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Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Pretends He Dosen't Know Public Option Is Popular
I am remembering election 2008, there were people who thought that McCain Palin wouldactually sin based on Palin´s popularity in the polls. I don´t believe most of what the media reports it seems they are fair weather or highest payer information sources. By the way they are reporting things Obama will have ratings lower than Bush next week. Even though the loans to banks are being repaid, even car companies are paying money back with profit. The other stimulus efforts are too early yet to say but all people can talk about on the news is how much Obama is spending. Not how much was wasted on Iraq and qho knows what else. Now that the birth certificate issue has gone away he has become Hitler. So based upon all the noise it is hard to know what to believe from the media. What is absolutely absurd is the idea that any parant in America would even think about keeping their child home from school to protest the President. This is taking racism too far. --- On Sat, 9/5/09, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama Pretends He Dosen't Know Public Option Is Popular To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 12:42 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: Actually the MAJORITY 77% of the people want a choice for a public option or single payer. But the numbers tell another story, as well. *** Earlier in the week, after pollsters for NBC dropped the word choice from their question on a public option, they found that only 43 percent of the public were in favor of creating a public health care plan administered by the federal government that would compete directly with private health insurance companies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HR3200 will give governement access to your bank accounts
the patriot act already gave that access. Look at what has just happened with UBS. After the Patriot act it was hard for Americans to get accounts in many Eurpean banks especially in Lichtenstein nor who knows. --- On Fri, 8/28/09, WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: HR3200 will give governement access to your bank accounts To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 11:18 PM Mike Dixon, you spread insurance company scripted lies. And worse, he knows it and doesn't care. Mike Dixon wrote: So Barry, what was my lie? It looks like Bill and Barry are the liars. I guess it's true what Judy said about them. Almost all the FICA taxes in the U.S. are automatic payroll deductions taken out of your check by your employer. The employee's share of the Medicare portion is 1.45% of wages. People like Barry are regressive; they have a lower lifetime average wage but they receive a larger benefit, as a percentage of their lifetime average wage income, than do individuals with higher lifetime average wages. They are a drain on the society, not because they are liars, but because they don't pay in their fair share, but they get to go to the government nursing home anyway. If they're self-employed they are supposed to be paying double FICA taxes. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
Ok Kirk now it makes sense because I did no know Sal was on facebook. I will
send on facebook
--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote:
From: Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 7:41 PM
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That was me, not Sal.
- Original Message -
From: Louis McKenzie
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
Thanks Sal
Yes I have an address I do not know it by heart I will send via facebook thanks
--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote:
From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 10:28 AM
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Kirk wrote:
Do you still meditate? Your story sounds awful. Simple truth is if you
meditate with no thought of vengeance and try to forgive them then their karma
will have no hooks to sink into you and will return to them. So do not play on
their level. I suggest buying some redraksha. If you have a mailing address I
will send you some free. Reach me through Facebook when you're ready. Shiva
scares away all ghouls.
Jesus saves! Amen, brother!
Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love
--- On Fri, 4/24/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 12:06 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm...@... wrote: I dont know who you are that says you live in Brasil. However you just speak and obviously do not know. In Brasil most recently when they stopped the tax on banking accounts. They came up with a new rule. In the past if you own a company you could file your company tax info and the personal would be covered in the company info. Now they will not accept this and if you do not file personal tax reports they can block your cpf and give a fine. The new part was the fine. BRAZIL LAW REGARDING CUSTODY... In the majority of the cases 9 out of 10 the children stay with the mother. Even if the mother is involved in prostitution whic is legal in Brazil, in anything that does not present physical harm to the child. Brazil law for children is based on ECA estatuto criança e adolescentes which is past dated and is basically irrelevant to 2009 world law. ECA = best for children to be with family= if father rapes daughter the daughter should taken from the home and the family rehabilitated then returned to the home. When it comes to family and anything people oriented Brasil is behind the times. This is what my Brazilian wife who specializes in Brazilian family law has written in response: You said: In the past if you own a company you could file your company tax info and the personal would be covered in the company info. Best stated my accountants took care of these things so I did not. As an american with a company in Brazil and without permanent visa I declared exemption but could not declare exemption after 2004 but my accountants did the filings. In 2007 I believe the tax I am referring to is called cmpf a tax of 1% charged on movement of funds in banking accounts. Before they took this tax away you had to go to RF pay a fine of 4.50 R$ and then they would regulariza your cpf and there was no problem. In 2007 they not only charged the 4.50 but they also charged a fine to business owners who did not declare personal income of 160 Reais per year. The point is that we could not receive money in our names. That statement is not true. You always had to and still do have to file two income tax reports, one for the company and your own personal one because they are different entities, the company [pessoa juridica] and you [pessoa fisica]. I think the key word here is multa. The company has to declare its accounts and you have to declare your own personal financial earnings that you got from the company. The company has a tax number and you have a CPF. Those are two different numbers and require two separate filings. You said: BRAZIL LAW REGARDING CUSTODY... In the majority of the cases 9 out of 10 the children stay with the mother. Again, not true. The Brazilian law of custody is ruled by the Civil Code. The principal rule says the judge has to decide these kinds of issues in the best interests of the children. One is theoretical and the other is practical. I am speaking of the what happens not what is in theory. I have conversed with various lawyers here and all have said the same as I have stated. If you think you can make positive strides in changing the practice in Sorocaba family law then PLEASE I am open to hear you perspective. I believe there should be room for change. Fathers can keep the children if they prove the mother is immoral in front of the child or anything that can jeopardize the welfare of the child. Well imagine that you understand theory but practice may be totally different. Also what is considered jeopardy may be totally different depending on the judge.. From my point of view being near his grandmother might be considered jeopardy, but tell that to a judge. I may believe forcing an american child to live in Brasil is incorrect but that is my viewpoint... Brazilian law also allows the mother and the father to have dual custody of the child or single custody with visitation rights. Well here you are also correct but what I have as a problem is that my income has been blocked, so without conditions they say they will not doEven though I can show more than 500K Reais spent in taking care of my family from 2004 to 2008. You said: Even if the mother is involved in prostitution which is legal in Brazil, in anything that does not present physical harm to the child. Prostitution is NOT legal in Brazil. Theory and Practice...Prostitution is a very large industry in Brasil. A large portion of Brazilian tourism is based on Prostitution. They do not arrest a woman for prostitution in Brasil. They may arrest someone who is pimping but rarely do they arrest a woman
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love
thank you very much your words tell your story very well. --- On Fri, 4/24/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:14 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm...@... wrote: --- On Fri, 4/24/09, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 12:06 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I dont know who you are that says you live in Brasil. However you just speak and obviously do not know. In Brasil most recently when they stopped the tax on banking accounts. They came up with a new rule. In the past if you own a company you could file your company tax info and the personal would be covered in the company info. Now they will not accept this and if you do not file personal tax reports they can block your cpf and give a fine. The new part was the fine. BRAZIL LAW REGARDING CUSTODY... In the majority of the cases 9 out of 10 the children stay with the mother. Even if the mother is involved in prostitution whic is legal in Brazil, in anything that does not present physical harm to the child. Brazil law for children is based on ECA estatuto criança e adolescentes which is past dated and is basically irrelevant to 2009 world law. ECA = best for children to be with family= if father rapes daughter the daughter should taken from the home and the family rehabilitated then returned to the home. When it comes to family and anything people oriented Brasil is behind the times. This is what my Brazilian wife who specializes in Brazilian family law has written in response: You said: In the past if you own a company you could file your company tax info and the personal would be covered in the company info. Best stated my accountants took care of these things so I did not. As an american with a company in Brazil and without permanent visa I declared exemption but could not declare exemption after 2004 but my accountants did the filings. In 2007 I believe the tax I am referring to is called cmpf a tax of 1% charged on movement of funds in banking accounts. Before they took this tax away you had to go to RF pay a fine of 4.50 R$ and then they would regulariza your cpf and there was no problem. In 2007 they not only charged the 4.50 but they also charged a fine to business owners who did not declare personal income of 160 Reais per year. The point is that we could not receive money in our names. That statement is not true. You always had to and still do have to file two income tax reports, one for the company and your own personal one because they are different entities, the company [pessoa juridica] and you [pessoa fisica]. I think the key word here is multa. The company has to declare its accounts and you have to declare your own personal financial earnings that you got from the company. The company has a tax number and you have a CPF. Those are two different numbers and require two separate filings. You said: BRAZIL LAW REGARDING CUSTODY... In the majority of the cases 9 out of 10 the children stay with the mother. Again, not true. The Brazilian law of custody is ruled by the Civil Code. The principal rule says the judge has to decide these kinds of issues in the best interests of the children. One is theoretical and the other is practical. I am speaking of the what happens not what is in theory. I have conversed with various lawyers here and all have said the same as I have stated. If you think you can make positive strides in changing the practice in Sorocaba family law then PLEASE I am open to hear you perspective. I believe there should be room for change. Fathers can keep the children if they prove the mother is immoral in front of the child or anything that can jeopardize the welfare of the child. Well imagine that you understand theory but practice may be totally different. Also what is considered jeopardy may be totally different depending on the judge.. From my point of view being near his grandmother might be considered jeopardy, but tell that to a judge. I may believe forcing an american child to live in Brasil is incorrect but that is my viewpoint... Brazilian law also allows the mother and the father to have dual custody of the child or single custody with visitation rights. Well here you are also correct but what I have as a problem is that my income has been blocked, so without conditions they say they will not doEven though I can show more than 500K Reais spent in taking care of my family from 2004 to 2008. You said
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
Thanks Sal Yes I have an address I do not know it by heart I will send via facebook thanks --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 10:28 AM On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Kirk wrote: Do you still meditate? Your story sounds awful. Simple truth is if you meditate with no thought of vengeance and try to forgive them then their karma will have no hooks to sink into you and will return to them. So do not play on their level. I suggest buying some redraksha. If you have a mailing address I will send you some free. Reach me through Facebook when you're ready. Shiva scares away all ghouls. Jesus saves! Amen, brother! Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
meditate everyday it helps
--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote:
From: Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 10:53 AM
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Amen, Man!
