[FairfieldLife] Re: [So, They Signs Me in as....]

2009-10-07 Thread Robert


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 There's got to be more to the story than just you calling four women 
 witches?
 
 Care to elaborate more?  They don't just throw people in prison for that, do 
 they?
 
Well, Yes, sir, there is more to the story than that...

That was just the last in a series of events, which put me in the hands of 
Justice...that bitter day...
As the witches, were demanding that I be hauled away...

The Police in this Wisconsin town, are very pleasant, indeed, but the witches, 
dids't win out, that awful and unpleasant... day...

What led up to it: 

'T'was Thrice Evil Things'...yep...

1.Listening to Rush Limbaugh...on the radio, and attempting to put 'Some Kind 
of Spell on Him'...

2. Holding in my hands, the 'Sargent Stripes' of my father, which he wore, in 
Germany, at the end of ?WWII?

3. Feeling really pissed off, that everyone had gone against me, in this 
apartment complex, when they found out, I had a 27 year old girl, in my 
apartment, overnight...

So, this is the forth, time the Police, had come out that week...
So, they like me and everything, but the witches insisted I be hauled off, as 
they were: 'Afraid of Me'...

So, one of the cops says, I'm sorry Mr. Gimbel but you we need to get you 'Out 
of Here, today'...
So, he says, you have a choice, go to the 'Hospital'...
And I says, 'Oh No, no way, they ain't gonna do me, like they did Michael, so 
he says, well then

So, then I tried puttin' one of them spells on him, the taller of the two 
Officer of the Law...
And I says, in a very deliberate tone...
'In the Name of Jesus Christ, may we...
And then he goes...
'You are under arrest...'
And so on and so forth...

So, you were right, sir, there was more to the story...

~RJG

'All the Leaves Were Brown, and the skies were grey'...

By the,

 'Mommas and the Papas'
 Somewhere in California, 1966...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Rob and Cindy

2009-10-07 Thread Robert
 (snip)
  Can you imagine trying to love the Taliban to subdue them?  No way!  Best to 
 find away to make them fearful.
 (snip)
This was Hitler's philosophy also...
Make them fear you, as much as possible, if they turn up the heat, you turn up 
the heat, louder,
If they get evil, you get more evil...
If they kill one of you, you kill ten of them...
If they eat human flesh, then you can too!

This is all 'Garbage In, Garbage Out...

It's Like Some Kind of Evil~BArdo, Stuck in Thta Gruesome place, for a l of 
time?./


Now, there is nothing to fear, about the Taliban...
They live many thousands of miles, from you, and want nothing to do with you, 
really...they just want to be left alone...
The whole thing with the Taliban, is that they don't like Opium or growing it, 
and the CIA, needs this money, as well as access to some oil, black gold, texas 
tea, in that region...

The Taliban, are like the Native American's were here, before their 
'Holocauset...
And the wiping out, of nearly every Buffalo, in the Whole Land...
How Evil The White RAce CAn BE!!!

R.g.

So, it's all just some kind of perverted game they play with us...

The only true way out, is through that old song by John Lennon,
Imagine, and Give Peace a Chance...

RJG



[FairfieldLife] Rituals Related To Dying

2009-10-07 Thread TurquoiseB
I've been trying to stay out of the RobAndCindy
thang, partly because I don't know them, partly
because pretty much anything I said would have
been characterized as an attack of some kind. I
wish the dude well on his journey, but despite
all the miracle talk it really does look to me
as if he's about to take one.

The whole scene brings up for me not thoughts
about fear of or acceptance of impending death 
but thoughts about the rituals that human beings 
invent to deal with that fear. So I'll pass along
some of those thoughts here.

A *lot* of the rituals seem to do with a gathering
together of loved ones and/or followers. Cool, I
guess, if done in the right spirit, but often IMO
done in a spirit that is...uh...a bit off.

I'm not a big fan, for example, of the Praise them
while they're still alive and can hear you thang.
Hopefully when I'm dying I will tell my loved ones
to save that shit for themselves for private moments
of their own. I hopefully won't need to hear someone
else's recapitulation of my life; I suspect it would
just be an annoying distraction to my own recapitu-
lation of that life. And if I thought there was 
anyone or anything to pray to I would pray that I 
won't spend my last days asking people to erect large 
stone phalluses in my honor all over the world, as 
some have done on their way out. Real phalluses 
will do just fine, thank you, especially if actually
put to their intended use. :-) 

I'm also not overfond of the soon-to-be-future
deceased waxing eloquently and with total certainty
about what awaits him or her. Some people get off on
a sense of certainty and knowing about the after-
life, and even whether there is one. Me, I'm hoping 
I'll preserve my curiosity about such things right up
to the last second, and dive into uncertainty look-
ing forward to whatever it brings, even if that
is nothing but fade to black.

Yes, I've got some residual *hopes* about what 
happens after death, and they tend to fall along
the lines of the Tibetan Book Of The Dead. If that
turns out to be an accurate description of the
passage from death to rebirth, I think my studies
will have prepared me to deal with the Bardo a tad
better than someone who knows nothing about it. But
all that might be bullshit, too, and for all I know
I might wake up in yer classic Christian view of
Heaven, sporting wings and carrying a harp and *not*
looking forward to an eternity of excruciating 
boredom. I'll wait to find out what happens, and 
hopefully spend the time up to the moment of it 
happening with anticipation, not dread, and with 
as little attachment to looking backwards as 
possible.

That's the part of common dying rituals around the
world that doesn't compute for me. A lot of them 
seem more focused on the attachment of those soon
to be left behind, and how much they'll miss the 
person going forward. And that's cool, I guess, but
I'm hoping that anyone who loves me to the point of
attachment will try their best to keep that attach-
ment to themselves and not transmit it to me. As I'm
lying there dying I fully expect to be working full-
time on *letting go* of any attachments to this world,
not preserving them. I would hope that my loved ones
would help me do so. 

Dying -- like shit -- happens. It's the one inevita-
bility or law of nature we can have some certainty
isn't just a part of some made-up belief system. And
it's as big a fuckin' mystery today as it was to any-
one born in Vedic times or will be to anyone born
in the future. It seems to me that the process of 
dying might better be spent looking forward to resol-
ving that mystery (or at least experiencing it first-
hand) than either fighting it off or trying to turn
it into just one more self-fulfilling prophecy based
on what we believe about the mystery.

Bottom line is that I have no idea how I'll handle
my death when it comes around. If I had my druthers,
I'll be able to go out with a joke on my lips as my
last words, not anything pretentious or spiritual
or preachy. When I get the news that my personal 
countdown clock has started and is (like in the
movies) clicking closer and closer to 00:00, I'm 
going to buy a bunch of books full of jokes and
try to read them daily, thus hopefully better able
to have a good one ready when the time comes.





[FairfieldLife] Painting along the lines of the Conservative Bible

2009-10-07 Thread TurquoiseB
do.rflex's recent postings about the Conservapedia
group trying to rewrite the Bible to remove any
offending liberal passages was an eye-opener. This
painting is another IMO. It shows Jesus holding the
US Constitution and other figures. You can mouse-
over them to see the details of this man's fantasy
America.

Artist Jon McNaughton of Utah has created a painting inspired 
by a vision he received during the 2008 elections. The painting 
-- titled One Nation Under God -- depicts Jesus surrounded by 
characters from American history plus Satan. Some of the 
characters are actual people (Ronald Reagan, James Madison ) 
and some are archetypes (handicapped child, liberal news 
reporter). The liberal news reporter, along with the professor 
clutching Darwin's Origin Of Species and the judge weeping over 
Roe vs. Wade are huddled in the lower right hand corner of the painting, next 
to Satan. (The pregnant woman is also in Satan's 
corner.)

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353#





[FairfieldLife] Re: Painting along the lines of the Conservative Bible

2009-10-07 Thread Robert
 (snip)

 painting is another IMO. It shows Jesus holding the
 US Constitution and other figures. 

(snip)
This is another example, of the 'Lie'...
The 'Christian Corporate Lie' that's been brain-washing, large segments, of the 
persons, living in the United States of America...
And the sole ownership of most media...

So, what happens, is a kind of 'Convulsive Autistic Brain Disturbance'...
IN That the 'World' becomes so confusing and evil...
That you 'Withdraw'...
To a world, 'In a Parallel Reality'...
Created by the 'Writers of the Bible'...
The 'Writers of Fox News'...
The 'Propaganda Machine of Drudgereport'...
And other 'News' outlets, owned and for the Corporate/Military Machinery...
The largest Export of the United States, is Weapons...

Whereas 'nomal autism'...shows itself, as an internal reference point...
The 'cultural autism', related to 'fundementalist christianity' and Glenn Beck, 
Rush Hudson Limbaugh, let them, eat cake!

RJG...




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 6, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Vaj wrote:

 On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:23 PM, yifuxero wrote:

 Right...the 3-rd eye chakra is the beginning point for progress in
 the Sant Mat Tradition; (although generally the goal appears to  
be a
 form of GC rather than Unity, judging by the lectures of Kirpal  
Singh).


 Most yogis wouldn't buy into the God Consciousness (God-con or GC)
 myth that MMY proposed. The bhagavata-darshana in reality is one and
 the same as those hari krishnas many of us saw in airports and on
 street-corners blissing out to their mantra and their kirtans,  
enrapt

 and superficially rather loving. But really more loving to those of
 their own hive-mind. Those outside the hive-mind? Less so. Those who
 had physical sex? They considered them animals.

 The makara-bindu, the place where Patanjali-style samadhi begins--to
 be more technically correct--is part of the upper third eye. It's  
the

 edge beyond the initial rapture of the three rivers (at the third
 eye), where karma or past imprints begin to be zeroed out (as in  
hard

 disk erasing).

 And a fresh and new human OS begins.

 Well metaphorically anyways...

Can you see the third eye? That is how some of my mentors mentioned  
how
one could identify whether one was down the road of enlightenment  
(never

mind just where).


