I traced back one or two TM mantras in the same way that a past-life trace is
performed. It went a long way back to some guy in a forest (who was not sitting
around in padmâsana looking like Shiva). However, the mantra emerged in
radiant, exalted perception - sort of a cross between an shining r
Apparently Thunderbird doesn't allow you to understand common
English. So I'll repeat my question ...
"What is the position of the TMO towards the authority of the Shankaracharyas
since the TMO is technically not a Hindoo organization?"
Does anyone on the list know the views of the Shan
The Shankaracharyas are Hindu authorities - sort of like four (4) pontiffs
among the smarta-s. What is the position of the TMO towards the authority of
the Shankaracharyas since the TMO is technically not a Hindoo organization?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Nandkishore, do
"Pure" Awareness? ...
So what is "Impure" Awareness? Awareness with a "content"? If so then such a
definition would include the use of a mantra also.
Awareness (pure or impure) is neither an experience nor an experiencer.
Awareness precedes the separation between these two.
The m
Yes.
Sure enough - this is beyond your understanding. However, you shouldn't
interrupt our conversation because it is exceeds you.
Not everything here on FFL is about you.
Yes, it was coming across excerpts in anthologies of Stephen MacKenna's
acclaimed translation of the Enneads that intrigued me. Yep, me too. I like the
MacKenna version because it is readable. However, I actually use the
translation by A.H. Armstrong of the complete Enneads in 7 volumes in the L
You declared your zero interest yet you read the post and thus your mind is now
boggled.
You called it "a waste of life" - thus admitting to wasting your life by
reading it.
"Dueling Egos" need to be occupied to maintain a sense of worth. Don't
discourage them from frivolous pursuits.
The Seraph sez:
Yes, but the Christian theologians were indebted to the Neoplatonists,
especially the divine Plotinus and Iamblichus.
Emptybill sez:
The doctrine of the Trinity was decided by decree not by philosophic analysis.
The Platonists (nothing neo about them) set the stage
Back to the usual clap-trap.
If there is no false interpretation then Buddhists are free to believe that:
1. there is an eternal Atman along with
2. a changeless, eternal substance supporting the universe and
3. a personal god who creates people like you to subvert the essential
Barack Hussein O'Muslim said it so well ...
We have never been "just a Christian nation". America has long included Jews,
Mormons, Freemasons and other non-Christians. They made up proly close to 5%.
Now we have Muslims here to ennoble us and lead us to Dar-As-Salam.
A purported $9.7 Billion fortune.
Hummh ...
Could the TMO just be about the $$$?
May this is what they mean by evolution of consciousness.
A recent Gallup poll refutes the claim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik made by Barack Obama on March 9,
2008 that “we are no longer a Christian nation.”
Gallup http://www.gallup.com/ found that three quarters of all Americans - a
supermajority - identify themselves as Christians,
Since this thread is about assaying alien life, my guess is that both
Bari2 and Sharon are aliens who are now trying to change the topic so they can
more easily cover up their scaley hides.
What else but to keep you from "Sharon" them.
Just repeat to the clerk ... my name ain't Sharon.
Robin claimed enlightenment. Professor claims "only as much".
Enlightenment! Enlightenment!
If it was a candy bar we could eat a piece to get "only as much".
If we ate the whole bar we could claim to be "The World Teacher".
Either way, when we got to the end we could say "I gave it up".
The American Civil Liberties Union filed suit
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/30/us-usa-security-aclu-idUSBRE9BQ0DA20131230
against the US Government yesterday to force disclosure of the executive order
dealing with electronic surveillance. The suit relates to executive order
12333 that
Where are the aliens? Consider this ...
http://www.space.com/9206-finding-harder-aliens-digital.html
http://www.space.com/9206-finding-harder-aliens-digital.html
"You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get."
This sound similar to Robin's self-delusion. The real truth has long ago been
put into plain words.
No one is going to "get" enlightened. Ever!