- Original Message -
From: Sal Sunshine
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Kirk wrote:
Do you still meditate? Your story sounds awful. Simple truth is if you
meditate with no thought of vengeance and try to forgive them then their karma
will have no hooks to sink into you and will return to them. So do not play on
their level. I suggest buying some redraksha. If you have a mailing address I
will send you some free. Reach me through Facebook when you're ready. Shiva
scares away all ghouls.
Jesus saves! Amen, brother!
Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
thanks --- On Wed, 4/22/09, pranamoocher bh...@hotmail.com wrote: From: pranamoocher bh...@hotmail.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 8:02 PM You need help alright- help to stop posting insane messages and asking others to bail yourself out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm...@... wrote: Jai Guru Dev In case you have wondered where went Louis In 2004 I had a reconnect with a woman. I spoke to her by phone for a friend who found her on an internet dating site. I advised my friend that it was better that I not talk to this woman again, but as it was in the time of Carnival 2004 and everything closes in Brasil during Carnival, he insisted that I give her a call. I did. When he came to Brasil she was two months pregnant... Today after living together for 4 years I live in a town called Sorocaba where my son lives with his mother, her mother, his uncle, his wife and my son´s sister. The grandmother is a woman in her 60´s illiterate as far as education goes, yet very viscious as life goes. I louis thomas Mckenzie was not trained at MIU, UCSD or COLUMBIA or NYU or New Seminary in how to deal with a person like this. A mother pimp she lived off money given to her from three daughters that she assisted in becoming prostitutes. A woman who with her husband took all of their ten children out of school by the age of 10, or after the 4th grade. In Brasil they use all kinds of natural law manipulatives in order to effect the desired result. In 2007 Maria A was told that if I recieved an investment in my company in Brasil her daughter would go to jail. She was told this by a woman who channels gypsies and other devil spirits and is specialized in doing harm to people for money. They decided to do everything and anything they could to break up my family and make sure that I did not receive my funding. (This is no longer hypothesis it has been verified and is now fact) By the end of 2007 we could not receive any money via western union in our names in Brasil. From 2008 January to June we received a total of 1500 usd, compared to the year before in which we recieved 15000 in the same period. In July of 2008 we had to move to Sorocaba because we lost our apt in Sao Paulo. one week after arriving I was asked to please leave the apt of my mother in law because her daughter who paid her rent did not want me there. I took a hotel room. Since that day the strangeness just got stranger and stranger until today, I am an american with a brazilian born child who is bound by brazilian law which says that no matter how bad the living situation is the child belongs with the mother. The law says that even no matter what if the mother or father does not sign an agreement to allow it is not possible to leave the country with the child. So in order for me to come back to the US and get a job I would have to abandon my child. I have refused to do so. I have had things happen like hotels asking ne to leave after paying 11,000 reais = 5000 usd while trying to arrange a new credit card. The person who was willing to assist me was hit by a truck returning home to send the card info. I had to spend some time sleeping in a plaza. Between the financial crisis and other things my funds have been severly delayed. I am now in a situation where I live in a garage. Share a very small space with a nother guy, I sleep on the floor. Seems I have been unaable to recieve even 10 cents from the US lately. Recently it seems I may be getting closer to breaking this thing with this gypsy but I am still suffering. I know there are some people who do not like it when people write about personal situations but all I can say is that the guy who was on television regarding his 4 year old son I know that story because I am living it. I NEED HELP.. Louis JGD
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love
honestly I wish someone would bail me out but I am here because I love my son and I choose to fight for what I believe to be mine. So if there was a way to wave one´s hand and make this all go away yes PLEASE do. --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 8:21 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pranamoocher Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love I didn't get that he was asking anyone to bail him out. In fact he said he can't receive money from the US. He's just telling his story and asking for a little compassion and sympathy, which I feel for him. You need help alright- help to stop posting insane messages and asking others to bail yourself out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm...@... wrote: Jai Guru Dev In case you have wondered where went Louis In 2004 I had a reconnect with a woman. I spoke to her by phone for a friend who found her on an internet dating site. I advised my friend that it was better that I not talk to this woman again, but as it was in the time of Carnival 2004 and everything closes in Brasil during Carnival, he insisted that I give her a call. I did. When he came to Brasil she was two months pregnant... Today after living together for 4 years I live in a town called Sorocaba where my son lives with his mother, her mother, his uncle, his wife and my son´s sister. The grandmother is a woman in her 60´s illiterate as far as education goes, yet very viscious as life goes. I louis thomas Mckenzie was not trained at MIU, UCSD or COLUMBIA or NYU or New Seminary in how to deal with a person like this. A mother pimp she lived off money given to her from three daughters that she assisted in becoming prostitutes. A woman who with her husband took all of their ten children out of school by the age of 10, or after the 4th grade. In Brasil they use all kinds of natural law manipulatives in order to effect the desired result. In 2007 Maria A was told that if I recieved an investment in my company in Brasil her daughter would go to jail. She was told this by a woman who channels gypsies and other devil spirits and is specialized in doing harm to people for money. They decided to do everything and anything they could to break up my family and make sure that I did not receive my funding. (This is no longer hypothesis it has been verified and is now fact) By the end of 2007 we could not receive any money via western union in our names in Brasil. From 2008 January to June we received a total of 1500 usd, compared to the year before in which we recieved 15000 in the same period. In July of 2008 we had to move to Sorocaba because we lost our apt in Sao Paulo. one week after arriving I was asked to please leave the apt of my mother in law because her daughter who paid her rent did not want me there. I took a hotel room. Since that day the strangeness just got stranger and stranger until today, I am an american with a brazilian born child who is bound by brazilian law which says that no matter how bad the living situation is the child belongs with the mother. The law says that even no matter what if the mother or father does not sign an agreement to allow it is not possible to leave the country with the child. So in order for me to come back to the US and get a job I would have to abandon my child. I have refused to do so. I have had things happen like hotels asking ne to leave after paying 11,000 reais = 5000 usd while trying to arrange a new credit card. The person who was willing to assist me was hit by a truck returning home to send the card info. I had to spend some time sleeping in a plaza. Between the financial crisis and other things my funds have been severly delayed. I am now in a situation where I live in a garage. Share a very small space with a nother guy, I sleep on the floor. Seems I have been unaable to recieve even 10 cents from the US lately. Recently it seems I may be getting closer to breaking this thing with this gypsy but I am still suffering. I know there are some people who do not like it when people write about personal situations but all I can say is that the guy who was on television regarding his 4 year old son I know that story because I am living it. I NEED HELP.. Louis JGD
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN!
I blogged and pushed and fought in forums new paper blogs cnn fox you name it, here as well. And Of course I voted --- On Wed, 11/5/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 3:28 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WE DID IT GANG! We? What exactly did you do, Louis, 5,000 miles away? Did you campaign for him to get him non-votes from the non-U.S. citizens of Sao Paolo? More importantly, did you at least vote for him by absentee ballot? DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE JUST WANTED TO ASSIST WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN!
My friend Lane still thinks Obama is a marxist. Really I dont think she thinks that I believe she is terrified of an extremely powerful Blackman. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:11 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WE DID IT GANG! DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE JUST WANTED TO ASSIST WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN Oh yeah! I think one might say, that without Jews (financial stuff,science, music, etc.) and African-Americans (politics, military, sports, music, and stuff) USA would be quite a Mister/Mistress Nobody... ;D To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN!
