Re: [FairfieldLife] CDC: 59% of COVID cases are spread by people without symptoms
Hi Theresa, when I said pray to God but tie up yr camel, I meant, in thiscurrent context, meditate, but wear a mask, etc. Being well over 65, having Type A blood and high BP, what's common sense for me is to avoid going outas much as possible. But I pray for those suffering in hospitals andnursing homes and elsewhere. You too, be well, stay safe and radiate Truth. On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 02:03:42 AM CST, Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Which explains why Guru Dev died of throat cancer and Maharishi from congestive heart failure. Maharishi regularly said to fight to stay alive. Fight! Active verb. Not a quiescent state of surrender. God helps those who help themselves. Avert danger before it arises. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you I think common sense must be the leading factor here. Show compassion by caring for others. Peter and Sharon. Since you both are so strong, please go and volunteer at the hospitals where folks are suffering. Uplift them with your darshan and tell them your messages ge. Hold them in your arms as they die and let them know your point of view. Prove to me you are invulnerable to this disease and then we will trust you.. I know I am not. Be well, stay safe and care. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Not to be contentious as that is not my intention, I do not believe that you even have to worry about the camel. The Guru Dev stated that we should attach the mind, through our meditation, to Paramatma. That is the clear instruction. Then, Paramatma, seeing everywhere, even this very place, takes care of all the Devotees needs without PRAYER AND WITHOUT having to ask; because it is His nature to solve all the issues of his Devotees because he does not want them to suffer in any way. This is in His role as Almighty Father. As a father I can attest that I wish to do the very same thing for my children; unfortunately I am not Almighty. Jai Guru Dev! On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:41 PM Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Pray to God. But tie up your camel. On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 12:01:40 PM CST, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: All Meditators, You are all Devotees of the Almighty, Omnipresent, Omnipotent Govinda. He is your Ishta Deva and the Ishta protects one from Anishtam(calamity)(per the Guru Dev). This is the promise of the Most High God! That is why we are Devoted to Him(Ishwara). Do we not realize this? This is why we do what we do; to eliminate from ourselves all limitation and weakness, living thereafter under the infinite protection of the Personal God.. He has promised to do this for all His Devotees. We need to be aware of this tremendous advantage that Mahesh-Ji has bestowed upon us; a Diamond of inestimable worth.. If we know this and believe in the Infinite power of the Supreme Being, I ask a simple question, 'what are we afraid of? If we are afraid of this current pestilence, perhaps we do not realize the above and we are lacking in Faith which we still need to possess even though we are systematically replacing blind Faith with direct experience; a very big difference. Based upon our direct experience we have faith that what we have not experienced we will one day participate in. The Gods have no interest in causing the Devotees of Paramatma to suffer. If this were so, then our meditation is not what we have been told that it is and I know from my own experience that our meditation represents the Highest Spiritual teaching available to mankind on this earth. Please stop cowering in and spreading fear and reflect the power that we all are infusing daily from the Almighty Being to whom we are Devotees. Namaste🙏 On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 11:16 AM Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: - According to the CDC, 24% of people who transmit the virus to others never develop symptoms and another 35% were pre-symptomatic. - It's one of the main reasons mask use is so important, the CDC said. - Peak infectiousness comes five days after infection, the agency said on the website. https://www..cnn..com/2020/11/20/health/cdc-coronavirus-spread-asymptomatic-website-wellness/index.htmlMost coronavirus cases are spread by people without symptoms, CDC now saysBy Maggie Fox, CNN Updated 10:31 PM ET, Fri November 20, 2020 (CNN) Most coronavirus infections are spread by people who have no symptoms, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in newly updated guidance. It's one of the main reasons mask use is so important, the CDC said. "Most SARS-CoV-2 infections are spread by people without symptoms," the agency said in a section of its website devoted to explaining the science of how to use masks to control the spread of t
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Inducing panic': Media under fire for driving coronavirus hype to epidemic levels
Thanks for this. Good to have all views.Hope you're having a sweet weekend.. On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 9:35:36 PM CDT, Brianna Delott briannadel...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/11/media-fueling-coronavirus-panic-under-fire/?fbclid=IwAR1RzTr7T2mVR8iyTf2aLbWBqRXNZWNhrdyx5ftt3QJyFacMWrIvU_M8COE On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: https://www.newsweek.com/young-unafraid-coronavirus-pandemic-good-you-now-stop-killing-people-opinion-1491797?amp=1&fbclid=IwAR02ASBUmIDXMvtRFN5aOAlCVTd1V5f_EkTD_leIqX5mQpbbF-bJd8_gliEOPINION I'm a doctor in a major hospital in Western Europe. Watching you Americans (and you, Brits) in these still-early days of the coronavirus pandemic is like watching a familiar horror movie, where the protagonists, yet again, split into pairs or decide to take a tour of a dark basement. The real-life versions of this behavior are pretending this is just a flu; keeping schools open; following through with your holiday travel plans, and going into the office daily. This is what we did in Italy. We were so complacent that even when people with coronavirus symptoms started turning up, we wrote each off as a nasty case of the flu.. We kept the economy going, pointed fingers at China and urged tourists to keep traveling. And the majority of us told ourselves and each other: this isn't so bad. We're young, we're fit, we'll be fine even if we catch it. Fast-forward two months, and we are drowning. Statistically speaking—judging by the curve in China—we are not even at the peak yet, but our fatality rate is at over 6 percent, double the known global average. Put aside statistics.. Here is how it looks in practice. Most of my childhood friends are now doctors working in north Italy. In Milan, in Bergamo, in Padua, they are having to choose between intubating a 40-year-old with two kids, a 40-year old who is fit and healthy with no co-morbidities, and a 60-year-old with high blood pressure, because they don't have enough beds. In the hallway, meanwhile, there are another 15 people waiting who are already hardly breathing and need oxygen. The army is trying to bring some of them to other regions with helicopters but it's not enough: the flow is just too much, too many people are getting sick at the same time. We are still awaiting the peak of the epidemic in Europe: probably early April for Italy, mid-April for Germany and Switzerland, somewhere around that time for the UK. In the U.S., the infection has only just begun. But until we're past the peak, the only solution is to impose social restrictions. And if your government is hesitating, these restrictions are up to you. Stay put. Do not travel. Cancel that family reunion, the promotion party and the big night out. This really sucks, but these are special times. Don't take risks. Do not go to places where you are more than 20 people in the same room. It's not safe and it's not worth it. But why the urgency, if most people survive? Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life. Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital, while you're being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu. No travel for leisure or business is worth this risk. Now, odds are, you might catch coronavirus and might not even get symptoms. Great. Good for you. Very bad for everyone else, from your own grandparents to the random older person who got on the subway train a stop or two after you got off. You're fine, you're barely even sneezing or coughing, but you're walking around and you kill a couple of old ladies without even knowing it. Is that fair? You tell me. My personal as well as professional view: we all have a duty to stay put, except for very special reasons, like, you go to work because you work in healthcare, or you have to save a life and bring someone to hospital, or go out to shop for food so you can survive. But when we get to this stage of a pandemic, it's really important not to spread the bug. The only thing that helps is social restriction. Ideally, the government should issue that instruction and provide a financial fallback—compensate business owners, ease the financial load on everyone as much as possible and reduce the incentive of risking your life or the lives of others just to make ends meet. But if your government or company is slow on the uptake, don't be that person. Take responsibility. For all but essential movement, r
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Karma Yoga
According to the concordance, on pg 303 of SofB, there's something on karma yoga.Hope this helps. On Thursday, July 12, 2018, 1:09:47 AM CDT, eustace10679 wrote: No, that's not it. I remember reading plainly that TM *is* Karma Yoga, the important issue being that after diving in you *have* ti get out and transfer to the outer world of action the what you got from diving in. That's why in TM extended practice -- without outside action -- is not recommended under normal circumstances and unlike other meditation practices. I remember reading it in the Science of Being -- and I've also read the Commentary. Maharishi's statement was straightforward and it did not involve interpretation. I think everybody should know about it. If anybody has the book handy and haven't read it, This statement remained in my memory as the most interesting in the book. And BTW it was written many years before the introduction of the sidhi program. Eustace -- The Meditation Meter Website http://emf.neocities.org/tm/meditationmeter.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new day in America!
...may peace belong to all the beings in the worldmay fullness belong to all the beings in the worldTina Turner and children Tina Turner - Sarvesham Svastir Bhavatu (HD Rework) | | | | || | | | || Tina Turner - Sarvesham Svastir Bhavatu (HD Rework) GET 'BEYOND' (2009): http://goo.gl/uYccFZ GET 'CHILDREN BEYOND' (2011): http://goo.gl/vfrDek GET... | | | | From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new day in America! On my way to the Dome to meditate.-JaiGuruYou #yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615 -- #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp #yiv6211531615hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp #yiv6211531615ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp .yiv6211531615ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp .yiv6211531615ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mkp .yiv6211531615ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-sponsor #yiv6211531615ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-sponsor #yiv6211531615ygrp-lc #yiv6211531615hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-sponsor #yiv6211531615ygrp-lc .yiv6211531615ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615activity span .yiv6211531615underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 dd.yiv6211531615last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6211531615 dd.yiv6211531615last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6211531615 dd.yiv6211531615last p span.yiv6211531615yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615file-title a, #yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615file-title a:active, #yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615file-title a:hover, #yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615photo-title a, #yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615photo-title a:active, #yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615photo-title a:hover, #yiv6211531615 div.yiv6211531615photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6211531615 div#yiv6211531615ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6211531615ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6211531615yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv6211531615 o {font-size:0;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv6211531615 .yiv6211531615replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv6211531615 input, #yiv6211531615 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv6211531615 #yiv6211531615ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv6211531615 code {font:115
Re: [FairfieldLife] Contrary to MMY's ideas, a businessman recommends
But Mike, what looks like hard work to someone, might be simply a joyful flow for the person doing the work. I recently heard the story of 2 men carrying something really heavy. After a while the younger man, by 20 years, noticed that the older man wasn't even out of breath. He asked the older man why, who said, "I'm not out of breath because nothing in me is resisting the task." The older man was Lester Levensen, founder of both The Sedona Method and The Release Technique. The younger man is who told this story. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Contrary to MMY's ideas, a businessman recommends I've noticed this idea over the years in the TM movement. "oh, I'll let nature organize it!" They sit back and wait and meditate for ever and a day and nothing gets done or is half-ass done The fulfillment is an inner experience but accomplishments, acquiring wealth and achievements requires busting your butt(maybe physically or mentally) in most cases. Maharishi worked his ass off to get what he accomplished. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Contrary to MMY's ideas, a businessman recommends to work harder to become a millionaire> Self-made millionaire: If you want to get rich, start working 95 hours a week || |||| Self-made millionaire: If you want to get rich, start wo... Stop doing the 9-to-5 and start doing 95, advises businessman Grant Cardone.|| | View on www.yahoo.com |Preview by Yahoo| || But MMY states to gain affluence through higher consciousness: Fulfillment and affluence through higher consciousness, not through hard work - Maharishi || |||| Fulfillment and affluence through higher consciousnes... http://www.tm.org Fulfillment and affluence through higher consciousness, not through hard work - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 1. Dr. Hagelin: Thank you very muc...|| | View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711 -- #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp #yiv3463689711hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp #yiv3463689711ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp .yiv3463689711ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp .yiv3463689711ad p {margin:0;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-mkp .yiv3463689711ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-sponsor #yiv3463689711ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-sponsor #yiv3463689711ygrp-lc #yiv3463689711hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711ygrp-sponsor #yiv3463689711ygrp-lc .yiv3463689711ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv3463689711 #yiv3463689711activity span .yiv3463689711underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3463689711 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv3463689711 .yiv3463689711bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3463689711 dd.yiv3463689711last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv3463689711 dd.yiv3463689711last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv3463689711 dd.yiv3463689711last p span.yiv3463689711yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv3463689711 div.yiv3463689711attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3463689711 div.yiv3463689711attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv3463689711 div.yiv3463689711file-title a, #yiv3463689711 div.yiv3463689711file-title a:active, #yiv3463689711 div.yiv
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
noozguru, yep, I've begun to wonder if there's some very bizarre deal bt Clinton and Trump. This morning it's reported that he's advocating not having an election, just give the win to him! It's almost insane to think that he's not throwing the election her way by his extreme behavior. Oh, what a movie it would make. (-: From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa We'll know November 9th but until then it seems anybodies guess. Conservative Republicans don't like Trump because he's too liberal. In fact he may be to the left of Clinton. They're buddies too so sometimes I think they're playing a massive charade on the American people. I saw the possibility of Trump being a Buzz Windrip (Slnclair Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here") when he started running. So did others. I thought the Sanders was a long shot but he did well in his campaign. I think he should still be the Democratic Party Candidate and we know to Clinton campaign did everything they could to get him out of the race. Remember both Trump and Sanders are on the same page regarding trade agreements, job loss and wars of empire. Clinton just tries to snow her followers. On 10/27/2016 04:47 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm worried about these polls for some of the reasons you state, but I do not know which candidate the inaccuracies will favor. It seems highly unlikely that Trump can win, but I will still be relieved when the day after the election arrives. I understand the Tweedledee-Tweedledum thing, but I think there are also major differences between the parties. Obamacare, for example, has markedly reduced the number of uninsured people in this country, which would never have happened had Obama not been in the White House. The Republicans also have a large number of climate change deniers, which the Democrats do not have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa. #yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711 -- #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp #yiv4879776711hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp #yiv4879776711ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp .yiv4879776711ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp .yiv4879776711ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-mkp .yiv4879776711ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-sponsor #yiv4879776711ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-sponsor #yiv4879776711ygrp-lc #yiv4879776711hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711ygrp-sponsor #yiv4879776711ygrp-lc .yiv4879776711ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4879776711 #yiv4879776711activity span .yiv4879776711underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4879776711 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4879776711 .yiv4879776711bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4879776711 dd.yiv4879776711last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4879776711 dd.yiv4879
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
There is a beautiful and much more detailed description of this process in Joan Harrigan's book Kundalini Vidya. Just to give a hint: once Shakti has traversed sushumna and reaches makara, She is stable. From there She and Shiva travel up to crown chakra. But this is just the tip of the iceberg of wisdom contained in Dr. Harrigan's book. I highly recommend it for any who are interested. It can be ordered at PKYC in Knoxville, TN. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 5:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! ..it is the vagus or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom. There also is a fire by friction in the center of the earth called the kundalini fire. The human is the focal point of these two fires or forces which play through him and activate his seven centers of light. The kundalini is a negatively charged energy which is activated by the positively charged energy, the spiritual fire, which is located in the central spiritual sun.It is said that at a propitious time kundalini hears the call of her mate and rises from her cave in the base of the human spine to meet him. The kundalini fire is aroused as a final step in one's spiritual development, and it can only travel up a clear, pure channel, activating the chakras as it goes. While this is happening, the latent powers within one are also coming into full expression in a natural way. It is the way that one through many rebirths, and now rapidly through meditation, moves from mortality to immortality. [excerpt] FFL 419964 A Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy ..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake in the spine’, etc. Jeez people! I feel he stopped publicly talking about these aspects of embodiment of the primordial in the light body of the human being as it was too distracting for where a lot of people were at and where the development of science was at in that time such that science then could not back up what is the spiritual reality. Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle on it. That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch up with spirituality in time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to. I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ consciousness paradigm don’t really get where people have gone in their spiritual experience. More recently with the opening up of mental health policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of ‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems. That is okay as one modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has cultivated other experience with it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers takes hold. The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the functions they perform. Breath may be something people can understand better than say, chakras. Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an intellectual skepticism about these energy centers: ‘Thin lines of energy flowing in the central nervous system? ’ ..'Where exactly?' Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
Why do you think "shared" was inappropriate to use in the context? From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck by the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used it. And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word "shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two week retreat about 2 years later. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% success rate. If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term "bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared." Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual path. From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care. Her book covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial and deflected risings and their outcomes. Remedial measures may require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point). http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530. #yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777 -- #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp #yiv1251208777hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp #yiv1251208777ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp .yiv1251208777ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp .yiv1251208777ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-mkp .yiv1251208777ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-sponsor #yiv1251208777ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-sponsor #yiv1251208777ygrp-lc #yiv1251208777hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777ygrp-sponsor #yiv1251208777ygrp-lc .yiv1251208777ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv1251208777 #yiv1251208777activity span .yiv1251208777underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1251208777 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv1251208777 .yiv1251208777bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1251208777 dd.yiv1251208777last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1251208777 dd.yiv1251208777last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1251208777 dd.yiv1251208777last p span.yiv1251208777yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word "shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two week retreat about 2 years later. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% success rate. If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term "bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared." Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual path. From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care. Her book covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial and deflected risings and their outcomes. Remedial measures may require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point). http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530. #yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711 -- #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp #yiv7032232711hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp #yiv7032232711ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp .yiv7032232711ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp .yiv7032232711ad p {margin:0;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-mkp .yiv7032232711ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-sponsor #yiv7032232711ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-sponsor #yiv7032232711ygrp-lc #yiv7032232711hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711ygrp-sponsor #yiv7032232711ygrp-lc .yiv7032232711ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv7032232711 #yiv7032232711activity span .yiv7032232711underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv7032232711 .yiv7032232711bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 dd.yiv7032232711last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv7032232711 dd.yiv7032232711last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv7032232711 dd.yiv7032232711last p span.yiv7032232711yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711file-title a, #yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711file-title a:active, #yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711file-title a:hover, #yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711photo-title a, #yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711photo-title a:active, #yiv7032232711 div.yiv7032232711photo-title a:hover, #yiv7032232711 div.yi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
Good morning, DougI've heard that there are several in FF who have availed themselves of PKYC wisdom and expertise. Names kept confidential as PKYC has, in my opinion, the highest of spiritual integrity. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Thanks Share, I have heard of the place in TN., it is nice to have the referral from someone who has been there. Occasionally some have troubles that are energetic in the kundalini category that can be debilitating. There are people around more locally who may be helpful too. Comprehensive remedy evidently can go beyond what is in the checking notes for meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% success rate. If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term "bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared." Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual path. From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care. Her book covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial and deflected risings and their outcomes. Remedial measures may require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point). http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530. #yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686 -- #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp #yiv7463576686hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp #yiv7463576686ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp .yiv7463576686ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp .yiv7463576686ad p {margin:0;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-mkp .yiv7463576686ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-sponsor #yiv7463576686ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-sponsor #yiv7463576686ygrp-lc #yiv7463576686hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686ygrp-sponsor #yiv7463576686ygrp-lc .yiv7463576686ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv7463576686 #yiv7463576686activity span .yiv7463576686underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7463576686 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv7463576686 .yiv7463576686bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7463576686 dd.yiv7463576686last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv7463576686 dd.yiv7463576686last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv7463576686 dd.yiv7463576686last p span.yiv7463576686yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv7463576686 div.yiv7463576686attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7463576686 div.yiv7463576686attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv7463576686 div.yiv7463576686file-title a, #yiv7463576686 div.yiv7463576686file-title a:active, #yiv7463576686 div.y
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
yifuxero, followup, PKYC doesn't use any magical techniques, simply traditional yogic practices such as pranayama and asanas. But asanas specifically for one's particular kundalini problem. There is also some emphasis on food choices, again with traditional vedic diet. Plus the application for the program is quite extensive including three personal histories: a health history, a spiritual history and a life event history. So they are well prepared for each client who comes for a retreat. And, at least back in 2009, the groups were quite small, only four clients at a time. It's a very beautiful program. If you read the testimonials on their website, you can feel how grateful people are, especially if they have been stuck for a long time in their spiritual life. From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care. Her book covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial and deflected risings and their outcomes. Remedial measures may require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point). http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530. #yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377 -- #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp #yiv2692375377hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp #yiv2692375377ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp .yiv2692375377ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp .yiv2692375377ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-mkp .yiv2692375377ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-sponsor #yiv2692375377ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-sponsor #yiv2692375377ygrp-lc #yiv2692375377hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377ygrp-sponsor #yiv2692375377ygrp-lc .yiv2692375377ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2692375377 #yiv2692375377activity span .yiv2692375377underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 dd.yiv2692375377last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2692375377 dd.yiv2692375377last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2692375377 dd.yiv2692375377last p span.yiv2692375377yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377file-title a, #yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377file-title a:active, #yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377file-title a:hover, #yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377photo-title a, #yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377photo-title a:active, #yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377photo-title a:hover, #yiv2692375377 div.yiv2692375377photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2692375377 div#yiv2692375377ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2692375377ygrp-msg p a span.yiv2692375377yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv2692375377 .yiv2692375377MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv2692375377 o {font-size:0;}#yiv2692
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% success rate. Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual path. From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus! Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care. Her book covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial and deflected risings and their outcomes. Remedial measures may require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point). http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530. #yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798 -- #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp #yiv2649635798hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp #yiv2649635798ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp .yiv2649635798ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp .yiv2649635798ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-mkp .yiv2649635798ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-sponsor #yiv2649635798ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-sponsor #yiv2649635798ygrp-lc #yiv2649635798hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798ygrp-sponsor #yiv2649635798ygrp-lc .yiv2649635798ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798activity span .yiv2649635798underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 dd.yiv2649635798last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2649635798 dd.yiv2649635798last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2649635798 dd.yiv2649635798last p span.yiv2649635798yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798file-title a, #yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798file-title a:active, #yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798file-title a:hover, #yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798photo-title a, #yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798photo-title a:active, #yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798photo-title a:hover, #yiv2649635798 div.yiv2649635798photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2649635798 div#yiv2649635798ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2649635798ygrp-msg p a span.yiv2649635798yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv2649635798 .yiv2649635798MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv2649635798 o {font-size:0;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv2649635798 #yiv2649635798reco-catego
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dakota = friend!
I don't think any of the three people are associated with the university at all. And one of the 2 guys is no longer associated with TM. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dakota = friend! I agree with Ann, they should be given medals (and bailed out by the university if necessary). Given medals for what? Bailed out by the University? Why? Misappropriation of University funds. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dakota = friend! As long as they were arrested for committing nonviolent civil disobedience, One can never be sure exactly what the fruits of group meditation will be, how they will manifest in the world. It may very well be that participation in nonviolent protests against oppression and injustice is one of those fruits. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There are some meditators from Fairfield, Iowa here who havebeen arrested out protesting the Dakota Access Pipeline. As representative exponents of reality, is it too late to decertify or at least separate from representing the community or the teaching transcending meditation someone who was trained and certified directly by Maharishi, even for their civil or criminal misconduct? What about these community meditators going out and making a spectacle of themselves and getting arrested law violating? If they had their meditations checked should they be let back in with the collective of the communal group meditation? Really?! Those who went, protested and got arrested deserve medals not condemnation. Good for them. FF residents (and meditators to boot) doing something concrete in this world instead of thinking group meditation will solve everything. Finally, something I can respect! Well done all you 'criminals' and scofflaws out there - more power to you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This guy is so full of Bull Shit. He's worse than Brian Williams! From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dakota = friend! Amerikan massive collective bad karma? Finally Mainstream Media tells the truth about Native Americans | | | | | | Finally Mainstream Media tells the truth about Native Am... Please take a few minutes to share this. Here's a petition written by a 13 year old member of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe. https://www.change.org/p/jo-elle... | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683 -- #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp #yiv9020637683hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp #yiv9020637683ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp .yiv9020637683ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp .yiv9020637683ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-mkp .yiv9020637683ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-sponsor #yiv9020637683ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-sponsor #yiv9020637683ygrp-lc #yiv9020637683hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683ygrp-sponsor #yiv9020637683ygrp-lc .yiv9020637683ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9020637683 #yiv9020637683activity span .yiv9020637683underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv9020637683attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv9020637683attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv9020637683attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv9020637683attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv9020637683attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9020637683 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv9020637683bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9020637683 .yiv902063768
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
duh, I use my real name and I'm not a moderator! From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. There must be hundreds of people that have posted to FFL using an alias - for obvious reasons. Why is there such an interest in their identity? Hardly anyone seems to use their real name - except the moderators. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e identity, while concealing your own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his (mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other members are, especially about FFL history. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being "trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on campus? I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase "banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 'trollish' in the old vernacular. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seriously? This is him too? How many aliases does that make that he's using concurrently? I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude. A record! Sal On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the guy who started this thread? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM campus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around on the internet. Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and stalked. This just doesn't app
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
I meant on FFL! From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. My suggestion is to replace all of the top administrators at MUM and the TM Org and to stop the dome badge requirement - let people all meditate together, without prejudice or fear of banishment and shunning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ananda, do you have any suggestions for dealing with alleged banning, shunning and stalking? From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once spent thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - now required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the TM Org turned into a cult. My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the same mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to mention the cyber stalking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Plus all the thousands who learned TMyears ago, thought it was just a bit of a relaxation technique andhave little interest in people still interested in TM or who usedto be interested. They could care less about a Yahoo Group likethis. But there is a small group who still think that TM is thecenter of the universe. On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote: The disaffected is probably inthe hundreds or even thousands by now: banned and shunned.Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group likethus? But, there is a strange silence from the currentcampus student population. Maybe they are scared. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Don't know. Is there morethan one FFL moderator? Right. From:ananda_das_gupta To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. So, how many havebeen banned from the Dome?Apparently none of the FFLmoderators are in good standingwith the TM Org. One was actuallybanned, right? ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong!I was an active poster toFFL and have not beenbanned from Dome, MUMcampus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So,you calledthem on their"shit" and youare an adult.And, there areno victimsfrom banningand shunningat the MUMcampus. It's amatter ofpersonalchoice, to getbanned fromthe Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting toFFL has beenbanned fromthe MUMcampus, right? So,why is Doug,the moderator,so upset? ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2is very muchactive, if youcare to joinand postthere. Theones whocaused so muchtrouble herewent to FFL2,until they gotcalled ontheir shit,and madetracks,willingly. Weare all adultshere, makingour owndecisions.There aren'tany victims.Those who havechosen toexcludethemselves didit by choice,without anyprompting. Asfor thosebooted fromFFL forinadequatesocial skills,live andlearn. So, howz aboutsome of that"controversialspirituality"from you, huh?Let's see howmuch you arebanned,shunned,stalked andharassed aftersharingit...but Iwon't beholding mybreath. Yourfantasydoesn't holdup. There aremostly thosewho get alongin the world,and there area few fuckups. The fuckupsunfortunatelyleak theirgarbage ontoothers, andfor thatreason are notwelcome here.Get it? Couldbe a siteabout *shoes*and the samerules apply. ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Oneof the otherFFL moderatorscreated a"free speech"zone on YahooGroups, but, it looks like they were shut down bycyberstalkers,following themaround on theinternet. Kickedout of theDome andbanned fromcampus -shunned.Banned fromFFL andstalked. Thisjust doesn'tappear to bemuch of aspiritualgroup. Nowthat's ironic! ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL andDoug aren'tlike TheCorner wherethere is abouncer at thedoor with aprepared listof those whocan't even getin the room.Talk aboutcensorship andlack of freespeech. Inaddition, youcan't evenread anythingthere unlessyou are on thelist ofapprovedindividuals.And the guywho startedthat forum andthose who arein attendancewere the onesgiving Doug ahard timeabout the lackof free speechat FFL. Tooironic to bebelieved.Luckily, sinceI knoweveryone overthere and haveheard whatthey have tosay about ahundred timesI'm notremotelyinterested ingettingadmitted. Somethings justdon't getbetter withage. ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : InDoug'sdefense, notone person has*ever* beenbanned fromFFL for notmeeting hisdefinition of"spiritual". The reason afew werebanned, isthat theylacked basicsocial skills,and were moreinterested inbeing a painin the ass,vs.contributinganything ofsubstance. Hadnothing to dowith content,and everythingto do wi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where does Hillary stand on GMOs?