What is this "enlightenment"? There never was and never will b
New Bomber Can Nuke US Military Bases, Brags Chinese State Med
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That is an excellent recommendation.
The Trinity is a theological formulation in Christianity ... not a
philosophical idea. It is also defined differently between Latin based
traditions (Catholic and Protestant) and Greek based traditions (Eastern
Orthodox).
Speculating about the Chr
I recently read an article that discussed the impending search for the spectral
signatures of organic life. That search is going on now and is expected to
yield positive evidence soon enough. All such estimates are based on the
probabilities revealed by a revised formula.
However, the sear
Wolf Baiter
You are showing your vicious side.
Obviously you are trying to usurp the
throne so you can now declare yourself
as the Ankle Bite Queen.
You can just call me Phool Das if that works better.
If we were PhD.s we wouldn't be here. Academics don't inhabit forums like this
but take their insights and judgements to professional conferences and to
academic journals.
Primary teacher was Alfonso Verdu, originally an academic Jesuit who s
(bada bing!) Be pleased that this is your reward for being a loyal menshevik.
It is all preparation for the Euro-Muslim apocalypse.
Look down and smell the sulfur -- you kafir!
Wake up and smell the sulfur.
The link will enable you to download a .pdf of an important presentation
by someone who mastered these jhana-s/dyana-s.
The cultural critic on why ignoring the biological differences between men and
women risks undermining Western civilization itself.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303997604579240022857012920
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB100014240527023039976045792400228570129
Oh yeah ... the Bolshevik revolution.
And everyone free and equal.
Thanks for the comedy sidelights.
The name is Ajahn Brahmavamso or Ajahn Brahm for short, not
A.J. Bahm. Get your fact straight "professor".
Read this to see how close it is to MMY's practice.
http://ebookbrowsee.net/ajahn-brahm-the-jhanas-pdf-d216535250
http://ebookbrowsee.net/ajahn-brahm-the-jhanas-pdf-d216535250
These wall icons are traditional Orthodox murals for older churches and
monasteries. Most Orthodox churches in America don't have the luxury of a wide
population so they don't have many artists trained in following the Orthodox
canons of iconography.
Russia and Greece dominate in this area.
Don't you have anything better than these old '60-s blah blah?
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=kAPCaagc3QsC&oi=fnd&pg=PR7&dq=alfonso+verdu&ots=Dwdjq2ldx5&sig=qR41Va-LeAUYTIID9U-Y-D3eopc#v=onepage&q=alfonso%20verdu&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=kAPCaagc3QsC&oi=fn
Not good, not bad.
You need to read James Swartz's "How to Attain Enlightenment", which is a good
presentation of the basis and ramifications of Shankara's teachings. Swami
Dayananada
While the publisher probably insisted upon the title, he must have found it
quite amusing to imply that somet
Share
P.S. ... the original artists are either mind-painting up a storm in the
Christian heaven or have been reborn here to dance with the devils.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/27/Ten-People-Groups-and-Countries-Thrown-Under-Obamas-Bus-in-2013
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/27/Ten-People-Groups-and-Countries-Thrown-Under-Obamas-Bus-in-2013
Better than a painting is this:
http://www.700mountains.org/2012/08/the-divine-meteora-of-greece/
http://www.700mountains.org/2012/08/the-divine-meteora-of-greece/
I find the inevitable sing-song TM mode of speaking to be difficult to
listen to for very long. It sounds so TM-robotic in presentation that I
cringe. Apparently I've been out of the kool-aid loop too long.
Wasn't sent by me but it is a nice picture.
Probably this staged photo was part of a $ deal
with the money going to the monastery. However
since they seem to be Tibetan monks they proly
kept the $ for themselves. Why else risk falling?
In general I don't reply to the psucho-nuts.
I basically don't care what they say to me or say about me.
That is because they lack "standing".
I am not alone is consigning them to the class of people who are willfully
engaged at being "outraged".
My advise is to realize that your need t
Great idea Buck.