I just get a flash of awareness when I place attention there.  
Although I have seen the opening as practiced in our tradition on my  
teacher, as have others.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rob and Cindy

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:22 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:

 He has a liter of water from John of God, the healer from Brazil,  
he has
 been taking Ammachi blessed water, he has his newfound faith in  
Jesus, really, I'd try to find some Padre Pio holy water.   I'd  
trade 50 of anything else for something blessed by Padre Pio.  Not  
joking



He was the fave of enlightened TMer Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, who  
later converted to Roman Catholicism. Being dead for so long, one  
wonders if there is any Padre Pio holy water left? But then again,  
how could you tell?

[FairfieldLife] Tales Of Holy Water (was Re: Rob and Cindy)

2009-10-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:22 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
 
  He has a liter of water from John of God, the healer from Brazil,  
  he has been taking Ammachi blessed water, he has his newfound 
  faith in Jesus, really, I'd try to find some Padre Pio holy 
  water. I'd trade 50 of anything else for something blessed by 
  Padre Pio. Not joking.
 
 He was the fave of enlightened TMer Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, who  
 later converted to Roman Catholicism. Being dead for so long, one  
 wonders if there is any Padre Pio holy water left? But then again,  
 how could you tell?

I cannot comment on Padre Pio water (and for that
matter don't even know who the heck he is), but I
can attest to the effectiveness of water from 
Lourdes. I met with some meditating friends who
were doing a kind of tour of France, and they gave
me a bottle of water they had recently purchased
in Lourdes. While driving back home after meeting
them, I encountered one of those summer rainstorms 
that in southern France are more like mudstorms,
because the rain happens during a dust storm. 

The resulting muck turned my windshield dangerously
opaque, and I found that I was out of wiper fluid
and dozens of kilometers from anywhere I could buy
more windshield cleaner or even fill the reservoir
up with water. So I poured the Lourdes water into
the wiper fluid reservoir and it worked just fine.
It healed the muddy windshield and allowed me to 
continue safely on my way. Not joking.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-10-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5


On-going, back to the early 1990's so many have been tossed out of the 
Transcendental Meditation movement community yet continued their 
spiritual pursuit in practice.  That is very much a story of the larger 
TM community and Fairfield now.  Thousands stranded out and neglected, 
who continued on cast-away with what they had anyway.
 (snip)
 We all can thank, Bevan Morris(AKA~Joseph Goebbels)...
 For helping to create this situation, for so many meditators...
 He is absolutely the worse thing, that ever happened to the TM movement...
 Since the damage is already done, he has retired, and has moved to Argentina, 
 with his former Nazi compatriots...
 
 R.G.


Interesting you saw this.
Dear Babaji, we see your pain and anger here at this.  Rooted in 
a truth and injustice as you feel.  Evidently seems was a potential so 
promising cut short.  A change of doctrine back then.

JGD, 
-Doug in FF




[FairfieldLife] Tales Of Holy Water (was Re: Rob and Cindy)

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 So I poured the Lourdes water into the wiper fluid reservoir
 and it worked just fine. It healed the muddy windshield and
 allowed me to continue safely on my way. 

Miraculous!



[FairfieldLife] Tales Of Holy Water (was Re: Rob and Cindy)

2009-10-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  So I poured the Lourdes water into the wiper fluid reservoir
  and it worked just fine. It healed the muddy windshield and
  allowed me to continue safely on my way. 
 
 Miraculous!

And I still have the same car. It now has 
over 300,000 kilometers on it. 





[FairfieldLife] New Hero for Truth about Healthcare

2009-10-07 Thread anatol_zinc
thanks Rishi,  (my reply to a friend)
i already saw one of his other videos etc and already send him my letter
to Obama;
but the video you sent is even better, excellent, just what America
needs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3gND4M9HA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3gND4M9HA

you should email him and encourage him to continue speaking truths

https://forms.house.gov/grayson/invite-request-form.shtml
https://forms.house.gov/grayson/invite-request-form.shtml


here's my letter to him :


Good for you Alan ! This is exactly what I and many have been praying
for, someone with courage to speak the truth. It amazes me how most
politicians and the media try to treat lies and truth on an equal
footing. That's nonsense, that's not being objective, that's
being delusional, that's living in a brutal world of fear,
ignorance, darkness.



My hope is that other Democrats and especially President Obama follow
suit and eventually most Americans will also become brave and be able to
distinguish between truth/love/compassion and lies/fear/selfishness.



Fear is the opposite of Love.



Word of Caution: If the President signs a bill without a strong Public
Option, that will be disaster for the nation, for the democrats and for
Obama.



Perhaps now, is the time to strike and speak the whole truth: that the
only way to fix our sick health care system is to get the Greedy
Insurance Co out of the ball game completely, at least as far as
providing Basic Care for Everyone. Obviously, they are not interested in
that at all. Let's go for a universal Medicare for All to
provide basic care for every American. Then let private insurance
companies cater to the wealthy, and stay away from exploiting the poor.



Here is my letter to President Obama:



Dear President Obama,



I strongly believe that it is better, much better, to stand for truth
rather than compromise with untruths. Here is my $.02 POV on truth about
America's health care or lack of it.



While I strongly support your efforts to improve our Health Care, I am
deeply concerned that:



1) the opposition is all based on greed, lies, and fears financially
promoted by the insurance companies.

2) too many Senators( especially Max Baucaus  ) and Representatives are
representing the special interests and their own greed instead of the
people.



How to make a Real Health Care system work:

1) my own POV is that the only reasonable honest workable approach is to
have Medicare for All with improved regulations to make it financially
sound and with a very strong PREVENTION PROGRAM included. PREVENTION is
the key that would make everyone healthier which in turn would make the
MEDICARE FOR ALL a real HEALTH CARE approach instead of simply disease
management.

2) I strongly oppose mandatory insurance and point out that we are the
only industrial nation in the world that lacks the compassion and good
common sense to have a universal health care system that provides better
health at lower costs. Their key is healthier citizens,  while Americans
are 80% overweight, 30% obese, 50% heart disease, 30% cancer, diabetes,
allergies, arthritis, etc etc, all of which can be greatly reduced with
appropriate dietary changes based on science like the worldwide research
@ www.thechinastudy.com

3) Only healthier happier citizens can transform a sick health care
system into a real health creation system.



Thanks for listening and God Guide America to selflessness, better
health, happiness, and real prosperity!



[FairfieldLife] Alan Grayson's Apology

2009-10-07 Thread anatol_zinc

this guy is good and has common sense wisdom and courage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoITVLWpKB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoITVLWpKB8



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread WillyTex





Vaj wrote:
 ...to sit as an institutional head 
 of the most corrupt math...

Apparently the Jyotirmath had been extinct 
for 150 years before SBS, so I fail to see 
how it could have been corrupt. 

In fact, there's no real historical evidence 
that Jyotirmath was even founded by the Adi 
Shankaracharya. 

So, it would seem that this is just another 
lame excuse for you to bash MMY. 

I guess, in all the hundreds of initiations 
and dozens of traditions you've been a part 
of, you never made any kind of pledge not 
to talk trash about other people's spiritual 
path. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread WillyTex


yifuxero wrote:
  It's a baby meditation because it's deficient 
  in awakening the 3-rd eye chakra. Karunamayi 
  physically touched my forehead once with some  
  kum-kum powder. I felt Blessed.
 
Vaj wrote:
 Good answer IMO.
 
 If the guru has awakened shakti and then gives 
 the student a mantra for shakti; it's his or her 
 duty to take the student at least up to 
 makara-bindu, the place where Patanjali says 
 samadhi begins.

Yeah, that sounds really scientific! You two should
be candidates for the Nobel Prize in Physics, or at
least an Ignoble Award or two.

But, Bill Hicks says the 'red dot' between the eyes
is a lottery rub-off. Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Surprised

2009-10-07 Thread do.rflex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
   The guy just unsubscribed.
 
  Was it something we said? :)
 
  Sal


  [http://www.buzzflash.com/images/lightside.gif]


Hopefully corrected





[FairfieldLife] JFAN annual meeting tonight!!!

2009-10-07 Thread Rick Archer
Tonight - Wednesday, October 7 at the Fairfield Arts  Convention Center -
7:30 pm
 
Jefferson County Farmers  Neighbors, Inc. Annual Meeting
 
The Economics, Politics, and Future of CAFOs

Dr. John Ikerd 
The Economic Advantages of Sustainable Farming, and the Economic Pitfalls of
CAFOs
 
Francis Thicke
How the CAFO Industry Emerged, and Why It Will Become Obsolete

Ed Fallon 
The Politics of Iowa's Agriculture Industry
 
Dave Murphy
Food Democracy Now!'s Successes and Sustainable Hog Farming
PLUS
 
Jim Rubis 
Update on JFAN's Recent Activities
 
David Sykes 
Update on JFAN's Legal Activities
 
Come at 7:15 pm and enjoy music by Afrograss folk rock artist 
Arthur Lee Land 

Admission is free. A donation of $5 helps JFAN protect Jefferson County's
quality of life.

Jefferson County Farmers  Neighbors, Inc. is a non-profit, tax-exempt
educational association. 

For more information, contact 641-209-6600
 
www.jfaniowa.org
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson's Apology

2009-10-07 Thread ShempMcGurk
I'm not only a social Darwinian, I'm a Darwinian.

Too many people are kept alive by healthcare they shouldn't be getting.  That 
44,000 figure Grayson cites?  Too small.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote:

 
 this guy is good and has common sense wisdom and courage
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoITVLWpKB8
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoITVLWpKB8





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:41 AM, WillyTex wrote:



Vaj wrote:
 ...to sit as an institutional head
 of the most corrupt math...

Apparently the Jyotirmath had been extinct
for 150 years before SBS, so I fail to see
how it could have been corrupt.