Chinese insult? From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Where does Hillary stand on GMOs? I assume the smiley face means you're aware that "May you live in interesting times" isn't actually a Chinese curse, famous or otherwise, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Iowa folk already knows. Figure that in previous life we Americans all received the famous Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times. (-: From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Where does Hillary stand on GMOs? So Hillaryettes, where does she stand on GMO and Monsanto? The Iowa folks want know. #yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828 -- #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp #yiv6498839828hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp #yiv6498839828ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp .yiv6498839828ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp .yiv6498839828ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mkp .yiv6498839828ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-sponsor #yiv6498839828ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-sponsor #yiv6498839828ygrp-lc #yiv6498839828hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-sponsor #yiv6498839828ygrp-lc .yiv6498839828ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828activity span .yiv6498839828underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 dd.yiv6498839828last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6498839828 dd.yiv6498839828last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6498839828 dd.yiv6498839828last p span.yiv6498839828yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828file-title a, #yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828file-title a:active, #yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828file-title a:hover, #yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828photo-title a, #yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828photo-title a:active, #yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828photo-title a:hover, #yiv6498839828 div.yiv6498839828photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6498839828 div#yiv6498839828ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6498839828ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6498839828yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv6498839828 o {font-size:0;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv6498839828 .yiv6498839828replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv6498839828 #yiv6498839828ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#y
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
Laughter very good for releasing endorphins so yay! (-: From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner. Keep up the show. Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle. Can you help him? Nurse Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds. Ain't life just grand in the Funny Farm Lounge? :-D On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his (mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other members are, especially about FFL history. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being "trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on campus? I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase "banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 'trollish' in the old vernacular. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seriously? This is him too? How many aliases does that make that he's using concurrently? I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude. A record! Sal On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the guy who started this thread? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM campus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around on the internet. Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's ironic! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where does Hillary stand on GMOs?
This Iowa folk already knows. Figure that in previous life we Americans all received the famous Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times. (-: From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Where does Hillary stand on GMOs? So Hillaryettes, where does she stand on GMO and Monsanto? The Iowa folks want know. #yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144 -- #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp #yiv6333660144hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp #yiv6333660144ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp .yiv6333660144ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp .yiv6333660144ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mkp .yiv6333660144ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-sponsor #yiv6333660144ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-sponsor #yiv6333660144ygrp-lc #yiv6333660144hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-sponsor #yiv6333660144ygrp-lc .yiv6333660144ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144activity span .yiv6333660144underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 dd.yiv6333660144last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6333660144 dd.yiv6333660144last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6333660144 dd.yiv6333660144last p span.yiv6333660144yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144file-title a, #yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144file-title a:active, #yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144file-title a:hover, #yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144photo-title a, #yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144photo-title a:active, #yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144photo-title a:hover, #yiv6333660144 div.yiv6333660144photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6333660144 div#yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6333660144ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6333660144yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv6333660144 o {font-size:0;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv6333660144 .yiv6333660144replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv6333660144 input, #yiv6333660144 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv6333660144 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660144ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6333660144logo {padding-bottom:10px;}#yiv6333660144 #yiv6333660
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
ananda, do you have any suggestions for dealing with alleged banning, shunning and stalking? From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once spent thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - now required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the TM Org turned into a cult. My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the same mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to mention the cyber stalking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Plus all the thousands who learned TMyears ago, thought it was just a bit of a relaxation technique andhave little interest in people still interested in TM or who usedto be interested. They could care less about a Yahoo Group likethis. But there is a small group who still think that TM is thecenter of the universe. On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote: The disaffected is probably inthe hundreds or even thousands by now: banned and shunned.Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group likethus? But, there is a strange silence from the currentcampus student population. Maybe they are scared. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Don't know. Is there morethan one FFL moderator? Right. From:ananda_das_gupta To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. So, how many havebeen banned from the Dome?Apparently none of the FFLmoderators are in good standingwith the TM Org. One was actuallybanned, right? ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong!I was an active poster toFFL and have not beenbanned from Dome, MUMcampus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So,you calledthem on their"shit" and youare an adult.And, there areno victimsfrom banningand shunningat the MUMcampus. It's amatter ofpersonalchoice, to getbanned fromthe Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting toFFL has beenbanned fromthe MUMcampus, right? So,why is Doug,the moderator,so upset? ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2is very muchactive, if youcare to joinand postthere. Theones whocaused so muchtrouble herewent to FFL2,until they gotcalled ontheir shit,and madetracks,willingly. Weare all adultshere, makingour owndecisions.There aren'tany victims.Those who havechosen toexcludethemselves didit by choice,without anyprompting. Asfor thosebooted fromFFL forinadequatesocial skills,live andlearn. So, howz aboutsome of that"controversialspirituality"from you, huh?Let's see howmuch you arebanned,shunned,stalked andharassed aftersharingit...but Iwon't beholding mybreath. Yourfantasydoesn't holdup. There aremostly thosewho get alongin the world,and there area few fuckups. The fuckupsunfortunatelyleak theirgarbage ontoothers, andfor thatreason are notwelcome here.Get it? Couldbe a siteabout *shoes*and the samerules apply. ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Oneof the otherFFL moderatorscreated a"free speech"zone on YahooGroups, but, it looks like they were shut down bycyberstalkers,following themaround on theinternet. Kickedout of theDome andbanned fromcampus -shunned.Banned fromFFL andstalked. Thisjust doesn'tappear to bemuch of aspiritualgroup. Nowthat's ironic! ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL andDoug aren'tlike TheCorner wherethere is abouncer at thedoor with aprepared listof those whocan't even getin the room.Talk aboutcensorship andlack of freespeech. Inaddition, youcan't evenread anythingthere unlessyou are on thelist ofapprovedindividuals.And the guywho startedthat forum andthose who arein attendancewere the onesgiving Doug ahard timeabout the lackof free speechat FFL. Tooironic to bebelieved.Luckily, sinceI knoweveryone overthere and haveheard whatthey have tosay about ahundred timesI'm notremotelyinterested ingettingadmitted. Somethings justdon't getbetter withage. ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : InDoug'sdefense, notone person has*ever* beenbanned fromFFL for notmeeting hisdefinition of"spiritual". The reason afew werebanned, isthat theylacked basicsocial skills,and were moreinterested inbeing a painin the ass,vs.contributinganything ofsubstance. Hadnothing to dowith content,and everythingto do with notplaying wellwith others,due toimmaturity, alack ofmanners, andnoself-discipline. Perhaps youcould quitmaking shitup? Thanks inadvance.../// ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Whatyou may notrealize isthat the wayyou're runningthisdiscussionforum is justlike they runthe Dome -banning andshunningpeople that don't meet your definition of spiritual. You'reobviouslyselling TM andusing yourposition asFFL moderatorto enforc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
ananda, many things have happened. One would have to spend a lot of time investigating and looking at archives, etc. To what end? But if it gets your juices flowing, I'd say go for it. As for alleged banning and shunning, I think a healthy place to start is to look at one's own life and see what one is banning and shunning, avoiding etc. Just my opinion. From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. Apparently there are no current students posting here and only about five regular contributors. What happened? The group seems to be composed of people that all got kicked out, in one form or another, from the TM Org. But, the moderator seems t be making some status claims trying to sell TM. I'm simply pointing out that the individual members may not even realize the extent of the banning and shunning on the campus and on the FFL group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here? From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe they are scared. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right. From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM campus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around on the internet. Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's ironic! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not meeting his definition of "spiritual". The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everyth
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
ananda, I think, but am not 100% sure, that one can get banned for revealing the identity of someone who chooses to remain anonymous. I completely support this policy. Also, I tend to think that more transparency = more spiritual, mental and emotion health. Probably physical too. From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. Yes, I can understand, considering the banning and shunning, why anyone would want to post to FFL anonymously using an alias. What are the rules concerning revealing a member's identity? Thanks for the information. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Back in the olden days, when posting limits ruled the land, there was a strict rule about using only one identity to post. But, with the posting limits gone, and me not giving much of a firetruck what goes on around here, I'm content to let it slide. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug, the moderator, has apparently used numerous aliases. Is it against the rules to post anonymously to FFL? If so, you just set yourself up for at least a reprimand. Are you banned from the MUM campus? If so, for what reason? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seriously? This is him too? How many aliases does that make that he's using concurrently? I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude. A record! Sal #yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751 -- #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp #yiv6813109751hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp #yiv6813109751ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp .yiv6813109751ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp .yiv6813109751ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-mkp .yiv6813109751ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-sponsor #yiv6813109751ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-sponsor #yiv6813109751ygrp-lc #yiv6813109751hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751ygrp-sponsor #yiv6813109751ygrp-lc .yiv6813109751ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751activity span .yiv6813109751underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 dd.yiv6813109751last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6813109751 dd.yiv6813109751last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6813109751 dd.yiv6813109751last p span.yiv6813109751yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751file-title a, #yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751file-title a:active, #yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751file-title a:hover, #yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751photo-title a, #yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751photo-title a:active, #yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751photo-title a:hover, #yiv6813109751 div.yiv6813109751photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6813109751 div#yiv6813109751ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6813109751ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6813109751yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv6813109751 .yiv6813109751MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv6813109751 o {font-size:0;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv6813109751 #yiv6813109751photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here? From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe they are scared. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right. From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM campus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around on the internet. Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's ironic! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not meeting his definition of "spiritual". The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no self-discipline. Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance.../// ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet your definition of spiritual. You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force." Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions. What is your exact position, if any, with MUM? Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org? Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not? Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here. It is plenty past time to j
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right. From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM campus, etc. ananda_das_gupta So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around on the internet. Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's ironic! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not meeting his definition of "spiritual". The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no self-discipline. Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance.../// ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet your definition of spiritual. You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force." Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions. What is your exact position, if any, with MUM? Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org? Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not? Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here. It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the ‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish. Fairfield is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving readings. Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here. Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too. Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it. It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidel
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM campus, etc. From: ananda_das_gupta To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around on the internet. Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's ironic! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not meeting his definition of "spiritual". The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no self-discipline. Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance.../// ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet your definition of spiritual. You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force." Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions. What is your exact position, if any, with MUM? Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org? Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not? Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here. It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the ‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish. Fairfield is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving readings. Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here. Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too. Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it. It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against the community. IThis has been Self-destructive all along. The Dome badge guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shorthand, Jyotish Dates
yoohoo, don't forget the solar eclipse on Sept 1... From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 7:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Shorthand, Jyotish Dates I have never spent much time or money with jyotish as an ‘add-on’ to TM but Fairfield, Iowa has quite a lot of people trained up in jyotish and Western astrology. You can walk in most any eatery and ask patrons sitting there to get a quick answer to, what is up in jyotish? Some people are really into it. Yesterday I asked someone who was working on something else, just what is up with jyotish? Here is the shorthand accounting: Aug 18th Lunar Elcipse Aug 24 Saturn and Mars @ 15degrees of Scorpio, Transit characterized by ANGER. There is a star in Scorpio that is the war star in combination with Mars etc.. makes it all particularly difficult. Aug 26 Jupiter Venus Mercury in Virgo (something about Saraswati yoga, good to be meditating) Aug 30 Mercury retrograde in Virgo =Havoc in Communication Sept 17 Mars Exits Scorpio, the most difficult period passes .. #yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649 -- #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp #yiv3045144649hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp #yiv3045144649ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp .yiv3045144649ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp .yiv3045144649ad p {margin:0;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-mkp .yiv3045144649ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-sponsor #yiv3045144649ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-sponsor #yiv3045144649ygrp-lc #yiv3045144649hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649ygrp-sponsor #yiv3045144649ygrp-lc .yiv3045144649ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649activity span .yiv3045144649underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 dd.yiv3045144649last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv3045144649 dd.yiv3045144649last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv3045144649 dd.yiv3045144649last p span.yiv3045144649yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649file-title a, #yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649file-title a:active, #yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649file-title a:hover, #yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649photo-title a, #yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649photo-title a:active, #yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649photo-title a:hover, #yiv3045144649 div.yiv3045144649photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3045144649 div#yiv3045144649ygrp-mlmsg #yiv3045144649ygrp-msg p a span.yiv3045144649yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv3045144649 o {font-size:0;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv3045144649 #yiv3045144649reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv3045144649 .yiv3045144649replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv304514
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish: Trump to win in November
I was fascinated by a Western astrologer who said that of Bernie, Trump and Hillary, only the latter has a connection to a point called Destiny of the World. It will be active for her around the time of the election. Just as it was when her husband was elected! From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 8:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish: Trump to win in November That's interesting. I hope you are right. I don't know enough to evaluate it. I am also reading that there is some doubt about Hillary's exact birth time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, Using traditional jyotish, the jyotishi is making an accurate reading of Hillary Clinton's chart. However, since Clinton is now running the weak period of the Sun, she should not have done well against Bernie Sanders and should not have been the presidential candidate by the Democrats. Nonetheless, using the Nadi Jyotish techniques, we find a different picture of why Clinton has a stronger chart and would defeat Trump during election time. Specifically, Nadi Jyotish uses the sublords during the mahadasha as the indicator of things to come. In Clinton's case, she is indeed running the mahadasha of the Sun, which is debilitated in Libra. But the difference is the sublord of the Sun's placement in Libra which is Rahu. And Rahu is placed in the 7th house and exalted in Taurus. Further, her exalted Rahu means she can attract various sectors of the population, including minorities and the LGBT voters. On the other hand, Trump is also running the mahadasha of Rahu, but the sublord is Jupiter which is placed in the third house, a weak placement for Jupiter. Therefore, Clinton wins because of the strength of her sublord, which cannot be seen using traditional jyotish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alarming prediction from an astrologer who seems to know what he is talking about. Look at what Trump has going for him on Inauguration Day. See the details: Jyotish and the 2016 Presidential Election | | | | Jyotish and the 2016 Presidential Election Namaste, Interest in the upcoming US elections has been unprecedented. The US Independence chart recently began the major cycle of Rahu; when Rahu occupies the 8th house, it's period will bring fear, phobias, and poor judgement; in a country's chart, the prevale... | | | View on www.prasannanjyotish.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859 -- #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp #yiv5942340859hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp #yiv5942340859ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp .yiv5942340859ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp .yiv5942340859ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-mkp .yiv5942340859ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-sponsor #yiv5942340859ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-sponsor #yiv5942340859ygrp-lc #yiv5942340859hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859ygrp-sponsor #yiv5942340859ygrp-lc .yiv5942340859ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5942340859 #yiv5942340859activity span .yiv5942340859underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5942340859 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv5942340859 .yiv5942340859bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5942340859 dd.yiv5942340859last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5942340859 dd.yiv5942340859last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5942340859 dd.yiv5942340859last p span.yiv5942340859yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv5942340859 div.yiv
Re: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS?
The Bulgarian word for president ends in eht, thus is masculine, unless there's an exception floating around somewhere. Thank you for info. And I hope we're not headed for robotic presidents... From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS? Makes some sense; Wiki: Gender[edit] There are three grammatical genders in Bulgarian: masculine, feminine and neuter. The gender of the noun can largely be inferred from its ending: nouns ending in a consonant ("zero ending") are generally masculine (for example, град /ɡrat/ 'city', син /sin/ 'son', мъж /mɤʃ/'man'; those ending in –а/–я (-a/-ya) (жена /ʒɛˈna/ 'woman', дъщеря /dɐʃtɛrˈja/ 'daughter', улица /ˈulitsɐ/ 'street') are normally feminine; and nouns ending in –е, –о are almost always neuter (дете /dɛtɛ/ 'child', езеро /ˈɛzɛro/ 'lake'), as are those rare words (usually loanwords) that end in –и, –у, and –ю (цунами /tsoˈnami/ 'tsunami', табу /tɐˈbu/ 'taboo', меню /mɛˈnju/ 'menu'). Perhaps the most significant exception from the above are the relatively numerous nouns that end in a consonant and yet are feminine: these comprise, firstly, a large group of nouns with zero ending expressing quality, degree or an abstraction, including all nouns ending on –ост/–ест -{ost/est} (мъдрост /ˈmɤdrost/'wisdom', низост /ˈnizost/ 'vileness', прелест /ˈprɛlɛst/ 'loveliness', болест /ˈbɔlɛst/ 'sickness', любов /ljoˈbɔf/ 'love'), and secondly, a much smaller group of irregular nouns with zero ending which define tangible objects or concepts (кръв /krɤf/ 'blood', кост /kɔst/ 'bone', вечер /ˈvɛtʃɛr/ 'evening', нощ /nɔʃt/ 'night'). There are also some commonly used words that end in a vowel and yet are masculine: баща 'father', дядо 'grandfather', чичо / вуйчо 'uncle', and others. #yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609 -- #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp #yiv8361383609hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp #yiv8361383609ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp .yiv8361383609ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp .yiv8361383609ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-mkp .yiv8361383609ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-sponsor #yiv8361383609ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-sponsor #yiv8361383609ygrp-lc #yiv8361383609hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609ygrp-sponsor #yiv8361383609ygrp-lc .yiv8361383609ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8361383609 #yiv8361383609activity span .yiv8361383609underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8361383609 .yiv8361383609bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 dd.yiv8361383609last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8361383609 dd.yiv8361383609last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8361383609 dd.yiv8361383609last p span.yiv8361383609yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609file-title a, #yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609file-title a:active, #yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609file-title a:hover, #yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609photo-title a, #yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609photo-title a:active, #yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609photo-title a:hover, #yiv8361383609 div.yiv8361383609photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8361383609 div#y
Re: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS?
It could simply be that in her language, the word for president is masculine. Thus what she was saying is that Obama is the last male president. From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 8:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS? Vanga reached news headlines after predicting, in 1989, what many interpret to be the 9/11 terror attacks. Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing.— Predicted in 1989 by Baba Vanga[32] Vanga predicted that the 44th President of the United States will be African American, and the last US president.[33][34] Other of her predictions include that Europe will be transformed into an Islamic caliphate and the transformation will be complete in the year 2043, that communism will return to Europe and the rest of the world in 2076 and that there will be a war on Mars in 3005.[35] Due to the subjective nature of many predictions, many remain skeptical. #yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958 -- #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp #yiv3075653958hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp #yiv3075653958ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp .yiv3075653958ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp .yiv3075653958ad p {margin:0;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-mkp .yiv3075653958ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-sponsor #yiv3075653958ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-sponsor #yiv3075653958ygrp-lc #yiv3075653958hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958ygrp-sponsor #yiv3075653958ygrp-lc .yiv3075653958ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958activity span .yiv3075653958underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 dd.yiv3075653958last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv3075653958 dd.yiv3075653958last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv3075653958 dd.yiv3075653958last p span.yiv3075653958yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958file-title a, #yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958file-title a:active, #yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958file-title a:hover, #yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958photo-title a, #yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958photo-title a:active, #yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958photo-title a:hover, #yiv3075653958 div.yiv3075653958photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv3075653958 div#yiv3075653958ygrp-mlmsg #yiv3075653958ygrp-msg p a span.yiv3075653958yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv3075653958 o {font-size:0;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv3075653958reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv3075653958 .yiv3075653958replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv3075653958 #yiv30
Re: [FairfieldLife] Frank Zappa was so left he was right
noozguru, my former mother-in-law made a similar remark about Ayn Rand, that she was so far to the right that she was actually on the left! From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 11:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Frank Zappa was so left he was right A documentary profile of the avant-garage musician reveals his political conservatism. http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/frank-zappa-his-own-words-eat-question/Content?oid=22770669 Should be an interesting documentary. I didn't know Frank but met his son Ahmet once who was also in the same sector of the tech industry I was involved in. #yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181 -- #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp #yiv4039228181hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp #yiv4039228181ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp .yiv4039228181ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp .yiv4039228181ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mkp .yiv4039228181ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-sponsor #yiv4039228181ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-sponsor #yiv4039228181ygrp-lc #yiv4039228181hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-sponsor #yiv4039228181ygrp-lc .yiv4039228181ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181activity span .yiv4039228181underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 dd.yiv4039228181last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4039228181 dd.yiv4039228181last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4039228181 dd.yiv4039228181last p span.yiv4039228181yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181file-title a, #yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181file-title a:active, #yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181file-title a:hover, #yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181photo-title a, #yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181photo-title a:active, #yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181photo-title a:hover, #yiv4039228181 div.yiv4039228181photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039228181 div#yiv4039228181ygrp-mlmsg #yiv4039228181ygrp-msg p a span.yiv4039228181yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv4039228181 o {font-size:0;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181photos div div {border:1px solid #66;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv4039228181 .yiv4039228181replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv4039228181 #yiv4039228181ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv4039228181 input, #yiv4039228181 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4039228181 #y
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Agamas more important and prior to Vedas in hindu tradition
emptyb, you may find this interesting. In exposition on Veda in human physiology, Rajaram writes that the science of Agama is part of Sthapatya Veda that deals with sculpture, specifically how to make a sculpture or statue come to life. He associates each of 28 individual agamas with 28 joints in the human body. For example, he finds a correlation between the right elbow and Prodgitagama. All of this discussion is located in the chapter VIII having to do with the Upa vedas. From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 5:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Agamas more important and prior to Vedas in hindu tradition This is just Southern Tamil sewage asserting itself as "higher" than the Veda and more "pure" than anything accepted by those "northern brahmins". Here is a good general description: Agamas prescribe image worship in the place of rituals like Yajnas, mentioned in the Vedas. Agamas cover areas of worship inclusive of construction of the temples; the rules for installation and consecration of the deities; the methods of performing pujas in the temples; philosophy; recitation of mantras; worship involving figures or yantras; bhakti yoga; domestic rituals samskaras; rules of varnasrama-dharma and public festivals. Various Vaishnava traditions have different degree of adherence and various lists of texts included under the overall concept. The term Agama primarily means tradition; Agama represents the previously ordained practices generally held in regard (Agama loka-dharmanaam maryada purva-nirmita -Mbh 8.145.61). Agama is also that which helps to understand things correctly and comprehensively. Agama Shastras are not part of the Vedas. The Agamas do not derive their authority directly from the Vedas. They are Vedic in spirit and character and make use of Vedic mantras while performing the service. The Agama shastras are based in the belief that the divinity can be approached in two ways. It can be viewed as nishkala, formless – absolute; or as sakala having specific aspects. Nishkala is all-pervasive and is neither explicit nor is it visible. It is analogues, as the Agama texts explain, to the oil in the sesame-seed, fire in the fuel, butter in milk, and scent in flower. It is in human as antaryamin, the inner guide. It has no form and is not apprehended by sense organs, which includes mind. Sakala, on the other hand, is explicit energy like the fire that has emerged out of the fuel, oil extracted out of the seed, butter that floated to the surface after churning milk or like the fragrance that spreads and delights all. That energy can manifest itself in different forms and humans can approach those forms through appropriate means. The Agamas recognize that means as the archa, the worship methods unique to each form of energy-manifestation or divinity. The Vedas do not discuss about venerating the icons; though the icons (prathima or prathika) were known to be in use. Their preoccupation was more with the nature, abstract divinities and not with their physical representations. The Vedas did however employ a number of symbols, such as the wheel, umbrella, spear, noose, foot-prints, lotus, goad and vehicles etc. These symbols, in the later ages, became a part of the vocabulary of the iconography. There are also the Agama and Tantra ways of worship of the other gods, as Ganesa, Surya and Skanda. The Vaishnava theology of the Agama type is especially propounded in treatises like the The devotion with which the seeker of God tries to commune himself inwardly takes the shape of outer worship in the beginning with its usual traditions and regulations, requiring materials of worship such as flowers and offerings. There are three main divisions in Agama shastra, the Shaiva, the Shaktha and Vaishnava. The Shaiva branch of the Agama deals with the worship of the deity in the form of Shiva. This branch in turn has given rise to Shaiva Siddantha of the South and the Prathyabijnana School of Kashmir Shaivisim. The Shakta Agama prescribes the rules and tantric rituals for worship of Shakti, Devi the divine mother. The third one, Vaishanava Agama adores God as Vishnu the protector. This branch has two major divisions Vaikhanasa and Pancharatra. The latter in turn has a sub branch called Tantra Sara followed mainly by the Dvaita (Dualist) sects (i.e. Madhwas). Each Agama consists of four parts. The first part includes the philosophical and spiritual knowledge. The second part covers the yoga and the mental discipline. The third part specifies rules for the construction of temples and for sculpting and carving the figures of deities for worship in the temples. The fourth part of the Agamas includes rules pertaining to the observances of religious rites, rituals, and festivals. Agama is essentially a tradition and Tantra is a technique; but both share the same ideology.But,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Free will an illusion?
