[FairfieldLife] Re: The cognitive dissonance of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What a presumption you make about how the TM community reacts to such an event. As Share mentioned a few days ago, you have been removed to any involvement for going on 40 years. You view from a distance, as the rest of us do, what Bobby Roth, or DL, or JH say about TM and what it has to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael, You have a fantasy that people don't want you to bring up instances of suicide or other problems in the TMO. Maybe take a look at this seeming need of yours to be some kind of pariah standing up the menacing TMO machine. If you don't like feedback in the form of facts, or other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A nice rap. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Really. This issue really IS not related to TM or any other belief system in my mind, because I've been on the survivor side of suicide a couple of times and gotten to experience the emotional and karmic ripples that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three words that would have changed everything

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, it is sort of funny, that you have become such a MMY scholar or critic, sort of in the same way that someone is a Van Gogh scholar, or maybe a Thomas Jefferson scholar. But do you feel it might be wise to make some sort of caveat about one person's report about what MMY was alleged to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure Michael, you are in the know about all this I presume. When was it again that you left MIU. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yes, it is true that from the outset the vision of possibilities offered was an Ideal Society, Full Potential, etc. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks Share. I'm heading to my son's graduation from HS at the Peabody Opera house. Will catch up later on. (-: On the Saturday my dad died, I had talked to him the night before, and because he had leftovers we decided not to go out for dinner,or for me to bring anything over. Then on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
you contradict yourself in a matter of two sentences and are too dimwitted to realize it. or harboring a bias bordering on hatred and let's face it, what makes you go vocal on any opportunity to impugn TM - any negative comment, from any source, vetted, or unvetted and what do you do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael, you really need to get a life other than this anti TM campaign. It's not a matter of whether to stay silent or not on an issue. You are stuck in a simplistic understanding about the whole organization. Sorry to sound so condescending, but no other way to see it, I'm afraid.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The cognitive dissonance of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Is he Michael? I guess no, In my opinion needed. Funny how that works doesn't it. When you agree with someone, well what they say is just obviously the truth, and okay to present it as such. But then, be sure and make a big stink when an opposing point of view, neglects to include these

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As Ronald Reagan once said, There he goes again. I figure you'd play the Cult Apologist card, or some variation thereof. At least you are right on schedule, Michael. But couldya please be not some damned predictable. Really! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
and you know this because the last time you were on campus was 20 years ago? do I have that right? or tell me then, how long ago was it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : go on campus and get real - that's where the True Believers are From: Share Long

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The three words that would have changed everything

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Okay, you obviously were privy to private conversations. I am not trying to impugn Earl. I am just saying that there is a context in which the comments were made. He also said in that same expose that MMY sucked the vital life of his students, or something to that effect. My apologies

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks. It was a nice ceremony. He scored a 29 on his ACT, and got some good money from University of Dayton, so that is where he is going.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You get called out on inaccuracies pretty regularly. You can go back and find them yourself, or not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you are wearing blinders and are being willfully ignorant of what the TMO is all about. From: steve.sundur@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The graduate and the daughter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Thanks. It was a nice ceremony. He scored a 29 on his ACT, and got some good money from University of Dayton, so that is where he is going.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pondering the non-TM-related issue of suicide

2014-05-25 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks. She wanted a smaller college for him. The big state college didn't work out so well for the oldest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, they look like really nice young adults. And Univ of Dayton isn't so far away (-: On Sunday, May 25, 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nice work if you can get it

2014-05-27 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : snip But the difference between Bawee and me is that I don't then go on and on about how stooopid anyone is who believes in Braco or TM or any other spiritual (or otherwise) practice. Have a little laugh at Braco if you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wha..?