I posted what she wrote on that issue. I was very surprised. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 3:20 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: My friend Lane still thinks Obama is a marxist. Really I dont think she thinks that I believe she is terrified of an extremely powerful Blackman. Obama isn't a Marxist. He's more like a Trotskyite. the other side of the coin: i heard a fat cat from the wall street journal this morning on the radio talking about how the democrats had somehow managed to get medicare in place in the 60's which was bankrupting the country. what is the solution? let all 40 million without health care die in the streets? these people sound like nazis to me- such hard hearts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] CNN projects Obama wins the presidency
WO HOO If the bell of invincibility was here I would ring it sooLOUD WOOO HOOO --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] CNN projects Obama wins the presidency To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:02 AM authfriend wrote: Just this minute, 11:00 p.m. NBC too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CNN projects Obama wins the presidency
We were on opposite sides of the same girl..but he always said hello I think --- On Wed, 11/5/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: CNN projects Obama wins the presidency To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:12 AM Hey Louis, Congrats ! You mentioned recently that Barack and you attended Columbia together. Are you tight with him ? -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WO HOO If the bell of invincibility was here I would ring it sooLOUD WOOO HOOO --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] CNN projects Obama wins the presidency To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:02 AM authfriend wrote: Just this minute, 11:00 p.m. NBC too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN!
WE DID IT GANG! DID NOT MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE JUST WANTED TO ASSIST WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YES WE CAN
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama relatives should do this on the White House lawn instead!
I said to someone the other day they will do anything and everything up to and not limited to a robotic phone call saying that FOUNDING FATHERS OF AMERICA DID NOT INTEND FOR A 3/5s HUMAN TO EVER BECOME PRESIDENT OF OUR COUNTRY VOTE MCCAIN PALIN BE AMERICAN BE PATRIOTIC VOTE FOR AMERICA --- On Mon, 11/3/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama relatives should do this on the White House lawn instead! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 2:28 AM Bull awaits Obama win in Kogelo village By NATION CorrespondentPosted Saturday, November 1 2008 at 19:35Senator Barrack Obama's relatives have congregated at Nyangoma Kogelo village and will remain together until after Tuesday's US presidential elections. They have set aside a bull to slaughter in celebration should the Illinois senator whose father was Kenyan win, according to family spokesperson Mr Malik Abongo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The case against Obama
Why do we think the surge worked? When what really worked was a mixture of things especially getting the various groups in Iraq to discuss their differences. Actual negotiation with potential dissidents as well as the strengthening of the Iraqi military and other peace keeping forces. The surge cost lots of money, they never discuss how many more American lives were lost in the surge, therefore how do we measure the success of the surge? --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] The case against Obama To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 7:50 PM On the most important issue he has confronted as a legislator, the surge of forces in Iraq, Senator Obama was a harsh critic. His opposition to President Bush's new strategy was wrong. Much worse is the fact that Obama continued to oppose the surge at every stage, even after it was obviously succeeding. To this day, even as he finally concedes the surge has succeeded beyond our wildest imagination, Obama insists his opposition to the surge was correct. Senator Obama's view is that a defeat in Iraq would somehow help our efforts in Afghanistan. Indeed, if Obama had had his way, all American combat troops would have been withdrawn from Iraq by March 2008, which would have led to civil war and genocide; an unprecedented victory for al-Qaeda and Islamic jihadists; and a boon to Iran. This fact is, by itself, a shattering indictment to Obama's judgement, and in the area that is the most important responsibility of a president: his duties as commander-in-chief. Read more: 'Viewpoint: The case against Obama' by Peter Wehner BBC News, October 31, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7700913.stm The sharp drop in American fatalities reflects the overall security improvements across the country following the Sunni revolt against al-Qaida and the rout suffered by Shiite extremists in fighting last spring in Basra and Baghdad. Read more: 'US deaths in Iraq plunge to wartime low' By Robert H. Reid Associated Press, October 31, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/68p39a To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] The case against Obama
Why do we think the surge worked? When what really worked was a mixture of things especially getting the various groups in Iraq to discuss their differences. Actual negotiation with potential dissidents as well as the strengthening of the Iraqi military and other peace keeping forces. The surge cost lots of money, they never discuss how many more American lives were lost in the surge, therefore how do we measure the success of the surge? --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] The case against Obama To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 7:50 PM On the most important issue he has confronted as a legislator, the surge of forces in Iraq, Senator Obama was a harsh critic. His opposition to President Bush's new strategy was wrong. Much worse is the fact that Obama continued to oppose the surge at every stage, even after it was obviously succeeding. To this day, even as he finally concedes the surge has succeeded beyond our wildest imagination, Obama insists his opposition to the surge was correct. Senator Obama's view is that a defeat in Iraq would somehow help our efforts in Afghanistan. Indeed, if Obama had had his way, all American combat troops would have been withdrawn from Iraq by March 2008, which would have led to civil war and genocide; an unprecedented victory for al-Qaeda and Islamic jihadists; and a boon to Iran. This fact is, by itself, a shattering indictment to Obama's judgement, and in the area that is the most important responsibility of a president: his duties as commander-in-chief. Read more: 'Viewpoint: The case against Obama' by Peter Wehner BBC News, October 31, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7700913.stm The sharp drop in American fatalities reflects the overall security improvements across the country following the Sunni revolt against al-Qaida and the rout suffered by Shiite extremists in fighting last spring in Basra and Baghdad. Read more: 'US deaths in Iraq plunge to wartime low' By Robert H. Reid Associated Press, October 31, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/68p39a To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] LANE's CREED A WHITE SENIOR TALKS ABOUT THE AMERICA SHE DREAMS OF AND WHY SHE WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA
AND THE AMERICA I LIVE IN IS NOT WHAT THE FOREFATHERS STRUCTURED, IT IS WHAT THE DAMNED LIBERALS AND SOCIALISTS (Democrats) and some Republicans HAVE MADE IT.. THEY, OUT OF GREED AND POWER MONGERING HAVE DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY AND THE FREEDOM TO LIVE AS MY ANCESTORS WHO FOUGHT FOR THAT FREEDOM DIED FOR. MARK MY WORDS... EVERYONE WILL GET TAXED. EVERYONE...THE LITTLE GUY WILL SUFFER BECAUSE THE EMPLOYERS WILL NOT HIRE. THEY WILL CUT BACK TO AVOID PAYING HIGHER TAX ON THE INCOME... THEY WILL ALSO TAKE THAT TAX HIKE AND PASS IT TO THE CONSUMER. I AM N O T ... NOT NOT A SOCIALIST AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT OWES ME A NICKLE. PEOPLE SHOULD WORK FOR THEIR MONEY... NOT EXPECT THE GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE IT FOR THEM. THIS SOCIETY IS LAZY.. TOO MUCH WELFARE, 40% OF THE COUNTRY DOES NOT PAY TAXES AND THE OTHER 60% WILL BE SUPPORTING THEM... THAT IS BULLSHIT. I DON'T OWE THE GUY DOWN THE STREET A LIVING..I DON'T BELIEVE I SHOULD HAVE TO PAY HIS MEDICAL BILLS. OR HIS TAXES, OR HIS LIVING OR HIS EXISTENCE OR ANYTHING FOR HIM. THAT SHOULD BE VOLUNTARY. NOT MANDATORY AND CERTAINLY NOT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DO FOR ME. ANY MONEY THEY GET THEIR HANDS ON IS GOING TO GO TO TRY AND SUPPORT AN IMPOSSIBLE $3 TRILLION DOLLAR SPENDING SPREE THAT OBAMA HAS PLANNED.. I WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THAT... NOT BY VOTING FOR HIM.. NOR PAYING FOR HIS CORRUPT STUPID IMPOSSIBLE PROGRAMS.. I WILL NOT GIVE A DIME OR ONE WORD OF SUPPORT TOWARD A SYSTEM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL JUST LIKE HOOVER, FDR, ETC... NO THANKS...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jeru Hall Convicted
There were supposed to be other reasons for the problems. I had been told that they had to work through another bank and that bank went under and so did their money --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jeru Hall Convicted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:47 AM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nelson Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jeru Hall Convicted --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=19407 ++ Jeru of Ohio? Jeru of Iowa has a house in my subdivision and,it was rumored that he was behind on the payments. If there was all that money I would have thought it would have been paid off long ago. odd N. Ohio is a typo. It’s Jeru of Fairfield, Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'McCain Campaign= We will win by fear..'