noozguru, this reminds me of something Gangaji says that I really like. She says that there is no doer. BUT, if you think there's a doer and you're it, then it's better if you do what you think is right. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: ff...@yahoogroups.com; "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 5:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Free will an illusion? Free will could all be an illusion, scientists suggest after study that shows choice could just be the brain tricking itself http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/free-will-could-all-be-an-illusion-scientists-suggest-after-study-that-shows-choice-could-just-be-a7008181.html Told ya so. Most likely you are following a script written at the inception of the universe. But don't get depressed, just live your live as if you have free will. What difference will it make? #yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355 -- #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp #yiv8505204355hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp #yiv8505204355ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp .yiv8505204355ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp .yiv8505204355ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mkp .yiv8505204355ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-sponsor #yiv8505204355ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-sponsor #yiv8505204355ygrp-lc #yiv8505204355hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-sponsor #yiv8505204355ygrp-lc .yiv8505204355ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355activity span .yiv8505204355underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 dd.yiv8505204355last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8505204355 dd.yiv8505204355last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8505204355 dd.yiv8505204355last p span.yiv8505204355yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355file-title a, #yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355file-title a:active, #yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355file-title a:hover, #yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355photo-title a, #yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355photo-title a:active, #yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355photo-title a:hover, #yiv8505204355 div.yiv8505204355photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8505204355 div#yiv8505204355ygrp-mlmsg #yiv8505204355ygrp-msg p a span.yiv8505204355yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv8505204355 o {font-size:0;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv8505204355 .yiv8505204355replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204355ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv8505204355 #yiv8505204
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
Well, it's ridiculous that his team never prepped him on the abortion issue. Jeez, it's the hot button of American politics. Actually HuffPost had a very thorough article about Trump and abortion. It noted that pro-lifers also disagreed with what Trump said. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? Share, Trump's comment about *punishing* women who have abortions ,as I said earlier, was meant to be *pandering* to conservatives and evangelicals because he thought that is what they wanted to hear. It became clear to him later that that is not how conservatives and evangelicals think, so he back peddled. I seriously doubt that he ever would have considered such a thing since he *used* to be pro choice. Well, Pro- life doesn't go along with that either. However I'll bet a dime to a doughnut hole that publications like Huffington Post and Saloon.com etc.are desperately trying to dig up some comment, some where, to indicate that is exactly what pro-lifers believe. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? The thing is, the abortion issue is so emotionally charged for so many people that we aren't even aware of our strong feelings about it. I've felt positive about Trump until I read that "punishment" comment wrt abortion. My reaction, which took me unawares, was instantaneous and irrevocable. And, for me, his backpedaling made it worse. Melania ignoring the comment made it worse. All in all, a PR nightmare. And I think he knows it. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 *times* harder." She was probably talking about his approach to foreign policy. He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get pregnant—all their fault. He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and attractive female. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder. And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html #yiv7399151236 #yiv7399151236 -- #yiv7399151236ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7399151236 #yiv7399151236ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7399151236 #yiv7399151236ygrp-mkp #yiv7399151236hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7399151236 #yiv7399151236ygrp-mkp #yiv7399151236ad
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
That's funny about Trump leaning left and Hillary leaning right, never thought of it that way. Bernie vs. Trump would be a good contest. But Bernie vs. Cruz would in some ways be even more fun. If it's Hillary vs. Cruz, she'll eat him alive! Hillary vs. Trump...ugh, it'll be a long, tedious summer! From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he would do any of these things. Analysts have pointed out that he has leaned more liberal in the past. Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to hear. But she's actually more right leaning. Bernie says what he's been saying for years. For some things he and Trump are on the same page. Now that would be a very interesting election! On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder. And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html #yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121 -- #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp #yiv4876344121hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp #yiv4876344121ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp .yiv4876344121ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp .yiv4876344121ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-mkp .yiv4876344121ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-sponsor #yiv4876344121ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-sponsor #yiv4876344121ygrp-lc #yiv4876344121hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121ygrp-sponsor #yiv4876344121ygrp-lc .yiv4876344121ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4876344121 #yiv4876344121activity span .yiv4876344121underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4876344121 .yiv4876344121attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4876344121 .yiv4876344121attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4876344121 .yiv4876344121attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4876344121 .yiv4876344121attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
The thing is, the abortion issue is so emotionally charged for so many people that we aren't even aware of our strong feelings about it. I've felt positive about Trump until I read that "punishment" comment wrt abortion. My reaction, which took me unawares, was instantaneous and irrevocable. And, for me, his backpedaling made it worse. Melania ignoring the comment made it worse. All in all, a PR nightmare. And I think he knows it. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 *times* harder." She was probably talking about his approach to foreign policy. He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get pregnant—all their fault. He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and attractive female. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder. And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html #yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960 -- #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp #yiv2724107960hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp #yiv2724107960ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp .yiv2724107960ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp .yiv2724107960ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-mkp .yiv2724107960ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-sponsor #yiv2724107960ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-sponsor #yiv2724107960ygrp-lc #yiv2724107960hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960ygrp-sponsor #yiv2724107960ygrp-lc .yiv2724107960ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2724107960 #yiv2724107960activity span .yiv2724107960underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2724107960 .yiv2724107960attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2724107960 .yiv2724107960attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2724107960 .yiv2724107960
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder. And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html #yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471 -- #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp #yiv9941795471hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp #yiv9941795471ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp .yiv9941795471ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp .yiv9941795471ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-mkp .yiv9941795471ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-sponsor #yiv9941795471ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-sponsor #yiv9941795471ygrp-lc #yiv9941795471hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471ygrp-sponsor #yiv9941795471ygrp-lc .yiv9941795471ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9941795471 #yiv9941795471activity span .yiv9941795471underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9941795471 .yiv9941795471bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 dd.yiv9941795471last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9941795471 dd.yiv9941795471last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9941795471 dd.yiv9941795471last p span.yiv9941795471yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471file-title a, #yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471file-title a:active, #yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471file-title a:hover, #yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471photo-title a, #yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471photo-title a:active, #yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471photo-title a:hover, #yiv9941795471 div.yiv9941795471photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9941795471 div#yiv9941795471ygrp-mlmsg #yiv9941
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html #yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572 -- #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp #yiv1501332572hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp #yiv1501332572ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp .yiv1501332572ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp .yiv1501332572ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mkp .yiv1501332572ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-sponsor #yiv1501332572ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-sponsor #yiv1501332572ygrp-lc #yiv1501332572hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-sponsor #yiv1501332572ygrp-lc .yiv1501332572ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572activity span .yiv1501332572underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 dd.yiv1501332572last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1501332572 dd.yiv1501332572last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1501332572 dd.yiv1501332572last p span.yiv1501332572yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572file-title a, #yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572file-title a:active, #yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572file-title a:hover, #yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572photo-title a, #yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572photo-title a:active, #yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572photo-title a:hover, #yiv1501332572 div.yiv1501332572photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1501332572 div#yiv1501332572ygrp-mlmsg #yiv1501332572ygrp-msg p a span.yiv1501332572yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv1501332572 o {font-size:0;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv1501332572 .yiv1501332572replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv1501332572 input, #yiv1501332572 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv1501332572 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv1501332572 #yiv1501332572ygrp-mlmsg * {line-hei
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary Who?
noozguru, hmmm, my guess is Trump realizes he can beat Hillary but isn't so sure about beating Bernie. So he's going full court press against Bernie now, maybe to slow Bernie's momentum, distract him, etc. Meanwhile, at least one well known jyotishi has said Trump will be the next president, having compared Trump's chart to that of the US. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FFL Freedom of Speech ; "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hillary Who? Looks like loose cannon Donald Trump is making this election between him and Bernie. :-D http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-violence_us_56e56a6fe4b0860f99d94f22 Gonna be a long hot summer. #yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798 -- #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp #yiv4869853798hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp #yiv4869853798ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp .yiv4869853798ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp .yiv4869853798ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mkp .yiv4869853798ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-sponsor #yiv4869853798ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-sponsor #yiv4869853798ygrp-lc #yiv4869853798hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-sponsor #yiv4869853798ygrp-lc .yiv4869853798ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798activity span .yiv4869853798underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 dd.yiv4869853798last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4869853798 dd.yiv4869853798last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4869853798 dd.yiv4869853798last p span.yiv4869853798yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798file-title a, #yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798file-title a:active, #yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798file-title a:hover, #yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798photo-title a, #yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798photo-title a:active, #yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798photo-title a:hover, #yiv4869853798 div.yiv4869853798photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4869853798 div#yiv4869853798ygrp-mlmsg #yiv4869853798ygrp-msg p a span.yiv4869853798yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv4869853798 o {font-size:0;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv4869853798 .yiv4869853798replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv4869853798 #yiv4869853798ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv4869853798 input, #yiv48
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Community Meeting w/ John Hagelin Can U share 4 us some salient points of the talk,PLEASE!
Agree with Doug that it was a fun presentation. Here are some notes I sent to friends: Very well attended. Dalby packed and they had overflow in a second room too. Insired by an event that occurred on Sept 9 2015. Both LIGO facilities, one in Louisiana and one in Washington state, received evidence of a gravitational wave, including a sound. (You can google LIGO.) John called it a chirp but to me it sounded more like a gulp LOL! Caused by the mergence of 2 black holes with each other a very long time ago (really big number I failed to record.). That released more energy than 1 billion trillion suns, which is how many we have in our known universe. (Definitely a presentation packed with big numbers!) Einstein had predicted gravitational waves but said we'd probably never be able to detect one because the conditions needed to create them are so extreme. One of my favorite points is that though a black hole emits no light or info, everything that goes into it, is remembered. Totally cool! From: "William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Community Meeting w/ John Hagelin Can U share 4 us some salient points of the talk,PLEASE! -Original Message- From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] To: FairfieldLife Sent: Thu, Mar 10, 2016 8:40 am Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Community Meeting w/ John Hagelin Today Hagelin’s talk was to a packed room. It was fun, he is fun. He is a good lecturer/teacher/professor. It was a prepared lecture presentation with really good powerpoint slide graphics. Went through Einstein and came forward to the present gravitational fields. Was personable and very well taught. A lot of the old community here came out for it. I don’t think it was recorded on video. He’ll probably record something later. He had some really funny quips throughout that were inside jokes with us as a community A remarkable note about this scheduled lecture was that people did not need a Dome badge at all to get in. In fact the presentation was advertised widely through local media for anyone to come. Someone went through the local factories and put up posters too. It was mostly ‘rus who came. I did see one factory tough there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Please can you post a video of this talk, if there is one? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : | TONIGHT!! Tuesday night March 8th Dalby Hall - 7:45 PM A Special Presentation by Dr. John Hagelin The Discovery of Gravitational Waves... And what they mean for you! | #yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320 -- #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp #yiv8633509320hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp #yiv8633509320ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp .yiv8633509320ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp .yiv8633509320ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-mkp .yiv8633509320ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-sponsor #yiv8633509320ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-sponsor #yiv8633509320ygrp-lc #yiv8633509320hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320ygrp-sponsor #yiv8633509320ygrp-lc .yiv8633509320ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8633509320 #yiv8633509320activity span .yiv8633509320underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8633509320 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8633509320 .yiv8633509320bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8633509320 dd.yiv8633509320last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8633509320 dd.yiv86335
Re: [FairfieldLife] Donald Trump Has Shakti Yoga
The Koch bros. destroyed the Republican Party when they stopped being Libertarians and began kowtowing to the Tea Party. Then the Tea Party continued the destruction. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Donald Trump Has Shakti Yoga Well... he's destroying the Republican party right now. If he wins the nomination fair and square, Hillary wins. If he loses and feels cheated and then runs as third party for revenge, Hillary wins. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Donald Trump Has Shakti Yoga According to jyotish texts, this is a yoga giving the individual tremendous power to do good or evil. Hitler, Mussulini and Albert Einstein had this "Shakti". IMO, Trump can destroy disorder, terrorists and foreign governments. But he can destroy the American government and religions as well, by the reactions that he gets from various groups in the country. As such, he is a very dangerous man for America and the world. The only factor that can stop him now is the transit of Saturn called "sade-sati", which can bring a downfall to his gain of power. He is in the middle of this transit which will last for another four years. I can describe these yogas in more detail if anyone is interested. #yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373 -- #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp #yiv4032206373hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp #yiv4032206373ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp .yiv4032206373ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp .yiv4032206373ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-mkp .yiv4032206373ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-sponsor #yiv4032206373ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-sponsor #yiv4032206373ygrp-lc #yiv4032206373hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373ygrp-sponsor #yiv4032206373ygrp-lc .yiv4032206373ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373activity span .yiv4032206373underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 dd.yiv4032206373last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4032206373 dd.yiv4032206373last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4032206373 dd.yiv4032206373last p span.yiv4032206373yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373file-title a, #yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373file-title a:active, #yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373file-title a:hover, #yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373photo-title a, #yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373photo-title a:active, #yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373photo-title a:hover, #yiv4032206373 div.yiv4032206373photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4032206373 div#yiv4032206373ygrp-mlmsg #yiv4032206373ygrp-msg p a span.yiv4032206373yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv4032206373 .yiv4032206373MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv4032206373 o {font-size:0;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv4032206373 #yiv4032206373photos div div {border:1px solid #66;hei
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
And for all three of these reasons, I would never run for public office! A few weeks ago I googled on Trump/Koch bros. Found a fascinating article about how the Koch bros. who were orignally Libertarian, sold out to the Tea Party. I think Trump is showing the Kochs and the Republicans how wrong they have been to let the Tea Party take over. For mainly this, I'm grateful to him. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Share, you are a woman in this life and a smart one, a fighter. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even primal ones. My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche. Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over and over again. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
Wow! In this case, she should do all she can to help the Democratic Party by throwing her support behind Bernie. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Wrong Anne. Anybody but Hillary or an avowed socialist. Besides, Hillary is under some serious investigation by the FBI right now. One hundred and fifty FBI agents are investigating her right now and a federal judge wants her server. She didn't delete 30,000 e-mails of yoga routines and wedding plans. That's called *obstruction of justice*. Obama can't pardon her because she hasn't been tried and convicted and if he refuses to indict her after an FBI recommendation to, all hell will break loose. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. This will never happen. Hillary will be our next President. Bernie scares too many who are irrationally afraid of "socialists" and there are not enough crazy Republicans to secure Trump as the next White House resident - I can see it now; everything done in Rococo style with plenty of dripping gold furniture and fixtures. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
He SOUNDS radical which is mainly what will influence most voters at this time in history. Few will go hunting down his past support of liberal causes, etc. As for being a wheeler dealer, I've heard that said about LBJ. People feel safe with a winner. As I said to Emily, this whole business of voting comes from very primal places in the psyche. Logic and reason have little to do with it for many voters. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Trump isn't radical. Just sounds that way because he comes off as an American version of Benito Mussolini. He's going to *make the trains run on time* kind of guy. He has supported a lot of liberal causes in the past and I doubt he has really changed. He is far more liberal than conservative but he knows how to *sell* himself. What I think makes this guy *dangerous* is how he will govern. He says he has mastered the *art of the deal* and that is how he will handle congress. "Give me what I want as a Republican or I'll give the Democrats what they want and make Republicans sorry that they didn't work with me". Democrats will be chomping at the bit to stick it to Republicans. This will work both ways, just depends on who has the majority in congress. He cares more about *winning* than conservative or liberal principals. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In Fairfiel
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
What you say is very logical and makes a lot of sense. However, most people operate from a different place than logic and sense, esp when it comes to politics which is so much about perception and unconscious motivations, even primal ones. My guess is most Americans don't like a smart woman. And they certainly don't like a smart woman who's also a "fighter." They like women who are like Sanders wife, very comforting and motherly. Or Melania who's gorgeous and supportive of her family. Again, these are very primal currents in the human psyche. Another factor which plays out on the subliminal level, is that Hillary looks like a Republican wife! Or Margaret Thatcher! As it is, we live in a very visual culture and these cues operate on very unconscious levels. Over and over and over again. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article I see it oppositely to you. Hillary could win and she could beat Trump. She is a fighter—one should never underestimate the power of woman of intention when she sets her mind to something. Hillary is a survivor and she is intelligent and knowledgable and experienced and dedicated. She is well spoken and she's thoughtful. She missteps here and there and because her every facial expression is being subjected to negative scrutiny and pronouncement and sexist attack, she suffers in the media. Her tone is sometimes off and her slogan and logo aren't the best. But, let us remember we aren't electing a slogan or a logo. I think she needs to blow by and play past the accusations and just laugh at the jokesters and let these things roll off her back a bit more. Stay focused on the positive message exclusively and the depth and intelligence she would bring to the White House. Relax, be herself and go for it. Bernie's better at just letting it all hang out. He doesn't apologize for himself and neither does Trump. She needs to stop explaining and start campaigning with unbounded enthusiasm everywhere she goes, making sure that her message is not about herself, but about the people. I think it is, honestly, but she needs to change her campaign message and her delivery and her demeanor some and stay on point. "Illegitimum non carborundum." She's breaking new ground. Bernie is primarily an activist and a good one who communicates his message clearly, but all his great ideas are underwritten by his single-minded focus (comes out in every one of his speeches no matter what the topic) to take down and disable the "wealth structure" and "make them pay." It's global, not limited to the U.S. and he won't be able to start making inroads into it "locally" (U.S.) without a major and sustained "revolution" on the part of the American people. We aren't there, we aren't even close. He should throw his support behind Hillary, when the time comes. And then, yes, keep the ball rolling with activism at the ground level, for the votes for our elected representatives, for continuing to educate the masses and the millennials that think he's a cutie pie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article
But this is how the American people feel. They are fed up with Congress. Both Sanders and Trump are radicals, albeit at opposite ends of a spectrum. This is what the American people want now, a radical, an outsider, etc. They are fed up with politicians, esp professional ones like Hillary. I agree. She could never beat Trump. But, if she were to support Bernie...the Democrats would have a real chance to win. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Again, that sounds very familiar. Screw congress, I'll do it myself! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Only familiar in the sense that this is how he's operated for a long time and he's honed his playground charisma to be the biggest and the best in the school yard. I can just see him berating Congress now"you guys are awkward foolsliars, all of you. Wimps, weak. I bet you couldn't pass a bill if you tried. The polls say people like me, by the way, don't forget. I'll make sure that all of you that vote against me will be thrown out of Congress...see those guys in black at the back; they wear their sunglasses at night. Heck, I'll do it myself. I don't need you. I have a billion dollars. I can run this country by myself. I'm comin' for you, don't forget. I'll sue the pants off of you. I have a lot of lawyers, friends in high places in penthouses. Watch your back and vote the way you know is right, my way or the highway." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well if Trump has any problems with congress, he can just call them racists and any other problems he has , he can just blame his predecessor. Sound familiar? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article Bernie and Trump may both be guilty of promising things they won't be able to deliver. Trump seems to have forgotten about Congress all together. He just thinks he's going to roll on in to the White House and start waving his gold plated trumpet and magically, the economy will rebuild (he does build things right?) and Obamacare will go away and immigrants will return in droves to their parent countries voluntarily. All on Day 1. What a guy. Bernie's education plan is right on the money, imho. Have you looked at the particulars? I like it. However, he's bound and determined to get it and everything else that I'm for from a source that has no on-switch at the current time and won't in the near future. " The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah, Bernie definitely offers more *free* stuff than Hillary. Bernsie wants to offer *free* higher education to all. Hillary just wants you to pay lower interest rates on your student loans. If you were a student, who would you vote for? When the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: very compelling article You know, he makes some excellent points. It is true that Hillary is not a great campaigner and she gets defensive, which doesn't come across well all the time. Politically, neither her logo or her slogan say it's about the people. They say it's about her. It is true that Trump will do everything he can to lynch her and he won't let up. If she defends, she loses. He will continue to play on people's fear and she will be facing plenty of sexism, the kind that isn't talked about, but that surely exists in the minds of both men and women. The undermining has already started and has been quite effective. I will agree that the more interesting match that would force us to choose ideologically would be a Sanders/Trump choice. SuperTuesday is around the corner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but Sanders can. Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | Current Affairs | | | | | | Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it’s long past time for the Democrats to sta... | | | View on static.currentaffairs.org| Preview by Yahoo | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa caucus bulletins
This morning I spoke with a guy who was caucusing at the county courthouse last night. It said it was packed with people trailing into the lobby and down the stairs. He figured it would have been impossible to get an accurate count in such circumstances. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa caucus bulletins The last I saw was, Bernsie was behind by about 5 votes. I think recounts are *out* when it comes to caucuses. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa caucus bulletins In Iowa as a whole, Bernie's behind Hillary by only 3/10 of a percentage point (49.6 to 49.9), according to the NYTimes this morning. Given the way delegates are allocated, this likely means the two will end up with the same number of Iowa delegates at the convention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Jefferson County, which includes Fairfield, went 73% for Sanders, 27% for Clinton -- an amazing result, and easily Bernie's biggest victory margin in Iowa. Nothing else came close. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As of midnight: AP projects Cruz beats Trump, 27.7% to 24.3%. Rubio is third with 23.1%. Clinton and Sanders are neck-and-neck, with Clinton very slightly ahead. O'Malley and Huckabee have suspended their campaigns. #yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492 -- #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp #yiv8331503492hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp #yiv8331503492ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp .yiv8331503492ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp .yiv8331503492ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-mkp .yiv8331503492ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-sponsor #yiv8331503492ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-sponsor #yiv8331503492ygrp-lc #yiv8331503492hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492ygrp-sponsor #yiv8331503492ygrp-lc .yiv8331503492ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492activity span .yiv8331503492underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 dd.yiv8331503492last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8331503492 dd.yiv8331503492last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8331503492 dd.yiv8331503492last p span.yiv8331503492yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492file-title a, #yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492file-title a:active, #yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492file-title a:hover, #yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492photo-title a, #yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492photo-title a:active, #yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492photo-title a:hover, #yiv8331503492 div.yiv8331503492photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8331503492 div#yiv8331503492ygrp-mlmsg #yiv8331503492ygrp-msg p a span.yiv8331503492yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv8331503492 .yiv8331503492MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv8331503492 o {font-size:0;}#yiv8331503492 #yiv8331503492photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bernie Sanders at MUM > Maharishi Univertsity of Management
LOL, the funny thing is I know 2 of the people in the photo...and they don't even practice TM anymore! All in all, unresearched journalism and inaccurate subject line. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 8:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bernie Sanders at MUM > Maharishi Univertsity of Management Om,the bell (of invincibility?) tolls for integrity.. OldTM'ers quite evidently are masters of spin, the Drs of spin. Whocrafted that subject line and sent it out? Share writes: Bernie was at the convention center near the town square. He wasn't on the MUM campus. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : classic movement spin,or campaign spin?Who sent this subject line?Is this being forwarded around? Did Bernie visit MUM? At all? Before or after he was at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center?Bernie drove by MUM possibly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The transcendental meditationists who turned an Iowa farm town into a Bernie base The transcendental meditationists who turned an Iowa farm town into a Bernie base | | | | | | | | | | | The transcendental meditationists who turned an Iowa far...Fairfield, the enlightenment capital of southeast Iowa, is backing Sen. Sanders in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. | | | | View on www.washingtonpos... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | With the caucuses just days away, this unlikely mecca forpractitioners of Transcendental Meditation is getting a jolt ofactivity. There have been visits from Hillary Clinton, as well as HUDSecretary Julián Castro, her who-knows-maybe potential running mate. TedCruz drew a big crowd to the small convention center here on a Tuesdaynight.But it was Bernie Sanders whosevisit Thursday got the most buzz about town — and it’s he who mightbenefit most from the Maharishi effect.“Herepresents a higher level of cognitive development,” said Sam Farling, avolunteer organizer here for Sanders. “Hillary Clinton may have thealmost militaristic level of organizing — but we have the passion.” PLS READ MORE, ITS AN PHANTASTIC ARTICLE OF THE WASHINGTON POST. JUST ENJOY . **_** #yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643 -- #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp #yiv8589628643hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp #yiv8589628643ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp .yiv8589628643ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp .yiv8589628643ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-mkp .yiv8589628643ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-sponsor #yiv8589628643ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-sponsor #yiv8589628643ygrp-lc #yiv8589628643hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643ygrp-sponsor #yiv8589628643ygrp-lc .yiv8589628643ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8589628643 #yiv8589628643activity span .yiv8589628643underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8589628643 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8589628643 .yiv8589628643bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8589628643 dd.yiv8589628643last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8589628643 dd.yiv8589628643last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8589628643 dd.yiv8589628643last p span.yiv8589628643yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8589628643 div.yiv8589628643attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8589628643 div.yiv8589628643attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8589628643 div.yiv8589
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bernie Sanders at MUM > Maharishi Univertsity of Management
Bernie was at the convention center near the town square. He wasn't on the MUM campus. From: "email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bernie Sanders at MUM > Maharishi Univertsity of Management The transcendental meditationists who turned an Iowa farm town into a Bernie base The transcendental meditationists who turned an Iowa farm town into a Bernie base | | | | | | | | | | | The transcendental meditationists who turned an Iowa far...Fairfield, the enlightenment capital of southeast Iowa, is backing Sen. Sanders in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. | | | | View on www.washingtonpos... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | With the caucuses just days away, this unlikely mecca for practitioners of Transcendental Meditation is getting a jolt of activity. There have been visits from Hillary Clinton, as well as HUD Secretary Julián Castro, her who-knows-maybe potential running mate. Ted Cruz drew a big crowd to the small convention center here on a Tuesday night. But it was Bernie Sanders whose visit Thursday got the most buzz about town — and it’s he who might benefit most from the Maharishi effect. “He represents a higher level of cognitive development,” said Sam Farling, a volunteer organizer here for Sanders. “Hillary Clinton may have the almost militaristic level of organizing — but we have the passion.” PLS READ MORE, ITS AN PHANTASTIC ARTICLE OF THE WASHINGTON POST. JUST ENJOY . **_** #yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300 -- #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp #yiv0195483300hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp #yiv0195483300ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp .yiv0195483300ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp .yiv0195483300ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-mkp .yiv0195483300ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-sponsor #yiv0195483300ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-sponsor #yiv0195483300ygrp-lc #yiv0195483300hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300ygrp-sponsor #yiv0195483300ygrp-lc .yiv0195483300ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0195483300 #yiv0195483300activity span .yiv0195483300underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 dd.yiv0195483300last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0195483300 dd.yiv0195483300last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0195483300 dd.yiv0195483300last p span.yiv0195483300yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300file-title a, #yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300file-title a:active, #yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300file-title a:hover, #yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300photo-title a, #yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300photo-title a:active, #yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300photo-title a:hover, #yiv0195483300 div.yiv0195483300photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0195483300 div#yiv0195483300ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0195483300ygrp-msg p a span.yiv0195483300yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv0195483300 .yiv0195483300MsoNormal {m
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump || |||| Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ...|| | View on www.nationalreview...|Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639 -- #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp #yiv5208229639hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp #yiv5208229639ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp .yiv5208229639ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp .yiv5208229639ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp .yiv5208229639ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-sponsor #yiv5208229639ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-sponsor #yiv5208229639ygrp-lc #yiv5208229639hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-sponsor #yiv5208229639ygrp-lc .yiv5208229639ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span .yiv5208229639underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 dd.yiv5208229639last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 dd.yiv5208229639last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 dd.yiv5208229639last p span.yiv5208229639yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a:active, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a:hover, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a:active, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a:hover, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 div#yiv520822
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A FFL Survey Query, Post Count
first attended MIU in 1975, for one year, then onto MIU staff for ~ yearattended MUM 1991-92, MA in SCIattended MUM 92-95, MS in Psychology lived in FF on and off from 1975 to 1980returned to FF in 1988 and have lived here ever since, first 14 years on campus, moved off campus in Sept 2002 From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A FFL Survey Query, Post Count Ever attended MIU/MUM? Or as a meditator lived in Fairfield, Ia?Visited?What time-frame? awoelflebater writes, Attended MIU from 1975-1980. Left for two years and came back for two more years from 1982-1984. authfriend writes:I did my two-week "flying block" at MIU/MUM in summer 1984 (I think it was). Bhairitu writes: As I have mentioned many times on FFL, I visited "Sonoma in the Corn Fields" (Fairfield), once in the late 1990s for a conference. However in 1982 I had planned to join friends who moved to Fairfield but plans got changed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks, for the RSVP. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surveying, How many of you reading or writing here at FFL have been to Fairfield, Iowa?As a meditator? Otherwise, I am wanting to survey some policy things with you for input, but first I amcurious as how many here reading FFL actually have been to Fairfield, Iowa and meditated in Fairfield, Iowa?..at some point in your lives? ? RSVP? Attended MIU from 1975-1980. Left for two years and came back for two more years from 1982-1984. For the shy or anonymous readers who are not members here with posting privileges you too can respond to this survey with an e-mail to the owner listed at the bottom of the FFL home page. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/info In surveying, I would be glad to hear from you privately, even hear your story with TM. Thanks, -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 01/16/16 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 01/23/16 00:00:00 150 messages as of (UTC) 01/18/16 23:47:38 32 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 31 awoelflebater 16 steve.sundur 16 emily.mae50 9 dhamiltony2k5 8 olliesedwuz 8 Bhairitu noozguru 5 s3raphita 4 yifuxero 4 jr_esq 4 hepa7 4 emptybill 2 salyavin808 2 email4you mikemail4you 1 martin.quickman 1 feste37 1 William Leed WLeed3 1 Doug Hamilton dhamiltony2k5 1 'Rick Archer' rick Posters: 19 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com #yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422 -- #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp #yiv9828227422hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp #yiv9828227422ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp .yiv9828227422ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp .yiv9828227422ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-mkp .yiv9828227422ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-sponsor #yiv9828227422ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-sponsor #yiv9828227422ygrp-lc #yiv9828227422hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422ygrp-sponsor #yiv9828227422ygrp-lc .yiv9828227422ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9828227422 #yiv9828227422activity span .yiv9828227422underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9828227422 .yiv9828227422attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9828227422 .yiv9828227422attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9828227422 .yiv9828227422attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9828227422 .yiv9828227422attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9828227422 .yiv9828227422attach label a {text-decorati
[FairfieldLife] Saturn, Jupiter and 5 more years of...