2014-05-27 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
or are these bedroom eyes I'd say they look like, why,oh why did my son climb that high up in the tree again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Does Braco rent his eyes out to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just to follow up on my comment, since I may not be able to do so later, I think what I am trying to say, is that you hear,or read interviews of people who have relocated from other countries, and they will often say, I miss my country. It is screwed up right now, but I'd like to go back, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right. It's like would you say, My mother is a loser? No you wouldn't. You might feel that your birth family is dysfunctional, you might feel that your mother has issues, but you still don't throw her under the bus. As Ann said, you take a moment to lay out the reasons why, in this case,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow, that's extreme. But maybe the analogy does work. Is the US really that out of control? I don't think so. But good for you to come through that intact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : well...I can't agree with this analogy, though it works for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I did a cursory check of the most admired countries. US was #22, just ahead of Brazil. Lower than I expected. On the other hand, I think you create a distorted picture of this lashing out and denial. Maybe if I moved around as you do, I'd feel no affinity towards any place either.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just musing here. I've lived my whole life in pretty much one place, even though I've done a fair amount of traveling. Not too much in Europe other than for TM courses, which as Barry has pointed out was somewhat limited in how much of the country you actually saw. But when I see videos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sometimes the questions arises in my mind, on this forum, Well what are you for? Christ Allmighty, we know what you are against. Every so often, just sprinkle in something in the for column. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, pretty lame to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Funny you should mention that Share, because the image I had in mind about people in other countries looking like those I see everyday, is that of a grandmother type, little pudgy, short white hair done at the hairdresser, with her glasses attached to a chain. (-: Seems like some areas have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know Barry. Why do you continue to reply to Nabby, or Doug? I guess because they say something that you take issue with. It's not complicated. You could, if you wanted, turn it around and say, why do you say things that are exaggerated, or designed simply to get a rise out of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yes, and Barry too. Not Barry II, but the other one. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : That was to MJ, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sometimes the questions arises in my mind, on this forum, Well what are you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I had a friend with whom I had lunch recently talk about the value of Ravi Shankar's breathing exercises, i.e., the merging of the inward and outward breath. He spoke so highly of it, that it almost made me want to consider it. But that horse has sort of left the barn for me, so I don't think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Flowers that look like something else!

2014-05-31 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He shoots, he scores!! Great find. Just got saved to favorites. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : 17 Flowers That Look Like Something Else http://www.boredpanda.com/flowers-look-like-animals-people-monkeys-orchids-pareidolia/

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Career Path

2014-05-31 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Whether they like to admit it or not, everyone on this forum was presented with a clear Career Path once they got involved with the TMO, or whatever other form of the Enlightenment Quest they pursued. It was presented in subtext

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Guru Script

2014-05-31 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
amazing? amazing? Michael, really, it sounds like you are still pretty dialed into that whole mindset. go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thanks for posting that - amazing that he said no. And quite wise too I think. From: TurquoiseBee

[FairfieldLife] Re: The part of the Edward Snowdon interview NBC edited out of prime time

2014-05-31 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, damn, but this post, along with the other is pretty revealing. You realize that you seem to have a pre-occupation with being the big cheese in the room I mean first you project this sort of strange scenario about people watching videos or being in the room with their teacher, all the

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Guru Script

2014-05-31 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Michael, I love you like a brother, but this lens, or filter through which you see the world is outdated in my opinion. Or maybe it's because I've been out of that orbit for so long that I can't think of why someone would want to put themselves in the position of a teacher, and why

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-01 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I forget Sal, who is it that claims TM did not, of does not have some cultish elements about it? I mean, I know you have a minor orgasm when you come upon some new example. I left before the Robin Carlson period, but I imagine he created quite a challenge to the existing structure. So, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's not the situation that existed here. It was more about two teachers occupying the same space. That normally doesn't work too well in any setting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I did not see what you are referring to from DOJ. I can't speak for him. My observation is from many of the contributors here who acknowledge issues with the TMO having some cult like appearances. And also from other people I know who acknowledge this. Many big organizations may have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wowzer. I don't think that's the issue Michael, this seeing of other teachers. That was not the problem the primary problem with RWC. Yes, if you became a follower, evidently there were consequences. But the situation there, as I understand it, was a frontal assault on the organization to