If they incite people to begin taking potshots at Obama maybe they are stupid enough to believe that they will actually have success and then McCain will win. I believe that would guarantee him instant loss. he is already losing. Yet when you have people in audiences yelling kill him and Palin thinks she is doing a good job that is when we know WE are in trouble. People would actually think that persons of such intellectual stature would actually be voted even to run for any political office. This is insane. Such for Mavericks. --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'McCain Campaign= We will win by fear..' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 7:40 AM This is the whole premise of the McCain campaign, Because the Republican party of Reagan, is finally coming to a grand end. You saw the end of it yesterday, when McCain defended Senator Obama. He still has a soul. I'm sorry, you can't say the same for Sarah Palin, nor the rest of this crezy crew... Stirring up the depths of the dark side... For what purpose? R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alaskan legislature finds Palin abused powers
SO WHAT! It means nothing it this AMERICA as long as it was not Obama doing it. She should be forced tor resign from the candidacy but they have no intention of doing so. Just think there are people who will vote for McCain Palin regardless. SHe rings their bell. Thank God they are at least exposing their belief systems. --- On Fri, 10/10/08, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alaskan legislature finds Palin abused powers To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:35 PM http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/us/politics/11trooper.html Gov. Sarah Palin abused the powers of her office by pressuring subordinates to get her former brother-in-law, a state trooper, fired, a investigation by the Alaska Legislature has concluded. Palins Repeatedly Pressed Case Against Trooper (October 10, 2008) Text of Report (pdf) A report on the bipartisan inquiry that was released Friday by lawmakers in Anchorage, concluded, however, that she was within her right to dismiss her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, the trooper's boss. The public portion of the report concluded that Ms. Palin violated the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act by allowing pressure to be exerted to get Trooper Michael Wooten, her former brother-in-law, dismissed. In the 263 pages that were released, the independent investigator, Stephen E. Branchflower, a former Anchorage prosecutor, said that Ms. Palin wrongfully allowed her husband, Todd, to use state resources as part of the effort to have Trooper Wooten dismissed. The report says she knowingly permitted Todd Palin to use the governor's office and the resources of the governor's office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired. Further, it says, she knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda. Mr. Branchflower based his finding of abuse of power on Alaska's Executive Branch Ethics Act, which was established to discourage executive branch employees from acting upon personal interest in the performance of their public responsibilities and to avoid conflicts of interest in the performance of duty, the report says. But the document concludes that Ms. Palin both acted upon her public interest in seeking the firing of Trooper Wooten and created a conflict of interest by forcing subordinate employees to choose between doing her bidding and or not. But the report concluded that Governor Palin's firing of Commissioner Walt Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads. It cites the Alaska Constitution, which says the governor may discharge department heads without cause and that department heads serve at the pleasure of the governor. In light of this constitutional and statutory authority, it is clear that Governor Palin could fire Commissioner Walt Monegan at will, for almost any reason, or no reason at all. The report states that, while there is no doubt that Mr. Monegan's failure to fire Trooper Wooten was a substantial factor in his own firing, the evidence suggest it was not the sole reason.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Archer's Birthday
happy birthday Rick --- On Sat, 10/11/08, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Archer's Birthday To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 2:39 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Rick, Had to stop by and say how nice it is to have your personality in the world. I have come to see you as a very wise person. All hail Rick Archer! Edg We congratulate on your birthday for creating this forum which is attracting an eclectic and diverse commentators. Jai Guru Dev! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] R.I.P. Democrats
well well imagine that hate and racism began with Rev. Wright. OHHH BOY! --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] R.I.P. Democrats To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:47 AM I always look forward to raunchydog's insightful posts. I guess Obama really is just a lazy nigger. Boy, did he fool us. He seems so different, articulate, engaging, energetic, very intelligent. But, I must be wrong. Can't take the ghetto out of the brother, I guess. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] R.I.P. Democrats To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:26 AM Obama will win and we can officially bury the Democratic Party with a R.I.P headstone, The cause of death was suicide. The Democratic Party will get what it deserves for forcing a vain empty suited sock puppet on us. Soon he will have unprecedented power over the quality of our lives in the midst of the worst economic climate in our nation's history. The more qualified candidate in the tradition of FDR, Hillary, who has presented specific remedies to get us out of this mess, as well as campaign for this ingrate, remains marginalized by her party. Since Obama's ego is too weak to allow her to look better than him, he'll just quietly co-opt her ideas and adapt them to gratify his corporate masters.
Re: [FairfieldLife] It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
WOO HOO! This is very well stated. I deal with older white people everyday. In my business I have invested what I consider to be a large amount of money. My money(the money I was able to raise and invest) allowed for things to able to be done, in order to fund various projects. Yet there are people who feel that at 51 I am a good boy and they have the right to take my funds because I am too ___ to know what to do with them. Also I would not be getting anything if it had not been for them. Because BOYs dont have these opportunities without good white uncles. I was ok with it till the guy yelled at me on the phone in a way that let me understand that he really believed that shit. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:59 AM ...and with exactly the same tendency to wear confirmation-bias-colored glasses: Cindy McCain said today that she expects her husband to clear the record at tonight's debate and let America know where he truly stands. McCain, who stopped to visit a half-dozen children at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt today, said the presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has waged the dirtiest campaign in American history, and her husband Sen. John McCain will use tonight's debate to correct the distortions. Well, from where I sit, McCain not only did nothing to correct the distortions, he spoke the single phrase that will be remembered from the debate, and in history about the campaign, That one, used to refer to Obama. I'm reminded of my next-door neighbor growing up in Georgia, who had a separate bathroom for her two black maids because (exact quote), I will never sit on the same toilet seat that has been used by a nigger. The two maids had worked for her for several years, but this woman refused to ever learn their names. When she needed to address them directly, it was always Hey, you! and when she needed to tell her other equally-bigoted neighbors which one was worse (which was often), she literally referred to them as This one and That one. No shit. On the other hand, credit John McCain for adding a new euphemism for nigger to the English language. He couldn't have damaged his campaign more if he had used the real word. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] CNN says Obama lying about Ayers
You know this is a very stupid thing from McCain, I watched the AC 360 where they said that Obama lied. However they also said that when the Weathermen were doing their attacks Obama was 8 years old. Ayers was never convicted and is a professor and highly esteemed member of Chicago society. So why should Obama be any different than the University of Illinois? --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] CNN says Obama lying about Ayers To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 4:02 PM http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/cnn-obamas-lying-about-william-ayers/ CNN: Obama’s lying about William AyersPOSTED AT 7:38 AM ON OCTOBER 7, 2008 BY ED MORRISSEY You’ll want to double-check the logo at the bottom left corner during this report. It really is CNN and Anderson Cooper fact-checking Barack Obama’s claims to have barely known William Ayers — and calling it dishonest. Stanley Kurtz even gets to make an appearance on a network other than Fox for this report (via Dirty Harry’s Place):Drew Griffin runs down most of the salient points raised by people like Kurtz, David Freddoso, Jerome Corsi, and others. Obama’s admission in a debate that he briefly served on “a board” with Ayers with little contact gets shot down. CNN followed up on Kurtz’ work with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and debunks that notion. They also — amazingly — report on the nature of the grants made by the CAC while Obama ran it to Ayers’ favored schools with radical agendas.Griffin also tells a somewhat nonplussed Cooper that Obama has lied about his “coming out party” at the home of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn in 1995. Obama has said that Alice Palmer arranged the fundraiser and the venue, but Griffin spoke to two people who attended the event, who claim Obama lied. Palmer had nothing to do with that event outside of being invited to it. Obama and Ayers planned the event themselves.Obama has lied repeatedly about his relationship with the unrepentant domestic terrorist. He spent years working for Ayers, promoting Ayers’ causes. Even CNN won’t buy the Obama line any longer. Expect John McCain to raise this point tonight in the debate.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim
Recently there was a show on television where the mother did not want anything to do with her child because she was forced to keep the child after she had been raped by a family member. --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:10 PM John posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs A person is either for abortion or against. There is no middle ground. If you are against abortion and pro life then to allow abortion for rape is still killing a person. There is no way to get out of this dilemma. Pro life says, every conception must go to term and deliver, no exceptions. Otherwise it is not about pro-life or choice. It is just a matter of drawing a line in the sand. - David http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thankyou Sarah