In Latin the word corrupt comes from cor- ‘altogether’ and rumpere  
‘to break.’ Altogether broken if you will. Jyotir Math was a  
altogether broken lineage. As you point out yourself, for well over a  
hundred years! That's not to say it was not corrupt in other ways.  
It's widely held that the southern math is the only unsullied math.  
YMMV. Old time TMers like yourself tend to give undue reverence to  
the institution IMO. Like many Indians, I feel the  
Mahamandaleshwari's are the more important traditions. But then I  
never did get off on Vaishnavism and puritanical Hinduism.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Premanand
The history of the succession of Jyotirmath was perhaps never broken, but that 
the priests of Badrinath assumed the title for those years.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:41 AM, WillyTex wrote:
 
 
  Vaj wrote:
   ...to sit as an institutional head
   of the most corrupt math...
  
  Apparently the Jyotirmath had been extinct
  for 150 years before SBS, so I fail to see
  how it could have been corrupt.
 
 
 In Latin the word corrupt comes from cor- `altogether' and rumpere  
 `to break.' Altogether broken if you will. Jyotir Math was a  
 altogether broken lineage. As you point out yourself, for well over a  
 hundred years! That's not to say it was not corrupt in other ways.  
 It's widely held that the southern math is the only unsullied math.  
 YMMV. Old time TMers like yourself tend to give undue reverence to  
 the institution IMO. Like many Indians, I feel the  
 Mahamandaleshwari's are the more important traditions. But then I  
 never did get off on Vaishnavism and puritanical Hinduism.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread WillyTex


Vaj wrote:
 How come we never hear about the disciple of 
 Swami Brahmananda's who was child molester here? 
 
How come we never hear about about your other gurus, 
one of whom is up on a murder charge, and how the 
other was convicted of raping a student. Not to 
mention your main guru, the one who was a drunk, a 
drug-user, who got a girl pregnant in India? Shemp
already told us about Muktanananda. Now it's your
turn, Vaj.



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread WillyTex


Premanand wrote:
 The history of the succession of Jyotirmath 
 was perhaps never broken, but that the priests 
 of Badrinath assumed the title for those years.
 
Do you have any historical evidence that can prove 
that Jyotirmath was founded by the Adi Shankaracharya
in the first place? Maybe it was just a myth that
the Adi founded four mathas, one at Badrika. From
what I've read, 'four mathas' isn't even mentioned
until after the seventeenth century in Indian
literature. I wonder what's up with that?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread Premanand
Prakashanand? Is it sure that he was a disciple of Guru Dev? 

At the age of twenty-one, in 1950, he renounced the world and went to 
Jyotirmath in the Himalayas. In 1951 he took the order of sanyas. Seeing his 
esteem of renunciation and deep feeling of God consciousness, in 1952, he was 
offered to be the successor of Jagadguru Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath which is 
one of the most renowned religious thrones of India. He very politely refused 
by saying, My final desire is to go to Vrindaban. I have given my life for the 
service of Radha Rani, so I cannot live forever in the math.
http://www.barsanadham.org/shree_swamiji.html

The information is very patchy... and as there is no record of Guru Dev having 
visited Jyotirmath between 1950 and 1953 ... well can anyone offer a clearer 
outline?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Premanand wrote:


Prakashanand? Is it sure that he was a disciple of Guru Dev?

At the age of twenty-one, in 1950, he renounced the world and went  
to Jyotirmath in the Himalayas. In 1951 he took the order of  
sanyas. Seeing his esteem of renunciation and deep feeling of God  
consciousness, in 1952, he was offered to be the successor of  
Jagadguru Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath which is one of the most  
renowned religious thrones of India. He very politely refused by  
saying, My final desire is to go to Vrindaban. I have given my  
life for the service of Radha Rani, so I cannot live forever in the  
math.

http://www.barsanadham.org/shree_swamiji.html

The information is very patchy... and as there is no record of Guru  
Dev having visited Jyotirmath between 1950 and 1953 ... well can  
anyone offer a clearer outline?



It is my understanding that his first guru was SBS. His ashram in  
Philly used to draw hordes of disaffected TMers back in the early to  
mid-80's--and the reason people were going over to his camp was  
because they had become aware of the unsavory aspects of Mahesh  
yogi, and Prakashanand wasn't shy about being one of SBS's old  
students who after his death, went on to another guru. Talk about out  
of frying pan and into the fire! At least M's girls were of legal age  
(as far as we know). Not this guy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:41 AM, WillyTex wrote:
 
  Vaj wrote:
   ...to sit as an institutional head
   of the most corrupt math...
  
  Apparently the Jyotirmath had been extinct
  for 150 years before SBS, so I fail to see
  how it could have been corrupt.
 
 In Latin the word corrupt comes from cor- `altogether'
 and rumpere `to break.' Altogether broken if you will.
 Jyotir Math was a altogether broken lineage.

Actually, we speak English here, not Latin.

Corrupt means:

1 a : morally degenerate and perverted  : DEPRAVED
b : characterized by improper conduct (as bribery or
the selling of favors)  *corrupt judges*
2 : PUTRID, TAINTED
3 : adulterated or debased by change from an original
or correct condition  *a corrupt version of the text*
synonyms see VICIOUS

Can't really say any of the above with reference to
an institution that hadn't been in operation for 150
years.

*Maybe* you could squeak by if you claimed you had
definition 3, debased by change from an original
condition, in mind, defining debased by change
in this case to mean had ceased operating.

But that's quite a stretch and certainly not what
anyone would understand you to mean in normal
conversation. Plus which, once Guru Dev had taken
the seat, it became operational again, so not even
the stretch could be said to apply.

In other words: Vaj was lying when he said Guru Dev
sat as the head of the most corrupt math.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Premanand wrote:

The history of the succession of Jyotirmath was perhaps never  
broken, but that the priests of Badrinath assumed the title for  
those years.



Interesting.

Of course a prerequisite for the job is that you're a realizer of  
Brahman...so that would indicate (to me anyways) that it was a broken  
tradition. At least spiritually if not (perhaps) technically. The  
overriding idea though, for me, is that the Shankaracharya order  
isn't the order I had been lead to believe it was.


I once put a lot of stock in the Shankaracharya's, et al, but I just  
no longer see it the way I once did.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rob and Cindy

2009-10-07 Thread yifuxero
...thx, the numbers of miles between us and A-Dharmic forces such as the 
Taliban is irrelevant. Surgical strikes by Predators can be engineered from 
Nevada by people in front of their TV consoles, guiding the drones to their 
targets. 
  Sorry, the New Age approach won't work (loving them). 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

  (snip)
   Can you imagine trying to love the Taliban to subdue them?  No way!  Best 
  to find away to make them fearful.
  (snip)
 This was Hitler's philosophy also...
 Make them fear you, as much as possible, if they turn up the heat, you turn 
 up the heat, louder,
 If they get evil, you get more evil...
 If they kill one of you, you kill ten of them...
 If they eat human flesh, then you can too!
 
 This is all 'Garbage In, Garbage Out...
 
 It's Like Some Kind of Evil~BArdo, Stuck in Thta Gruesome place, for a l of 
 time?./
 
 
 Now, there is nothing to fear, about the Taliban...
 They live many thousands of miles, from you, and want nothing to do with you, 
 really...they just want to be left alone...
 The whole thing with the Taliban, is that they don't like Opium or growing 
 it, and the CIA, needs this money, as well as access to some oil, black gold, 
 texas tea, in that region...
 
 The Taliban, are like the Native American's were here, before their 
 'Holocauset...
 And the wiping out, of nearly every Buffalo, in the Whole Land...
 How Evil The White RAce CAn BE!!!
 
 R.g.
 
 So, it's all just some kind of perverted game they play with us...
 
 The only true way out, is through that old song by John Lennon,
 Imagine, and Give Peace a Chance...
 
 RJG





[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread PaliGap







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:41 AM, WillyTex wrote:
 
 
  Vaj wrote:
   ...to sit as an institutional head
   of the most corrupt math...
  
  Apparently the Jyotirmath had been extinct
  for 150 years before SBS, so I fail to see
  how it could have been corrupt.
 
 
 In Latin the word corrupt comes from cor- `altogether' and rumpere  
 `to break.' Altogether broken if you will. Jyotir Math was a  
 altogether broken lineage. 

[snip]

Slippery.

We all know what corrupt means. It means a whole lot more than
your back-pedalled Altogether broken. (In fact in Latin
corrumpere means pervert, corrupt, deprave, spoil, rot, taint)



[FairfieldLife] Tales Of Holy Water (was Re: Rob and Cindy)

2009-10-07 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
 
 The resulting muck turned my windshield dangerously
 opaque, and I found that I was out of wiper fluid
 and dozens of kilometers from anywhere I could buy
 more windshield cleaner or even fill the reservoir
 up with water. So I poured the Lourdes water into
 the wiper fluid reservoir and it worked just fine.
 It healed the muddy windshield and allowed me to 
 continue safely on my way. Not joking.


Read the above written by our in-house Buddhist and see why people 
unsubscribe.




[FairfieldLife] Rod of Iron

2009-10-07 Thread yifuxero
Besides, the New-Age idea that (Per Deepockets Chopra): Consciousness is the 
solution to the world's problems, or Love; isn't even Biblical.  Even 
discounting the entire Hebrew Scriptures, we can point to the Rod of Iron 
verse, repeated in Handel's Messiah:

Revelation 19:15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may 
strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He 
treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. (NASB ©1995)

Also, Jesus used anger to kick out the Temple money changers.
(so much for Chopra's Love Guru solution).




[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 Vaj wrote:

 
 Apparently the Jyotirmath had been extinct 
 for 150 years before SBS, so I fail to see 
 how it could have been corrupt. 
 
 In fact, there's no real historical evidence 
 that Jyotirmath was even founded by the Adi 
 Shankaracharya. 
 
 So, it would seem that this is just another 
 lame excuse for you to bash MMY. 
 
 I guess, in all the hundreds of initiations 
 and dozens of traditions you've been a part 
 of, you never made any kind of pledge not 
 to talk trash about other people's spiritual 
 path.


BINGO ! 