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Story of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, as I understand it. He was an Indian disciple of the MMY's who apparently achieved enlightenment status, and wanted to do his own thing. From what I heard, MMY said go forth and multiply, which he did. Did he do it in the movement's front yard? No. Did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary involvement predated mine. I had the opportunity to see MMY personally many times, but usually not in a small group, and usually not for administrative issues. But never during my time did this issue of seeing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, okay, thanks for the clarification. It really sounds like what Robin was doing was even a little more weird than I understood. I think he miscalculated quite a bit. But he aimed for the fences, so I give him credit for that. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, I missed Barry's point about sweet poison. Oh, okay, well I guess MMY wasn't inclined to give SSRS a ringing endorsement. If that's all that's leaked out of MMY's supposed denigrating of Ravi's technique, I guess it's pretty mild. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael, Michael, this is so radical of you! That MMY and the TMO had shortcomings in your opinion? You are being so harsh on MMY and the TMO. You make it sound like they were nely perfect, but just came up a little short. And those persnickety people who demanded perfection turned

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I would say most, yes most everyone I knew had read the books of different teachers. Granted, it wasn't easy to check them all out in person. But you paint a picture of naivete that I'm afraid is not accurate. And again Barry, I must ask, if the going from teacher to teacher has really

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I made a second reply to this, but I guess it got eaten. In it, I reiterated that it would be useful to get some corroboration to some of these recollections. I mean, Barry, would it be unrealistic to think that your reporting might tend to be a little skewed or exaggerated? And one must

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael, you are just a funny guy. Your range of comprehension for the TM Organization is from bad to very bad. But, it's always such a hoot to see you give such significance to the points between those two. You are a wonderful student of the TMO. And okay, I admit it, I got a big kick

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael, you are just a funny guy. Your range of comprehension for the TM Organization is from bad to very bad. But, it's always such a hoot to see you give such significance to the points between those two. You are a wonderful student of the TMO. And okay, I admit it, I got a big

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-02 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rereading, a couple points come to mind. It would be useful to get some collaboration for some of these recollections. As an informant, Barry, one must ask if you have a vested interest in skewing things in a particular way. On the other hand, one has to ask, how well whatever path you have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I write what I write, and you react the way you react. End of story. Thank goodness Barry, that you don't do this. I guess you something different here. ??? And I wasn't even writing about you. Just some guy you once

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, that original content you talk so much about. I think that got swallowed up by this (your) other agenda. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I write what I write, and you react the way you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, God, I can't resist. How's this? Could this be your motto. I don't get my buttons pushed. I'm the one pushing the buttons ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Oh, that original content you talk so much about. I think that got swallowed up by this (your)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : snip If all you can do is play shoot the messenger, then I thank you for participating, by confirming my cultist thesis. Glad to oblige Barry. Is it akin to hunting for truffles? Do you get like a boner when you get a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Okay, I'm coming in late on this. Rick, thank you for your comments. Well, there we have a comment from an experienced teacher, who most likely had more face time with MMY, and cannot corroborate Barry's accounts, at least first hand, and has not said anything about a second hand account.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I just find it odd, that Barry seems to feel he has monopoly on this button pushing thing. I guess you can define having your buttons pushed, in number of different ways. A person says something you disagree with, and you respond. Did you just get your buttons pushed? Somebody says

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, we all heard the story of Muktananda. And okay, MMY claiming the TM was superior is quite a bit different than the accounts Barry has related of MMY acting the role of a petty tyrant banishing anyone who strayed, and then as though saying ANYONE ELSE? to the huddled crowd. Could it be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I know someone from the Rama trip who was a Muktananda student, and who was actually present at one of those meetings with Maharishi. Suffice it to say that none of Muktananda's students needed such a talking to, because were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Look, I like Barry. I really do, but how bout, Barry Bilbo Baggins Edward Snowden Wright! P.S. I am one who really likes nicknames. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other Teachers'

2014-06-03 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just like the way it rolled off the tongue somehow. I think you are on the right track with Walter though. Or how bout just Walt ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Why Bilbo Baggins? Do you suspect Barry of having hairy feet? I would like to work Walter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Living in an American Indian village

2014-06-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I like that. I wonder how that works. The ether maybe? I have read accounts of clairvoyants picking up on events that occurred in different places. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I am living in a trailer park, but I think it used to be something

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You know Barry, everything you say here may be true. And really, I don't think many would disagree, because it sort of doesn't matter in this setting. I think most people get this idea that subjective experiences are just that. What I find kind of odd, is that you've made this, like, you're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
hey Michael, you do know that most bank robberies net about $3,000.00 right? And most bank robbers seem pretty unsophisticated. This is not like the movies. Now, you may have a point that it is not likely for a patron who happened to be armed to intervene unless he himself were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your reply. This evening as I was walking back from our softball game, (where we were beaten soundly, again), I was feeling pretty good. I felt as though I was experiencing some of the things I had learned from MMY, and the Vedic literature. But over the past several