There are afew people who still look for this kind of BS. Especially knowing that McCain has nothing else to throw. --- On Sun, 10/5/08, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Thankyou Sarah To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:49 PM She just sunk the McCain campaign in one shot. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Villareal has created a unique YouTube with links http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 in the video to other videos that back up Gov. Palin's remarks about Obama's proven, long close association with Bill Ayers Sarah Palin hits Obama for palling around with terrorists -- VP nominee attacks Obama for his long association with Weather Underground figure William Ayers http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 Below is a link to the remarks made yesterday by Sarah Palin which connected Barack Obama with Obama's longtime friend and mentor Bill Ayers. Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who was involved with the seditionist Weather Underground organization that bombed both the Pentagon and the US Capitol. http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 What makes my version of this footage both a must-see and a very valuable resource going forward is that I have inserted 5 video link annotations into the production itself and I have put 19 links into the video description section. These links provide comprehensive, detailed visual and written evidence of the longstanding and intimate relationship between Senator Obama and radical anti-American Bill Ayers. Please take a look at the video when you get the chance. Favorite it and email it to those that you know so in the days to come all will have a one-stop location to answer the lies and half-truths coming out of the Obama campaign and its media arms as they try to innoculate Obama against his dangerous, extremist associates. These long-term mentors and friends of the Illinois pol expose Obama's stunning lack of judgment, his willingness to become close with those who hate our great republic and Obama's own nearly-unfathomable radicalism. Amidst two wars and the constant threat of a second 9/11, America's electorate deserves to know exactly what Barack Obama and his dangerous associates are all about as it prepares to vote in one of the most important elections in our country's history. Visit Paul's YouTube channel, http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 full of must-see informative videos. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: YouTube http://tinyurl.com/4emahm Despite the NYT's whitewash, Sarah Palin Hits Obama on Bill Ayers Relationship By SusanUnPC Remember this? Do you remember Barack's snide line about Hillary Clinton? Who does she think she is? Annie Oakley? Well, Barack. Here's another tough woman comin' at you. This Annie Oakley is sharp too, and she's taken aim at your long, close relationship with terrorist William Ayers that you've tried to conceal because, among many terrorist acts, he helped bomb the Pentagon. Sarah's job has become more difficult since the New York Times abetted your concealment with what Stanley Kurtz calls its irresponsible journalism in today's whitewash story. (Kurtz also refers to the exceptional research by Steve Diamond whose investigative stories are published here regularly.) Of course, at No Quarter, our readers already KNOW a great deal about Barack Obama's extensive ties to Bill Ayers. Read more http://tinyurl.com/4g468j --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Villareal has created a unique YouTube with links http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 in the video to other videos that back up Gov. Palin's remarks about Obama's proven, long close association with Bill Ayers Sarah Palin hits Obama for palling around with terrorists -- VP nominee attacks Obama for his long association with Weather Underground figure William Ayers http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 Below is a link to the remarks made yesterday by Sarah Palin which connected Barack Obama with Obama's longtime friend and mentor Bill Ayers. Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who was involved with the seditionist Weather Underground organization that bombed both the Pentagon and the US Capitol. http://tinyurl.com/4q9279 What makes my version of this footage both a must-see and a very valuable resource going forward is that I have inserted 5 video link annotations into the production itself and I have put 19 links into the video description section. These links provide comprehensive, detailed visual and written evidence of the longstanding and intimate relationship between Senator Obama and radical anti-American Bill Ayers. Please take a look at the video when you get the chance. Favorite it and email it to those that you know so in the days to
Re: [FairfieldLife] House passes bailout
I hope this is not too little too late. I believe they should have done this last year it would have saved a lot of problems especially a lot of mortgages. Yet they passed it this year maybe it will save the current situation. Having been affected by the world banking situation since 2001. I have seen the banking condition deteriorate more and more each year. From immediately after 9/11 and the introduction of the patriot act till last week when banks around the world stopped releasing any funds accept small deposits for fear of eminent danger. The other interesting thing is that there is strong connection between the savings and loan scandals of the 80's and this year's 2008 catastraphe; McCain was involved with the banking problems of the 80s and he is involved this year as well. Only 1987 he was first term Senator this time he is running for PresidentCoincidence... --- On Fri, 10/3/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] House passes bailout To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 3:02 PM After a week of wrangling, lawmakers give final approval to historic $700 billion bailout NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The House on Friday passed a far-reaching and historic plan to bail out the nation's financial system. The vote for passage of the Senate-amended bill - 263 to 171 - was the result of strong lobbying on the part of the White House and other supporters of the bill all week, following the House defeat of a similar measure on Monday - a defeat that shocked the markets and congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle. I applaud the action taken by the Congress, said Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. The legislation is a critical step toward stabilizing our financial markets and ensuring an uninterrupted flow of credit to households and businesses. According to preliminary numbers, 172 Democrats voted in favor of the bill while 62 opposed it; and 91 Republicans voted for it and 108 voted against it. ~~Full article: http://tinyurl.com/46ge89 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: was:.... Divine; now: Polls ...
I have a friend who says she is not racist and she will never vote for that Muslim jungle bunny who's great grand father was a muslim and he is soulmates with Odinga so instead she will vote for Barr. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: was: Divine; now: Polls ... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:26 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: ...the need to point out that I had engaged in satire was in a follow-up, not the original post. Like you didn't think I knew that? Your outrage and passion to allege deficiencies in my character are consuming your reading skills, Tom. So you actually *do* have a sense of humor! That was the funniest thing you have written. Congrats!! You have a big problem that I predicted at the end of last Winter that a McCain / Hillary ticket would occur. I was wrong. and because they are not running together now, neither McCain nor HIllary will ever win the Presidency. I have no problem with your making a prediction. I do have a problem reading posts that indicate you cling to holding it when folks other than I point out how howlingly incorrect it is. I commend you for admitting error. I agree that neither McCain nor Hillary are ever likely to occupy the White House. I find it impossible to agree with your logic linking McCain's failure to do so being the result of not picking Hillary. IMHO she would never in a million years have accepted that position should she have been offered. We both know proving the negative is impossible. I'd hate to think that being so desperate to finally be correct that you were compelled to make predictions that can never be disproved. Only a person that just can't shut his big fat yapper would do such a thing. That couldn't be you. Lou whatshisnamethebigvaginaguy maybe, but not you. Tom, I am annoyed by your continued slamming. Please stop it - you're becoming a troll. I'm not responsible for the psychic pain you're experiencing as the Hillary-won't-be-President lament echoes between your ears, no matter how inaccurate my prediction about a McCain / Hillary ticket. -Mainstream To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: House passes bailout
Until last week McCain was still espousing deregulation. Perhaps two weeks ago he changed to regulating wall street and the banking industry. A savings and loan is a bank isn't it? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not the cause of the current problems. There is much more to the current banking disaster than they are explaining. One big reason is because the banking industry is one of the most secret industries there is. So the various types of trading that all banks do have caused much of the problem. In one night they can take 700B and make a minimum of 1.4 T, and this has been considered good banking bizz. Problem is that lately in the last 20 or 30 years much of the trading has been done with worthless paper. Which is not a problem as long as no one drops the ball, but once the ball drops once it can be like dominoes. This can be seen with several large European banks that fell one in the 90's and several recent. Also one story of the kinds of problems can be seen with BNP when the trader was trading large amounts based upon computer numbers. So in the US we look for scapegoat s in the same way that BNP used this trader as a scape goat. I believe he was doing as instructed. Because fake numbers in the system the selling and or leasing of non cash backed bank instruments are big parts of the european bank trade. Yet as I said once one thing falls the whole things comes apart. THE WHOLE BANKING SYSTEM IS BASED ON COMPUTER NUMBERS NOT GOLD NOT CASH JUST NUMBERS. It is possible to pledge money and that money be used to support trading but the money never leaves your account. It was never really in your account but it was posted as part of you balance therefore it is used various times without ever really being in your account. Bingo when the bluff is called you have to pay up. Yet trillions have been made from this business. This is what came after junk bonds keating and McCain were involved in the junk bond business. Keating went to jail McCain and John Glenn used war hero to stay out of jail. Barack Obama was too young to be involved with any of that. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: House passes bailout To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:05 PM Louis McKenzie wrote: McCain was involved with the banking problems of the 80s and he is involved this year as well. Savings Loan, Louis, not banking, but whatever, just remember this one single name and acronym: Obama and ACORN. Senator Obama took more money from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac than anyone but the chairman of the committee they answer to, and he put Fannie Mae's CEO, who helped create this problem, in charge of finding his Vice President. That's not change, that's what's broken in Washington. - John McCain The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences. Read more: Keating Five: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: House passes bailout
other resources for Keating 5 http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=WLh8eF7PJ0Yfeature=related I dont know about McCain. Between Bush and McCain I like Bush better. You know why? Bush is nuts but he stands for something. He is willing to stand up to anyone for what he believes. A few weeks ago I was sent a link to someone telling the truth about Vietnam and in that story John McCain was more like a trader than a hero. If you watch the way he flips on just about everything he says it is hard to see that guy as this great war hero.. like Sarah Palin actually she reminds me of some friends I had at MIU. She is just in a game she has no idea of how to play. McCain and company put her in the game to save his ass cant --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: House passes bailout To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:05 PM Louis McKenzie wrote: McCain was involved with the banking problems of the 80s and he is involved this year as well. Savings Loan, Louis, not banking, but whatever, just remember this one single name and acronym: Obama and ACORN. Senator Obama took more money from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac than anyone but the chairman of the committee they answer to, and he put Fannie Mae's CEO, who helped create this problem, in charge of finding his Vice President. That's not change, that's what's broken in Washington. - John McCain The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences. Read more: Keating Five: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God this is Painful!
There is no comparison between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin... Really there is no comparison between John McCain and Barack Obama. It is like comparing Keith Wallace or David Orme Johnson to a high school biology teacher. Sarah is a good person. She has a lot of human stuff going on but thats ok everyone does. Yet would I want her to represent me as my president ABSOLUTELY NOT.. Would I want John McCain to represent me as my President NO. because he does not know how to represent any perspective other than the american agenda. In todays global world we need more than that. We need people who know how to convesre in other languages, who understand the wordl banking system and understand what just happened better than McCain, although as I said he was involved in the first big scandal which also included wall street. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God this is Painful! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:42 PM m2smart4u2000 wrote: Sarah Palin Serial Winker It is hard for liberals to be objective, honest and rational. If they were, they would admit that Palin is better qualified than Barak Obama to be President of the U.S. She did a fine job against a seasoned opponent. Despite the negative spin, she is a capable, executive officer with more experience than Barak Obama. Yes, his name is Barak Obama. Has anyone mentioned ACORN and ACORN Housing lately? The nuts are about to drop on Obama! DRUDGE REPORT: WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE? BIDEN 143,360 PALIN 351,930 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'McCain/Palin- Change Guaranteed!'