Thoug Vaj's hate these days is mainly directed towards MMY who's plan is to 
give South-East-Asia back to the Buddha with TM. Since Vaj does not know who 
the Buddha was or is, he is now all flames in hatred of Maharishi. 

http://tinyurl.com/yelyr3d 




[FairfieldLife] Global Family Chat, September/Octover 2009

2009-10-07 Thread nablusoss1008

Global Family Chats 2009
To download the Windows Media Player files, right click on the link and
select 'save target as'.
The link for any day should be working approximately 24 hours after the
chat finishes.
Global Family Chats
October 6th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/06_oct_09.wmv  Two
extraordinary address by Raja Hagelin from the Native American
conference, bringing out the mechanics of how native peoples hold the
connection with the local laws of nature, and its importance for the
nation.
Raja Luis splashed a wide screen of brilliant advances: A conference
this week with Father Gabriel Mejia and 1,500 experts; three CBE schools
starting with Father Mejia's colleges; A Peace Colony started on Victory
Day in Bolivia for 5,000 Vastu houses and all the children will attend
CBE and be Yogic Flyers; The Brazilian government is inviting all top
scientists, business people, government, to a big celebration for the
start of the government-sponsored programme of TM in Rio schools;
Completion of the MAV Doctor's course run by Dr Walter Moelk, has
generated a huge wave of enthusiasm; Many mayors are contacting from the
Mayors' Conference, more invitations to address mayors; Mayor Julio
Pereiera is starting a big Peace Colony with Maharishi Tower of
Invincibility, and MORE..
October 5th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/05_oct_09.wmv  Raja
Vikram Aditya's inspiring birthday account of how national Yagyas turned
his country around and brought enlightening experience.
Experiences of Invincible America Assembly participants, and powerful
new clip of Maharishi Vedic Pandits. . .

October 3rd http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/03_oct_09.wmv  Deputy
Minister of Architecture Dr Wojtek Skalski reported that the first
global Vastu Coordinator Training Course started on Victory Day with 530
course participants. It comprises 4 sessions of about 2.5 hours each.
The next course will start in December. Beautiful pictures of
flagraising ceremonies around the world on Victory Day.
October 2nd http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/02_oct_09.wmv  Raja
Peter reports on progress in United Arab Emirates, the greatly enlivened
interest in TM in universities in the UK, flagraising on Victory Day,
and TTC in Bulgaria; Dr Volker Schanbacher outlines progress by the
Ministry of Education in his birthday celebration.
October 1st  http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/01_oct_09.wmv Speakers
address the press at the start of the conference on creating sustainable
American Indian communities on the themes of health, education,
sustainable energy, organic agriculture, and culture.

September 30th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/30_sep_09.wmv  Raja
Paul, Dr Chris Collrin, Dr Chris Crowell – First Nations peoples of
Canada attending the conference on creating sustainable American Indian
communities; the correlation between Vedic language and local mother
tongue brought out by Stolcel; Raja Ior reports on Greece, San Marino,
Verona and Kazakstan in the celebration of his birthday
September 29th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/29_sep_09.wmv  Dr
Bobby Roth – overview of the historic conference on creating
sustainable American Indian communities; Raja Luis – Three Victories
on Victory Day in Latin America: Government approval of TM in schools as
a government subsidized programme; a Maharishi Tower of Invincibility is
started; 900 students begin the TM Sidhi programme in Mexico
September 28th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/28_sep_09.wmv 
Victory Day – Maharishi's addresses to Northern Ireland and
Canada on Victory Day 2007
September 18th  http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/18_sep_09.wmv 
http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv Dr. Paul Gelderloos
and Dr. Sjoerd Vos describe experiences implementing TM in Dutch schools
September 17th  http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/17_sep_09.wmv 
http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv Raja Antonio –
progress in Spain and Portugal, mainly in Consciousness-based Education;
Raja Rogers and Don Wolf – reporting on the visit of Reg Blow,
Aboriginal leader from Australia.
September 16th  http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/16_sep_09.wmv 
http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv Raja Paul, Dr Guy Paul
Gagne and Dr Ashley Deans – the Brain Integration Scale as a new
level of understanding the power of Transcendental Meditation in
education
September 15th  http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv 
http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv Dr Mario
Orsatti:conferences on ADHD, depression, American Indian sustainability,
College campuses with David Lynch; Raja Luis: MAV courses for doctors
starting with Dr. Walter Moelk; message of fullness from Father Gabriel
Mejia. http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv
September 14th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/15_sep_09.wmv  Replay
of Thursday 10 September 2009
September 12th http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/12_sep_09.wmv  Dr
Robert Schneider, Dr Ravi Patel: Maharishi College of Perfect Health
seed grant; Raja Harris birthday 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

 Can you see the third eye? That is how some of my mentors mentioned how
 one could identify whether one was down the road of enlightenment (never
 mind just where).

 I just get a flash of awareness when I place attention there. Although 
 I have seen the opening as practiced in our tradition on my teacher, 
 as have others.

When you place the attention on someone else or yourself?   I saw the 
spot of light with a few people I met in India.  I've seen it with a few 
people in the US too.  With the proper techniques opening the third eye 
isn't all that difficult.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales Of Holy Water (was Re: Rob and Cindy)

2009-10-07 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 The resulting muck turned my windshield dangerously
 opaque, and I found that I was out of wiper fluid
 and dozens of kilometers from anywhere I could buy
 more windshield cleaner or even fill the reservoir
 up with water. So I poured the Lourdes water into
 the wiper fluid reservoir and it worked just fine.
 It healed the muddy windshield and allowed me to 
 continue safely on my way. Not joking.

Speaking of windshield and bugs (segue to movies again) look up Dark 
Country on the high seas.   Stars Thomas Jane (Hung)  who also 
directed,  Lauren German and Ron Perlman.   Very noir horror film about 
a couple driving through the desert from Las Vegas to Sedona at night.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469318/




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 7, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Vaj wrote:

 Can you see the third eye? That is how some of my mentors  
mentioned how
 one could identify whether one was down the road of  
enlightenment (never

 mind just where).

 I just get a flash of awareness when I place attention there.  
Although

 I have seen the opening as practiced in our tradition on my teacher,
 as have others.

When you place the attention on someone else or yourself? I saw the
spot of light with a few people I met in India. I've seen it with a  
few

people in the US too. With the proper techniques opening the third eye
isn't all that difficult.



On myself.

Others I do notice it in too, sometimes children.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rob and Cindy

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 Greetings Friends,
[rest deleted]

That was yesterday.

The word on the street today is that Rob was moved to hospice care.



[FairfieldLife] Brain Waves Surge Moments Before Death

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/06/near-death-brain.html

Brain Waves Surge Moments Before Death
Irene Klotz, Discovery News


Brain Surge | Discovery News Video

Oct. 6, 2009 -- A study of seven terminally ill patients found  
identical surges in brain activity moments before death, providing  
what may be physiological evidence of out of body experiences  
reported by people who survive near-death ordeals.


Doctors at George Washington University Medical Faculty Associates  
recorded brain activity of people dying from critical illnesses, such  
as cancer or heart attacks.


Moments before death, the patients experienced a burst in brain wave  
activity, with the spikes occurring at the same time before death and  
at comparable intensity and duration.


Writing in the October issue of the Journal of Palliative Medicine,  
the doctors theorize that the brain surges may be tied to widely  
reported near-death experiences which typically involve spiritual or  
religious attributes.


At first, doctors thought the electrical surges picked up by  
electroencephalographs were caused by other machines or cell phones  
in the rooms of dying patients, lead author Lakhmir Chawla told  
Discovery News.


(...)

[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread PaliGap




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Vaj wrote:
 
  Can you see the third eye? That is how some of my mentors mentioned how
  one could identify whether one was down the road of enlightenment (never
  mind just where).
 
  I just get a flash of awareness when I place attention there. Although 
  I have seen the opening as practiced in our tradition on my teacher, 
  as have others.
 
 When you place the attention on someone else or yourself?   I saw the 
 spot of light with a few people I met in India.  I've seen it with a few 
 people in the US too.  With the proper techniques opening the third eye 
 isn't all that difficult.


Has this third eye any use? I just say 'cos a seagull stole my fish
and chips right out of my hand the other day. If I could have had one
eye on my haddock, the other on my chips, and the other rolling around
my forehead scanning the threatening skies - maybe I could have saved
my supper?



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:

 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Vaj wrote:
  
   Can you see the third eye? That is how some of my mentors mentioned how
   one could identify whether one was down the road of enlightenment (never
   mind just where).
  
   I just get a flash of awareness when I place attention there. Although 
   I have seen the opening as practiced in our tradition on my teacher, 
   as have others.
  
  When you place the attention on someone else or yourself?   I saw the 
  spot of light with a few people I met in India.  I've seen it with a few 
  people in the US too.  With the proper techniques opening the third eye 
  isn't all that difficult.
 
 
 Has this third eye any use? I just say 'cos a seagull stole my
 fish and chips right out of my hand the other day. If I could
 have had one eye on my haddock, the other on my chips, and the
 other rolling around my forehead scanning the threatening skies
 - maybe I could have saved my supper?

That was your well-deserved karma, you animal-eating freak!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread Bhairitu
PaliGap wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 Vaj wrote:
 
 Can you see the third eye? That is how some of my mentors mentioned how
 one could identify whether one was down the road of enlightenment (never
 mind just where).
 
 I just get a flash of awareness when I place attention there. Although 
 I have seen the opening as practiced in our tradition on my teacher, 
 as have others.
   
 When you place the attention on someone else or yourself?   I saw the 
 spot of light with a few people I met in India.  I've seen it with a few 
 people in the US too.  With the proper techniques opening the third eye 
 isn't all that difficult.

 

 Has this third eye any use? I just say 'cos a seagull stole my fish
 and chips right out of my hand the other day. If I could have had one
 eye on my haddock, the other on my chips, and the other rolling around
 my forehead scanning the threatening skies - maybe I could have saved
 my supper?

The gull wouldn't have stolen your supper if your third eye was open.  
However the sparrows at Starbucks have been known to hop on my leg to 
beg for muffin crumbs.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread WillyTex








Premanand wrote:
...can anyone offer a clearer outline?

Yes.