...loss of individual rights. At least according to this article: http://www.vedicsoftware.com/SaJpDecl.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Nanobots in our Brains
But JR, the world is also Brahman. What's not to be attached to?! Also, shouldn't we send lovingkindness to Rahu too? (-: From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Nanobots in our Brains People have enough problem with robots running around in the outside world so they definitely don't want their coursing through their veins. On 10/01/2015 10:21 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kurzweil appears to be trying to reach enlightenment by using high technology. With these nanobots, humans could instead become more attached to the world since high technology is represented by Rahu in jyotish terminology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ray Kurzweil is a nutcase which is how fellow scientists view him. He designed a good synth but that's about all. He's afraid of death but to my knowledge has never looked into kaya kalpa which is the Indian method of slowing aging (and very simple). Back in the 1950s scientists like this were called "eggheads." On 10/01/2015 10:29 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ray Kurzweil thinks they can make us "Godlike". What do you think? RayKurzweil: Tiny Robots In Our Brains Will Make Us 'Godlike' | | | | | | RayKurzweil: Tiny Robots In Our Brains Will Make Us ... Once we're cyborgs, he says, we'll be funnier, sexier and more loving.| | | View on www.huffingtonpost.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611 -- #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp #yiv0787511611hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp #yiv0787511611ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp .yiv0787511611ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp .yiv0787511611ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-mkp .yiv0787511611ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-sponsor #yiv0787511611ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-sponsor #yiv0787511611ygrp-lc #yiv0787511611hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611ygrp-sponsor #yiv0787511611ygrp-lc .yiv0787511611ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0787511611 #yiv0787511611activity span .yiv0787511611underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 dd.yiv0787511611last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0787511611 dd.yiv0787511611last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0787511611 dd.yiv0787511611last p span.yiv0787511611yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611file-title a, #yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611file-title a:active, #yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611file-title a:hover, #yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611photo-title a, #yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611photo-title a:active, #yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611photo-title a:hover, #yiv0787511611 div.yiv0787511611photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0787511611 div#yiv0787511611ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0787511611ygrp-msg p a span.yiv0787511611yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv0787511611 .yiv0787511611MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv0787511611 o {font-si
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?
John, thanks for your in depth analysis of his chart. Very fascinating. Is there any candidate who you think has a chart for winning? From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? MD, Share, and Ann He was indeed born as a Leo ascendant with Mars in the first house and the Sun and Rahu are placed in the powerful 10th house, the field of career. Using regular Parasara jyotish indicators, his chart looks powerful since he is now running the main period of an exalted Rahu in the 10th house. So, he is getting a lot of notoriety by proposing drastic measures against undocumented immigrants (signified by Rahu) by sending them back to their home country and by building a fence along the border to exclude aliens (Rahu). However, the subperiod of Mars, starting in October 31, 2015, shows the weakness of his chart. Mars is placed in the 12th house of loss in the navamsa chart. So, his apparent popularity will wane during the subperiod. Using Nadi astrology technique, the sublord of Rahu is Jupiter, which is placed in the second house, and is the lord of the 5th and 8th house of failure and misery. So, the facade of success is being projected by Rahu, the planet of deceit and illusion. But, in reality, the true indicator of his chart is Jupiter which shows the failure of his campaign against the undocumented immigrants. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I'll be waiting. Thanks Yeah, me too. I am sure I could give you a far more likely synopsis of the man and his chances for Presidency. Or, at least what I hope his chances are. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? MD and Share, This is an interesting discussion. To determine how well Trump will do during the campaign, one has to know what period he is running right now. I'll research this later as I've go to do some business this afternoon. It would also help to analyze his chart by using the Nadi astrology techniques. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Nakshatra for rising sign, as article states, is Magha. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? So, what would his nakshatra be? From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? from Carol Allen's newsletter dated Aug 15 According to thecalculations of Vedic astrology (which differ from Western by almost anentire sign) he’s a Gemini (they like to diversify, are easily bored,and enjoy new challenges – writing and media, especially) with therising sign of Leo, and the Moon sign of Scorpio. The Leo and Scorpio parts of his nature are why he’s so brash, and “large and in charge.” The rising signindicates the way the world sees you, and your public persona. Leo, ofcourse, is the sign of royalty. And his rising sign degree is in earlyLeo, falling into the ancient Vedic constellation of Leo known as Magha,meaning “the mighty one.” Magha is the most competitive and driven ofthe three Vedic signs in Leo. (L. Ron Hubbard had his Moon here…). So, Donald sees himself as a King, and others do as well. Not only was hisstation in life inherited (like any royal) he has vast territories, andhis holdings are garish and ostentatious. (Ever seen pics of Trump Toweror Mar-A-Lago? Super palatial…) The thing that really makes him a king, though, is that he has Mars in the first house in Leo. For those blessedto be born with this regal sign in the position of the first house intheir horoscope, Mars becomes a planet of great power, known as a RajaYoga planet, because it “rules” both an angle and trine (in this case,the 4th and 9th houses). From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? Do you have a chart for Trump? From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? The author seems to like the idea that Trump will be the GOP presidential candidate. But that could also spell the end of the GOP as a party. Find out why. Please, read this quote from Trump and it may make your day. "I think the only difference betwee
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?
Nakshatra for rising sign, as article states, is Magha. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? So, what would his nakshatra be? From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? from Carol Allen's newsletter dated Aug 15 According to the calculations of Vedic astrology (which differ from Western by almost an entire sign) he’s a Gemini (they like to diversify, are easily bored, and enjoy new challenges – writing and media, especially) with the rising sign of Leo, and the Moon sign of Scorpio. The Leo and Scorpio parts of his nature are why he’s so brash, and “large and in charge.” The rising sign indicates the way the world sees you, and your public persona. Leo, of course, is the sign of royalty. And his rising sign degree is in early Leo, falling into the ancient Vedic constellation of Leo known as Magha, meaning “the mighty one.” Magha is the most competitive and driven of the three Vedic signs in Leo. (L. Ron Hubbard had his Moon here…). So, Donald sees himself as a King, and others do as well. Not only was his station in life inherited (like any royal) he has vast territories, and his holdings are garish and ostentatious. (Ever seen pics of Trump Tower or Mar-A-Lago? Super palatial…) The thing that really makes him a king, though, is that he has Mars in the first house in Leo. For those blessed to be born with this regal sign in the position of the first house in their horoscope, Mars becomes a planet of great power, known as a Raja Yoga planet, because it “rules” both an angle and trine (in this case, the 4th and 9th houses). From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? Do you have a chart for Trump? From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? The author seems to like the idea that Trump will be the GOP presidential candidate. But that could also spell the end of the GOP as a party. Find out why. Please, read this quote from Trump and it may make your day. "I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful."- Donald Trump Is This the End of the GOP? || |||| Is This the End of the GOP? What we are looking at is a middle class that is dying, literally, and a party that supposedly represents them holding their head under water. As long as the GOP f...| | | View on www.huffingtonpost.com |Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107 -- #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp #yiv2043442107hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp #yiv2043442107ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp .yiv2043442107ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp .yiv2043442107ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-mkp .yiv2043442107ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-sponsor #yiv2043442107ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-sponsor #yiv2043442107ygrp-lc #yiv2043442107hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107ygrp-sponsor #yiv2043442107ygrp-lc .yiv2043442107ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2043442107 #yiv2043442107activity span .yiv2043442107underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2043442107 .yiv2043442107attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2043442107 .yiv2043442107attach div a {tex
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?
More from Carol Allen's Aug 15 newsletter While the rising sign represents our “Mask to the world” it’s the Moon sign that reveals our emotional nature. As I said, Trump has the Moon in the sign of Scorpio. One of my astrology teachers always said that people with the Moon in the sign of Scorpio were POWERFUL. (I see it in the charts of entrepreneurs and dynamos of all kinds all the time – Oprah has this, as well!) Scorpio people are also “ruled” by Mars and it’s important to note that Trump’s Vedic Moon sign (the smaller sign in Scorpio) is translated to mean “The Chief.” It’s classified as a “demon” constellation – this doesn’t make him “bad” or “evil” – but it does make his emotional nature and way of relating to be very emotionally intense, dramatic, and independent. Those born in the “demon” constellations are happy to be “out of step” wish social mores, and to “March to their own drummer.” They care more about living from their truth than pleasing people, hence his insistence that “getting along” and “political correctness” aren’t what matters. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? Do you have a chart for Trump? From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? The author seems to like the idea that Trump will be the GOP presidential candidate. But that could also spell the end of the GOP as a party. Find out why. Please, read this quote from Trump and it may make your day. "I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful."- Donald Trump Is This the End of the GOP? || |||| Is This the End of the GOP? What we are looking at is a middle class that is dying, literally, and a party that supposedly represents them holding their head under water. As long as the GOP f...| | | View on www.huffingtonpost.com |Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839 -- #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp #yiv8154065839hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp #yiv8154065839ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp .yiv8154065839ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp .yiv8154065839ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp .yiv8154065839ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-sponsor #yiv8154065839ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-sponsor #yiv8154065839ygrp-lc #yiv8154065839hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-sponsor #yiv8154065839ygrp-lc .yiv8154065839ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span .yiv8154065839underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 dd.yiv8154065839last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 dd.yiv8154065839last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 dd.yiv8154065839last p span.yiv8154065839yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8154065839 div.yiv8154065839attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 div.yiv8154065839attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8154065839 div.yiv8154065839file-title a, #yiv8154065839 div.yiv8154065839file-title a:active, #yiv8154065839 div.yiv8154065
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP?
from Carol Allen's newsletter dated Aug 15 According to the calculations of Vedic astrology (which differ from Western by almost an entire sign) he’s a Gemini (they like to diversify, are easily bored, and enjoy new challenges – writing and media, especially) with the rising sign of Leo, and the Moon sign of Scorpio. The Leo and Scorpio parts of his nature are why he’s so brash, and “large and in charge.” The rising sign indicates the way the world sees you, and your public persona. Leo, of course, is the sign of royalty. And his rising sign degree is in early Leo, falling into the ancient Vedic constellation of Leo known as Magha, meaning “the mighty one.” Magha is the most competitive and driven of the three Vedic signs in Leo. (L. Ron Hubbard had his Moon here…). So, Donald sees himself as a King, and others do as well. Not only was his station in life inherited (like any royal) he has vast territories, and his holdings are garish and ostentatious. (Ever seen pics of Trump Tower or Mar-A-Lago? Super palatial…) The thing that really makes him a king, though, is that he has Mars in the first house in Leo. For those blessed to be born with this regal sign in the position of the first house in their horoscope, Mars becomes a planet of great power, known as a Raja Yoga planet, because it “rules” both an angle and trine (in this case, the 4th and 9th houses). From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? Do you have a chart for Trump? From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is this the End of the GOP? The author seems to like the idea that Trump will be the GOP presidential candidate. But that could also spell the end of the GOP as a party. Find out why. Please, read this quote from Trump and it may make your day. "I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful."- Donald Trump Is This the End of the GOP? || |||| Is This the End of the GOP? What we are looking at is a middle class that is dying, literally, and a party that supposedly represents them holding their head under water. As long as the GOP f...| | | View on www.huffingtonpost.com |Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839 -- #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp #yiv8154065839hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp #yiv8154065839ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp .yiv8154065839ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp .yiv8154065839ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-mkp .yiv8154065839ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-sponsor #yiv8154065839ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-sponsor #yiv8154065839ygrp-lc #yiv8154065839hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839ygrp-sponsor #yiv8154065839ygrp-lc .yiv8154065839ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8154065839 #yiv8154065839activity span .yiv8154065839underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 .yiv8154065839bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8154065839 dd.yiv8154065839last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 dd.yiv8154065839last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8154065839 dd.yiv8154065839la
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Trump Is Doing Well & The Girly Men Are Not
Mars in Leo in the first houseSun in 11th in Gemini in Nakshatra ruled by MarsMoon in Scorpio which is also ruled by Mars He can't help himself (-: From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why Trump Is Doing Well & The Girly Men Are Not Donald Trump: Warrior male extraordinaire Exclusive:Kent G. Bailey, Ph.D., says such men have 'sustained the human race' Published: 3days ago By Kent G. Bailey, Ph.D. In 1987, I published the first book in the field of Human Paleopsychology. This approach is premised on two basic assumptions:First, human beings have an ancient and rich evolutionary history, and second,that ancient history is thoroughly involved in everything we feel, think and dopersonally, politically and morally. According to famed neuroscientist PaulMacLean, the human brain is composed of a primeval reptilian segment at thelowest level, a mammalian segment at mid-level and a human or neocorticalsegment at the highest level. I added the notion that we human beings areconstantly “regressing down” or “progressing up” MacLean’s triune brain systemin the natural flow of behavior. The concept of “paleopolitics” is an obviousderivative of human paleopsychology. Indeed, we may easily infer that humansare, at base, political animals who obey more the law of the jungle than thepieties of high culture or the moral righteousness of the godly. Politics isselfish and egoistic, tribalistic and xenophobic to its core, and will readilygo to war to win at any cost. It sells itself as “progressive” and of higherthings yet most often operates in the gutters of human nature. Politics is notfor fops, Pollyannas or the faint-hearted; it is internecine war by anothername. It is the game of war, and only the true warriors win. In the past 60 years or so, America has becomeprogressively feminized, and the archetypal warrior male has virtuallydisappeared. However, some tough ladies have stepped in to fill the vacuumincluding Phyllis Schlafly, LauraIngraham, Sarah Palin and Michelle Malkin and many others. But how would any ofthese wonderful and strong women compete head-to-head in a private conferenceroom with Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un of North Korea, or the mullahs and emirsof the volatile Middle East? We have seen how poorly our currentgirly-man-in-chief, Barack Obama, has dealt with the world of violentsupermales out there. From the dawn of time, mutual respect among warrior malesis the coin of the realm in these matters. Fox News’ Megyn Kelly seems to see herself as an alphafemale capable of taking on any and all opposition – male or female. Yet, whenset against the unadulterated masculine intellectual powers and cunning ofDonald Trump, it was not a fair fight. She was overpowered to the point ofspeechlessness and had to take a 10-day vacation to lick her wounds. When theladies operate within a protective penumbra of political correctness in ahighly feminized culture of girly men, it is pretty easy to win intellectualpillow fights. In 2006, I published a column suggesting that Ann Coulter was the last of the “real men” on the intellectual right. I believethat Ann is the closest on the distaff side to the “in your face warrior hawk”profiled in that article. She may be the brightest and most courageousconservative intellectual in the country who can breathe fire when fire isneeded – and that is most of the time. She has wonderfully set the stage forher male warrior counterpart, Donald Trump, who takes primal maleness to levelsunseen for at least half a century. The everyday people of America long forstrong warrior male leadership of the kind that has sustained the human racefrom the dawn of time. Donald Trump is the prototypical, archetypal andtestosterone-driven alpha male who rules by the sheer force of his personality,imposing physique, quick wit, mastery of repartee and almost hypnotic controlover his gathering masses of adoring followers. He is Attila to the Huns, HenryV to the outnumbered English army, Winston Churchill to desperate alliedforces, and now our fearless leader against the pagan forces of progressivismand political correctness. He is the unapologetic, quintessential warrior maleof yore capable of vanquishing any and all opposition in his way. Trump is not a clown, a bloviating buffoon, anintimidating bully, or just a really rich guy hoping to buy America as a shinynew toy. He is ambitious to a fault, relentless in his desire to control, ownand build, and he has success written into the DNA of every cell of his body.Yes, he is egotistical, over the top at times, and less soft and sentimentalthan some would like, but I think he would do pretty well in that closedconference room with Putin or Kim. They would respect him but not necessarilylike him. These are the ways of the warrior males who have ruled the world fromthe beginning of ti
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist?
Salyavin, I'm gonna combine your two responses, one to me and one to JR, and respond to both. Here's our exchange: Hi salyavin, it's neither knowing nor believing. It's experiencing and then interpreting or labeling. I bet "believing" happens in its very own section of the brain. (-: But labeling something a god is surely belief? Salyvin, if the first human labeled something "tree," was there a belief involved?! I think what you're getting at, esp in your response to JR, is that we label something as god or divine and these words have meanings that are problematic. But why are they? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin, Believing is the initial cognition of a Divine Being after experiencing all of the information from the world through the five senses. Knowing a Divine Being is the stage of believing in which the mind is convinced of Its existence through the information from the senses. Enlightenment occurs when the mind and It are one and coexist in the body as it lives in the world. Convinced is a worrying word for me in this instance, labeling experiences as some sort of "other" is making unwarranted assumptions. I could call it all-round superniceness and it would be the same thing, it's us who call it divine and thus dump our needy baggage all over it. An artificial machine cannot experience the Divine as the human body can. Therefore, it cannot believe nor experience enlightenment. How do you know? If we build a machine that mimics ourselves perfectly, who are we to say that it can't have joyous experiences. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi salyavin, it's neither knowing nor believing. It's experiencing and then interpreting or labeling. I bet "believing" happens in its very own section of the brain. (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : IMO, I don't believe artificial intelligence can know God. Knowing God requires a biological base, with a complicated connections of nerve cells in the brain and a body structure made of bones, flesh and blood. "Know" god? Don't we mean "believe"? I'm sure a computer could acquire beliefs about where it came from, probably worship it's creator, at least they won't be in error about who that is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This article is full of inaccurate generalities about Buddhism and shows ignorance about the foundations of the varied darshana-s of the Indian subcontinent. Since most current Euro-American "thinkers" who consider consciousness and AI are philosophical amateurs, this article is a display of truncated post-empirical/analytic musings. How about this question instead? Can an artificial intelligence know God? This is an equivalent counter-question, which means it is a panapoly of foolish assumptions posing as intelligent inquiry. #yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807 -- #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp #yiv0039790807hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp #yiv0039790807ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp .yiv0039790807ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp .yiv0039790807ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-mkp .yiv0039790807ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-sponsor #yiv0039790807ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-sponsor #yiv0039790807ygrp-lc #yiv0039790807hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807ygrp-sponsor #yiv0039790807ygrp-lc .yiv0039790807ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0039790807 #yiv0039790807activity span .yiv0039790807underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0039790807 .yiv0039790807attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0039790807 .yiv0039790807attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv003979
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist?