I think it will be worst than bush Cheney I think it is going to be Palin McCain without McCain's approval so McCain will have a big problem in his second in command.. --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'McCain/Palin- Change Guaranteed!' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:22 AM This is really funny one... The only change these two can or will offer, Is in name only. Instead of Bush/Cheney, the office desk could read, McCain/Palin... That's about the only change, we could see with these two bobsy twins... The policies will be the same or worse... Their potential to create even more chaos is what is really...Scarey!(Loose Change- Buddy can you spare a dime?) Robert Gimbel Madison, Wisconsin
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'McCain/Palin- Change Guaranteed!'
I think it will be worst than bush Cheney I think it is going to be Palin McCain without McCain's approval so McCain will have a big problem in his second in command.At least Bush appeared to be in some sort of control???. --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'McCain/Palin- Change Guaranteed!' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:22 AM This is really funny one... The only change these two can or will offer, Is in name only. Instead of Bush/Cheney, the office desk could read, McCain/Palin... That's about the only change, we could see with these two bobsy twins... The policies will be the same or worse... Their potential to create even more chaos is what is really...Scarey!(Loose Change- Buddy can you spare a dime?) Robert Gimbel Madison, Wisconsin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless
I was talking to President Obama on the phone the other day and he said that one of his most favorable people in the campaigne was a guy from Iowa by the name of Dennis. --- On Sat, 9/27/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 2:52 PM Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more than concerned about Palin. The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both are being described as disastrous. One senior McCain aide was quoted as saying, What are we going to do? The McCain people want to move this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never. People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is clueless. ~~ Ed Schultz http://www.bigeddieradio.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Canada
This gentleman is going from Atlanta I will give him your number in the case he gets close to buffalo he will call ok? --- On Thu, 9/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Canada To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 9:32 AM Going to Canada from wher in wher to where in Canada I go daily from Buffalo NY to Ont Welland Ont. 716-688-7686 In a message dated 9/17/2008 9:53:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there anyone looking to go to Canada over the next couple of days via Car expenses covered? Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Canadawhere 2 Where thanks now we enjoy a starting place
??? I Wrote Atlanta didn't you see. He started from Florida went to Atlanta today. He will go to Ottowa and then to Toranto --- On Thu, 9/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Canadawhere 2 Where thanks now we enjoy a starting place To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 2:52 PM The gentleman gives no place of leaving nor going HA! HA! HO! Perhaps does NOT sleep with his head to the east HA! HA! HO! Is this gentleman a citizen of what county have papers for such does he internd to re enter the States? In a message dated 9/18/2008 11:02:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This gentleman is going from Atlanta I will give him your number in the case he gets close to buffalo he will call ok? --- On Thu, 9/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Canada To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 9:32 AM Going to Canada from where in where to where in Canada I go daily from Buffalo NY to Ont Welland Ont. 716-688-7686 In a message dated 9/17/2008 9:53:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there anyone looking to go to Canada over the next couple of days via Car expenses covered? Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hemming and hawing, fumbling and mumbling...
Well Shemp I agree and disagree. He has to be very careful of what he says because one word can get so confused that he has to actually think about what he says or else he willbecome like Palin and McCain. What is wierd is that many people are so hungry for a white alternative they will change coat on Obama even though the woman is clearly the destruction of everything that makes us Americans. Freedom of choice, freedom of speech, freedom of education.. Seperation of church and government. The right of sexual preference, when they put in those supreme court judges so manay people will cry including all of the stupid women who think she is the way to go. McCain Palin are like lining up to take a shower only to find you are in a big furnace From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hemming and hawing, fumbling and mumbling... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 2:34 PM Did anyone catch George Stephanopoulos' interview of Barack Obama on ABC's This Week on Sunday morning? If you did, you'd know that his speech was very errative and choppy. I got the distinct impression that for every word that comes out of his mouth, his mind is working like a computer analyzing every utterance for any possible ramifications that a slipped word, phrase, or sentence could cause him. Any hint of spontaneity was absent. In this sense, he reminded me of that Elizabeth character on The View where those 4 or 5 yentas gab about all things female on weekday mornings. What distinguishes Elizabeth from all the other participants is that she is too much in her head, so to speak. I always feel that she doesn't truly believe what she is saying but says what she thinks her position should be according to party line. When she was on leave while pregnant, I enjoyed the show so much more because everyone (especially that Sherry character) were so spontaneous and relaxed. Elizabeth's return sucked all the air out of that easy atmosphere and they've all been infected by her. Barack is afraid to say boo! lest he stumble into yet another guns and religion comment or a I don't want to punish my daughter with a baby abortion comment. Pundits say he is lost without a prepared speech and a teleprompter and, sadly, that seems to be the case. Barack is losing this election because he has stopped doing what got him all the support in the first place which is SPEAKING FROM THE HEART. He's too calculated now. He's sold his soul to the behind- the-scenes movers-and shakers that want him to nuance every utterance so that it can't be exploited on youtube or 1 527 ad. Non-spontaneity is a killer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [FairfieldLife] Hemming and hawing, fumbling and mumbling...
I used to have a friend at MIU he would say lie and I will kick your ass. People used to be so afraid to talk in his pressence that when they did they thought very carefully about anything they said. --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Hemming and hawing, fumbling and mumbling... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 2:41 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hemming and hawing, fumbling and mumbling... Did anyone catch George Stephanopoulos' interview of Barack Obama on ABC's This Week on Sunday morning? I did. Keith Olbermann interviewed him last night too and the 2nd part is on tonight’s Countdown. Barack is losing this election because he has stopped doing what got him all the support in the first place which is SPEAKING FROM THE HEART. He's too calculated now. He's sold his soul to the behind- the-scenes movers-and shakers that want him to nuance every utterance so that it can't be exploited on youtube or 1 527 ad. Non-spontaneity is a killer. I think you have a point. Obama once said that his wife sometimes reminds him to get out of his head and speak from his heart. He may need reminding again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: LOOK at the possible Vice Pres are these the bikini pics
I have never posted nude pics for nude pics sake. I have posted pictures of thenext vp of the united states if we are not careful maybe what this means is it is time for the REDneck to rule as if they did not with Bush.if feminist in this country would vote for palin this is sick. There is conjecture that the pics are not her but the other one with her in the military gear impersonating a US Military personell is --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: LOOK at the possible Vice Pres are these the bikini pics To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 12:41 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: In my capacity as a FFL moderator, I kindly request that you not post images that are of an adult nature to FFL. Thank you. Because there are few adults here? I resemble that remark. Maybe if he had sent one of his illiterate screeds along with the Photoshopped pictures it would meet the Supreme Court's three tiered test using community standards. Pretty knuckle-headed move actually. It must be a pain in the butt having to tell people not to do things that would get yas moved into Yahoo's adult section. I, for one, admire the job done by the moderators on FFL. They hold a light hand and let the conversations fly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: LOOK at the possible Vice Pres are these the bikini pics
Excuse me. How many times have you heard me respond to anyone in that way? You dont speak to me like that. EVER! To me you saying that to me is worst that any picture anyone could post. The moderators who have been in this group as long as I have have I would say never heard me speak to anyone in that way. I have been meditating 35 years, I have been involved with the movement 35 years I have been one of the first MIU students. So where you get off telling to shut the fuk up, I think you are barking up the wrong tree, I dont know you.. --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: LOOK at the possible Vice Pres are these the bikini pics To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:11 PM Shut the fuk up, Louis. Louis McKenzie wrote: I have never posted nude pics for nude pics sake. I have posted pictures of thenext vp of the united states if we are not careful maybe what this means is it is time for the REDneck to rule as if they did not with Bush.if feminist in this country would vote for palin this is sick. There is conjecture that the pics are not her but the other one with her in the military gear impersonating a US Military personell is In my capacity as a FFL moderator, I kindly request that you not post images that are of an adult nature to FFL. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah is oh so dumb . . .