There are probably two or three former 
disciples of Guru DevJi still alive today. 
It is a fact that the Swami Swaroopanand 
and the Swami Prakashanand are no longer 
in the direct line of Guru Dev, having 
gone over to adopt the teachings of others. 

Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati is currently 
the *sole representative of Guru Dev's 
lineage*, according to Vidyasankar 
Sundaresan...

Read more:

Subject: Brahmacharya Mahesh
From: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: September 16, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/ybmegxg




[FairfieldLife] Tales Of Holy Water (was Re: Rob and Cindy)

2009-10-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  The resulting muck turned my windshield dangerously
  opaque, and I found that I was out of wiper fluid
  and dozens of kilometers from anywhere I could buy
  more windshield cleaner or even fill the reservoir
  up with water. So I poured the Lourdes water into
  the wiper fluid reservoir and it worked just fine.
  It healed the muddy windshield and allowed me to 
  continue safely on my way. Not joking.
 
 Read the above written by our in-house Buddhist and see 
 why people unsubscribe.

Nabby, I am replying to this because I really
am curious as to how you think, and whether you
are aware of how you think.

The story I told about the Lourdes water is 
completely, 100% true. I did, in fact, use it
to clean my windshield. Does that make me a
Bad Person in your eyes?

My friends had just been to Lourdes. They are
sweet people, and as superstitious as you are,
so they stocked up on Lourdes water. I've been
to Lourdes. The water comes from the well there,
where it is bottled up in plastic containers just
like Evian and then blessed by one of the priests,
a roomful of bottles at a time. Then it is sold
to the pilgrims visiting the site for 5 Euros a
bottle. (Evian costs 1 Euro a bottle.)

Some of them believe it has miraculous powers.
And I am open enough to believe that if *they*  
believe it can perform miracles for them, it can. 
If my friends who bought the water had an ailment 
and drank the water, I think that there is a good 
chance that they would feel some benefit from 
doing so, from the placebo effect if nothing else.

I have no such placebo effect belief system going 
for me. I don't believe in magic water. So 
because it was the only water I had with me or 
within kilometers, I poured it into the windshield 
wiper reservoir and got home safely. You may consider 
that a miracle if you want. I do not. 

I consider you an *amazingly* superstitious person.
You believe thoroughly in things I find laughable,
and so I sometimes laugh at you for believing in
them. But I don't consider you a Bad Person for
believing in them, just a superstitious one. When
I laugh at your superstitions, I am also remembering
back and laughing at my own. I once owned a set of
coral beads blessed by Maharishi, and like every-
one else in the TM movement I probably paid 10X what 
they were really worth to the movement scam artist
who sold them to me. Then I dutifully stood in line
so that Maharishi could shake them around in his
hand for a few seconds and make them all magic.

I have no idea what happened to them. I probably 
threw them away in one of my many moves. I don't
miss them, and I don't miss the me that thought
that they were magic. Does that too make me a Bad 
Person in your mind? 

If so, why?





[FairfieldLife] Padre Pio Holy Water

2009-10-07 Thread yifuxero
Costs only $2.80 for a vial:

http://www.discountcatholicstore.com/padre_pio.htm

I don't have the Holy water but I do have a pic of him at my desk, right in 
front of me.

In regard to that fellow with cancer, I'm praying for him (not for a cure but 
in preparation for his transition; so that Padre Pio will meet him as he 
crosses over, and be escorted into the Kingdom).



[FairfieldLife] Camden, NJ crack houses cleaned up thanks to Padre Pio

2009-10-07 Thread yifuxero
a testimonial from the Catholic gifts website (previous post):

I ordered medals from you a while back and  they have worked untold miracles 
here in the City of Camden - Padre Pio has closed up crack/whore houses, 
brought peace into homes and streets where drugs selling ran rampant, built 
gardens and greenhouses, planted trees and countless other blessings too 
numerous to mention! I can't give the medals away fast enough! He is converting 
our rundown neighborhood into a paradise!





[FairfieldLife] 'My Testimony for the Court'[The Rest of the Story]

2009-10-07 Thread Robert
So, this is what happened at the Court..It was Monday morning, about 11:00, on 
October the 5th, 2009.
This is where it was to be decided, if Heather would be seeing me, or if she 
would return her family... I said to the Judge: 'It seems more appropriate, to 
me now, Your Honor, after spending some time, in the clinker, that, although, I 
wanted to be Heather's Savior, it was not meant 'To Be'...
I can see, and feel, that Heather's parents love her very much...Indeed...
So, the order stood, that Heather would be returned to her family, with no 
contact with me for 4 years...And she gave her apartment up, and moved back 
home with her parents...Heather is 'Border-line' Autistic'
What follows, is my written testimony for the Court, in regard to Heather and 
myself...

To: Your Honor, Judge McNamara:Dt: October 5th, 2009.

Heather and I were both born on the ‘Day of Atoinment, a ‘Spiritual Day’..
Which would be similar to: ‘Good Friday’, in ‘Christianty’...
It’s like a: ‘Day of Ashes’...
I was born on October the Tenth, 1951, in Philadelphia, PA. USA

I’m not sure, if it’s in the stars, or what, but:

I have a ‘Special Connection’ with Heather, as I am a bit ‘Autistic’ myself...
And have worked with Autistic persons, in the past...

I as employed, by the ‘State of New Jersey’
at Princeton, New Jersey...
For about  two years,
Working in a ‘Group Home’ for Autism’...(1986-1987)
It was quite a learning experience...

During that time, I learned that Autistic people, are very sensitive,
Very intuitive, very psychic...perhaps, too much so, that they decide...
At some point, that the world is too confusing for them, so they retreat...
Into a world, ‘Of their own Creation’...


I remember, when I was about 19 years old...
I felt like I was becoming ‘Autistic’ myself...
I was living at home, still, with a father who had PTSD from WWII..
And my mom, who was living close to the valley of the dolls...
It felt like I was like in a prison, but worse, because it feel like:  
Somebody's losin' their soul, baby...
So, anyway, perhaps I was healing something, from my past with Heather?
So, I am here today, as much, if not more, for Heather...because I
know how it feels...
To feel so ‘Defeated’ and stuck: ‘Like a Child’...
When you see, other people, your age, in loving, romantic relationships...

Sincerely,

Robert Jeffery Gimbel


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread ShempMcGurk

Let Prakashanand come out with something as good as Chinatown and then I'll 
get on his case.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 For the Shempster.
 
 How come we never hear about the disciple of Swami Brahmananda's who  
 was child molester here? Isn't this more on topic that Roman Polanski?
 
  From Guruphiliac
 
 Tuesday, October 06, 2009
 The Criminal Trial Of Prakashanand Saraswati Delayed †What A  
 Surprise!!
 
 
 
 File under: Gurubusting, Gurus Doin' Time, Hands Where They Don't  
 Belong and The Siddhi of PR
 
 [Ed.note: Our Austin correspondent and former member of the tainted  
 temple in Texas where little girls allegedly got groped and diddled,  
 comes through with another fine report on the ongoing legal saga of  
 the God-faking Kreepalu protegé, Swami Prakashanand, known  
 fauxfectionately to us as Swami Prakashaka BOOM!]
 
 By a Former Barsana Dham Ashram Resident
 
 October 6th, 2009 †As Eric Cartman on “South Park” might say:  
 “Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well” †if he  
 heard that the trial has been delayed in the case of The State of  
 Texas vs. Prakashanand Saraswati on 20 counts of indecency with a  
 child. Originally set to start on November 2, 2009, the trial was  
 reset today to commence on January 11, 2010, as reported by the  
 Austin American-Statesman.
 
 Truth be told, many who know Prakashanand are not surprised. We  
 expected the trial would be delayed all along.
 
 I’m mean, after all, if you were an 80-year-old man who has had  
 hundreds of people licking your heels and kissing another body part  
 for the past several decades, would you be looking forward to  
 standing trial for crimes you knew you were 100 percent guilty of  
 committing?
 
 Before you answer, consider the fact that you most likely would have  
 squirreled away a significant amount of cash in places law-abiding  
 citizens would never think to look in a country half a world away. I  
 know that I would much rather live off-the-map in some remote village  
 in India for the rest of my days on earth than in the Texas State  
 prison system (where, if I were a “guru,” the other inmates might  
 not treat me with the respect to which I’ve become accustomed).
 
 A great deal of legal paper filing occurred over the past couple of  
 weeks preceding today’s notice of the trial delay as stated in the  
 Statesman. Here’s a little more insight:
 
 Prakashanand’s high-priced lawyers motioned for, and were granted,  
 discovery evidence in the form of the testimonies of the two female  
 witnesses in the case. This, presumably, is the first time his legal  
 counsel has had a clear view of the victims’ side of the case. I can  
 only imagine the laundry bill after that shoe dropped.
 Next Prakashanand’s lawyers requested to subpoena another person  
 whom they claim “is material to the pending criminal prosecution”  
 and without whom they claim “the Defendant in this pending criminal  
 prosecution will in all reasonable likelihood be denied his rights of  
 compulsory process.” Meanwhile, the lawyers had not yet seen this  
 particular person’s personal report to the Hays County Sherriff’s  
 office. Once they did read that report I can only imagine it was  
 another “spit-hit-the-fan” moment.
 Finally, yesterday the Hays County Public Access Website reported  
 that the District Attorney for the case filed an application for 14  
 (yes, that’s fourteen! subpoenas). The motion cited eight people  
 from the Barsana Dham ashram, located southwest of Austin, including  
 four members of the five-member JKP-Barsana Dham management team.
 The only member of the management team not on the subpoena request  
 list is Prakashanand himself. After all, he doesn’t need to be  
 subpoenaed. He’s the Defendant. He’ll be there on January 11th,  
 2010, to have his day in court and prove to the world that he is  
 innocent of child molestation. Right? I mean he will, won’t he? (I  
 kind of like the reporter’s commentary: “If the trial does get  
 underway then …”)
 
 Perhaps Prakashanand will even perform a few divine miracles for  
 those of us in the courtroom to prove once and for all that he really  
 is a God-realized Saint. Lord knows, he hasn’t performed any  
 miracles yet surrounding his arrest and the nearly year-and-a-half  
 drawn out legal battle!
 