Hi salyavin, it's neither knowing nor believing. It's experiencing and then interpreting or labeling. I bet "believing" happens in its very own section of the brain. (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : IMO, I don't believe artificial intelligence can know God. Knowing God requires a biological base, with a complicated connections of nerve cells in the brain and a body structure made of bones, flesh and blood. "Know" god? Don't we mean "believe"? I'm sure a computer could acquire beliefs about where it came from, probably worship it's creator, at least they won't be in error about who that is! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This article is full of inaccurate generalities about Buddhism and shows ignorance about the foundations of the varied darshana-s of the Indian subcontinent. Since most current Euro-American "thinkers" who consider consciousness and AI are philosophical amateurs, this article is a display of truncated post-empirical/analytic musings. How about this question instead? Can an artificial intelligence know God? This is an equivalent counter-question, which means it is a panapoly of foolish assumptions posing as intelligent inquiry. #yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796 -- #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp #yiv6277951796hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp #yiv6277951796ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp .yiv6277951796ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp .yiv6277951796ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-mkp .yiv6277951796ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-sponsor #yiv6277951796ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-sponsor #yiv6277951796ygrp-lc #yiv6277951796hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796ygrp-sponsor #yiv6277951796ygrp-lc .yiv6277951796ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796activity span .yiv6277951796underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 dd.yiv6277951796last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6277951796 dd.yiv6277951796last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6277951796 dd.yiv6277951796last p span.yiv6277951796yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796file-title a, #yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796file-title a:active, #yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796file-title a:hover, #yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796photo-title a, #yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796photo-title a:active, #yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796photo-title a:hover, #yiv6277951796 div.yiv6277951796photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6277951796 div#yiv6277951796ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6277951796ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6277951796yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv6277951796 .yiv6277951796MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv6277951796 o {font-size:0;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv6277951796 #yiv6277951796photos div label {color:#6
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick, Thanks for All the Good Times
Yep, thanks, Rick, it's been beyond interesting (-: From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick, Thanks for All the Good Times Not sure what all the fuss is about. Things change. People change. It's not like we don't have choices. Oh, if you need a character witness for Edg's threatened lawsuit, (jeez, if I had a nickel for each time I've heard that, I'd have at least a $1.50 by now), let me know. I imagine you'd have no shortage in the department. Anyway, keep up the good work!! #yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383 -- #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp #yiv4370019383hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp #yiv4370019383ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp .yiv4370019383ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp .yiv4370019383ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mkp .yiv4370019383ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-sponsor #yiv4370019383ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-sponsor #yiv4370019383ygrp-lc #yiv4370019383hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-sponsor #yiv4370019383ygrp-lc .yiv4370019383ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383activity span .yiv4370019383underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 dd.yiv4370019383last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4370019383 dd.yiv4370019383last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4370019383 dd.yiv4370019383last p span.yiv4370019383yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383file-title a, #yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383file-title a:active, #yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383file-title a:hover, #yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383photo-title a, #yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383photo-title a:active, #yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383photo-title a:hover, #yiv4370019383 div.yiv4370019383photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4370019383 div#yiv4370019383ygrp-mlmsg #yiv4370019383ygrp-msg p a span.yiv4370019383yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv4370019383 o {font-size:0;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv4370019383 .yiv4370019383replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv4370019383 input, #yiv4370019383 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4370019383 #yiv4370019383ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv4370019383 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv437001938
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is this Unification I keep hearing about?
salyavin, how did this subject get on both FFLs?! A kind of unification? (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is this Unification I keep hearing about? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, in the end of your essayhere you would burn Hagelin at the stake like they burnt GiordinoBruno for introducing a complex idea of unification? In myexperience I am fine with the 'parallelism' between the explorationsof physics and experience of inner consciousness. Yep, absolutely inprocess take observation, draw hypothesis and make tests. It'squite objective enough in my experience and in replication evidently. As with Bruno's observation and idea, civilized folks could sit with this in process testing it some more and in time in a direction may seem more evident, like our sun has become but another distantstar in mortal time. But stay the match, Hagelin is okay being a torchcarrier on this present version of unification. Or, maybe it is justsomething personal you have with Hagelin or his guru, some hurtfeelings, that you'd like to see either of them on a funeral pyre andlight the match? -JaiGuruYou Hmm, can't see anything in there about burning Hagelin at the stake, or anyone actually. I leave that sort of thing to religious folks who don't like the heretical opinions of apostates. Hurt feelings? That's an interesting statement. I would say no. I loved TM from the get-go but never understood the C as UF reference in the intro talk. I quizzed the teacher about whether he was serious or using an analogy but he didn't know anything about it either. But the idea he has that he has finished Einstein' work really does annoy me though, partly because it patently isn't true. Another of the reasons is that he uses his PHD to hoodwink people who don't know anything about physics into thinking that he's something he's not and that science is at a place that it's not. I think people should have more respect for the work of others rather than just use it to promote their own, wild and untested ideas. It does science a disservice you see. For everyone that goes on a TM course and gets the Hagelin lecture and goes home believing it is one person who might have become interested in what is really going on in physics. But I know people who like TM physics but not tested, working stuff "because it's boring." Each to their own, I think it's sad. Go figure. One of the things I want to know is whether there actually is a connection between physics and inner consciousness. Just saying you agree with the idea doesn't help with that, I want a convincing and workable theory or link to one but I haven't seen it. Or maybe I didn't get my main points over well enough? Basically, John Hagelin is claiming that spiritual and physical unification is the same thing, not an analogy at all. And I don't understand it but I get why I'm supposed to think TM is a gateway to my own experience of it due to expansive feelings of awareness etc A unification of two ideas should make things both simpler and more powerful as explanations and gives us a deeper vision into how the world works and these mystical ideas don't do that do they? I can't explain it any better than that. I hope his ideas do get accepted though as it would be an enjoyably surreal day when he picks up his Nobel prize with his raja costume on! Long, long way to go though and stopping selling yagya's on the back of it would be a fine start for his campaign of acceptability. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the 15th century a chap called Giordino Bruno had an astounding idea. He theorised that the sun is just another star but much closer than the others which is why it is so much bigger and brighter than them. Seems astoundingly obvious to us now but in those days it was a revolutionary thought - and a heretical one as far as the church was concerned - it was also the first unification in physics. Unification means the bringing together of different things, things thought to be different. To be fair to his contemporaries who scoffed, there was no way to test this radical viewpoint but, unfortunately for Bruno, scientists weren't treated with the respect they are now and the implication that there were other worlds - and therefore other people - was too much for the church and he was burned at the stake for his trouble. Many more unification's followed, some of them were right and some were found to be wrong and got discarded. The successful ones all founded amazing and rich new sciences. Darwin unified all life on Earth. Where previously it had been thought that species were eternal and created by god for some specific lifestyle, Darwin showed that not only are they all related via a common ancestor, they have changed over time. Dramatic stuff. We can't imagine what the world was like before
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FF Meditating Community
feste, loving what you say here that's so true, esp the part about having the common background and also respecting all the different paths. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FF Meditating Community Yes, good analysis. I remember those days of the daily trudge or car ride to the dome, seeing people I didn't actually know but whose faces became very familiar. It was indeed the daily communal ritual; it was the glue that held us together. Now it has largely fallen away, although of course many people do still go. But in some ways we are almost in a post-TM era here now. I know so many people who no longer practice TM or care about anything the TMO does. It is just no longer a part of their lives. Instead of having one communal meeting ground every day, twice a day, people have developed a network of smaller groups, from the Sufis to Waking Down (just to give two examples) to cater to their particular post-TM interests. And yet is it wonderful that almost all of us have that common background. We understand each other in ways that would not be possible without it. I spent over 30 years doing TM and do not regret a single moment spent with eyes closed in the dome or elsewhere. But I have no desire to practice any form of meditation now. I have moved on, and others have too. I also find there is tremendous respect among the post-TMers for all the different paths or no paths that people have chosen to best satisfy their spiritual needs as they understand them now, 40-50 years (in many cases) since we first began this long journey, in a puja room somewhere with incense burning, a picture of the guru—and the imminence of "transcendence," that sudden strange fall . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Living in the meditating community it is interesting that the meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa is large enough that we do not necessarily know each other in it. Living here you recognize folks as part of the tribe. In the tribe there evidently are circles of folks something like guilds by affinity of interests or work that might overlap like Venn diagrams do. It used to be easier to recognize folks twenty years ago when the meditation numbers where significantly higher whence twice a day lots of meditators regardless of social economics, rank or element in the community, everyone walked in to the Domes shoulder-to-shoulder for meditation. The Dome meditation times then also served as communal 'check-in' times with friends and the larger meditating community. The Dome numbers have fragmented and diminished since those times and elements of the tribe have drifted a part from each other but there can still be overlap. And every once in a while you meet someone who has been living here in the larger meditating community for 20, 30 or 40 years that you never met before. For the last year or so as a 'town meditator' I have been on committees meeting up on campus and it has been a revelation at times putting some faces to names of folks up there in that part of the meditating community. And, also renewing old friendships of people who have been around for decades here. -JaiGuruYou Edg writes: Never met George. Two decades in FF, and nope. But I heard his name every single week there...the guy was a true community gluer. Had to be that he was a solid Joe. #yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736 -- #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp #yiv0874978736hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp #yiv0874978736ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp .yiv0874978736ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp .yiv0874978736ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-mkp .yiv0874978736ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-sponsor #yiv0874978736ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-sponsor #yiv0874978736ygrp-lc #yiv0874978736hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736ygrp-sponsor #yiv0874978736ygrp-lc .yiv0874978736ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0874978736 #yiv0874978736activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv087
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone
That's ok. I am enjoying the seeming chaos (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, actually it's a bit of a 3 ring circus now with people on all 3 sites talking about the other sites! Wonder if that will settle out...well, you made a good try with your Scientology post. Just curious, how come you're not posting on FFL2? I shall try and post across the ever growing diaspora of FFL, might be tricky keeping track of it all though! I shall sort out a Salyavin email address so I don't get confused... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 1:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Has MJ been banished too? Is it karma that has come a full circle? It appears that Nature has a way of cleaning up the forum to pave a new phase for FFL. Yes indeed, MJ is over on the naughty step with the other miscreants. So it's a new phase for sure, but is it a better one? Maybe when people here stop talking about people there and post some stuff we'll see what we've lost without the wit and wisdom of the forcibly departed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "insulting and ridiculing and misrepresenting others"? MJ was canned for voicing an opinion about Marshy. That's free speech. You perhaps saw it as an insult. I'm sure the comment could have been justified by MJ - If he'd had the chance, but he didn't. No free speech you see. Barry got the boot for a criticism of David Lynch. That too was easily justifiable. I think you have some confusion between your own biases and the right of others to think different differently. Respecting the right of both to exist side by side is the essence of free speech. Got it now? Happy to help. Your friends are waiting in the sandbox. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug is right here, and I think calling this new group Free Speech is a misnomer, as Doug implies. It's more a question of civility than free speech. IIf, say, you go to a party and spend your time there insulting and ridiculing and misrepresenting others, you will likely be asked to leave. But would it be fair to call that a curtailment of your right to free speech? I don't think so. It would just be an adverse commentary on your boorish social behavior, which you would be well advised to amend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As someone pointed out down at Paradiso Cafe in Fairfield, Iowa this morning aboutthe creation of FFL2 for the FFL-banished, these fox may not have fun forlong by themselves without also having hens to pick on. Makingstraw-men may suffice for some while and keep them from tearing ateach other for some time. The Yahoo-groups guidelines eventuallywill find and rule them where ever they may go as they meet up withkind people in civil society. A character of violence in civilsociety often is that it is self-limiting in nature and the asocialtend to isolate themselves. Thanks for better facilitating that, Alex.-JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On a whim, I made a FFL free speech zone. Use it. Don't use it. Doesn't matter to me. Just letting you know it's there. Yahoo! Groups | | | | | | Yahoo! Groups Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content. | | | View on groups.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | Thank God, now maybe we can get some peace around here from all the whining. I think you might have wanted to call the new site "australia". #yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237 -- #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp #yiv3671094237hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp #yiv3671094237ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp .yiv3671094237ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp .yiv3671094237ad p {margin:0;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-mkp .yiv3671094237ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-sponsor #yiv3671094237ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-sponsor #yiv3671094237ygrp-lc #yiv3671094237hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237ygrp-sponsor #yiv3671094237ygrp-lc .yiv3671094237ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv3671094237 #yiv3671094237activity {background-color:#e0ecee;flo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My two cents
salyavin, in the movie of the same name, Lucy says time is the basis of reality. Meaning that if something is traveling faster than the speed of light, it basically doesn't exist! Of course, this is not a documentary, but fabulous nonetheless about time and evolution and human development. I'm obviously on a Lucy kick today. (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My two cents ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, I think the key phrase in your response is what you say about inferred knowledge, that it lacks the data to demonstrate. I'd agree that it lacks the data to demonstrate that it's more than just a meaning given by humans. But I think I've driveled something similar before. (-: Yep, that is indeed the point. We must be careful what definitions we ascribe to experiences. to the world as revealed by our eyes and ears, it's really hard to know what is going on just from looking at something as we see so little of it. It takes clever experiment to work things out that aren't immediately available and the more data we get about everything the more the explanations have to grow to encompass it all. A decent model of consciousness will have to include spiritual experiences and why they impress us so much, but will it include a link to particle physics? I think the mystics are in dreamland on that one. I don't mind dry and dusty at all. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My two cents ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : hi salyavin, glad you're still here. And now I'm really wishing you were here in Fairfield. Because you'd find many folks who like you find dinosaurs spiritual. Or birds or trees or even plastic bags! This is what I've been trying to convey to you and Curtis too. That many people here have grown beyond a bounded view of human development. Based on their own experiences. Now, the other topic I'd like to address, and this is my response to your post about evolution and science and at a deeper level, what is real. Isn't the determination of what is "real" dependent upon when one takes the photo? IOW, considering the process during which a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, if we take the photo at a certain point in that process, we could say the caterpillar is gone. But is that real? Or said another way, is that the whole picture? The trick is you have to be sure that you get as much of the picture before making statements about accuracy. In the case of a butterfly it would be impossible to fathom it's life until you know all the stages but once you do it's impossible to think there is something else hiding undiscovered. Most aspects of life are the same, what else could there be to mankind in a real sense as opposed to us just making stuff up about funny trips we've had? Spiritual is what things mean to us, not a reflection of any intrinsic value in nature. We infer that an inner experience is a profound understanding of nature but you can't have inferred knowledge, there is no such thing. It's just a guess based on what we want to be true, or lack the objectivity or data to demonstrate otherwise. Science is how we've learned not to fool ourselves. So I'm very wary of spiritual claims of knowledge gained through revelation. With any experience I have, whether during TM or outside of it, I wonder, "Is this the whole picture?" And I think many of us long term TMers have come to realize that there is no static whole picture, that it is an ever unfolding experience of what it means to be a ever unfolding human in an ever unfolding universe. Excellent. Rejecting the guru's teaching is a good first step. Just don't replace it with your own drivel ;-) This experience makes one a scientist, but one who is full of wonder and joy about what is being observed. This is what I sense in you too and what makes me think you'd enjoy a visit to Fairfield. You say "but" I would say that science starts with a sense of wonder and more importantly, a desire to explain what we experience. The idea of the scientist as a dry and dusty individual with no sense of romance is way wide of the mark. Just don't multiply entities unnecessarily (Occam's razor) From: salyavin808 wrote : But it's the Funny Farm Lounge. Weshould expect knee-jerk abusive and often obscene ranting from theinmates. I just don't want to see discussion narrowed to some"sheltered view of spirituality." Yup. "Spiritual" means different things to different people, it isn't just a term for airy-fairy daydreams about awakening into a sea of bliss. I find dinosaurs very spiritual because thinking about the deep past and the sense of time passing and the unpredictable future of life gives me a sense of perspective in my day. A sense of place in the universe, and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My two cents
salyavin, I think the key phrase in your response is what you say about inferred knowledge, that it lacks the data to demonstrate. I'd agree that it lacks the data to demonstrate that it's more than just a meaning given by humans. But I think I've driveled something similar before. (-: I don't mind dry and dusty at all. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My two cents ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : hi salyavin, glad you're still here. And now I'm really wishing you were here in Fairfield. Because you'd find many folks who like you find dinosaurs spiritual. Or birds or trees or even plastic bags! This is what I've been trying to convey to you and Curtis too. That many people here have grown beyond a bounded view of human development. Based on their own experiences. Now, the other topic I'd like to address, and this is my response to your post about evolution and science and at a deeper level, what is real. Isn't the determination of what is "real" dependent upon when one takes the photo? IOW, considering the process during which a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, if we take the photo at a certain point in that process, we could say the caterpillar is gone. But is that real? Or said another way, is that the whole picture? The trick is you have to be sure that you get as much of the picture before making statements about accuracy. In the case of a butterfly it would be impossible to fathom it's life until you know all the stages but once you do it's impossible to think there is something else hiding undiscovered. Most aspects of life are the same, what else could there be to mankind in a real sense as opposed to us just making stuff up about funny trips we've had? Spiritual is what things mean to us, not a reflection of any intrinsic value in nature. We infer that an inner experience is a profound understanding of nature but you can't have inferred knowledge, there is no such thing. It's just a guess based on what we want to be true, or lack the objectivity or data to demonstrate otherwise. Science is how we've learned not to fool ourselves. So I'm very wary of spiritual claims of knowledge gained through revelation. With any experience I have, whether during TM or outside of it, I wonder, "Is this the whole picture?" And I think many of us long term TMers have come to realize that there is no static whole picture, that it is an ever unfolding experience of what it means to be a ever unfolding human in an ever unfolding universe. Excellent. Rejecting the guru's teaching is a good first step. Just don't replace it with your own drivel ;-) This experience makes one a scientist, but one who is full of wonder and joy about what is being observed. This is what I sense in you too and what makes me think you'd enjoy a visit to Fairfield. You say "but" I would say that science starts with a sense of wonder and more importantly, a desire to explain what we experience. The idea of the scientist as a dry and dusty individual with no sense of romance is way wide of the mark. Just don't multiply entities unnecessarily (Occam's razor) From: salyavin808 wrote : But it's the Funny Farm Lounge. Weshould expect knee-jerk abusive and often obscene ranting from theinmates. I just don't want to see discussion narrowed to some"sheltered view of spirituality." Yup. "Spiritual" means different things to different people, it isn't just a term for airy-fairy daydreams about awakening into a sea of bliss. I find dinosaurs very spiritual because thinking about the deep past and the sense of time passing and the unpredictable future of life gives me a sense of perspective in my day. A sense of place in the universe, and it's real. On 07/07/2015 01:17 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm mystified as to why youthink that the alternative to having a moderated group asit is evolving here on FFL is a "bliss ninny" group.That's absurd. I am all for vigorous discussion, opposingpoints of view, and honest dialogue. I am against the kindof knee-jerk abusive and often obscene ranting against allthings spiritual that went on here up until the last fewweeks. And for all the abuse Doug has taken, one wouldhardly realize that he has been a good exponent of exactlywhat you are calling for in your post: a discussion of"where things have gone" in the TMO and where they aregoing. Many of his comments and insights over the last fewyears have been very astute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As faras I'm concerned Rick set the"community standards" as he defines it on the headerfor thegroup. If you don't like them then start yet anotherbliss ninnygroup. Those seem to be extremely popular and longlived. :-D I've been online since the early 1980s. I've seenmany a BBS comeand go. I've seen heavy handed moderators come and gotoo. Seemsthat late comers have a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone
light bulb just went on over my head...hope it stays on LOL! From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone Salyavin is posting on FFL2, but FFL2 is not configured with Yahoo's anonymity system, so posts show up with an email address and not a Yahoo handle. I'm not the least bit bothered that Ravi posts here as he pleases, even though he is supposedly banned, but the security hole that lets him do it is not something I wanted configured into the new group. It's easy to make an anonymous email address, and there are a number of different free and paid options for VPN/proxies that will hide your IP address. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, actually it's a bit of a 3 ring circus now with people on all 3 sites talking about the other sites! Wonder if that will settle out...well, you made a good try with your Scientology post. Just curious, how come you're not posting on FFL2? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 1:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Has MJ been banished too? Is it karma that has come a full circle? It appears that Nature has a way of cleaning up the forum to pave a new phase for FFL. Yes indeed, MJ is over on the naughty step with the other miscreants. So it's a new phase for sure, but is it a better one? Maybe when people here stop talking about people there and post some stuff we'll see what we've lost without the wit and wisdom of the forcibly departed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "insulting and ridiculing and misrepresenting others"? MJ was canned for voicing an opinion about Marshy. That's free speech. You perhaps saw it as an insult. I'm sure the comment could have been justified by MJ - If he'd had the chance, but he didn't. No free speech you see. Barry got the boot for a criticism of David Lynch. That too was easily justifiable. I think you have some confusion between your own biases and the right of others to think different differently. Respecting the right of both to exist side by side is the essence of free speech. Got it now? Happy to help. Your friends are waiting in the sandbox. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug is right here, and I think calling this new group Free Speech is a misnomer, as Doug implies. It's more a question of civility than free speech. IIf, say, you go to a party and spend your time there insulting and ridiculing and misrepresenting others, you will likely be asked to leave. But would it be fair to call that a curtailment of your right to free speech? I don't think so. It would just be an adverse commentary on your boorish social behavior, which you would be well advised to amend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As someone pointed out down at Paradiso Cafe in Fairfield, Iowa this morning aboutthe creation of FFL2 for the FFL-banished, these fox may not have fun forlong by themselves without also having hens to pick on. Makingstraw-men may suffice for some while and keep them from tearing ateach other for some time. The Yahoo-groups guidelines eventuallywill find and rule them where ever they may go as they meet up withkind people in civil society. A character of violence in civilsociety often is that it is self-limiting in nature and the asocialtend to isolate themselves. Thanks for better facilitating that, Alex.-JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On a whim, I made a FFL free speech zone. Use it. Don't use it. Doesn't matter to me. Just letting you know it's there. Yahoo! Groups | | | | | | Yahoo! Groups Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content. | | | View on groups.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | Thank God, now maybe we can get some peace around here from all the whining. I think you might have wanted to call the new site "australia". #yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425 -- #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp #yiv4903660425hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp #yiv4903660425ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp .yiv4903660425ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp .yiv4903660425ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-mkp .yiv4903660425ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-sponsor #yiv4903660425ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4903660425 #yiv4903660425ygrp-spons
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone
salyavin, actually it's a bit of a 3 ring circus now with people on all 3 sites talking about the other sites! Wonder if that will settle out...well, you made a good try with your Scientology post. Just curious, how come you're not posting on FFL2? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 1:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zone ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Has MJ been banished too? Is it karma that has come a full circle? It appears that Nature has a way of cleaning up the forum to pave a new phase for FFL. Yes indeed, MJ is over on the naughty step with the other miscreants. So it's a new phase for sure, but is it a better one? Maybe when people here stop talking about people there and post some stuff we'll see what we've lost without the wit and wisdom of the forcibly departed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "insulting and ridiculing and misrepresenting others"? MJ was canned for voicing an opinion about Marshy. That's free speech. You perhaps saw it as an insult. I'm sure the comment could have been justified by MJ - If he'd had the chance, but he didn't. No free speech you see. Barry got the boot for a criticism of David Lynch. That too was easily justifiable. I think you have some confusion between your own biases and the right of others to think different differently. Respecting the right of both to exist side by side is the essence of free speech. Got it now? Happy to help. Your friends are waiting in the sandbox. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug is right here, and I think calling this new group Free Speech is a misnomer, as Doug implies. It's more a question of civility than free speech. IIf, say, you go to a party and spend your time there insulting and ridiculing and misrepresenting others, you will likely be asked to leave. But would it be fair to call that a curtailment of your right to free speech? I don't think so. It would just be an adverse commentary on your boorish social behavior, which you would be well advised to amend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As someone pointed out down at Paradiso Cafe in Fairfield, Iowa this morning aboutthe creation of FFL2 for the FFL-banished, these fox may not have fun forlong by themselves without also having hens to pick on. Makingstraw-men may suffice for some while and keep them from tearing ateach other for some time. The Yahoo-groups guidelines eventuallywill find and rule them where ever they may go as they meet up withkind people in civil society. A character of violence in civilsociety often is that it is self-limiting in nature and the asocialtend to isolate themselves. Thanks for better facilitating that, Alex.-JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On a whim, I made a FFL free speech zone. Use it. Don't use it. Doesn't matter to me. Just letting you know it's there. Yahoo! Groups | | | | | | Yahoo! Groups Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content. | | | View on groups.yahoo.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | Thank God, now maybe we can get some peace around here from all the whining. I think you might have wanted to call the new site "australia". #yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371 -- #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp #yiv4039279371hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp #yiv4039279371ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp .yiv4039279371ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp .yiv4039279371ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-mkp .yiv4039279371ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-sponsor #yiv4039279371ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-sponsor #yiv4039279371ygrp-lc #yiv4039279371hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371ygrp-sponsor #yiv4039279371ygrp-lc .yiv4039279371ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4039279371 #yiv4039279371activity span .yiv4039279371underline {text-deco
[FairfieldLife] speaking of evolution...