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Shhh! Ann, keep quiet! Maybe Michael will pick up the scent of this Bob Ficke and forget about the TMO for a while. Maybe(-; ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh and check

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Michael, FWIW, (and I've told this story before), it was the summer of '74. I was in Snowmass Co, for an end summer sojourn, and one afternoon, stuck my thumb out at the intersection of Hwy 82 and Brush Creek Rd. and hitchhiked to Cobb Mountain Academy. Cobb was a nice facility.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
thanks Ann. Dunno. Just cruisin along here! (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Shhh! Ann, keep quiet! Maybe Michael will pick up the scent of this Bob Ficke and forget about the TMO for a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harri Aalto's Observations of Reality

2014-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I feel Nokia might have had more longevity as a product if they had had a second a on the end. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : Just checked it out: Aalto is a surprisingly common family name in Finland. Aalto (wave) : about 18 500 Aaltonen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot in Chico

2014-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think I mentioned this before, (that does happen after a while, doesn't it) Some years ago while in Colorado during the winter, and on exceptionally cold days, in the morning, I would take a 100% cold shower. And then I would notice that I would stay warmer during the day. I made sure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered

2014-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the first things I learned, of course, is how much residual NPD I had in myself, having picked up so much of it from my one-time role models. NPD is contagious. So I set myself a mindfulness task, to try to detect those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered

2014-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Some here will disagree, but let's face it, who are they that I should be concerned what they say? They're not me, so what do they matter? :-) :-) :-) I remember reading an article of about Joseph Nacchio, on the few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the faux charisma of the Narcissistic Personality Disordered

2014-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ego seems to be my pet project. can't worry about the other ones right now. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, another perspective on all this that I like comes from Lester Levensen who puts pride at the top of the negative emotions, just above anger

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS

2014-06-11 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, you are right. Waking State generally applies to an unenlightened state of consciousness. First you have your waking, sleeping and dreaming states of consciousness. Then you have your cosmic consciousnesses, which is transcendental consciousnesses, along with the other three - waking,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS

2014-06-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
you know, I think you have to give someone a little wiggle room in expressing themself. I would not call Share's comment expressing a negative emotion. I would call it defending oneself in as positive a way a possible. Not that she has to defend herself, but if she cared to respond, then I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Share's Soldiers

2014-06-14 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share go easy on them. Your Durga side is manifesting and they are not ready for it. This astra is too powerful. They may not realize it, but I do! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, this is almost as twisted as your reaction of delight wrt Robin's crudity

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Onward Share's Soldiers

2014-06-14 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Judy, no problem. The thing is, it's the same Share, only a slightly darker shade. Perhaps you've not been able to appreciate her more subtle nuances which are always there and cover the whole range. It's normally the more inclusive side we see. But it's there, you just have to be able

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks. Wife still out of town. Gonna try to get the 21 year old to cut the grass like he's been promising to do. May go to HuHot with the daughter for dinner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Happy Father's Day to all the dads on here, and all those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If we had a dog, I'd have to fence in our yard and probably install an automatic gate, neither of which I have an inclination to do because of how I'd like our yard to be, and because of the expense. But fortunately the neighbors on either side do have dogs, and I am able to interact with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Their son, who lives behind them already got a three month old German Shepard mix from the shelter. They were out of town, so he is surprising them today when they get home. We met the little pup yesterday, and she is cute, but then again some dogs are extra special. Dutchess fell into that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca in Brooklyn

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That lifted my spirits some! Thanks Ann! (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Ann, I'll see your body painted boobs and raise you a Smurf. Oh Raunchy, you know you're going to get us both

Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
She was losing patches of fur, and evidently the medicine they were giving her resulted in the mucus in her eyes, which the son would try to clean out every day. Sometimes he would do it during her chicken snack as she was sufficiently distracted. But thanks for the recommendation. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow, I'm not familiar with it. I have about a 1 patch of psoriasis just below my knee. Maybe that will work for it. I'll have to find out how to get it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, last year my Dad almost died from a tiny scratch on his leg, from a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey I just got 14 molasses suckers and a bag of cinnamon pecans. Life is good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I was looking at a rider mower with a cup holder, and cruise control. Rig a boom box on the back, and be the talk of the neighborhood! ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
oh yes, we live a few block away from the Hispanic area. they are quite prevalent, and even seem to be cropping up in places you don't expect them. probably everyone remembers when it was a big deal to get Coors Beer. Whenever you knew someone going to Colorado, it was always, bring me back

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh thank you Ann. 3124 Longfellow Blvd. St. Louis, 63104 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : That's great, Steve. Hey, just wanted to say that you can probably get colloidal silver at a good health

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
thank you again. everyone is home for the summer, so I am sure it will find many uses. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Oh thank you Ann. 3124 Longfellow Blvd. St. Louis, 63104 I'll send it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!

2014-06-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Okay, thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : That's great, Steve. Hey, just wanted to say that you can probably get colloidal silver at a good health food store. Also definitely online. On Sunday, June 15, 2014 4:18 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect

2014-06-16 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
well, for those inclined to discuss their experiences, great. But I think there is a natural predisposition to keep to oneself about experiences. Of course, that is just me. It's been brought up several times that the yogic flyers have been encouraged to discuss their A experiences. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Here's what I find kind of interesting, if I've got it right. When a person returns to posting after being away for a while, you expect a fresh perspective, like we got from RD, with that beautiful poem, and also noticing that she refrains from participating in negativity. (okay, 2016

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Michael, how you doin'? Now, that is sort of funny. That wasn't the question I asked, but you have knack of tying anything to your usual theme. Yes, no doubt there was a lot of repetition in MMY's message. Yes, it could get rather dull. But for me, well, I found many gems. I gained

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And it's also kind of funny. One day you'll get a bunch of posts here about how he wasn't qualified to be a teacher of meditation because of this reason or that reason, or that he didn't follow the traditional Indian protocols, and then the next day you'll get an equal number of posts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Michael, It would be better if you just said,I don't care to address your point in any kind of meaningful way. Instead, I'm going to launch into my usual tirade against TM and MMY Probably you are taking the Hitler comment out of context. I get the feeling that you probably spend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Doesn't it seem like that the praising Hitler card gets a lot of play all over the place. I mean, it's like if any public figure ever mentions Hitler, somehow or other it usually surfaces as He praised Hiitler. Do you hear me, the guy praised Hitler. And then when you look into it, it's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra's Consciousness Challenge....

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Shit! It's nice to see a well reasoned argument. I mean I don't know if it's the final word, or even accurate, but is sure sounds well thought out! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, thanks Share. I wrote those comments not having had a particularly good nights sleep, and I sure didn't express myself very clearly. I'm pretty tired now, so I hope the same thing doesn't happen. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, that thus sayeth

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, why don't you fill us in on it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I saw one of the tapes, actually by a twist of fate. I know what he said. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Pray tell. What facts have I skewed/ I'll wait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You are a sycophant, a Marshy stooge. If anyone skews the facts tis you. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle:Badbury Rings, nr Wimborne Minster, Dorset, . Report 17th June.

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This one is the closest to me yet this year. I was walking around Badbury rings just the other day actually. Nice place for a picnic or to get abducted and taken to the Pleiadies... You must first get clearance

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What fact have I skewed? I'll wait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You are a sycophant, a Marshy stooge. If anyone skews the facts tis you. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann

2014-06-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yes, the heat has been quite oppressive. sometimes the mental stuff can get in the way of a good nights sleep. not often, but still, occasionally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I'm guessing that you all are having the same pulverizing heat that we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube

2014-06-26 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ha!, that's funny Ann. BTW, the colloidal silver has worked very well in the little patch of psoriasis or dry skin below my knee. I've had that patch for about 20 years and during that time managed to go to the skin doctor a couple of times. In both cases they gave me a topical ointment

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement

2014-06-26 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Monkeys. I want monkeys flying out of butts! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/26/2014 2:28 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's Maitreya, a non-existent master, communication with whom Benjy has parlayed

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