 Friday, June 26, 2009
 Maya's A Bitchâ€A Blow-by-Blow Of The Latest Blow To Prakashanand's  
 Status As Ruler of Maya
 
 
 File under: Gurubusting, Gurus Doin' TIme, Hands Where They Don't  
 Belong and The Siddhi of PR
 
 [Ed.note: We just love it when an insider comes through with the  
 straight skinny. All are invited to fill us in on the shenanigans of  
 their present or former gurus. Much thanks to the soul who's provided  
 today's tasty treat covering a Gp fave, Swami Prakashaka BOOM!]
 
 By a Former Barsana Dham Ashram 

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[FairfieldLife] 'Find Yourself, for the first time'...

2009-10-07 Thread Robert
 
Embrace the Unknown,
You will not lose yourself in it. 
 
Be willing to not know who you are. 
Then, you will find yourself for the first time. 


  


[FairfieldLife] Death of Kirpal Singh's wife

2009-10-07 Thread yifuxero
from Mountainrunner:

from The Moth and the Flame, by Arran Stephens, p. 291-292 (Chapter 38):

Mataji [Sant Kirpal Singh's wife] returned to her eternal abode on April 3, 
1970. Her frail form had suffered from cancer for about four years. On this 
subject the Master afterwards remarked: Many people who have experienced this 
sickness have suffered greatly and have screamed aloud with the agony that it 
causes, but with the grace of God, through having direct contact with Him 
within, Mataji was spared the pinching effects..

Eventually Mataji was unable to get around anymore, and while the Master was on 
tour in the latter part of March, her condition worsened. On March 30 (1970) 
the Master asked her if she was ready to leave and she replied, Yes, in three 
days. The Master thought for a moment and then said, Well, three days, that 
means April 2nd - and I will be very busy that day (due to the commemoration of 
the death anniversary of Hazur Baba Sawan Singh). The 3rd would be better, in 
the early afternoon, say 1:30 p.m. I will be more free then.

At about 1:00 p.m. on the third it was noticed that Mataji's condition had 
become very serious. When told about Mataji, the Master said, I know it. The 
Master went to Mataji and looking down at her very kindly, asked, Are you 
prepared? She looked up and said, Yes. The Master said, Are you sure your 
heart is absolutely clear - with no hatred for anyone? She replied, Yes, I 
have nothing against anyone in my heart. The Master asked, Then why are you 
not smiling? With this, her face..began to glow with joy. Ripples of laughter 
came forth and she looked radiant with happiness. Taking hold of the Master's 
hand she said, Forgive me, if I have ever done anything to offend you. The 
Master smiled compassionately. She said, Both forms are here - I am seeing you 
outside and inside. The Master said, All right, now close your eyes and 
relax, and with these words he returned to his room. Within ten or fifteen 
minutes, Mataji had left.

Kirpal Singh afterwards remarked, she is more alive now than ever.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread Vaj


On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:08 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote:



Let Prakashanand come out with something as good as Chinatown and  
then I'll get on his case.



Oh my, His Divinity actually wrote The True History and the Religion  
of India: A Concise Encyclopedia of Authentic Hinduism that shows how  
Sanskrit is the Mother of all languages on this planet and how  
creation unfolds sequentially! How could you compare that to something  
as tamasic as Chinatown?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Polanski?

2009-10-07 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:08 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote:
 
 
  Let Prakashanand come out with something as good as Chinatown and  
  then I'll get on his case.
 
 
 Oh my, His Divinity actually wrote The True History and the Religion  
 of India: A Concise Encyclopedia of Authentic Hinduism that shows how  
 Sanskrit is the Mother of all languages on this planet and how  
 creation unfolds sequentially! How could you compare that to something  
 as tamasic as Chinatown?



Oh yeah?

What was its boxoffice?




[FairfieldLife] Re: New Hero for Truth about Healthcare

2009-10-07 Thread Robert


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote:

 thanks Rishi,  (my reply to a friend)
 i already saw one of his other videos etc and already send him my letter
 to Obama;
 but the video you sent is even better, excellent, just what America
 needs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3gND4M9HA
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3gND4M9HA
 
 you should email him and encourage him to continue speaking truths
 
 https://forms.house.gov/grayson/invite-request-form.shtml
 https://forms.house.gov/grayson/invite-request-form.shtml
 
 
 here's my letter to him :
 
 
 Good for you Alan ! This is exactly what I and many have been praying
 for, someone with courage to speak the truth. It amazes me how most
 politicians and the media try to treat lies and truth on an equal
 footing. That's nonsense, that's not being objective, that's
 being delusional, that's living in a brutal world of fear,
 ignorance, darkness.
 
 
 
 My hope is that other Democrats and especially President Obama follow
 suit and eventually most Americans will also become brave and be able to
 distinguish between truth/love/compassion and lies/fear/selfishness.
 
 
 
 Fear is the opposite of Love.
 
 
 
 Word of Caution: If the President signs a bill without a strong Public
 Option, that will be disaster for the nation, for the democrats and for
 Obama.
 
 
 
 Perhaps now, is the time to strike and speak the whole truth: that the
 only way to fix our sick health care system is to get the Greedy
 Insurance Co out of the ball game completely, at least as far as
 providing Basic Care for Everyone. Obviously, they are not interested in
 that at all. Let's go for a universal Medicare for All to
 provide basic care for every American. Then let private insurance
 companies cater to the wealthy, and stay away from exploiting the poor.
 
 
 
 Here is my letter to President Obama:
 
 
 
 Dear President Obama,
 
 
 
 I strongly believe that it is better, much better, to stand for truth
 rather than compromise with untruths. Here is my $.02 POV on truth about
 America's health care or lack of it.
 
 
 
 While I strongly support your efforts to improve our Health Care, I am
 deeply concerned that:
 
 
 
 1) the opposition is all based on greed, lies, and fears financially
 promoted by the insurance companies.
 
 2) too many Senators( especially Max Baucaus  ) and Representatives are
 representing the special interests and their own greed instead of the
 people.
 
 
 
 How to make a Real Health Care system work:
 
 1) my own POV is that the only reasonable honest workable approach is to
 have Medicare for All with improved regulations to make it financially
 sound and with a very strong PREVENTION PROGRAM included. PREVENTION is
 the key that would make everyone healthier which in turn would make the
 MEDICARE FOR ALL a real HEALTH CARE approach instead of simply disease
 management.
 
 2) I strongly oppose mandatory insurance and point out that we are the
 only industrial nation in the world that lacks the compassion and good
 common sense to have a universal health care system that provides better
 health at lower costs. Their key is healthier citizens,  while Americans
 are 80% overweight, 30% obese, 50% heart disease, 30% cancer, diabetes,
 allergies, arthritis, etc etc, all of which can be greatly reduced with
 appropriate dietary changes based on science like the worldwide research
 @ www.thechinastudy.com
 
 3) Only healthier happier citizens can transform a sick health care
 system into a real health creation system.
 
 
 
 Thanks for listening and God Guide America to selflessness, better
 health, happiness, and real prosperity!

Here is a possible answer, from President Obama, on this subject:

Dear Meditators:

I am only one person, even though I am the President...
I am brave, because last time around, I got crucified, went through every 
imaginable pain, and was able to still remain loving and forgiving until the 
very end...
I have been here, for a while, so I forgot, how evil, it had become...
So, like I said, I am just one 'Dude', so even though I am the 'Chosen 
One'...(One of the 36 'Just Ones', in whom the whole of humanities destiny, is 
tied up..)

I need your help, all of your help...

Because all of this stuff, is so entrenched, in what it is, and since this has 
been building up, since the 'Reagan Days'...
And because, many people have been brainwashed, by the Corporations, it is 
going to take a 'Massive Outpouring' of 'Public Outrage'...
I am not LBJ, and do not have the 'Killer Instinct' which he had...
I am a 'Peacemaker', and always see 'The Best' in people...

There are people in power in our government, in the Military, that I do not 
have control over...

So, I need your help, your synchrony, your prayers, and for you to voice, in as 
many media, as possible, your outrage, at the current system...
This is the only way, change will happen, when 'The People' demand it...

Robert G.



[FairfieldLife] Republicans vote to protect rapists at KBR/Halliburton

2009-10-07 Thread do.rflex


In 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers while she was 
working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad. She was detained in a shipping 
container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and warned her 
that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job. (Jones was 
not an isolated case.)

Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her 
employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be 
heard in private arbitration.

Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense
 Appropriations bill that would withhold defense contracts from
 companies like KBR if they restrict their employees from taking
 workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.

Speaking on the Senate floor yesterday, Franken said:

The constitution gives everybody the right to due process of law ... And 
today, defense contractors are using fine print in their contracts to deny 
women like Jamie Leigh Jones their day in court. ... The  victims of rape and 
discrimination deserve their day in court [and] Congress plainly has the 
constitutional power to make that happen.

Easy call, right? Well, not if you're a Republican, eager to protect a right of 
corporations to rape its employees.

Of the 40 Republicans in the Senate, only 10 voted for the Franken amendment, 
including all four women in the Senate GOP.

Of the six Republican males who voted for the amendment, all of them 
represented states outside the deep South -- Bennett (UT), Hatch (UT), Grassley 
(IA), LeMieux (FL), Lugar (IN), and Voinovich (OH).

The other 30 men, including luminaries like David Vitter, John Ensign, and John 
McCain, didn't think the amendment warranted passage.

This is interesting. According to Republicans, a fake pimp and ho, reported to 
the police, was apparently so beyond the pale that they've worked to strip 
ACORN of all federal funding. But denying employees actual redress from gang 
rapes is no big deal?

Will the GOP soon introduce a new Constitution Amendment that reads, Congress 
shall make no law respecting the ability of corporations to gang rape their 
employees? Is support for corporate gang rape already in the GOP platform, or 
does it need to be added at their next meeting? Is there a huge corporate gang 
rape lobby that is funneling millions into GOP pockets, or did they vote this 
way out of personal conviction?