We are thinking the wrong way. Sara is smart enough to play to the right people and as we talk about how dumb she is she keeps MOVIN ON UP! to the White House. McCain did not want to pick her, he wanted to pick Lieberman he was told to pick her. She did not get vetted because the people who controlled last nights show did not want her vetted. So how dumb is she If we dont watchout she will be president, and then she will do as instructed and we will be living in a police state. No more meditation, no more freedom of choice in the books we read and if you say you are anything other than Christian they will have a new address for you. WHO IS DUMB? AIP COORS KLAN NAZI PARTY SOUTHERN PARTY She has some powerful supporters --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah is oh so dumb . . . To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 11:44 AM On Sep 5, 2008, at 8:51 AM, feste37 wrote: Street smarts don't make up for a lack of knowledge. Sarah is a no-nothing. I imagine that the nice lady who rang up my groceries in Hy-Vee yesterday knows as much about Iraq as sweet and sassy Sarah does. I'm serious. Of course now she will receive some coaching and will learn to recite the phrases her handlers repeat to her, like a bright 5th grader. And just wait for the press to bellow about how she'swon the debate with Biden. But that's no substitute for real knowledge, which takes years to acquire. Sarah has up to this point shown zero interest in foreign affairs, which of course is what one would expect from a self-described hockey mom. (What on earth IS a hockey mom, by the way?) I'm still trying to figure out what a soccer mom is,but I guess that's last years phrase. I think the Democrats should stick to their guns and keep repeating that this woman is NOT QUALIFIED for the office she seeks. They won't, you be fairly sure. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tribute to Sarah Palin
How nice --- On Thu, 9/4/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tribute to Sarah Palin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:08 AM http://tinyurl.com/59pmje To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Goobernator: The Sarah Palin Chroncles
Well now she has started the war, lets see where it takes her. There is a saying; People who live in glass houses should not throw stones Sara Palin in her youthful energetic pep rally challenged the press as well as the dems and barack and joe Biden she has set the scene for a real gang bang. McCain doesn't even have the nerve to go that far. Oh BOY! --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Goobernator: The Sarah Palin Chroncles To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:35 AM On Sep 4, 2008, at 8:25 AM, feste37 wrote: I find the idea that this country should be run by an average American quite amazing. Surely there is no other country in which citizens think like this about their leaders? I would prefer America to be run by people who are outstanding, brilliant, real leaders. And that's certainly not the average American. Why are so many Americans so hostile to intelligence and education? I don't think average means average intelligence or education, instead it means someone from the middle class or someone not of privileged status: prep school boys whose daddy got them into an Ivy league school. It could be a farmer who knows how to run a farm or a small business owner. It could be a college professor like our one senator from Maine. It could be an engineer or a physician. Let's face it, any of these people can create a cabinet and a gaggle of advisors, the advisors and cabinet being the creme de la creme of each area, providing expert advice as needed. Last night, according to the New York Times, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska introduced herself to America before a roaring crowd at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night as `just your average hockey mom' who was as qualified as the Democratic nominee, Senator Barack Obama, to be president of the United States. So your average hockey mom is qualified to be in charge of the government of the United States of America? Just where did this idea come from? I find it bizarre. Well she's playing it as if she were an average hockey mom. She's clearly not.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...a real gang bang?
Anyway.. The real deal is AIP is a racist segregationist organization. They believe in the sovereignty of their state and that the conservative way is right. If you go to their website you will find links to such groups as the southern party which believe in the sovereignty of 16 confederate states. So what is really going on? The conservative Reich is taking advantage of American lack of intelligence again. They are not so interested in McCain they are interested in Palin with her along with McCain they will be insured to get the supreme courts they want as well as have someone who has very little inter racial expereince at all. The state of Alaska has nearly 670,000 residents. Of that 3% is African American 3500 are Jewish Residents, no latinos, the native Alaskans hate her because she has goen as far as taking their lands away to be used for drilling. Also the national monuments she wants to take fro drilling. Bottom line her husband is listed as a member of the AIP for 10 years, he pastor is also, she was listed but they erased it. So guys we must not let her and Mccain win.. --- On Thu, 9/4/08, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...a real gang bang? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 5:31 PM This is because we have not yet achieved the kind of high evolutionary level that you enjoy, Richard. When we see a woman, whether in the flesh or on TV, our first thought, whether conscious or not, is Do I want to have sex with her? Since with Governor Palin, the answer to this question is obviously yes, this colors all our responses to any issue concerning her. Perhaps you could offer us a good Texan recipe for rising above these basic animal instincts? God knows, I've tried, but darn it, I always fail! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis McKenzie wrote: ...she has set the scene for a real gang bang. Why does it always come back to sexism with you guys, even when you're talking about politics? Why do you insist on turning every conversation into an excuse for more thrusting? After calling all your sisters whores and insinuating that Obama is a bastard, now you want to rape the Governor of Alaska? Maybe you should be seeing Doctor Peter, Louis, or take some 'salt-peter'. You'll need a lot of Viagra too, if you want to take on Sarah Barracuda. This is just outrageous! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Just in case you did not read the gb post
Anyway.. The real deal is AIP is a racist segregationist organization. They believe in the sovereignty of their state and that the conservative way is right. If you go to their website you will find links to such groups as the southern party which believe in the sovereignty of 16 confederate states. So what is really going on? The conservative Reich is taking advantage of American lack of intelligence again. They are not so interested in McCain they are interested in Palin with her along with McCain they will be insured to get the supreme courts they want as well as have someone who has very little inter racial expereince at all. The state of Alaska has nearly 670,000 residents. Of that 3% is African American 3500 are Jewish Residents, no latinos, the native Alaskans hate her because she has goen as far as taking their lands away to be used for drilling. Also the national monuments she wants to take fro drilling. Bottom line her husband is listed as a member of the AIP for 10 years, he pastor is also, she was listed but they erased it. So guys we must not let her and Mccain win..
[FairfieldLife] IN SEARCH OF A NEW CONFEDERACY
IN SEARCH OF A NEW CONFEDERACY Yesterday Governor Sara Palin gave the world a speech. A speech in which she spoke of many things, she spoke of her time in the city council of the Alaskan city of Wasilla. She spoke of Senator Barack Obama’s time as a community organizer and proclaimed what she did as mayor of Wasilla was equal to if not greater than being a community organizer in the city of Chicago. The population of Wasilla is approximately 7000, the population of Chicago 2,833,321 the ethnicity breakdown of Chicago is 42% White, 36.8% Black, 26% Latino, 4.3% Asian, 2.9% mixed, .4% Native American, 13.6% Other. The ethnicity breakdown of Wasilla 88.46% White, .59% African American, 5.25% Native American, 1.32% Asian, .13% Pacific Islander, 1.32% other. There is no comparison between being a mayor of a population of less than 10,000 people to being a community organizer in a city of more than 2,000,000. The total population of Alaska is less than 700,000; where as the total population of Illinois is more than 12,000,000. There is NO COMPARISON. This brings me to the question of; Why is it that the Republican Party and the Right Wing seem to believe that Americans are going to be continuously stupid enough to believe whatever they choose to tell us? Sara Palin has no experience in American Government. Why? Because America is a mixture, of various races, with representation of these groups in local, state and national government therefore an experienced politician in America has at least some interaction with a multitude of people. Governor Palin has no multi ethnic experience, and therefore no American experience. In 1994 Governor Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party (She was a registered member and the records of that registration disappeared. Yet Her Husband Todd was a registered member for more than 10 years.) The main purpose of this party has been the sovereignty of the state of Alaska. When I went to the AIP website I saw a word “Links” I clicked on links and found that there are many such organizations throughout the United States and Canada. One such group is the Southern Party, the objective of the Southern Party is the emancipation of the 16 southern States giving resurrection to the Confederate. In Other documentation I learned that the AIP( Especially its founder) was involved with the Klu Klux Klan and even the Nazi Party. ( He worked with COORS and others in support of George Wallace) Well ok then in other articles I found mention of Sara’a church and Sara’s Pastor Rev. Paul Riley as a member of the AIP. Imagine Obama’s Pastor was radical but he was not a member of any group that has ever participated in hate crimes. ( Read what Sara thinks about Hate Crimes) So you may say this is crazy Sara is a good Right Wing Conservative not a klan’s woman? I don’t know that. Everyday everyone finds out something new about Sara. So I questioned what is it that would make the Republicans attempt to pull this on America? Well the right wing, want to change America. They want to reduce the size of America and to control the Supreme Court. Therefore Sara Palin is a pretty face and charming like a snake. She is full of lies and has been exposed and a continual attempt to deceive America. As an American Citizen I am appalled at the idea that John McCain would make this desperate attempt to take advantage of trusting people. My Friend Lane she may have ideas that I don’t agree with but she is not one to go hanging people. Sara’ friends hang and shoot and believe that they have right to superiority. Lane is one who told me George W. Bush was going to be a great President before his first term, but she believed that, she is not one who believes that we should bring back the confederate. Sara Palin is. After all of my research I thought well now I have the info. Then I learned that her son was given a choice jail or the military. Sara Palin is pretty poison. We must not be fooled and John McCain has made himself un trust able. How can we trust a guy who tries to hide a pregnancy, and attempts to make us trust in someone of the AIP? We must pay attention and NOT SLEEP…….
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah is oh so dumb . . .
You notice she did not talk about her education in Idaho vs. Obama's education at Columbia or the fact that she was in the lowest sector or her class vs Obama cum laude and later attended Harvard Law School where he became the first African American President of THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. With that Obama chose to become a community organizer. in one of the largest and more cosmoplitan cities in America. --- On Thu, 9/4/08, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah is oh so dumb . . . To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:47 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Democratic Underground: If you're still looking for reasons not to vote for Sarah Palin, here's one more: she's dumb as a stump. When running for governor in 2006, Palin filled out an Eagle Forum questionnaire. One of the questions was Are you offended by the phrase 'Under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not? Here's her response: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance. Well played, Sarah - well played. Just two small problems. First, the Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892, and second, the phrase Under God was added in 1954. Oh well. Ignorant is not dumb/. She might not be all that smart, but she's got a pretty good record for wowing conservative Republicans at national conventions, which is its own kind of street smarts. Lawson To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah is oh so dumb . . .