I highly recommend the movie Lucy with Scarlett Johanson and Morgan Freeman. Lots of violence and medical gore but if you can keep that from sticking, it's an amazing movie about full human development. Literally! But to say more would spoil the fun (-: I never studied evolution in high school or college so I definitely appreciate the movie's scenes having to do with that. And even more, I love that full development of her brain is portrayed as the basis of her unusual abilities. And the very end will knock your socks off!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My two cents
hi salyavin, glad you're still here. And now I'm really wishing you were here in Fairfield. Because you'd find many folks who like you find dinosaurs spiritual. Or birds or trees or even plastic bags! This is what I've been trying to convey to you and Curtis too. That many people here have grown beyond a bounded view of human development. Based on their own experiences. Now, the other topic I'd like to address, and this is my response to your post about evolution and science and at a deeper level, what is real. Isn't the determination of what is "real" dependent upon when one takes the photo? IOW, considering the process during which a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, if we take the photo at a certain point in that process, we could say the caterpillar is gone. But is that real? Or said another way, is that the whole picture? With any experience I have, whether during TM or outside of it, I wonder, "Is this the whole picture?" And I think many of us long term TMers have come to realize that there is no static whole picture, that it is an ever unfolding experience of what it means to be a ever unfolding human in an ever unfolding universe. This experience makes one a scientist, but one who is full of wonder and joy about what is being observed. This is what I sense in you too and what makes me think you'd enjoy a visit to Fairfield. From: salyavin808 wrote : But it's the Funny Farm Lounge. Weshould expect knee-jerk abusive and often obscene ranting from theinmates. I just don't want to see discussion narrowed to some"sheltered view of spirituality." Yup. "Spiritual" means different things to different people, it isn't just a term for airy-fairy daydreams about awakening into a sea of bliss. I find dinosaurs very spiritual because thinking about the deep past and the sense of time passing and the unpredictable future of life gives me a sense of perspective in my day. A sense of place in the universe, and it's real. On 07/07/2015 01:17 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm mystified as to why youthink that the alternative to having a moderated group asit is evolving here on FFL is a "bliss ninny" group.That's absurd. I am all for vigorous discussion, opposingpoints of view, and honest dialogue. I am against the kindof knee-jerk abusive and often obscene ranting against allthings spiritual that went on here up until the last fewweeks. And for all the abuse Doug has taken, one wouldhardly realize that he has been a good exponent of exactlywhat you are calling for in your post: a discussion of"where things have gone" in the TMO and where they aregoing. Many of his comments and insights over the last fewyears have been very astute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As faras I'm concerned Rick set the"community standards" as he defines it on the headerfor thegroup. If you don't like them then start yet anotherbliss ninnygroup. Those seem to be extremely popular and longlived. :-D I've been online since the early 1980s. I've seenmany a BBS comeand go. I've seen heavy handed moderators come and gotoo. Seemsthat late comers have a creepy idea of what moderationis about. TM is just dime store yoga taught at Neumann-Marcusprices. itwas better when it wasn't so pretentious but then mostpeopledidn't know that much about yoga back then. We'vecome a longways. This is a good forum to discuss where thingshave gone evenif it riles TBs. On 07/07/2015 11:38 AM,feste37 wrote: Ithink it's part of whatmoderating is about. For example, I often read thecomments section in articles in the Guardian. Onerecentcomment got deleted, with the following message: "This comment was removed by a moderator becauseit didn'tabide by our communitystandards. Replies may also be deleted." This is very common and I have no objection tosomethinglike it being implemented at FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Andthat'snot what "moderating" isabout. It's for extreme circumstances whichareusually rare. Youshould never give moderation over to a techilliterate. It justmakes them a laughing stock. Perhaps it's time to create an FFL-Ex YahooGroup. ;-) On 07/07/2015 11:13 AM,salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : It'sverysimple, Duv. Thereare now some community standards to beobservedwhenposting to this group. There is nothingremarkable aboutthat. It is long overdue. Rubbish, MJ got kicked fornothingthathasn't been said a million timesbefore, sowhat ifBuck decides it's suddenly beyond thepale tohave anopinion he doesn't like? That's all itis.Sheeropportunism and hide behind theguidelines. Wearen'tchildren for god's sake. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : It'sonyouRICK ARCHER. You have not even oncecomehere and explained why you are okaywithwhat Dougis doing here. It's as if you said, "Let's fuck uptheplace andsee what comes out of the ashes." Did yousay that? We don't know, and that's on you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
yes, salyavin, I would miss you and your delightful sense of humor. So there! It's true that you don't have to have been in Fairfield to have an opinion about TM'ers. But for me it makes the opinion more valid, if it's based on in person observation. Otherwise and this often is the case on FFL, the anti TM responses seem like knee jerk reactions rooted in the past. I think all humans have a vested interest in their conclusions and interpretations. Scientists we're often not! Still owe you a response...sweet dreams (-: From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, Jai Guru You! I love how you keep saying bye but remain. Yay! Consider that I keep getting re-incarnated as the same thing. But you ignored my main point which is people are saying negative stuff and haven't even been in Fairfield, Ground Zero, in decades! Was that your main point? I thought it was that you'd miss me. Boo! I don't think you need have to have been in Fairfield at all to have an opinion about the TMO or TM as it all occurs in the head. And no matter how good a time you're having it doesn't change what I've seen and done. I'd like to know more about FF but no one ever posts anything because it gets analysed by people like me who might have a different viewpoint to what you've decided you want to hear. The recent "vedic" psychiatry debate springs to mind. I had some good questions about it for BUck but he didn't respond. We have the net to keep us informed of how the inner workings of the TMO are going you see so we don't have to visit FF, the changes to the websites tell us a lot.What people post here tells us a lot. The thing is we all have a vested interest in our spiritual alma mater and how it turns out. Trouble is somebody round here doesn't want us to take part because we are "apostates". It's a silly term from a silly man who has ended up with too much power which he wields without considering the long term ramifications of his actions for the place. But then he doesn't take part himself so why should he care? Come on guys, get a little hands on and current experience before you wade in! Get a little present day skin in the game! But having said that, I realize it's just my opinion, just my preference. And I'm a little OCD so some of the repetition zones me out. My bad! Yes, life, Jai Guru Life, abounds in irony (-: I finally looked up TTFN... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Though I will miss salyavin's science contributions and Xeno's dry humor and rationality, turq's passion and urbanity, I will enjoy immensely the absence of the deluge of anti TMO offerings, largely because they are made far far away from Ground Zero, so to speak. And I will even more immensely enjoy the more tamasic of said negative rantings. Rajo guna I don't mind so much (-: Hey, whatdya know , I'm still here! Jai Guru Me! But I don't really think there's been a deluge of anti-TMO offerings. What I recall is a lot of people who have personal and first hand experience of the weird cult that is TM have expressed - and justified - opinions that people like you and Buck don't like. Why you don't like it is a mystery to me, this is - or was - a discussion room for people with opinions about TM, the TMO and anything else, to share. It's all on the home page. But now Buck has assumed control and deleted all the interesting posters this place is now effectively just a bliss bunny forum with nothing to say. This is sad. The natural conclusion of censorship is that the only posts remaining are the ones nobody wants to read. Look at what Buck used as an excuse to get rid of MJ. It's pathetic. I can't believe you lot are just going to go along with it and not object. But I guess that's what lifetime in a cult does for you. I remember being in the TMO and voicing a contrary opinion and was told that this is a dictatorship and my opinion wasn't relevant if it contradicted Marshy. Funny thing is, Buck was a victim of this fearful fascism and banned from the domes for ages. He came here to rant about it. Now he's back in the fold he's come over all Jai Guru Dev and wants to treat us (you) the same way he was treated. Ironic huh? Just this morning I was reading that a couple of spiritual teachers aresaying that too much social media damages the third eye. One of them isactually closing all of his FB pages. Probably just doesn't like the ability of people to offer a contrary opinion. Bye salyavin, xeno and turq, wishing you all much happiness and good health, etc. Yeah, and you Share. You have been a source of fun here when you posted more. And I got some good book recommendations from you. I always th
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Sigh, feste, I do feel so fortunate to live in a sweet place like Fairfield but sometimes I wish everyone were more like me LOL! From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Share, I think "namaste" is one of the loveliest of all greetings, but I do cringe at Jai Guru Dev. I got JGD'ed by someone just half an hour ago and it felt strange, like a ghost from the past. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Curtis,Well I'm completely appalled when people greet each other with Jai Guru Dev! That's kind of what I'm poking at. I honor that someone honors another human being and have been known to say "namaste" myself. But saying Jai Guru Dev rather than hello seems like a highjacking of a sincere honoring and turning it into something rote and meaningless. Warning: more softening ahead! OTOH, I acknowledge that I might be wrong about a person's inner experience when they say Jai Guru Dev. Nonetheless, I think a good course of action is to trust my own instincts about another's sincerity and/or groundedness. And I further recognize that people perhaps say Jai Guru Dev in an intentional way, intending to have a deeper experience of life. I'm happy if it works for them. I think you especially but also Xeno, empty and barry2 generally take an intellectual, philosophical and fascinating approach to discussing TM, etc. I enjoy reading these but tend to have a more psychological angle on the world. Such an angle can degenerate into analyzing people's childhood issues and personalities and lifestyles. Enjoyment then can be less. Ok, Curtis, now to address your main point, or at least attempt to. And it totally has to do with the reason I wish you guys would visit here. As best as I can tell, lots of people here aren't going by any guru's insights. Nor even by any guru's experiences. They are living by their own insights and experiences. That for me is proof of TM's efficacy. When in SCI I heard Maharishi say that TM transcends its own activity, I had a flash of insight. That TM totally liberates the seeker, even from itself, to use an awkward wording. And I admit it leads to a conundrum: one is filled with gratitude for a system one no longer needs! I don't know, maybe it's just a GC phase (-: I'd be interested in hearing one concept from SCI that you think is "wrong." And also what exactly you mean by "wrong." Harmful to life? From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Hi Share. Comments below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, Jai Guru You! I love how you keep saying bye but remain. Yay! Me: Maharishi would have been appalled by this hijacking of his way to honor his master. He was completely against this even when it was directed toward him. The concept of a guru in the way Maharishi used this term is antithetical to human equality. By combining the buzz word terminology used to maintain a hierarchy with an idea of egalitarianism it basically cancels out the intellectual value and integrity of both ideas and philosophies. S: But you ignored my main point which is people are saying negative stuff and haven't even been in Fairfield, Ground Zero, in decades! Come on guys, get a little hands on and current experience before you wade in! Get a little present day skin in the game! Me: The philosophy of Maharishi is what most people are challenging, not the eclectic beliefs of many FF residents. When I am criticizing Maharishi's teaching, it is targeted at the core beliefs that underlie many movement participant's philosophies. For example, if you believe in the concept of a guru as a person with the kind of insight into life claimed by gurus, then the difference between how this belief gets mixed up in a personal philosophy is irrelevant to the challenge to the idea. Saying for example, "I believe Maharishi was enlightened and that enlightened people know the reality of life but I don't follow what he says exactly" is just a statement about how incongruent most people's philosophies are. It is not a refutation of the challenge that guru's have not provided enough evidence to support their claims to special states of mind and knowledge about the world. S: But having said that, I realize it's just my opinion, just my preference. And I'm a little OCD so some of the repetition zones me out. My bad! Me: I guess you say this kind of thing to soften your having a personal opinion on something here. I don't believe you need to apologize for that. I think it is great that you love FFL and have chosen those beliefs out of Maharishi's system that serve you. My criticism of his teaching is never a personal attack on your life choices. I wish you lots of happiness and good things for your life while believing
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bhairitu, but would you use French if the baker was genuinely French? Indeed, who among us would be so brave as to speak French to a native?! I sometimes say "bon appetite" when eating out with friends. Kind of saying grace, but in a way that honors the body. And needless to say, the friends aren't French! Forget French and Italian and Hindi. How's your Mandarin coming along? From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Using "jai guru dev" shows ignorance on the part of TM'ers. It is a phrase used by many paths to acknowledge their teacher not just TM and usually not used in public. To refer to SBS as "Guru Dev" is incorrect in protocol. Other people have their own "Guru Dev". I like to use phrases to kid folks. We have a photography shop where the owner studied French cooking and makes some wonderful baked goods he sells at the Sunday farmer's market. I always greet with "bon matin" (good morning) and we all have a laugh. Then I order in French. The woman assisting at the booth doesn't know French but knows some Italian. I tried "namaste" the other day but then said "oh wait, that's Hindi" which we all laughed about. On 07/07/2015 09:37 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hi Curtis, Well I'm completely appalled when people greet each other with Jai Guru Dev! That's kind of what I'm poking at. I honor that someone honors another human being and have been known to say "namaste" myself. But saying Jai Guru Dev rather than hello seems like a highjacking of a sincere honoring and turning it into something rote and meaningless. Warning: more softening ahead! OTOH, I acknowledge that I might be wrong about a person's inner experience when they say Jai Guru Dev. Nonetheless, I think a good course of action is to trust my own instincts about another's sincerity and/or groundedness. And I further recognize that people perhaps say Jai Guru Dev in an intentional way, intending to have a deeper experience of life. I'm happy if it works for them. I think you especially but also Xeno, empty and barry2 generally take an intellectual, philosophical and fascinating approach to discussing TM, etc. I enjoy reading these but tend to have a more psychological angle on the world. Such an angle can degenerate into analyzing people's childhood issues and personalities and lifestyles. Enjoyment then can be less. Ok, Curtis, now to address your main point, or at least attempt to. And it totally has to do with the reason I wish you guys would visit here. As best as I can tell, lots of people here aren't going by any guru's insights. Nor even by any guru's experiences. They are living by their own insights and experiences. That for me is proof of TM's efficacy. When in SCI I heard Maharishi say that TM transcends its own activity, I had a flash of insight. That TM totally liberates the seeker, even from itself, to use an awkward wording. And I admit it leads to a conundrum: one is filled with gratitude for a system one no longer needs! I don't know, maybe it's just a GC phase (-: I'd be interested in hearing one concept from SCI that you think is "wrong." And also what exactly you mean by "wrong." Harmful to life? From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Hi Share. Comments below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, Jai Guru You! I love how you keep saying bye but remain. Yay! Me: Maharishi would have been appalled by this hijacking of his way to honor his master. He was completely against this even when it was directed toward him. The concept of a guru in the way Maharishi used this term is antithetical to human equality. By combining the buzz word terminology used to maintain a hierarchy with an idea of egalitarianism it basically cancels out the intellectual value and integrity of both ideas and philosophies. S: But you ignored my main point which is people are saying negative stuff and haven't even been in Fairfield, Ground Zero, in decades! Come on guys, get a little hands on and current experience before you wade in! Get a little present day skin in the game! Me: The philosophy of Maharishi is what most people are challenging, not the eclectic beliefs of many FF residents. When I am criticizing Maharishi's teaching, it is targeted at the core beliefs that underlie many movement participant's philosophies. For example, if you believe
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Hi Curtis,Well I'm completely appalled when people greet each other with Jai Guru Dev! That's kind of what I'm poking at. I honor that someone honors another human being and have been known to say "namaste" myself. But saying Jai Guru Dev rather than hello seems like a highjacking of a sincere honoring and turning it into something rote and meaningless. Warning: more softening ahead! OTOH, I acknowledge that I might be wrong about a person's inner experience when they say Jai Guru Dev. Nonetheless, I think a good course of action is to trust my own instincts about another's sincerity and/or groundedness. And I further recognize that people perhaps say Jai Guru Dev in an intentional way, intending to have a deeper experience of life. I'm happy if it works for them. I think you especially but also Xeno, empty and barry2 generally take an intellectual, philosophical and fascinating approach to discussing TM, etc. I enjoy reading these but tend to have a more psychological angle on the world. Such an angle can degenerate into analyzing people's childhood issues and personalities and lifestyles. Enjoyment then can be less. Ok, Curtis, now to address your main point, or at least attempt to. And it totally has to do with the reason I wish you guys would visit here. As best as I can tell, lots of people here aren't going by any guru's insights. Nor even by any guru's experiences. They are living by their own insights and experiences. That for me is proof of TM's efficacy. When in SCI I heard Maharishi say that TM transcends its own activity, I had a flash of insight. That TM totally liberates the seeker, even from itself, to use an awkward wording. And I admit it leads to a conundrum: one is filled with gratitude for a system one no longer needs! I don't know, maybe it's just a GC phase (-: I'd be interested in hearing one concept from SCI that you think is "wrong." And also what exactly you mean by "wrong." Harmful to life? From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Hi Share. Comments below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : salyavin, Jai Guru You! I love how you keep saying bye but remain. Yay! Me: Maharishi would have been appalled by this hijacking of his way to honor his master. He was completely against this even when it was directed toward him. The concept of a guru in the way Maharishi used this term is antithetical to human equality. By combining the buzz word terminology used to maintain a hierarchy with an idea of egalitarianism it basically cancels out the intellectual value and integrity of both ideas and philosophies. S: But you ignored my main point which is people are saying negative stuff and haven't even been in Fairfield, Ground Zero, in decades! Come on guys, get a little hands on and current experience before you wade in! Get a little present day skin in the game! Me: The philosophy of Maharishi is what most people are challenging, not the eclectic beliefs of many FF residents. When I am criticizing Maharishi's teaching, it is targeted at the core beliefs that underlie many movement participant's philosophies. For example, if you believe in the concept of a guru as a person with the kind of insight into life claimed by gurus, then the difference between how this belief gets mixed up in a personal philosophy is irrelevant to the challenge to the idea. Saying for example, "I believe Maharishi was enlightened and that enlightened people know the reality of life but I don't follow what he says exactly" is just a statement about how incongruent most people's philosophies are. It is not a refutation of the challenge that guru's have not provided enough evidence to support their claims to special states of mind and knowledge about the world. S: But having said that, I realize it's just my opinion, just my preference. And I'm a little OCD so some of the repetition zones me out. My bad! Me: I guess you say this kind of thing to soften your having a personal opinion on something here. I don't believe you need to apologize for that. I think it is great that you love FFL and have chosen those beliefs out of Maharishi's system that serve you. My criticism of his teaching is never a personal attack on your life choices. I wish you lots of happiness and good things for your life while believing sincerely that Maharishi's philosophy is wrong on almost everything it claims. Yes, life, Jai Guru Life, abounds in irony (-: I finally looked up TTFN... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Though I will miss salyavin's science contributions and Xeno's dry humor and rationality, turq's passion and urbanity, I will enjoy immensely the absence of t
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salyavin, Jai Guru You! I love how you keep saying bye but remain. Yay! But you ignored my main point which is people are saying negative stuff and haven't even been in Fairfield, Ground Zero, in decades! Come on guys, get a little hands on and current experience before you wade in! Get a little present day skin in the game! But having said that, I realize it's just my opinion, just my preference. And I'm a little OCD so some of the repetition zones me out. My bad! Yes, life, Jai Guru Life, abounds in irony (-: I finally looked up TTFN... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Though I will miss salyavin's science contributions and Xeno's dry humor and rationality, turq's passion and urbanity, I will enjoy immensely the absence of the deluge of anti TMO offerings, largely because they are made far far away from Ground Zero, so to speak. And I will even more immensely enjoy the more tamasic of said negative rantings. Rajo guna I don't mind so much (-: Hey, whatdya know , I'm still here! Jai Guru Me! But I don't really think there's been a deluge of anti-TMO offerings. What I recall is a lot of people who have personal and first hand experience of the weird cult that is TM have expressed - and justified - opinions that people like you and Buck don't like. Why you don't like it is a mystery to me, this is - or was - a discussion room for people with opinions about TM, the TMO and anything else, to share. It's all on the home page. But now Buck has assumed control and deleted all the interesting posters this place is now effectively just a bliss bunny forum with nothing to say. This is sad. The natural conclusion of censorship is that the only posts remaining are the ones nobody wants to read. Look at what Buck used as an excuse to get rid of MJ. It's pathetic. I can't believe you lot are just going to go along with it and not object. But I guess that's what lifetime in a cult does for you. I remember being in the TMO and voicing a contrary opinion and was told that this is a dictatorship and my opinion wasn't relevant if it contradicted Marshy. Funny thing is, Buck was a victim of this fearful fascism and banned from the domes for ages. He came here to rant about it. Now he's back in the fold he's come over all Jai Guru Dev and wants to treat us (you) the same way he was treated. Ironic huh? Just this morning I was reading that a couple of spiritual teachers aresaying that too much social media damages the third eye. One of them isactually closing all of his FB pages. Probably just doesn't like the ability of people to offer a contrary opinion. Bye salyavin, xeno and turq, wishing you all much happiness and good health, etc. Yeah, and you Share. You have been a source of fun here when you posted more. And I got some good book recommendations from you. I always thank people who open my eyes to things. Somehow I'll have to find something else to do on my tea break! TTFN ;-) From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Ouch! I read xeno's post this morning, but couldn't reply. (of course it's all in the yahoo/ffl/mailarchive), but I guess a line was crossed. Too bad, cuz I like xeno's brand of cynicism for the most part, and of course, that dry, dry sense of humor. That will not easily be replaced, IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Xenophaneros Anartaxius you are well aware of theyahoo-groups guidelines of invading privacy or slurring people on yahoo-groups. Bye. #yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053 -- #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp #yiv9064561053hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp #yiv9064561053ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp .yiv9064561053ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp .yiv9064561053ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-mkp .yiv9064561053ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-sponsor #yiv9064561053ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-sponsor #yiv9064561053ygrp-lc #yiv9064561053hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053ygrp-sponsor #yiv9064561053ygrp-lc .yiv9064561053ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064561053activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9064561053 #yiv9064
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
Though I will miss salyavin's science contributions and Xeno's dry humor and rationality, turq's passion and urbanity, I will enjoy immensely the absence of the deluge of anti TMO offerings, largely because they are made far far away from Ground Zero, so to speak. And I will even more immensely enjoy the more tamasic of said negative rantings. Rajo guna I don't mind so much (-: Just this morning I was reading that a couple of spiritual teachers are saying that too much social media damages the third eye. One of them is actually closing all of his FB pages. Bye salyavin, xeno and turq, wishing you all much happiness and good health, etc. From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates Ouch! I read xeno's post this morning, but couldn't reply. (of course it's all in the yahoo/ffl/mailarchive), but I guess a line was crossed. Too bad, cuz I like xeno's brand of cynicism for the most part, and of course, that dry, dry sense of humor. That will not easily be replaced, IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Xenophaneros Anartaxius you are well aware of theyahoo-groups guidelines of invading privacy or slurring people on yahoo-groups. Bye. #yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225 -- #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp #yiv9243740225hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp #yiv9243740225ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp .yiv9243740225ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp .yiv9243740225ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-mkp .yiv9243740225ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-sponsor #yiv9243740225ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-sponsor #yiv9243740225ygrp-lc #yiv9243740225hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225ygrp-sponsor #yiv9243740225ygrp-lc .yiv9243740225ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225activity span .yiv9243740225underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 dd.yiv9243740225last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9243740225 dd.yiv9243740225last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9243740225 dd.yiv9243740225last p span.yiv9243740225yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225file-title a, #yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225file-title a:active, #yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225file-title a:hover, #yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225photo-title a, #yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225photo-title a:active, #yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225photo-title a:hover, #yiv9243740225 div.yiv9243740225photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9243740225 div#yiv9243740225ygrp-mlmsg #yiv9243740225ygrp-msg p a span.yiv9243740225yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv9243740225 .yiv9243740225MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv9243740225 o {font-size:0;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv9243740225 #yiv9243740225photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;wid
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
I've heard that according to the Veda: Brahman says, "My indestructible maya."If a person has realized this and is living this in every moment, then roles, indeed everything, would be both Brahman and maya. At that point, surely life would not have to be one thing or the other, contemplation or worldly role. Maya is covering when tamas dominates; veil when rajas dominates and ladder to reality when sattva dominates. A friend once heard Maharishi say that we can not imagine how inclusive Brahman is. "Far in the distance is seen the owner of the house reverberating." Hopefully not too sentimental (-: From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM Anyone read this stuff? These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. Between Brahman and appearances. It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes. PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of understanding the question. #yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248 -- #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp #yiv0432793248hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp #yiv0432793248ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp .yiv0432793248ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp .yiv0432793248ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-mkp .yiv0432793248ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-sponsor #yiv0432793248ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-sponsor #yiv0432793248ygrp-lc #yiv0432793248hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248ygrp-sponsor #yiv0432793248ygrp-lc .yiv0432793248ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0432793248 #yiv0432793248activity span .yiv0432793248underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0432793248 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0432793248 .yiv0432793248bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0432793248 dd.yiv0432793248last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0432793248 dd.yiv0432793248last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0432793248 dd.yiv0432793248last p span.yiv0432793248yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0432793248 div.yiv0432793248attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0432793248 div.yiv0432793248attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0432793248 div.yiv0432793248file-title a, #yiv0432793248 div.yiv0432793248file-title a:active, #yiv0432793248 div.yiv0432793248file-title a:hover, #
Re: [FairfieldLife] Polygamy is Next to be Legalized?
Hi John, You ain't seen nothing yet. If polygamy is universally legalized, could polyandry be far behind? (-: Turq made some very negative contributions. And he made some positive contributions too. Same could be said for most everyone here. I often enjoyed the contributions of Richard and Ravi. And yet I think they were booted for valid reasons. I read the "extreme" contributions of someone like Edg and it helps me understand why Turq was booted. It has to do with tone, which is quite tricky to articulate. Making an attempt, I'll say that I often feel a lightness in Edg's writing which I seldom felt in Turq's. And that could just be my lack of perceptual fullness. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Polygamy is Next to be Legalized? Hey Share, You haven't been posting much these days. With Pastor Barry gone, you can count your blessings. Perhaps, we can have the other Peak members to come back and post once again. Nonetheless, IMO some of the Mormons in southern Utah would probably challenge the courts for their right to have multiple wives. Having many wives would probably help here in SF since homes are expensive. They can help pay for the mortgage. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John, I think the Chief Justice is trying to scare people, people who were once scared by the prospect of gay marriage. I also think that he's a pathetic excuse for a judge, chief or otherwise. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Polygamy is Next to be Legalized? Gay marriage is now legal. Chief Justice Roberts states that polygamy could be legalized soon. What do you think? Gay Marriage Will Lead to Polygamy, Roberts Argues, Citing New York Post Story on a "Throuple" | | | | | | Gay Marriage Will Lead to Polygamy, Roberts Argues,... In his unexpectedly fiery dissent in Friday's marriage equality decision, Chief Justice John Roberts argues that the ruling may clear the way for a constituti... | | | View on www.slate.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166 -- #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp #yiv6310548166hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp #yiv6310548166ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp .yiv6310548166ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp .yiv6310548166ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-mkp .yiv6310548166ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-sponsor #yiv6310548166ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-sponsor #yiv6310548166ygrp-lc #yiv6310548166hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166ygrp-sponsor #yiv6310548166ygrp-lc .yiv6310548166ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6310548166 #yiv6310548166activity span .yiv6310548166underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6310548166 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6310548166 .yiv6310548166bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6310548166 dd.yiv6310548166last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6310548166 dd.yiv6310548166last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6310548166 dd.yiv6310548166last p span.yiv6310548166yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6310548166 div.yiv6310548166attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6310548166 div.yiv6310548166attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6310548166 div.yiv6310548166file-title a, #yiv6310548166 div.yiv6310548166file-title a:active, #yiv6310548166 div.yiv63105
Re: [FairfieldLife] Polygamy is Next to be Legalized?