As predictably regressive as the modern GOP has become, it's shocking to see 
that they still have the ability to shock.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/7/790633/-GOP-backs-corporate-rape







[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans vote to protect rapists at KBR/Halliburton

2009-10-07 Thread ShempMcGurk
I hear that in light of this policy they are renaming the party the Grand Old 
Polanski's...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 In 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers while she was 
 working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad. She was detained in a shipping 
 container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and warned 
 her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job. 
 (Jones was not an isolated case.)
 
 Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her 
 employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be 
 heard in private arbitration.
 
 Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense
  Appropriations bill that would withhold defense contracts from
  companies like KBR if they restrict their employees from taking
  workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.
 
 Speaking on the Senate floor yesterday, Franken said:
 
 The constitution gives everybody the right to due process of law ... And 
 today, defense contractors are using fine print in their contracts to deny 
 women like Jamie Leigh Jones their day in court. ... The  victims of rape and 
 discrimination deserve their day in court [and] Congress plainly has the 
 constitutional power to make that happen.
 
 Easy call, right? Well, not if you're a Republican, eager to protect a right 
 of corporations to rape its employees.
 
 Of the 40 Republicans in the Senate, only 10 voted for the Franken amendment, 
 including all four women in the Senate GOP.
 
 Of the six Republican males who voted for the amendment, all of them 
 represented states outside the deep South -- Bennett (UT), Hatch (UT), 
 Grassley (IA), LeMieux (FL), Lugar (IN), and Voinovich (OH).
 
 The other 30 men, including luminaries like David Vitter, John Ensign, and 
 John McCain, didn't think the amendment warranted passage.
 
 This is interesting. According to Republicans, a fake pimp and ho, reported 
 to the police, was apparently so beyond the pale that they've worked to strip 
 ACORN of all federal funding. But denying employees actual redress from gang 
 rapes is no big deal?
 
 Will the GOP soon introduce a new Constitution Amendment that reads, 
 Congress shall make no law respecting the ability of corporations to gang 
 rape their employees? Is support for corporate gang rape already in the GOP 
 platform, or does it need to be added at their next meeting? Is there a huge 
 corporate gang rape lobby that is funneling millions into GOP pockets, or did 
 they vote this way out of personal conviction?
 
 As predictably regressive as the modern GOP has become, it's shocking to see 
 that they still have the ability to shock.
 
 http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/7/790633/-GOP-backs-corporate-rape





[FairfieldLife] President Obama declares national week of prayer for Rob

2009-10-07 Thread It's just a ride
I am getting a bit sick of the saga of Rob.  I've been at the bedside
of many dying sidhas, some of whom received last hour phone calls from
Maharishi.  Never have I seen in all these dyings the spectacle that's
been revealing itself in the posts to FFL from people close to Rob who
want to make this seem like the biggest thing since the passing of
Isabela Peron.   I don't know Rob.  Judging from the fact that he
lives in FF, I'd likely never want to meet him as I find people who
live in FF to be an especial boring clique.  I'm going to add some
filters to my Gmail account fo filter out Rob.


[FairfieldLife] A girly magazine for John Manning

2009-10-07 Thread ShempMcGurk

  https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/going-rogue.cfm?promo_code=8B24-1
[Sarah Palin: Going Rogue] 
https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/going-rogue.cfm?promo_code=8B24-1



  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer


 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Norway enjoys the world's highest quality of life

2009-10-07 Thread off_world_beings
Well except for the fact that there are parts of Oslo that the police won't go 
into, and the Norway has poor human rights compared to Britain, and also they 
do not cover everyone for health care as Britain does -- which is much harder 
to do, than just to cover natives. Norway also likes to kill whales. and 
overfish the oceans, and uses illegal protectionist practices in trade.

OffWorld



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 And YES, Norway has a government run health care system.
 
 SEE: Free health care in Norway. Almost perfect…
 http://evert.meulie.net/2008/01/28/free-healthcare-in-norway/
 
 
 Norwegians enjoy the second highest GDP per-capita
 (after Luxembourg) and third highest GDP (PPP) per-capita
 in the world...
 
 The Norwegian economy is an example of a mixed economy,
 featuring a combination of free market activity and large
 state ownership in certain key sectors...
 
 The government controls 31.6% of publicly-listed companies.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Economy
 
 - - -
 
 
Norway enjoys the world's highest quality of life, while Niger suffers the 
 lowest, a United Nations agency said today, as it released a ranking that 
 highlights the wide disparities in well-being between rich and poor countries.
 
 Canada was listed fourth.
 
 The annual Human Development Index, unveiled in Bangkok by the UN Development 
 Program, takes into account life expectancy, literacy, school enrolment and 
 per capita gross domestic product in 182 countries.
 
 A child born in Niger can expect to live to just over 50 years, which is 30 
 years less than a child born in Norway. 
 
 Furthermore, the differences in per capita income are huge for every dollar 
 earned per person in Niger, US $85 are earned in Norway, UNDP said.
 
 Canada's life expectancy was among the highest with a child at birth 
 expecting to live up to 80 years.
 
 Norway was followed by Australia and Iceland on the overall list, which drew 
 on statistics dating from 2007, before Iceland was hit hard by the global 
 economic crisis. 
 
 Afghanistan and Sierra Leone rounded out the bottom of the ranking.
 
 The United States was in 13th place.
 
 http://snipurl.com/scyst   [www_theglobeandmail_com]





[FairfieldLife] Re: Norway enjoys the world's highest quality of life

2009-10-07 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 
 
 John wrote:
  And YES, Norway has a government run health care system.
  
 Apparently the tax rate in Norway goes all the way up to 28% 
 in payroll deductions in order to pay for 'free' health care. 
 
 How would you like $1000 a month deducted from your monthly 
 paycheck? 

No, you prefer to just pay a thousand dollars a month to an insurance company 
instead. Lol !

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin Explains the Unified Field

2009-10-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 To All:
 
 He does a good job in explaining the concept.  But most people who are not 
 meditators cannot fully understand the idea.  Still, there are some who are 
 meditators and still fail to understand or refuse to understand because the 
 ego gets in the way.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZvaYBe2_Mfeature=related



Is a good 10minute once over all.  Where the progression of Eastern and Western 
have come to.  The noble cause.

-Thanks  



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5


 TM is not something from Adi Shankara, right?
 

Well, different from just tracing short lineage, other sources would say MMY 
brought and taught meditations of Adi to the West.  Or look at the commentaries 
and then Shri Vidya.  

 then again, the TM puja is actually mostly to/about Adi Shankara.

So yes, not getting hung on the narrow trademark,it is quite fair to say,

Jai Adi Shankara, Guru Dev SBS, MMY, Charlie Donahue, -Doug



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-10-07 Thread yifuxero
But Shankara was a nihilist: after Unity and physical death, no more existence 
in the relative sense.  So, we evolve over the course of eons of time only to 
not exist?
 There are more options in Buddhism.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
 
  TM is not something from Adi Shankara, right?
  
 
 Well, different from just tracing short lineage, other sources would say MMY 
 brought and taught meditations of Adi to the West.  Or look at the 
 commentaries and then Shri Vidya.  
 
  then again, the TM puja is actually mostly to/about Adi Shankara.
 
 So yes, not getting hung on the narrow trademark,it is quite fair to say,
 
 Jai Adi Shankara, Guru Dev SBS, MMY, Charlie Donahue, -Doug





[FairfieldLife] Bill Ayers: Obama's ghost writer?

2009-10-07 Thread ShempMcGurk

www.AmericanThinker.com http://www.AmericanThinker.com

October 07, 2009
Ayers admits writing DreamsBy James Simpson
http://www.americanthinker.com/james_simpson/
Last Friday we posted an article
http://www.examiner.com/x-25466-DC-Independent-Examiner~y2009m10d1-Ayer\
s-wrote  on these pages asserting Bill Ayers' authorship of President
Barack Obama's 'Dreams From My Father,' based on claims made by Obama
biographer Christopher Andersen
http://www.harpercollins.com/author/index.aspx?authorID=205 . It is
possible that we have now gotten direct confirmation of this from Bill
Ayers himself.

Anne Leary of Back Yard Conservative
http://backyardconservative.blogspot.com/2009/10/bill-ayers-no-dream.ht\
ml%20  was passing through Washington, DC's Reagan National Airport
yesterday, and was surprised to come across Bill Ayers at Starbucks:
scruffy, thinning beard, dippy earring, and the wire rims, heading to
order.

She struck up a conversation with him and snapped the accompanying
photo. (I interviewed Anne about it, and thank her for permission to run
the photo she took.)

Ayers was in Washington, he told her, for a conference on education
http://www.fresnostatenews.com/2009/10/renaissancegroup.htm .

That's what I do, education, he said. You shouldn't believe
everything you hear about me... You know nothing about me.

To which she responded, I said, I know plenty--I'm from Chicago, a
conservative blogger, and I'll post this.

I bet his heart skipped a beat on that one.

But he didn't scowl, and didn't run off as he has been known to do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdTMMWDnDM . Instead, unprompted, he
blurted out: I wrote `Dreams From My Father... Michelle asked me
to. Then he added And if you can prove it we can split the royalties.

Anne responded, Stop pulling my leg!

But he repeated insistently, I wrote it, the wording was similar [to
Ayers' other writing.]

Anne responded, I believe you probably heavily edited it.

Ayers stated firmly, I wrote it.

Anne ended the conversation by saying why would I believe you? You're a
liar.

Good for her. But we are left to wonder. Despite her parting shot, Anne
was convinced Ayers was in earnest. He was making a public statement. He
wanted this news out there.