Combatants can create an alternate Yahoo email i.d. to communicate their
hateful, malevolent thoughts about each other.
Vaj and I knew each others actual alternate Yahoo i.d.
We disagreed about many things "TM" but sometimes took
it off the "mat" to clarity a point of
festus
You are wasting you time. Judy draws her pistol at just the word "you".
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides
the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog,
there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, s
It'll be real interesting living here in the Un-United States to watch the pub
boys battle the Paki-s on the streets of so many English cities and towns. If
the Paki-s can take over a town or small city then they can declare strict
Sharia and institute their dream of Dar-as-Salam.
It will be h
t be cool to go to one of Osama's camps for training.
He hated it and when he came back to the US was arrested. Worse yet they
arrested his dad who didn't want any part of Islamic zealousness and loves the
US.
On 12/22/2013 03:48 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
Ju
Just wait ... the rivers of blood will flow.
Will they flow toward you?
What utter BS.
Here is just a tidbit about how much they admired the Jews.
4:91 http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/4/index.htm#91 Take them
[unbelivers] and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given
you clear warrant.
2:65 And you know well the story of those among y
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/12/conspiracy-so-vast/?intcmp=obnetwork
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/12/conspiracy-so-vast/?intcmp=obnetwork
The majority of Muslims in Europe believe Islamic Sharia law should take
precedence over the secular constitutions and laws of their European host
countries, according to a new study, which warns that Islamic fundamentalism is
widespread and rising sharply in Western Europe.
http://www.gatest
feste37 sez:
He strikes me as mentally unbalanced. A bit of a psycho.
His ex-wife said the same here sometime ago.
The Mean Girls get meaner.
How about if we have a contest for the most spiteful, mean-spirited comments?
Of course, one is not enough ... we gotta have a bunch to get a good
evaluation.
What should we offer as the prize?
A ritualistic, matriarchal human sacrifice?
Bet some "Ladies" here
A report released on Tuesday by the Center for Public Integrity says Chinese
hackers attacked the Federal Election Commission (FEC) website that contains
records of donations received and spent by federal candidates.
The Chinese hacking of the FEC website occurred nearly a year after the
Gover
Explain this claim:
My teacher, the late Lama Anagorika Govinda...
Prenups will probably become the norm for multiple marriage partners.
Imagine the difficulty sorting out the law among divergent claims for progeny
parentage and progeny divorce. Yep ... including kids divorcing their parents
in court.
As always, our friendly attorney$ will save us from wasti
Once this spreads you can kiss your ass goodbye.
A document currently circulating through the Washington state government
details the attempt to vastly expand Continuity of Government powers by
amending the state’s constitution.
http://www.storyleak.com/document-reveals-states-move-vastly-exp
First gay-lesbian marriage. Then polygamist and group marriages. This was
predicted and surely will come to pass.
There was never any reason other than Judeo-Christian religious law for its
banning in the first place. However, it may bring some degree of social chaos.
Imagine having two or thre
Buck,
You won't get much real knowledge by consulting the opinions found in a
freshman theme paper - maybe even a high-school freshman paper at that. (If you
get my meaning.)
The sources of the Dome derive from the vedi, the Vedic fire altar. This
formal influence extends down to the Budd
It is even worse than most people thought. It is the United Statsi of Amerika.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/stunning-revelation-from-man-who-sued-nsa/
http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/stunning-revelation-from-man-who-sued-nsa/
The Professor sez about E-Bill:
He never gets back to anyone except for a few snarks anyway and I've yet to
see him post anything very profound or even interesting.
I say that the Professor has been asleep and didn't pick up this thread
quoting Patanjali, Vyasa and Shankara when it began.
When we start ascending towards 200 posts per week per person, we should no
longer call it FFL "ad astra" but corn-field compost.
Others might call the majority of it "thoughtless drivel" - which is apparently
what is passed off for claims of yogic, high samâdhi.
Patanjali proly had a sutra d
Vata mantras? Are you saying rahm or rum?