John, I think the Chief Justice is trying to scare people, people who were once scared by the prospect of gay marriage. I also think that he's a pathetic excuse for a judge, chief or otherwise. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Polygamy is Next to be Legalized? Gay marriage is now legal. Chief Justice Roberts states that polygamy could be legalized soon. What do you think? Gay Marriage Will Lead to Polygamy, Roberts Argues, Citing New York Post Story on a "Throuple" || |||| Gay Marriage Will Lead to Polygamy, Roberts Argues,... In his unexpectedly fiery dissent in Friday's marriage equality decision, Chief Justice John Roberts argues that the ruling may clear the way for a constituti...|| | View on www.slate.com |Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412 -- #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp #yiv1066945412hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp #yiv1066945412ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp .yiv1066945412ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp .yiv1066945412ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mkp .yiv1066945412ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-sponsor #yiv1066945412ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-sponsor #yiv1066945412ygrp-lc #yiv1066945412hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-sponsor #yiv1066945412ygrp-lc .yiv1066945412ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412activity span .yiv1066945412underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 dd.yiv1066945412last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1066945412 dd.yiv1066945412last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1066945412 dd.yiv1066945412last p span.yiv1066945412yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412file-title a, #yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412file-title a:active, #yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412file-title a:hover, #yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412photo-title a, #yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412photo-title a:active, #yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412photo-title a:hover, #yiv1066945412 div.yiv1066945412photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1066945412 div#yiv1066945412ygrp-mlmsg #yiv1066945412ygrp-msg p a span.yiv1066945412yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv1066945412 o {font-size:0;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv1066945412 .yiv1066945412replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv1066945412 #yiv1066945412ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Final Last Message?
True Cons From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Final Last Message? Turq is an HBO fanboy. Doesn't cost him anything because he likes the thrill of stealing it off Pirate Bay. He gets all jazzed up when there is a new season of a show. Me, I think HBO is overpriced especially what some of the cable companies charge for it. Granted I had it for two years as "free" but I know damn well that was just a Comcast scheme to keep me around and HBO still got their money. I've seen spreadsheets on how much the cable networks actually cost the providers. Pennies, literally pennies with the most expensive being the sports networks. "True Detective" is a series where the showrunner writes all the scripts and directs them himself. The first season was exceptional and hopefully this one will be good too. The guy wrote the first season like it was one big long movie and avoid the trite formula many showrunner use which is often six acts with a cliffhanger at the end of each episode. Nothing really new. The six act thing began when the networks wanted to have six ad breaks in an hour show. Usually TV shows were two acts (commercials stuck wherever) of antecedent (problem arises) act one and then consequence (solve problem) act two formula. It's funny that HBO since "True Blood" has been labeling shows starting with "True". I wonder what marketing psychologist told them that was a great idea? On 06/23/2015 11:07 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: _ I received a rather cryptic message from TurquoiseBee, in which he merely mentioned as possibly a 'last message' and all it is is a link to a video. I normally don't watch videos because they take too much time. I think he is using the song in this video to communicate a message; he had nothing to say personally, so whatever he wants to say seems to be embedded in either the visuals or the lyrics here. True Detective Season 2: Opening Credits Episode #1 (HBO) | | | || | | | | | | True Detective Season 2: Opening Credits Episode #1 (HBO... | | | | View on youtu.be | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672 -- #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp #yiv0940008672hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp #yiv0940008672ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp .yiv0940008672ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp .yiv0940008672ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-mkp .yiv0940008672ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-sponsor #yiv0940008672ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-sponsor #yiv0940008672ygrp-lc #yiv0940008672hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672ygrp-sponsor #yiv0940008672ygrp-lc .yiv0940008672ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0940008672 #yiv0940008672activity span .yiv0940008672underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0940008672 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0940008672 .yiv0940008672bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0940008672 dd.yiv0940008672last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0940008672 dd.yiv0940008672last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0940008672 dd.yiv0940008672last p span.yiv0940008672yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0940008672 div.yiv0940008672attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0940008672 div.yiv0940008672attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0940008672 div
Re: [FairfieldLife] Great Beyond Dispatch #2
thank you both... From: "Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FFL Post Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Great Beyond Dispatch #2 - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee To: Alex Stanley Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Alex, can you make *another* post to the forum for me? Alex, you have been an honorable voice in all of this, so I'm going to ask you for one additional favor -- can you post this update to the group? Thanks in advance. Hi guys and gals, I wanted to pass some information along to you to help with your ongoing discussions, not to mention your vote. I have sorta been following things on FFL, although not closely, so I have noticed that Doug Hamilton is *still* managing to stonewall everyone here and NOT give a reason why he deleted my access to Fairfield Life. At the same time, he has suggested strongly that he and Rick are in complete agreement on it (from post #417314): "Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls." Well, I wish to shed a little light on this claim. Rick *finally* replied to my email to him, sent NOT to ask to rejoin FFL (there has been such a display of scumbaggery by a few here that I have serious doubts that I *would* rejoin FFL), but to focus on what for me is the larger issue of abuse of power. It took Rick several days *to* reply, and when he did (in a couple of posts), he made the following points: 1. He does NOT agree that FFL posters should be prohibited from criticizing David Lynch, as Doug attempted to enforce. 2. He does NOT agree that an FFL moderator should be able to delete a poster from the forum without giving a specific reason why. 3. He has NOT been "moderating the moderator" and following Doug's actions *as* moderator. He doesn't have the time. I got the strong impression that he has not read a single one of the many posts surrounding this issue, and has no intention of ever doing so. In other words, if you're waiting for Rick to intervene and "make a wise, informed executive decision" on all of this, you'll be waiting forever. 4. He does NOT know the reason that Doug deleted me from FFL. Doug has been stonewalling Rick, just as he has everyone else. If Rick is telling the truth in his emails to me (and I see no reason to disbelieve him), then Doug is LYING above about having been in communication with Rick about my removal. He is also LYING about the "back and forth" between Rick and himself. The truth is more as Alex told it -- Rick is simply *not interested* in Fairfield Life, and has neither the time nor inclination to follow a thread of posts and "get to the bottom of" any issue. 5. Rick suggests that he bowed to Doug's constant demands to be made moderator as an experiment, and so far has had to trust him to do the right thing. Repeat -- he has NOT been involved in any of the decisions or pronouncements that Doug has made. 6. Rick specifically mentioned that he had been afraid that Doug would try to run things as his "Buck" persona, and made it clear that this was NOT what he wanted. Doug supposedly agreed, although I think we all know that if he did he was LYING to Rick about that, too. That's all I know. I will happily make the whole email exchange available to Alex if he asks me to do so, so that he can affirm that I am not distorting what Rick said. I do NOT have any suggestions for those of you still on FFL, and suffering under the obvious attempt by a spiritual stormtrooper to take over the forum and shape it into his sick, twisted vision of "community." I have specifically NOT asked Rick to reinstate me, and will not do so -- if he decides to, that will be his decision. Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. I'm just writing you to let you know that from my perspective it really does look as if YOU are the ones who have to work things out -- you *really* aren't going to get any help from Rick on this. Turq / Barry #yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843 -- #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp #yiv0435042843hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp #yiv0435042843ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp .yiv0435042843ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp .yiv0435042843ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0435042843 #yiv0435042843ygrp-mkp .yiv0435042843ad a {color:#ff;text-dec
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Thanks, nooz, I used the sleeping one during the night and it helped me fall back to sleep more quickly and easily. JaiGuruSleep (-: From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? Sounds like some folks here haven't even achieved "line on water" yet or they wouldn't be worried about your posts. As for mantras. Hoom is for kapha imbalances (it'll stimulate you), Shreem for Pitta (it'll cool you down) and Raam for vata (it'll calm you). Give them a try for a few minutes each to see what they do. Mantras don't belong to TM. These are from Ayurveda. There are also many "tribal mantras" such as Om Agasthi Shahina (Ōm Ah-gah´-stee Shah-ee´-nah) which helps with sleep. You don't need a guru for these but they will work better for those who have been practicing meditation. On 06/21/2015 03:48 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that "prohibits" someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg. #yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378 -- #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp #yiv7388416378hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp #yiv7388416378ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp .yiv7388416378ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp .yiv7388416378ad p {margin:0;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-mkp .yiv7388416378ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-sponsor #yiv7388416378ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-sponsor #yiv7388416378ygrp-lc #yiv7388416378hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378ygrp-sponsor #yiv7388416378ygrp-lc .yiv7388416378ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv7388416378 #yiv7388416378activity span .yiv7388416378underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7388416378 .yiv7388416378attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv7388416378 .yiv7388416378attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7388416378 .yiv7388416378attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv7388416378 .yiv7388416378attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv7388416378 .yiv7388416378attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7388416378 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv7388416378 .yiv
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Oy, LaughingG, only seen this quote in print, never heard it sung before. And still haven't! Prefer to keep my ears unclogged with sugar, but thanks for sharing LOL (-: From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share: In thanks, 2 Vedic bits I love about Brahman:"Far in the distance I see the owner of the house reverberating." LG: https://youtu.be/VZtj5Aa1w4w. Now excuse me while I go puke...forgive me, I never did like those Mother Divine songs! Share: Which I take to mean that the person I think is the least like me, is actually an expression of my Self. Stops one in one's tracks...if one is lucky! LG: Nice verse. Not only what you think but everything...all this is That on the level of all experience. Those that know, don't talk, and those that talk, don't know. End of discussion. :) Share: "Braham says: my indestructible maya." Or as Tom Traynor may have said, it's all just the Divine playing peekaboo, pretending not to see itself. Just for the play of it. LG: No comment. :) Share: Wishing fathers and everyone a very playful day. LG: Thank you Share. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? Share, you caught me completely by surprise with a response...it's good to hear from you! It was not my intention to draw you out of "lurkerdom"...I also enjoy lurking in the shadows...sinister laugh...and really don't understand my fascination with this place unless it's just to see what nuggets I can glean from the posts...you've just offered up a few. Anyway, it's good to see "old friends" returning to the place and I'm enjoying their posts. There's a satisfaction...dare I say comfort...in knowing that we're not going to change who we are, yet it doesn't matter, because it shouldn't prevent us from perhaps finding some value in what each other has to say...we are always in control of how what we read influences us, and can turn the "reaction/response" switch on and off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-: To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment! If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else. Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can "sense" the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel "bad" for the writer, sometimes I have the "aha" moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I "got" the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. #yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909 -- #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp #yiv1654477909hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp #yiv1654477909ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp .yiv1654477909ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp .yiv1654477909ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-mkp .yiv1654477909ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-sponsor #yiv1654477909ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-sponsor #yiv1654477909ygrp-lc #yiv1654477909hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1654477909 #yiv1654477909ygrp-sponsor #yiv1654477909ygrp-lc .yiv1654477909ad {margin-bottom:10px
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Ah ha! So the laughter in LaughingGull is sinister...very good (-: Maybe we should call it mini lurkerdom... In thanks, 2 Vedic bits I love about Brahman:"Far in the distance I see the owner of the house reverberating." Which I take to mean that the person I think is the least like me, is actually an expression of my Self. Stops one in one's tracks...if one is lucky! "Braham says: my indestructible maya." Or as Tom Traynor may have said, it's all just the Divine playing peekaboo, pretending not to see itself. Just for the play of it. Wishing fathers and everyone a very playful day. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? Share, you caught me completely by surprise with a response...it's good to hear from you! It was not my intention to draw you out of "lurkerdom"...I also enjoy lurking in the shadows...sinister laugh...and really don't understand my fascination with this place unless it's just to see what nuggets I can glean from the posts...you've just offered up a few. Anyway, it's good to see "old friends" returning to the place and I'm enjoying their posts. There's a satisfaction...dare I say comfort...in knowing that we're not going to change who we are, yet it doesn't matter, because it shouldn't prevent us from perhaps finding some value in what each other has to say...we are always in control of how what we read influences us, and can turn the "reaction/response" switch on and off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-: To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment! If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else. Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can "sense" the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel "bad" for the writer, sometimes I have the "aha" moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I "got" the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. #yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148 -- #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp #yiv5029269148hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp #yiv5029269148ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp .yiv5029269148ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp .yiv5029269148ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-mkp .yiv5029269148ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-sponsor #yiv5029269148ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-sponsor #yiv5029269148ygrp-lc #yiv5029269148hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148ygrp-sponsor #yiv5029269148ygrp-lc .yiv5029269148ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5029269148 #yiv5029269148activity span .yiv5029269148underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5029269148 .yiv5029269148attach {clear:both;display:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-: To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment! If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else. Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can "sense" the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel "bad" for the writer, sometimes I have the "aha" moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I "got" the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. This topic has become interesting to me, and my comments are interpersed below: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? J: This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. X: If your equanimity is tested and you fail, then you realise you have more work to do in that regard. Before I learned TM, most of what I was engaged in was all about button pushing and discovering the extent of one's conditioning. It can be valuable. This feature of spiritual technology is heavily suppressed in the TM movement. LG: Perhaps all our equanimities are being tested by the Doug/Buck persona that Xeno mentions below. Are we passing or failing by how each of us reacts to it? Those that fail, is it valuable, i.e. are we learning anything from it? J: I'm not sure anybody cares which "R's" you would or would not have removed. X: Tell that to those that argued with them, or had to wade through their posts. LG: Now that's funny. J: Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has "personal enmity"; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? X: Doug is a rather strange persona in my opinion, constant spamming, often a complete lack of original thinking in those repetitive whining post that went on for all those years. With Turq gone, I am interested though in seeing if he comes out into the sun. There have always been signs he can think independently of his TMO conditioning, and that the TMO has essentially excommunicated him perhaps it will emerge. LG: Could this be the Doug/Buck form of button-pushing? If it is, then you're getting yours pushed big time because it elicits a response from you (and others) to which Doug/Buck chooses to ignore. Kinda like other button-pushers who, when their victims take the bait by responding, drop out of the conversation. The button-pusher owes no one an explanation nor wants to get into an endless discussion that goes nowhere. So now, let's get back to the value of button-pushing as a test to one's equanimity... J: Did anyone argue that personal attacks were always gratuitous? X: Personal attacks are often a response to a personal attack, they can be a reaction. LG: Doesn't there have to be a nonequanimous(?) "person" there for a personal attack to have an effect? X: Turq is not here so he can no longer speak freely here, his opinions have been now suppressed. He has been censored. So has 'R', removed by Rick. To me 'R' was like a swarm
Re: [FairfieldLife] You can solve a problem with force, or with intent and simple gestures
Love this story (-: From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] You can solve a problem with force, or with intent and simple gestures I *get* it that people don't feel that this *ostensibly* spiritual group is very spiritual. However, I think that the way some of them are going about trying to make it more spiritual is not going to achieve what they want. Take the issue of "group behavior in Fairfield." For decades the TMO and individuals in it have attempted to FORCE people to act the way they want them to. They've banned people from the domes, kept people from going to courses or getting advanced techniques, and done all sorts of things to try to 1) put the blame for why Fairfield didn't feel as "spiritual" as they wanted to be, in the *ways* they wanted it to be on a small group of people, and 2) PUNISH those people as a means of "solving the problem." I sadly think that Doug -- a one-time VICTIM of such policies in Fairfield -- thinks that's the way he has to "solve the problem" of Fairfield Life not being as spiritual as he wants it to be, in the *ways* he wants it to be. Most of what he's said so far about his view of what "moderation" is involves PUNISHING someone for "not acting right." Even in terms of TM philosophy this is dumb. You don't dispel darkness by shoveling out the dark; you add some light. Fascinatingly, the very people who have spent the most time complaining that FFL isn't "spiritual enough" for them have done NOTHING to bring any actual spirituality to the place by posting something spiritual themselves. Meanwhile, many of the people they *blame* for things have posted and discussed any number of spiritual topics. Go figure. Here's a short video (only 3:26) about someone who took another path to solve the problem of people not treating a place with the respect he thought it deserved. The local city had already tried the "Fix blame and PUNISH the offenders" route, and it accomplished absolutely nothing. He took a different approach: CRYPTIK | Facebook | | | | | | | | | | | CRYPTIK | Facebook"BUDDHA OF OAKLAND" ~ When Dan Stevenson placed a stone Buddha across the street from his house in Oakland’s Eastlake neighborhood, it was out of... | | | | View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146 -- #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp #yiv4529450146hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp #yiv4529450146ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp .yiv4529450146ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp .yiv4529450146ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-mkp .yiv4529450146ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-sponsor #yiv4529450146ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-sponsor #yiv4529450146ygrp-lc #yiv4529450146hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146ygrp-sponsor #yiv4529450146ygrp-lc .yiv4529450146ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4529450146 #yiv4529450146activity span .yiv4529450146underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4529450146 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4529450146 .yiv4529450146bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4529450146 dd.yiv4529450146last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4529450146 dd.yiv4529450146last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4529450146 dd.yiv4529450146last p span.yiv4529450146yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4529450146 div.yiv4529450146attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4529450146 di
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
merundanda, there aren't enough letters in BD for me to figure out what that is!Perhaps purloined by Amadeus and trans muted into notes? From: merudanda To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : snip (because of certifiable short memory and time) And BTW, it was Jeffery Jones character Emperoro Joseph II, whosays "too many notes" in the film "Amadeus" not Salieri. The story a variation of Alexander Pushkin's play Mozart i Salieri (Моцарт и Сальери, 1830) and other. Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes." || |||| Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes." "Just cut a few and it'll be perfect." "Which few did you have in mind?" A scene from my favorite movie of all time.|| | View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo| || "Just cut a few and it'll be perfect." "Which few You have in mind.." Anotherdamn film I need to find a BD of as my DVD was "letterboxed"instead of anamorphic. On 05/14/2015 07:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah but look who he was saying itabout. :-) But I understand...some peoplehave short attention spans, and can't read morethan 30 words. This post is for them. :-) From:"Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To:"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent:Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria wesee on FFL is Maharishi's fault AsAntonio Salieri would say... toomany notes! snip (because of certifiable short memory and reading ability) #yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724 -- #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp #yiv6016058724hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp #yiv6016058724ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp .yiv6016058724ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp .yiv6016058724ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-mkp .yiv6016058724ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-sponsor #yiv6016058724ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-sponsor #yiv6016058724ygrp-lc #yiv6016058724hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724ygrp-sponsor #yiv6016058724ygrp-lc .yiv6016058724ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6016058724 #yiv6016058724activity span .yiv6016058724underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6016058724bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 dd.yiv6016058724last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6016058724 dd.yiv6016058724last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6016058724 dd.yiv6016058724last p span.yiv6016058724yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724file-title a, #yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724file-title a:active, #yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724file-title a:hover, #yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724photo-title a, #yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724photo-title a:active, #yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724photo-title a:hover, #yiv6016058724 div.yiv6016058724photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6016058724 div#yiv6016058724ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6016058724ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6016058724yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv6016058724 .yiv6
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
Xeno, I like to think, which probably isn't really thinking (-:that the Age of Psychology is succumbing to the Age of Brain Development. Well, that's what I call it. I'm speculating that each of us "likes," is comfortable with, a certain amount of sameness and a certain amount of novelty. My guess is that this has to do with brain development. Tara Goleman, a wise Buddhist, uses a wonderfully humbling analogy of the neural pathways being like dirt roads, perhaps too well rutted in certain directions. She encourages with the observation that even one firing of a new set of pathways, makes it more likely that the person will go that way again. I would love to see some intrepid brain scientist take on the human behavior encapsulated in the word "intention." Seems such a subtle and rich area for investigation. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count Nicely said. I find the TM teachers I know who are more deeply embedded in the movement are very careful about how they express themselves, and often cannot come up with satisfactory answers to weird questions because it is not in their memory database of Maharishi quotations. Particularly questions that come in from angles of other enlightenment systems. They fail the Turing test and sound like a machine. The more experienced teachers though do much better at this. I admit that devotion as some people seem to practice it is beyond my understanding. I feel some people are truly devoted, and others have to mimic it because that particular way of relating to the system was reinforced by everything Maharishi said. At some point I realised that the peculiarities of the movement all came from Maharishi, and there was no independent confirmation of those particular attitudes and ideas from other sources. If you search through lots of enlightenment traditions you can discover certain commonalities but the list is rather short, something on the order of quietness, curiosity, and persistence. Barry's recent post concerning the cult play book was pretty much spot on. A lot of cult behaviour I think is not really conscious as people pick it up without realising what is happening, and because it happened to me in more than one system, it has been a little easier to spot when I have gone off the rails of rationality. I like to think I was lucky in that I had some interesting experiences before I learned TM, and they helped guide me away from a lot of nonsense, but I was not completely successful in avoiding certain things, especially early on. I think of enlightenment as a problem to be solved, and there is certain information you need and certain things you may have to do, and the trick is to find what works for you by learning to discriminate. It is really ironic how one can search for freedom and end up in a kind of mental prison, the opposite of the goal one sought. Perhaps it is the comfort of a certain mental sameness of the people around you that is the driver of the religious mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count For the sake of there beingmaterial divergent view represented on FFL given the hostile climatethat came over FFL I have volunteered here many times the voice ofthe tru-believer and for my effort have been heaped on in return withpersonal invective... Most of the people here probably went through a true-believer stage, at least to some extent... I don't know where we'd be without the clarity of your thinking Xeno. Interestingly, I had dinner with a few old movement friends the other night and we talked for the first time about beliefs and the TMO. I had assumed they were well into the movement still but only because we never talk about it, all of us having many other interests and I wouldn't care if they were or weren't real TBs unless they go on at me about it and they never do so it never came up. That should have given it away really as the TBs we've seen here can't help but go on about it endlessly like they are trying to convert the world still. Anyway, my friends were almost as sceptical as me and they all said they had a brief fling with true believerism but grew out of it after careful thought and checking how the movement worked and the how the long term program resulted in quite a few not so impressive cases. I was surprised but pleased, they shared my distaste for fanatics and agreed with my analysis that some of them are desperate for a strong view of reality to hold their own inner chaos in check. There has to be a reason some people just never get over the first flush
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
turq, may each of us be the dancer colluding with the extraordinary beauty of this very moment, a moment so immense that past and future can only and with gratitude, fall headlong into it... From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" turq, such sumptuous lyrics are exactly what leads me to believe that poets and songwriters are, unwittingly perhaps, the best, or at least the most fun, philosophers and spiritual teachers on our beloved Gaia. Happy Saturn's Day (-: And how appropriate given current events on and discussions about Fairfield Life. "Some dance to remember, some dance to forget..." :-) From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" salyavin, just to answer your question wrt why people leave FFL. And of course only speaking for myself. Because I know you honor the scientific method of collecting data, etc. (-: As you can see, I haven't really left but indeed have become a FFL lurker. Horrors! Just can't bring myself to unsubscribe. No doubt, some issue left over from childhood yada yada. Anyway, basically what happened is that I joined some very active Facebook groups and I simply chose, in my limited time, to participate with those groups rather than with FFL, or the Peak, for that matter. Whoops, except here I am participating on FFL. Dare I say, go figure?!All the best to everyone... It's Hotel California Syndrome, Share. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave... :-) Here's the song, from the "Hell Freezes Over" tour, recorded live literally the first time the band had played together in fourteen years. Now *that* is an example of "Whoops...here I am again..." :-) Hotel California- The Eagles | | | | | | | | | | | Hotel California- The Eagles | | | | View on www.dailymotion.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: Nobody should waste time emailing me; I won't respond. You may speculate all you want as to why I stopped posting, but the likelihood of your making a correct guess is just about nil, so you might as well not bother. It had nothing to do with FFL per se. Yo Judy! Alive and kicking, that's nice to hear. Unless John's horoscope was right and you got reincarnated as the same thing! Actually, that's the most disappointing thing. All this time away, and she's still just as petty and self-obsessed as ever. One would have hoped there would have been progress of some kind... I was just going to comment on a different thread again that Buck and Willy's posts are always identical, like the record is well and truly scratched and will repeat forever in some sort of demented closed groove. But I couldn't be bothered for fear of falling into the sane trap myself. Maybe this is why so many people don't post to FFL any more, there's only so many times you can read the same thing? #yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200 -- #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp #yiv5219608200hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp #yiv5219608200ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp .yiv5219608200ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp .yiv5219608200ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-mkp .yiv5219608200ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-sponsor #yiv5219608200ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-sponsor #yiv5219608200ygrp-lc #yiv5219608200hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200ygrp-sponsor #yiv5219608200ygrp-lc .yiv5219608200ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5219608200 #yiv5219608200activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