Was he, as she had asked, pulling our collective legs? Other sources
report rumors that Ayers is very upset both about not getting any credit
for helping Obama on `Dreams,' and may also be put off by being
summarily thrown under the bus along with Rev. Wright and everyone else
who becomes an inconvenience to this President.
My understanding of communists is that most would know better and keep
their mouths shut. But Ayers is a bit different. He is, as he says, a
small `c' communist /2008/10/on_bill_ayers_and_small_c_comm.html
, but he is also, in a certain, slimy way, an entrepreneur, as we
explained in Monday's post
http://www.examiner.com/x-25466-DC-Independent-Examiner~y2009m10d5-Entr\
epreneurial-parasites-why-socialists-pursue-socialism-to-the-ends-of-the\
-earth . (Apologies in advance to entrepreneurs everywhere.) He grew up
a very rich kid, used to getting everything he wanted. Even as an adult
his career has relied on a hand up
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS140393+19-Aug-2009+PRN2\
0090819  from his wealthy father
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_G._Ayers . His past statements and
radical activities also mark him as a megalomaniac. In youth he drew
attention to himself by blowing things up. As an adult educator he
merely attempts to subvert children
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/275137.php . But that doesn't
seem to be going so well
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2009/03/30/ayers-visit-high\
-school-canceled-book-store-follows-suit .

He is under a lot of pressure, too. Ayers and his horrid wife Bernardine
Dohrn http://www.nndb.com/people/343/000132944/  are believed to have
planned and executed the San Francisco Park Police Station bombing in
1970 that killed police sergeant Brian V. McDonnell and wounded several
others. Efforts to bring them to justice have been underway for some
time, as brought to light this past March in a National Press Club
conference http://www.usasurvival.org/ck02.27.09.html  put on by Cliff
Kincaid of America's Survival.

Cliff's guests included Larry Grathwohl, the FBI's undercover agent who
penetrated Ayers' Weather Underground and produced this stunning
testimony about Ayers' plan to massacre 25 million Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQfeature=related , retired
S.F. policeman James Pera
http://sixties-l.blogspot.com/2009/03/police-officers-told-to-zip-lips-\
on.html , first on the scene at the bombing, and veteran researcher
Trevor Loudon http://newzeal.blogspot.com/ .

Now, a recent exposé
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/rprt-jamison.pdf  by San Francisco
reporter Peter Jamison has revealed additional evidence, including
testimony from other Weather Underground members, that Dohrn planted the
bomb that killed 

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin Explains the Unified Field

2009-10-07 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  To All:
  
  He does a good job in explaining the concept.  But most people who are not 
  meditators cannot fully understand the idea.  Still, there are some who are 
  meditators and still fail to understand or refuse to understand because the 
  ego gets in the way.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZvaYBe2_Mfeature=related
 
 
 
 Is a good 10minute once over all.  Where the progression of Eastern and 
 Western have come to.  The noble cause.
 
 -Thanks


Haglin is summarizing the current discoveries in physics and scientific 
cosmology.  He is taking the consciousness approach to explain the creation of 
the universe.

However, there are other physicists who are taking another approach to explain 
the cosmological phenomena.  They are now proposing that our universe is 
enveloped by a membrane which are very minute and unseen.  The other 
universes are enveloped by the same membranes.

According to their theory, these membranes would bump each other after several 
billions of years and would start another Big Bang to start a new cycle of 
universes.  Personally, I believe these physicists are blowing a lot of pipe 
dreams, although they may vehemently disagree.
















[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Ayers: Obama's ghost writer?

2009-10-07 Thread authfriend
Er, Shemp, you do realize he was having her on,
don't you?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 www.AmericanThinker.com http://www.AmericanThinker.com
 
 October 07, 2009
 Ayers admits writing DreamsBy James Simpson
 http://www.americanthinker.com/james_simpson/
 Last Friday we posted an article
 http://www.examiner.com/x-25466-DC-Independent-Examiner~y2009m10d1-Ayer\
 s-wrote  on these pages asserting Bill Ayers' authorship of President
 Barack Obama's 'Dreams From My Father,' based on claims made by Obama
 biographer Christopher Andersen
 http://www.harpercollins.com/author/index.aspx?authorID=205 . It is
 possible that we have now gotten direct confirmation of this from Bill
 Ayers himself.
 
 Anne Leary of Back Yard Conservative
 http://backyardconservative.blogspot.com/2009/10/bill-ayers-no-dream.ht\
 ml%20  was passing through Washington, DC's Reagan National Airport
 yesterday, and was surprised to come across Bill Ayers at Starbucks:
 scruffy, thinning beard, dippy earring, and the wire rims, heading to
 order.
 
 She struck up a conversation with him and snapped the accompanying
 photo. (I interviewed Anne about it, and thank her for permission to run
 the photo she took.)
 
 Ayers was in Washington, he told her, for a conference on education
 http://www.fresnostatenews.com/2009/10/renaissancegroup.htm .
 
 That's what I do, education, he said. You shouldn't believe
 everything you hear about me... You know nothing about me.
 
 To which she responded, I said, I know plenty--I'm from Chicago, a
 conservative blogger, and I'll post this.
 
 I bet his heart skipped a beat on that one.
 
 But he didn't scowl, and didn't run off as he has been known to do
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdTMMWDnDM . Instead, unprompted, he
 blurted out: I wrote `Dreams From My Father... Michelle asked me
 to. Then he added And if you can prove it we can split the royalties.
 
 Anne responded, Stop pulling my leg!
 
 But he repeated insistently, I wrote it, the wording was similar [to
 Ayers' other writing.]
 
 Anne responded, I believe you probably heavily edited it.
 
 Ayers stated firmly, I wrote it.
 
 Anne ended the conversation by saying why would I believe you? You're a
 liar.
 
 Good for her. But we are left to wonder. Despite her parting shot, Anne
 was convinced Ayers was in earnest. He was making a public statement. He
 wanted this news out there.
 
 Was he, as she had asked, pulling our collective legs? Other sources
 report rumors that Ayers is very upset both about not getting any credit
 for helping Obama on `Dreams,' and may also be put off by being
 summarily thrown under the bus along with Rev. Wright and everyone else
 who becomes an inconvenience to this President.
 My understanding of communists is that most would know better and keep
 their mouths shut. But Ayers is a bit different. He is, as he says, a
 small `c' communist /2008/10/on_bill_ayers_and_small_c_comm.html
 , but he is also, in a certain, slimy way, an entrepreneur, as we
 explained in Monday's post
 http://www.examiner.com/x-25466-DC-Independent-Examiner~y2009m10d5-Entr\
 epreneurial-parasites-why-socialists-pursue-socialism-to-the-ends-of-the\
 -earth . (Apologies in advance to entrepreneurs everywhere.) He grew up
 a very rich kid, used to getting everything he wanted. Even as an adult
 his career has relied on a hand up
 http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS140393+19-Aug-2009+PRN2\
 0090819  from his wealthy father
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_G._Ayers . His past statements and
 radical activities also mark him as a megalomaniac. In youth he drew
 attention to himself by blowing things up. As an adult educator he
 merely attempts to subvert children
 http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/275137.php . But that doesn't
 seem to be going so well
 http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2009/03/30/ayers-visit-high\
 -school-canceled-book-store-follows-suit .
 
 He is under a lot of pressure, too. Ayers and his horrid wife Bernardine
 Dohrn http://www.nndb.com/people/343/000132944/  are believed to have
 planned and executed the San Francisco Park Police Station bombing in
 1970 that killed police sergeant Brian V. McDonnell and wounded several
 others. Efforts to bring them to justice have been underway for some
 time, as brought to light this past March in a National Press Club
 conference http://www.usasurvival.org/ck02.27.09.html  put on by Cliff
 Kincaid of America's Survival.
 
 Cliff's guests included Larry Grathwohl, the FBI's undercover agent who
 penetrated Ayers' Weather Underground and produced this stunning
 testimony about Ayers' plan to massacre 25 million Americans
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQfeature=related , retired
 S.F. policeman James Pera
 http://sixties-l.blogspot.com/2009/03/police-officers-told-to-zip-lips-\
 on.html , first on the scene at the bombing, and veteran researcher
 Trevor Loudon http://newzeal.blogspot.com/ .
 
 Now, a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bill Ayers: Obama's ghost writer?

2009-10-07 Thread Sal Sunshine


On Oct 7, 2009, at 11:18 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote:


www.AmericanThinker.com
October 07, 2009

Ayers admits writing Dreams

By James Simpson
Last Friday we posted an article on these pages asserting Bill  
Ayers' authorship of President Barack Obama's 'Dreams From My  
Father,' based on claims made by Obama biographerChristopher  
Andersen. It is possible that we have now gotten direct confirmation  
of this from Bill Ayers himself.


Anne Leary of Back Yard Conservative was passing through Washington,  
DC's Reagan National Airport yesterday, and was surprised to come  
across Bill Ayers at Starbucks: scruffy, thinning beard, dippy  
earring, and the wire rims, heading to order.


She struck up a conversation with him and snapped the accompanying  
photo. (I interviewed Anne about it, and thank her for permission to  
run the photo she took.)


Ayers was in Washington, he told her, for a conference on education.

That's what I do, education, he said. You shouldn't believe  
everything you hear about me... You know nothing about me.


To which she responded, I said, I know plenty--I'm from Chicago, a  
conservative blogger, and I'll post this.


I bet his heart skipped a beat on that one.

But he didn't scowl, and didn't run off as he has been known to do.  
Instead, unprompted, he blurted out: I wrote `Dreams From My  
Father... Michelle asked me to. Then he added And if you can prove  
it we can split the royalties.


Anne responded, Stop pulling my leg!

But he repeated insistently, I wrote it, the wording was similar  
[to Ayers' other writing.]


Anne responded, I believe you probably heavily edited it.

Ayers stated firmly, I wrote it.

Anne ended the conversation by saying why would I believe you?  
You're a liar.


Good for her. But we are left to wonder. Despite her parting shot,  
Anne was convinced Ayers was in earnest. He was making a public  
statement. He wanted this news out there...etc.


Right, which is why he'd pick this dimwitted
reporter to make such a potentially
rip-roaring revelation to--a conservative
non-entity with no credentials.

Get a life shemp.  Crap like this does
nothing but embarrass you, if you still
have the capacity anymore.

Sal