The mantra "ram(rum) is the bhuta bija of fire.
So what are you talking about?
And you know what a fatty is because ... ?
167 posts for Richard and his brother Richard J.
And the reason ...? "Because I could".
This is what happens when someone posts to validate themselves.
Not even Judy comes close.
Mere prattle. Refuse to consider it. Don't worry - be happy. Smoke another one.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/12/beneath-yellowstone-a-volcano-that-could-wipe-out-u-s/
http://nypost.com/2013/12/12/beneath-yellowstone-a-volcano-that-could-wipe-out-u-s/
Why quote such a psuchophantic bullshitter. He committed seppuku without the
honor of serving faithfully. Which one of MMY's seven states is this?
An-artaxios sez:
"I recall reading something long ago about the gnostics, that our awareness is
imprisoned, and there are seven levels to this prison and we have to escape
each one before we are free."
These stations are known as the toll-houses of the soul. Each one is
controlled by an plan
I don't know where MMY got this schemata either. It is not some seven states
schema found in some distant yogic or vedantic literature. I think MMY just
made it up.
However, I believe he "made it up" with a view towards traditional Vedanta's
categories of states of consciousness. That invo
Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of consciousness? Did he
just make it up?
The professor just repeated a few descriptions without answering the question.
Anyone else know?
http://dailyreckoning.com/what-to-do-when-china-nukes-the-u-s/
http://dailyreckoning.com/what-to-do-when-china-nukes-the-u-s/
Wolf Baiter sez:
Perhaps Richard cares. But then you might be right. What are we? Suppose that
in reality we are all NOBODY inside, that our personal life is but the stuff
dreams are made of, a fiction created by mistaking our idea of ourselves for
something that is real?
Great synopsis
One lives down South in a major city. The other works at a Rocky Mt. winter
resort. One has to put on a jacket sometimes. The other works at a ski shop.
Warmth is built in for both.
I'd be more worried about roaming zombies coming over the wire in a major city.
If an EMP blasts occurs all bets
Finally we find out how to get only a one word statement from the professor.
Do less. Think less. Understand less. Be less.
Don't worry - be happy. Smoke another one.
Hmmm ...
Typical hindoo apocrypha
Just call up jeezus on yur cell phone and say "hey jeezus ... I'm making you a
little manger in my heart. Jus' say ... 'I' am throwing down 'my' 'I' an'
puttin' 'You" on 'my' throne. Jeezus yur my CEO, etc.
A single EMP detonation along the upper West coast will turn Chanukastan into a
dark hole after the fourth day. The hoards will roam looking for food because
of the barren shelves and inoperable gas stations.
Think North Korean balloon launch from a submarine in prelude to an invasion
of t
Nuns who set up earthen altars to the great mother ... which happened here
(back in the late '70) at a retreat center. That was before the the U.S
Conference of Catholic Bishops was pacified by changing the center name from
Sanskrit to English and instituting a strictly Catholic prayer and "retr
And no possible chance of over-arching conflict with the North Koreans.
Everyone knows they are really just bluffing so they can get more Gucci belts
for their consorts.
Don't you realize that the Inquisition still exists?
It is now called The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Yep, it was always male-dominated, church-appointed accusers but the "civil
authorities" enacted the torture and punishment.
Sorta like the current inquisitions into the
Don't you realize that the Inquisition still exists?
It is now called The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Yep, it was always male-dominated, church-appointed accusers but the "civil
authorities" enacted the torture and punishment.
Sorta like the current inquisitions into the
OK meister professor ... tell us the where MMY got the teachings about the
seven states of consciousness.
You wanna lecture us? Here's your chance.
Cite the specific, traditional sources for MMY's schema.
However, no speculation!
MMY asserted that his teachings were the embodimen
High level government documents reveal that the Pentagon is preparing in full
force for ‘large scale economic meltdown’ and massive revolt via the US public
— exactly what we are criticized for doing. No wonder they are purchasing
hundreds of millions of rounds for small arms.