turq, such sumptuous lyrics are exactly what leads me to believe that poets and songwriters are, unwittingly perhaps, the best, or at least the most fun, philosophers and spiritual teachers on our beloved Gaia. Happy Saturn's Day (-: From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" salyavin, just to answer your question wrt why people leave FFL. And of course only speaking for myself. Because I know you honor the scientific method of collecting data, etc. (-: As you can see, I haven't really left but indeed have become a FFL lurker. Horrors! Just can't bring myself to unsubscribe. No doubt, some issue left over from childhood yada yada. Anyway, basically what happened is that I joined some very active Facebook groups and I simply chose, in my limited time, to participate with those groups rather than with FFL, or the Peak, for that matter. Whoops, except here I am participating on FFL. Dare I say, go figure?!All the best to everyone... It's Hotel California Syndrome, Share. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave... :-) Here's the song, from the "Hell Freezes Over" tour, recorded live literally the first time the band had played together in fourteen years. Now *that* is an example of "Whoops...here I am again..." :-) Hotel California- The Eagles | | | | | | | | | | | Hotel California- The Eagles | | | | View on www.dailymotion.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: Nobody should waste time emailing me; I won't respond. You may speculate all you want as to why I stopped posting, but the likelihood of your making a correct guess is just about nil, so you might as well not bother. It had nothing to do with FFL per se. Yo Judy! Alive and kicking, that's nice to hear. Unless John's horoscope was right and you got reincarnated as the same thing! Actually, that's the most disappointing thing. All this time away, and she's still just as petty and self-obsessed as ever. One would have hoped there would have been progress of some kind... I was just going to comment on a different thread again that Buck and Willy's posts are always identical, like the record is well and truly scratched and will repeat forever in some sort of demented closed groove. But I couldn't be bothered for fear of falling into the sane trap myself. Maybe this is why so many people don't post to FFL any more, there's only so many times you can read the same thing? #yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483 -- #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp #yiv2732104483hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp #yiv2732104483ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp .yiv2732104483ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp .yiv2732104483ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-mkp .yiv2732104483ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-sponsor #yiv2732104483ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-sponsor #yiv2732104483ygrp-lc #yiv2732104483hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483ygrp-sponsor #yiv2732104483ygrp-lc .yiv2732104483ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2732104483 #yiv2732104483activity span .yiv2732104483underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2732104483 .yiv2732104483attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2732104483 .yiv2732104483attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2732104483 .yiv2732104483attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv273
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count
salyavin, just to answer your question wrt why people leave FFL. And of course only speaking for myself. Because I know you honor the scientific method of collecting data, etc. (-: As you can see, I haven't really left but indeed have become a FFL lurker. Horrors! Just can't bring myself to unsubscribe. No doubt, some issue left over from childhood yada yada. Anyway, basically what happened is that I joined some very active Facebook groups and I simply chose, in my limited time, to participate with those groups rather than with FFL, or the Peak, for that matter. Whoops, except here I am participating on FFL. Dare I say, go figure?!All the best to everyone... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: Nobody should waste time emailing me; I won't respond. You may speculate all you want as to why I stopped posting, but the likelihood of your making a correct guess is just about nil, so you might as well not bother. It had nothing to do with FFL per se. Yo Judy! Alive and kicking, that's nice to hear. Unless John's horoscope was right and you got reincarnated as the same thing! Actually, that's the most disappointing thing. All this time away, and she's still just as petty and self-obsessed as ever. One would have hoped there would have been progress of some kind... I was just going to comment on a different thread again that Buck and Willy's posts are always identical, like the record is well and truly scratched and will repeat forever in some sort of demented closed groove. But I couldn't be bothered for fear of falling into the sane trap myself. Maybe this is why so many people don't post to FFL any more, there's only so many times you can read the same thing? #yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232 -- #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp #yiv0770675232hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp #yiv0770675232ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp .yiv0770675232ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp .yiv0770675232ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-mkp .yiv0770675232ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-sponsor #yiv0770675232ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-sponsor #yiv0770675232ygrp-lc #yiv0770675232hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232ygrp-sponsor #yiv0770675232ygrp-lc .yiv0770675232ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0770675232 #yiv0770675232activity span .yiv0770675232underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0770675232 .yiv0770675232bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 dd.yiv0770675232last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0770675232 dd.yiv0770675232last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0770675232 dd.yiv0770675232last p span.yiv0770675232yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232file-title a, #yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232file-title a:active, #yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232file-title a:hover, #yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232photo-title a, #yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232photo-title a:active, #yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232photo-title a:hover, #yiv0770675232 div.yiv0770675232ph
Re: [FairfieldLife] Welcome, Vaikuntha of Fairfield
Whoa! This is the house across the street from my house! Funny old world (-: From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 6:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Welcome, Vaikuntha of Fairfield Welcome to FairfieldLife, Vaikuntha of Fairfield.Another Fairfield, Iowa meditator spiritual practice satsanga! I always appreciate seeing your literature in the corner of Paradiso Cafein Fairfield and around. Welcome to the spiritual fray that is FFL at yahoo-groups and in Fairfield, Iowa!There can be kindness in diversity. I hope you find kindness here. JaiGuruYou, -Buck Vaikuntha of Fairfield || |||| Vaikuntha of Fairfield Krishna Bhakti Yoga for One and All. 105 S 3rd St. Fairfield, IA 52556 (985) 768-7060|| | View on www.facebook.com |Preview by Yahoo| || Programs every morning from 4:30 to 7:00 am and 6:30-9:00 pm daily. Afternoon programs on the weekends. Please call (985) 768-7060 and let us know when you can come. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dear Friends, In the material world, faults abound. One must perform the work born of his or her own nature, both materially and spiritually, even if one can not perform perfectly. Find me any yoga or religious system or person who is not associated with some fault. To be overly critical is also a fault, and it the mentality of the asuras. The divine mentality is full of truth, conviction, endeavor, and happiness. saha-jaḿ karma kaunteyasa-doṣam api na tyajetsarvārambhā hi doṣeṇadhūmenāgnir ivāvṛtāḥTogether born with work, ArjunIs fault, but one must not rejectHis own work, even fault ridden,For fire also causes smoke.SYNONYMSsaha-jam — born simultaneously; karma — work; kaunteya — O son of Kuntī; sa-doṣam — with fault; api — although; na — never; tyajet — one should give up; sarva-ārambhāḥ — all ventures; hi — certainly; doṣeṇa — with fault; dhūmena — with smoke; agniḥ — fire; iva — as; āvṛtāḥ — covered. Vaikuntha of Fairfield | | | | | | | | | | | Vaikuntha of FairfieldKrishna Bhakti Yoga for One and All. 105 S 3rd St. Fairfield, IA 52556 (985) 768-7060 | | | | View on www.Facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369 -- #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp #yiv5617062369hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp #yiv5617062369ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp .yiv5617062369ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp .yiv5617062369ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-mkp .yiv5617062369ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-sponsor #yiv5617062369ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-sponsor #yiv5617062369ygrp-lc #yiv5617062369hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369ygrp-sponsor #yiv5617062369ygrp-lc .yiv5617062369ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5617062369 #yiv5617062369activity span .yiv5617062369underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5617062369 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv5617062369 .yiv5617062369bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5617062369 dd.yiv5617062369last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5617062369 dd.yiv5617062369last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5617062369 dd.yiv5617062369last p span.yiv5617062369yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv5617062369 div.yiv5617062369attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5617062369 div.yiv5617062369attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv5617062369 div.yiv5617062369file-title a, #yiv5617062369 div.yiv5617
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shirley MacLaine on the Holocaust
thanks,turq, one of the best ie clearest explanations of karma I've read. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shirley MacLaine on the Holocaust There are, however, far more interesting ways to interpret the workings of karma. For example, my favorite -- partly because it does not require any kind of arbiter or "enforcer" to run it, just an automatic mechanism -- is that the effects of karma are not physical but mental. That is, karma is not the simplistic stuff that many people believe in (kill someone and you'll be killed), but actually far more simple (and thus effective) than that. Kill someone and *your state of attention drops to a lower and duller level*. Or, alternatively, do something nice for someone else and your state of attention rises to a higher and more intelligent/creative level. That's the only mechanism that would have to be in place for karma to work. Those whose past actions have resulted in a lower, duller mindstate would find themselves repeating the same types of actions that created that lower, duller mindstate. Those whose past actions have resulted in a higher, clearer mindstate would be drawn more to actions that would perpetuate and encourage their higher, clearer mindstate. And at any point one can *change* one's proclivities by simply changing one's actions, so there is no such thing as permanent karma or karma one cannot escape. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" This is pretty much a standard way karma is interpreted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : She's barking mad of course. But isn't what she is saying more or less what belief in karma actually entails? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Outrage as Shirley MacLaine asks: WereHolocaust victims paying for sins in past lives? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951513/Outcry-Shirley-MacLaine-asks-Holocaust-victims-paying-sins-past-lives-Comments-attacked-offensive-wrong-Jewish-campaigners.html #yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779 -- #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp #yiv1842007779hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp #yiv1842007779ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp .yiv1842007779ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp .yiv1842007779ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-mkp .yiv1842007779ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-sponsor #yiv1842007779ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-sponsor #yiv1842007779ygrp-lc #yiv1842007779hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779ygrp-sponsor #yiv1842007779ygrp-lc .yiv1842007779ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv1842007779 #yiv1842007779activity span .yiv1842007779underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1842007779 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv1842007779 .yiv1842007779bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1842007779 dd.yiv1842007779last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1842007779 dd.yiv1842007779last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv1842007779 dd.yiv1842007779last p span.yiv1842007779yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv1842007779 div.yiv1842007779attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv1842007779 div.yiv1842007779attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv1842007779 div.yiv1842007779file-title a, #yiv1842007779 div.yiv1842007779file-title a:active, #yiv1842007779 div.yiv1842007779file-title a:hover, #yiv1842007779 div.yiv1842007779file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the Nature of Internet Discussion Groups
Richard, if indeed everyone is already enlightened, then it doesn't matter if someone, like everyone, has cognitive dissonance, does it? From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the Nature of Internet Discussion Groups Every human being has "original enlightenment" (Japanese hongaku). According to Dogen, all human beings are enlightened by nature and that, consequently, any notion of achieving enlightenment through practice is fundamentally flawed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL. Change the semantics if you prefer "He hath made every thing beautiful in his time:also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the workthat God maketh from the beginning to the end." Ecclesiastes 3:11 | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I find myself wondering how many of the people who seem to be climbing on the "This newsgroup isn't spiritual enough for me because people aren't treated the way they 'should' be treated here" bus are believers in God. I would guess that almost by definition, ALL of them riding that silly short bus are. You'd kinda *have* to believe in the idea that there is an invisible being looking out for you (because you're so important and all) and arranging reality so that it works out "fairly" and so that you are treated with the respect you think you deserve in the rest of life (again, because you're so important and all) to believe that this should also be true on a minor Internet newsgroup that almost no one reads. Those of us who believe that life just turns out the way it turns out and that there is no such thing as the way it "should" be have an easier time in Internet environments. Just as there ain't no Perfect God running things in outer life, there ain't no Perfect Moderator running things on Internet forums. Internet forums, in fact, act pretty much like a perfect model of the Buddhist concept of Interdependent Origination. There ain't no predicting how they'll turn out, because there is no Plan as to how they'll turn out. They may start with an idea of what the group is "about" and what it is "supposed" to discuss, but that changes within a month or two as the different personalities actually doing the discussing start exerting their will on things. Interdependent Origination says that the universe is essentially a form of consensus reality, with what we call "reality" being determined by the combined totality of all the wills of all the sentient beings in that universe. There ain't no Plan...there is only what happens when all these wills intersect. Because there is no Plan, there also ain't no "right" or "wrong" about how things turn out. They turn out perfectly -- a perfect mirror of the combined wills of ALL of the combined sentient beings -- because that's just how things turn out in those situations. Same with Internet discussion groups, as far as I can tell. It strikes me that Fairfield Life is a perfect representation of the differing wills of the differing sentient beings posting to it. Feeling as if it "should" be something other than what it is seems to be missing the whole *point*, and represents a longing for the fantasy of a Perfect Moderator who does not and can not ever exist. It also strikes me that those who feel that *they* should be (or are capable of being) the Perfect Moderator they're longing for have made a fairly fundamental error of judgment, and have confused themselves with their fantasies of a Perfect God...who *also* doesn't exist. :-) | | #yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189 -- #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp #yiv4011615189hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp #yiv4011615189ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp .yiv4011615189ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp .yiv4011615189ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-mkp .yiv4011615189ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-sponsor #yiv4011615189ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-sponsor #yiv4011615189ygrp-lc #yiv4011615189hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189ygrp-sponsor #yiv4011615189ygrp-lc .yiv4011615189ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4011615189 #yiv4011615189activity span {font-weight:700;}
Re: [FairfieldLife] What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?'
the universe is a spiritual environmentevery experience is a spiritual experiencetruth is always presenting itself From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?' How would you define one? I ask because recently some folks seem to feel (or at the very least act) as if they know fersure what a spiritual environment is, and what one is not. For example, a few people have bailed recently from *this* environment, citing as their reason (paraphrasing) that it's Not Spiritual Enough For Them. They've gone forth into the cyberwilderness seeking an environment that they feel IS Spiritual Enough For Them, and a few of these noble seekers have settled upon The_Peak. There is something about that forum that tempts them to believe that it's spiritual, whereas this one is not. This fascinates me because when I scan the messages on The_Peak, I find it more than a little boring. Really. There is a *sameness* there, a lack of intellectual risk-taking, a "having settled" vibe that I just don't get the attraction of. I would characterize it as having the energy of stasis, as opposed to the energy of movement. Not spiritual at all. But that's possibly because I spent some time in the Rama trip, which did not have quite the same definitions of what constitutes a spiritual environment as the TMO did. We'd meditate to music on the dance floor in Techno clubs and in comfy seats in Carnegie Hall, and prefer the meds in the Techno clubs. We'd have formal dinners at Windows On The World, back when that restaurant still existed. We'd go out for "field trips" to the movies, to museums, to places of power, to Disneyland. For a warped few of us, at one point our definition of spending time in a spiritual environment meant living in the Red Light district of Amsterdam and teaching mediation for free there to thousands of people, just for the fun of it. Different strokes for different folks. So when I ponder what a spiritual environment might be, please understand that I approach that question from a far different perspective than many here might. Their idea of what a spiritual environment is might be based on their experience of TM centers, or TMO domes, or churches, or ashrams, or New Age Whatever. In terms of how people interact -- and "should" interact -- in such spiritual environments, they might feel that how one is "supposed" to act in such places is similar to how they're "supposed" to act in a church, or an ashram. Me, I think of spiritual environments as more of a dojo -- a place in which to study martial arts. Thus I think of the decorum one "should" bring to a spiritual environment as similar to that one brings to a dojo. But a good dojo. One that produces champions. Bad dojos produce bad martial artists. They allow the people who study or practice there to believe that they're better than they are. A good dojo never allows that to happen, because they know that's a short path to getting one's ass whupped in the real world. If your punch is feeble and ineffective, you *don't* want someone telling you it's powerful and that you rock, because it ISN'T, and you DON'T. Whether you are an instructor in such an environment or a student, it is your responsibility to ensure that no one is allowed to believe that they're better than they really are. You owe it to them to tell them the truth, as you see it. So the 'tude I most associate with a spiritual environment is a willingness to be told the truth about one's own progress. As opposed to a longing to be told how wonderful and skilled and advanced one is, when one...uh...isn't. What are the characteristics YOU most associate with the phrase "a spiritual environment?" I'm honestly curious. The other thing I'm curious about, if anyone wants to rap about it, is this. If you feel that you can only have what you consider spiritual experiences in environments that you consider spiritual, and that you *can't* have spiritual experiences in environments that you *don't* consider spiritual, doesn't that make you LESS spiritual than someone who can have spiritual experiences pretty much anywhere, anytime? :-) #yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895 -- #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp #yiv0850749895hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp #yiv0850749895ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp .yiv0850749895ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp .yiv0850749895ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv0850749895ygrp-mkp .yiv0850749895ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0850749895 #yiv085074
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
Beautiful, Xeno. For me, resonance has to do with sensory feeling in the body, sensing of energy and the way it flows. Some energy feels heavy; some feels fiery; some feels scattered. We could say: kapha, pitta, vata. I very much enjoy reading the clear analysis by you and Jason and others. But it's similar to how I can enjoy watching men play football. I enjoy watching but have no desire to participate further. It' sunny today and the snow everywhere looks wonderful. Meanwhile, it is arctic out there and there are steps to clear, etc. Hope you're enjoying. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random? Share & Jason Share, I do believe you never consider anything as a statement of logic. Settling for the sense of it on resonance, which is really a subtle sense of feeling allows one to bypass figuring out what it might mean. If beyond thought and feeling, that puts it beyond understanding. I myself do not think much about this any more, but it comes up time to time. A contradiction (con = against, & diction = speech) is a statement that says x is so and x is not so at the same time, which is nonsense. Jason's response shows more analysis. Determinism is the doctrine that all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. While free will is the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion. This sets individuality against the universe. The universe can be regarded as having either natural laws which mindlessly govern activity in a mechanical fashion, or as having an intentional stance, having a mind which determines action through will, such as gods are supposed to have. Individual will is an intentional stance that opposes universal laws or the activity of the gods. One can question whether the universe as a whole has will in the intentional stance sense, because proving gods (1 or more) exist seems out of the question. That nature's activity seems rather overpowering in a deterministic sense is pretty obvious, but why that is is not. Quantum mechanics shows us a certain proportion of indeterminacy on a microscopic scale. This is not apparent on the macroscopic scale, but it seems to mean things will never repeat themselves in quite the same way but the variations on the macroscopic scale will be subtle to say the least. The chance, or randomness of particle interaction is not will because there seems to be no intention behind it, it just happens. It is also constrained statistically so it cannot be said to be free either. Recent experiments with the human brain seem to show our sense of will is illusory, that the brain comes to make certain kinds of decisions in a mechanical way, and the results of this 'decision' comes into awareness after the fact, often seconds, as much as seven seconds after the fact. That means consciousness is passive, and does nothing, since it does not know what is happening until after the deed is done. This could hardly be said to be the activity of will. If anything, it is a demonstration of the effect of universal determinism, unless we conclude that micro quantum events introduce an element of chance. But has we note, chance is not a constrained by the concept of will, it bypasses will altogether, but is statistically constrained, which in a sense means its effect is at least partially determined, it is not free in the sense of unconstrained, its functioning is not at its own discretion. Chance has no mind. So we are left with mechanical determined universal action without an intentional stance behind it, both for the universe and for us, but we have the idea in our heads, that we have an intentional stance, even if it is not really there. And then there is that throw of the quantum dice, which prevents us from ever figuring out exactly what is happening when we look deeply into the matter. As for the concept of karmic rebound, not sure how that works or if it exists. If something happens, then something else happens because things are interconnected. I just lifted a pen off my desk, and then put it back down on the desk. What is the karmic rebound here? I have no idea what that would mean in this situation. Suppose a universe in which each person lives, and dies, and is not immortal and vanishes forever at death (kind of like ours). Suppose this person commits a murder in this universe, and is never caught, never even suspected, and this person subsequently lives a happy life filled with joy until he/she dies. What is the karmic rebound in this situation? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a little difficult to explain, but I'll try. When you perform an action, the karmic rebound is certain. However, when, where and how that rebound will occur cannot be predi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Machinelike or Random?
Xeno, I don't understand it as a statement of logic. I understand it as a koan, a statement meant to take the mind beyond logic to a deeper truth. I find there is a level of life where all contradictions exist together. It is beyond thought and feeling. I sometimes call it knowingness, but resonance might be a more descriptive word. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Machinelike or Random? That is of course Share, a logical contradiction; hence, false. A statement like this acts as a metaphor for a certain way of understanding how the universe runs, provided you can penetrate the metaphor for its real significance. What has determinism? What has free will? Since they are diametrically opposed in function, what could this mean, if it means anything at all? Since the statement is literally untrue, why does it feel right to you? Is that feeling correct, or is it based on some hidden assumption which allows you accept a falsehood. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ...I heard Maharishi say: 100% determinism and 100% free will. That feels right to me. #yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641 -- #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp #yiv8990101641hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp #yiv8990101641ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp .yiv8990101641ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp .yiv8990101641ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-mkp .yiv8990101641ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-sponsor #yiv8990101641ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-sponsor #yiv8990101641ygrp-lc #yiv8990101641hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641ygrp-sponsor #yiv8990101641ygrp-lc .yiv8990101641ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641activity span .yiv8990101641underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 dd.yiv8990101641last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8990101641 dd.yiv8990101641last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8990101641 dd.yiv8990101641last p span.yiv8990101641yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641file-title a, #yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641file-title a:active, #yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641file-title a:hover, #yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641photo-title a, #yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641photo-title a:active, #yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641photo-title a:hover, #yiv8990101641 div.yiv8990101641photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8990101641 div#yiv8990101641ygrp-mlmsg #yiv8990101641ygrp-msg p a span.yiv8990101641yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv8990101641 .yiv8990101641MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv8990101641 o {font-size:0;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv8990101641reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv8990101641 #yiv89901
Re: [FairfieldLife] Machinelike or Random?
Richard, I heard Maharishi say: 100% determinism and 100% free will. That feels right to me. From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Machinelike or Random? You really can't have it both ways, Share. We are either free or we are bound. If free, then there would be no reason to employ a yoga; if bound, by what means can we free ourselves? Based on the theory of karma we all get our due based on the idea that whatever goes up must come down. There's no human levitation because that would negate the law of karma, cause and effect. So, we are bound by the physical laws of causation - this applies to everyone in the physical as well as the mental world (samkaras) of human existence. We are what we were. This law applies to everyone without exception. The only way to be free is to be able to transcend the physical world of matter and our own mental preoccupations. In order to free oneself, you must go beyond mind and intellect and experience the pure consciousness (samadhi). The path from suffering is the introduction of the pure consciousness thru yoga. To rise above (siddhi) the limitations of name and form and *isolate* the Purusha. Otherwise, you are bound to suffer in this world by the mere fact of being born, living, age and death - nobody gets out of here alive, but yogis enjoy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : noozguru, does it have to be either or? Can it not be both and? Or even neither? From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Machinelike or Random? Are you machinelike or random? #yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529 -- #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp #yiv5516703529hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp #yiv5516703529ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp .yiv5516703529ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp .yiv5516703529ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-mkp .yiv5516703529ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-sponsor #yiv5516703529ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-sponsor #yiv5516703529ygrp-lc #yiv5516703529hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529ygrp-sponsor #yiv5516703529ygrp-lc .yiv5516703529ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5516703529 #yiv5516703529activity span .yiv5516703529underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv5516703529 .yiv5516703529bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 dd.yiv5516703529last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5516703529 dd.yiv5516703529last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5516703529 dd.yiv5516703529last p span.yiv5516703529yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529file-title a, #yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529file-title a:active, #yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529file-title a:hover, #yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529photo-title a, #yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529photo-title a:active, #yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529photo-title a:hover, #yiv5516703529 div.yiv5516703529photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5516703529 div#yiv5516703529ygrp-mlmsg #yiv5516703529ygrp-msg p a span.yiv5516703529yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: so beautiful
Mike, I think it's pretty amazing just as it is (-: From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: so beautiful M once said that one of the final experiences one has as he/she approaches Unity is the experience of Hiranyagarbha. It is the experience of *seeing* the universe from outside and at a distance, looking back on itself. It's supposed to look like a golden egg. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: so beautiful Glad (-: From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: so beautiful Like. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Truth - THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND | Facebook | | | | | | | | | | | The Truth - THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND | Fa...THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND ♦♦♦ Like, if you agree. Comment, we all learn from each other! Share, always pas... | | | | View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208 -- #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp #yiv2063509208hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp #yiv2063509208ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp .yiv2063509208ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp .yiv2063509208ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-mkp .yiv2063509208ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-sponsor #yiv2063509208ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-sponsor #yiv2063509208ygrp-lc #yiv2063509208hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208ygrp-sponsor #yiv2063509208ygrp-lc .yiv2063509208ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208activity span .yiv2063509208underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 dd.yiv2063509208last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2063509208 dd.yiv2063509208last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2063509208 dd.yiv2063509208last p span.yiv2063509208yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208file-title a, #yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208file-title a:active, #yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208file-title a:hover, #yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208photo-title a, #yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208photo-title a:active, #yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208photo-title a:hover, #yiv2063509208 div.yiv2063509208photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2063509208 div#yiv2063509208ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2063509208ygrp-msg p a span.yiv2063509208yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv2063509208 .yiv2063509208MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv2063509208 o {font-size:0;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv2063509208 #yiv2063509208photos d
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: so beautiful
Glad (-: From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: so beautiful Like. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Truth - THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND | Facebook | | | | | | | | | | | The Truth - THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND | Fa...THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND ♦♦♦ Like, if you agree. Comment, we all learn from each other! Share, always pas... | | | | View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753 -- #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp #yiv0714371753hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp #yiv0714371753ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp .yiv0714371753ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp .yiv0714371753ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mkp .yiv0714371753ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-sponsor #yiv0714371753ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-sponsor #yiv0714371753ygrp-lc #yiv0714371753hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-sponsor #yiv0714371753ygrp-lc .yiv0714371753ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753activity span .yiv0714371753underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 dd.yiv0714371753last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0714371753 dd.yiv0714371753last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0714371753 dd.yiv0714371753last p span.yiv0714371753yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753file-title a, #yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753file-title a:active, #yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753file-title a:hover, #yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753photo-title a, #yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753photo-title a:active, #yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753photo-title a:hover, #yiv0714371753 div.yiv0714371753photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0714371753 div#yiv0714371753ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0714371753ygrp-msg p a span.yiv0714371753yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv0714371753 o {font-size:0;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv0714371753 .yiv0714371753replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv0714371753 input, #yiv0714371753 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv0714371753 #yiv0714371753ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv0714371753 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv0714371753