suffering in the world. (I know some of this material is a
repeat but I am not over Guinea worms yet so please bear with me, I'm
 still warming up.)

If he wasn't a myth I would be totally pissed about his lack of
concern for the suffering of living creatures. (the Karma copout only
applies to humans, and not very well IMO)

And he would also have to answer for his crappy communication skills.
 Everybody else has a Website or a cable TV channel and the lord of
the universe can't shell out a few bucks so humans have a chance to
understand what he wants?  Hellooo Mr. Omniscient, ever heard of
Myspace or texting? You lack the communication skills of 13 year old
girls and you expect use to obey your words from old books that also
support slavery?  Even Doug Henning had TV specials, how hard is that?

 -- I am sure he would have more eloquent words.

You are too kind, I would be a raging idiot.  The meeting would not go
well.

 His life would be similar to how it is now. 

Well, if he turns out to be Hindu there is that beef thing...

Or Muslim there is that pork thing...

And if he is really Amish we are all screwed just for using this
electronic forum!

And if he is a Parsi, can you imagine how damned we are for just the
bugs we have inhaled? (I won't tell him about your roach motels if you
don't tell him that my freezer is full of prime cuts of Bambi's mom.
(And I would have wasted a life NOT putting Zoroastrianism on all
invasively personal forms, just to see the bureaucrat's face!)

And if he is Jewish and we don't have those curly sideburns and the
years dipping lobster in melted butter and mornings with bacon, (both
Canadian and the good kind) we are eternal toast. 

Of it turns out to be Kali and Pol Pot and Mao are sitting in heaven
with big grins at the banquet table and people like me who only
inhaled bugs and ate meat, but never took a human life, don't get in.
And if she is Kali AND a feminist who knows what is in my JPG packed
file in the folder named: boring business stuff that would be
uninteresting to any girlfriend reading this.

So Pascal's Wager (you might as well believe because it is not too
much of a pain in the ass and the upside might be huge) is bogus. 
None of us are any better prepared for the WYMS thug at the pearly
gates announcing in his obnoxious German accent:

Too bad, the answer is Poseidon. Everybody who has been making the
appropriate offerings to the Lord Poseidon of conch shells each full
moon can come into heaven for our eternal seafood brunch, and the rest
of you will report below for an eternity of service to Dick Cheney.
Don't bother packing any sweaters, swimwear optional.



 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Nice try at a dodge Billy.  That spiritual psycho-babble doesn't
work
   on me.  Claiming to know and act according to God's will still has
   nothing to do with humility, and your claim of it had nothing
to do
   with what is inside me.  
  
  You may already be acting according to God's will and don't know it,
  didn't meant to imply you weren't.  Conscience and intuition are the
  products of our pilgrimage through the rounds of reincarnation. When
  you spontaneously act rightly it's because you have learned your
  lessons and intuitively know right action from the results of your
  past behavior.
  
  Scripture, Conscience and Intuition are the means of knowing the will
  of God, however until one is in complete accord with God will ones
  behavior be in complete harmony with the laws of nature.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
geezerfr...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
   
  
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Joe Smith
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
  
   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li 
ysoy10li@ wrote:
  
   ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
   I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy
  (no, not Stein...) had 
   mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged
  experiences with M. until after 
   his passing...
  
  She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was 
just a
  hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. 
  
  Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is 
this just
  the way you wish it were?
 
 My thoughts exactly. When did she recant her story? Please give 
exact quotes and 
 references.

oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the 
possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more 
comfortable believing the he fucked around rumors, instead of 
believing the he didn't fuck around rumors? 

did i get that right? gotta wonder about the bias, don't you-- or 
does that just not matter, trumped by character assassination?



[FairfieldLife] Re: NOT AGAIN! .......Edg strikes......

2009-01-31 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Yes, again.
 
 But this time, I'm asking for help getting clarity about singing talent.
 
 Intuit my issue yet?  
 
 Yes, it's AMERICAN IDOL TIME AGAIN!
 
 Last year about this time I boldly suggested that Idol was worth a
 looksee, and the silence herein was from freakin' satoriville.
 
 So, yeah, I'll try again, but this time, I've got a challenge for ya.
 

Perhaps it's a bit like Liberace trying to play
boogie woogie: amazing technique in the 16 to bar version,
but almost no spirit, IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9nO9Ro_kd4

Albert Ammons and Pete Johnson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIVJw8yX6GY



[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-01-31 Thread Joe Smith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

  
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Joe Smith
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy10li@ wrote:
 
  ---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ??
  I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy
 (no, not Stein...) had 
  mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged
 experiences with M. until after 
  his passing...
 
 She changed her mind and recanted the whole story saying it was just a
 hoax propagated by unhappy people in the movement. 
 
 Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this
just
 the way you wish it were?



Just being a jerk Rick, but it has been a year now. Personally, I
don't think the book will ever be published. 


  On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:04 AM, Ron F wrote (quoting Deepak 
Chopra):
  
  There was never any truth to stories about the maharishi's
  womanising.
  
  If any women are going to come forth with their stories, now
  would be
  the time.
  
  The only woman I know of who has said she's going to come 
forward
  is Judith
  B., who reportedly has written a book, but is waiting till MMY
  dies to
  publish it.