Read it and we
From DHS enacting ‘Constitution-free zones‘, to executive orders taking over
all forms of communication authority within the United States — the Obama
Administration has already gone far beyond corruption and deception and into an
entirely new level of dictatorial control. And now, even leading
In what amounts to one of the most blatant displays of how truly corrupt the
entire hierarchy of the establishment has become, church groups feeding the
homeless are now being targeted by law enforcement and local government around
the nation.
Back on November 29th, I was alerted to the real
Since when is Turq an actual, real Tantrika?
Freddy was Mr. B.S. Guru ... so he doesn't count.
As far as represented, Turq is a TINO, Tantric in Name Only.
If a real Tantrika, I have some of the standard questions:
Who was or is his teacher/lineage?
What teachings did he receive which he still p
The Romans were horrified by the practice of human sacrifice which they found
during their conquests. They not only banned it but also persecuted anyone
found practicing it.
The Roman ideal was the Spartan civilization of heroic men performing valiant
deeds in battle. Think of the movie Gl
You forgot the best part ...
Maybe we should also reinstate human sacrifice and return to matriarchy's good
graces.
Yeah ... that's it. You offer yourself first and then we'll sit around making
up slogans praising you.
Ugh ...
Perhaps we should all be more relaxed about the spiritual trip and just let
Mother Nature take her course. She probably knows better than us what it's all
about.
What utter ecco-babble this is. Terra Mater is a Viscious Bitchious with no
heart, no conscience and no real intelligence.
Take your pick - invite Shiva-Shakti into your heart or Jesus into your heart.
Just remember though - Allah is already there waiting to throw you into the
eternal fire.
After all, you are indeed an unbeliever (kafir).
The TMO translation: “Whether pure or impure, whoever opens thems
Who needs one anyway? It's been outdated by the Great One. He'll protect us!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/05/Exclusive-McClintock-The-Great-Question-Will-Our-Constitution-Stand
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They are here just for you.
http://www.infowars.com/ministry-of-homeland-security-rolls-out-armored-vechiles/
http://www.infowars.com/ministry-of-homeland-security-rolls-out-armored-vechiles/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/inside-china-nuclear-submarines-capable-of-widespr/?page=1
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/inside-china-nuclear-submarines-capable-of-widespr/?page=1
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/inside-china-nuclear-submarine
Indebted governments may soon consider a big one-time levy on capital assets.
70% recommended for the USA ... Bhari2 should love it.
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Rick should loan you $1 to start your own group.
After all ... the purity of the teachings is reflected in
the purity of an individual's consciousness.
Especially yours.
Oh my gods of Maharishi. Now it can be told!
A mere pup. That explains everything.
No wonder.
Emily May be Not
Richard, some of us missed the Beatles - horrors, I know. I was born in 1962
and was sheltered from popular culture growing up. Regardless of that, I never
associated them with TM unt
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
It would also be interesting to see what percentage of home buyers in the US
are from China. The house I sold back in September was bought by a couple from
China. After all they've got the money. American's don't. So it goes.
I addressed Emily rather than you.
Perhaps you believe you now speak for her and can now answer questions posed to
her. However, I am interested in Emily's response. I have faith that she is
capable of responding directly with some intelligence - unencombered by your
personal likes and dislike
Empty, been noticing Alex Jones using phrases like "absolute enlightenment"
these days?
On 12/01/2013 02:58 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
Yep Bhari2, that has become my question also.
So Emily, since you never learned TM, why are you here on this forum?
Is
http://www.infowars.com/senate-and-house-intelligence-committees-defend-destruction-of-constitution/
http://www.infowars.com/senate-and-house-intelligence-committees-defend-destruction-of-constitution/
Yep Bhari2, that has become my question also.
So Emily, since you never learned TM, why are you here on this forum?
Is this your little gossip parlor?
Maybe instead this is this your prayer hut. So which deity do you pray to
anyway? Yhvh? Jesus? Christos Pantocrator? Is it a He, a She o
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