You notice she did not talk about her education in Idaho vs. Obama's education at Columbia or the fact that she was in the lowest sector of her class vs Obama cum laude and later heattended Harvard Law School where he became the first African American President of THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. With that Obama chose to become a community organizer. in one of the largest and more cosmoplitan cities in America.Sara Palin has no graduate education. --- On Thu, 9/4/08, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah is oh so dumb . . . To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:47 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Democratic Underground: If you're still looking for reasons not to vote for Sarah Palin, here's one more: she's dumb as a stump. When running for governor in 2006, Palin filled out an Eagle Forum questionnaire. One of the questions was Are you offended by the phrase 'Under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not? Here's her response: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance. Well played, Sarah - well played. Just two small problems. First, the Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892, and second, the phrase Under God was added in 1954. Oh well. Ignorant is not dumb/. She might not be all that smart, but she's got a pretty good record for wowing conservative Republicans at national conventions, which is its own kind of street smarts. Lawson To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah...
well there is abstinence and there is religion and there is the right wing, on the one hand on the other there was Bill Clinton who's sex life was used to impeach him. they tried to say it was not about his sex life but about character and judgment. Morality. Democrats are immoral they said in 1992 the year of family values. Clinton was immoral... Well now that the shoe is on the other foot. Why shouldn't it matter that these people go before God and the world claiming to be Right Wing Christians but have very mixed values when it is to their liking. Sex before marriage, like mother like daughter, pregnancy before marriage and the strong risk of aids. In addition to all there is the fact that they tried to hide it.Deceive the American people, what did we do to deserve that? --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:52 AM Shut-the-fuk up, Curtis, about other people's private sex life. It's none of your business Everything I care to notice is as much or as little of my business as I decide to make it. Sexism on Fairfield Life? Judy was right. Hillary Clinton's campaign complained about sexism in the media during his primary battle vs. Barack Obama, and we are seeing now just how right she was about sexism in the media. Read more: 'Sexism in the media? Hillary was right.' Posted by Mitcell Blatt Media Perspective, September 3rd, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/68c2v3 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morals Safe sex and Leadership
well probably shouldn't have said that but..not ashamed just a little perturbed with double standards. I did not mention names. --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morals Safe sex and Leadership To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 11:40 AM Louis McKenzie wrote: I have four sisters three of them got pregnant before marriage. What do your sisters think about you talking about them on the internet, Mr. McKenzie? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah...
no but in any case it came down to sex --- On Wed, 9/3/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:27 PM well there is abstinence and there is religion and there is the right wing, on the one hand on the other there was Bill Clinton who's sex life was used to impeach him. they tried to say it was not about his sex life but about character and judgment Actually, the impeachment charges were for perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power. ...have you posted out yet? --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 10:21 AM well there is abstinence and there is religion and there is the right wing, on the one hand on the other there was Bill Clinton who's sex life was used to impeach him. they tried to say it was not about his sex life but about character and judgment. Morality. Democrats are immoral they said in 1992 the year of family values. Clinton was immoral... Well now that the shoe is on the other foot. Why shouldn't it matter that these people go before God and the world claiming to be Right Wing Christians but have very mixed values when it is to their liking. Sex before marriage, like mother like daughter, pregnancy before marriage and the strong risk of aids. In addition to all there is the fact that they tried to hide it.Deceive the American people, what did we do to deserve that? --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:52 AM Shut-the-fuk up, Curtis, about other people's private sex life. It's none of your business Everything I care to notice is as much or as little of my business as I decide to make it. Sexism on Fairfield Life? Judy was right. Hillary Clinton's campaign complained about sexism in the media during his primary battle vs. Barack Obama, and we are seeing now just how right she was about sexism in the media. Read more: 'Sexism in the media? Hillary was right.' Posted by Mitcell Blatt Media Perspective, September 3rd, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/68c2v3 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Madam President Let US PRAY
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Goobernator: The Sarah Palin Chroncles
Well she was a cheerleader. It was a pep rally. She really uses her kids, she exploits them. I dont think Obama exploits his kids. Yet but now we have to see what happens next. I think she has opened the door for a real whippin. Not just from Obama/Biden/Clinton but to Keith and who Knows who else Campbell Brown will get her chance I am sure. Good Luck Sara --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Goobernator: The Sarah Palin Chroncles To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:15 AM Gee I thought the Republican Convention had been preempted by some small town football rally tonight. But no, what looked like a skit out of Saturday Night Live was Sarah Palin giving her acceptance speech. Did anyone else (who bothered to watch) notice the ding ding ding between each sentence? Maybe John McCain should have offered the VP office to Paris Hilton. She has more experience delivering lines on national TV. I would say the Republican Party has sunk to a new low. We can call them the gooberville Republicans and when the election is over and Obama is in the White house maybe Palin can take what is left of the Republican Party with her back to Alaska. Lord knows that's where they belong. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama's bounce smaller than others
I dont understand the polls how is it that a guy can have 84000 people in a foot ball stadium have all the things in the convention and not move in the polls... Even McCain can have this stupid situation with the bimbo and still the polls dont change.? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:15 PM I'm wondering if Judy wasn't right all along. Maybe Hillary was the better choice all along and Barack is unelectable. The way this is, McCain won't even need to fix the Diabold machines. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13068 Barack Obama's post-Democratic National Convention bounce in the polls appears to be slightly smaller than the norm of past conventions, and it's gradually depreciating. On Saturday, Gallup reported Obama was ahead by 8 percentage points. By Monday, that lead had shrunk to 5 points. Obama's 3-point bounce exceeds that of John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004 who did not rise in the polls following his convention. But Obama's bounce is less than a third of what Al Gore received in 2000 and Bill Clinton received in 1992. Even Bob Dole, following the 1996 Republican convention, received a 4-point bounce in the polls, 1 point more than Obama. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's bounce smaller than others
WHY? Is the smear working? or are the polls accurate? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:30 PM There seem to be a number of things you don't understand Louis. The polls did change. McCain rose while Obama slipped. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont understand the polls how is it that a guy can have 84000 people in a foot ball stadium have all the things in the convention and not move in the polls... Even McCain can have this stupid situation with the bimbo and still the polls dont change.? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:15 PM I'm wondering if Judy wasn't right all along. Maybe Hillary was the better choice all along and Barack is unelectable. The way this is, McCain won't even need to fix the Diabold machines. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13068 Barack Obama's post-Democratic National Convention bounce in the polls appears to be slightly smaller than the norm of past conventions, and it's gradually depreciating. On Saturday, Gallup reported Obama was ahead by 8 percentage points. By Monday, that lead had shrunk to 5 points. Obama's 3-point bounce exceeds that of John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004 who did not rise in the polls following his convention. But Obama's bounce is less than a third of what Al Gore received in 2000 and Bill Clinton received in 1992. Even Bob Dole, following the 1996 Republican convention, received a 4-point bounce in the polls, 1 point more than Obama. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's bounce smaller than others
For all accounts Obama did all of the below but did not move..?? Who are they polling? HOW PERMANENT WILL OBAMA’S BOUNCE BE? By Dick Morris 08.25.2008 Everybody agrees that when Barack Obama finishes his historic outdoor acceptance speech on Thursday night and the 75,000 adoring fans in attendance finally quiet down, he will bounce up in the polls, likely to as much as a 10-point lead or even more. Obama is at his best when delivering a telepromptered speech to a large and enthusiastic crowd. What would be a major task for some is just batting practice for this skilled orator. But how long will his bounce last? To make it stay and not let McCain dissipate it with the Republican convention that will follow hard on the heels of the Democratic gathering, Obama needs to give a State of the Union speech, not a campaign speech, to his national television audience. His trademark dialogue with his audience, in which they take turns repeating lines like “Yes we can” or “Not this time,” works well on a sweaty primary night when Obama declares victory, but it won’t be enough on Thursday night. His Berlin speaking style, threading the needle and walking the tightrope between policy options and broad principles with which no one can really disagree, will also lead to a quickly fading bounce. He may satiate his partisan audience, but he will not prevent the electorate from feeling a hunger for substance the next day. Rather, Obama’s model should be Al Gore’s acceptance speech in 2000 or Bill Clinton’s in 1996. Both were virtual State of the Union speeches, delivered to an audience rather than to Congress, but televised and just as widely seen. In those speeches, his predecessors canvassed each aspect of public policy and articulated a program or initiative to move it forward. Each topic got its paragraph, punctuated at the end with an applause line. Then came a transition sentence into the next topic. This rote formulation, repeated over and over, sounds boring to speechwriters and may lack the emotional eloquence for which Obama is famous, but the time has come for the Democratic candidate to answer the question being asked about him all over: in effect, where’s the beef? For his acceptance speech to carry him over through the week of the Republican convention and into the fall, it has to be a compendium of policy departures, outlining, in specifics, what he plans to do as president. He must lay out his future course plainly and in detail. Rhetorical flourishes will not serve as a replacement for hard proposals. To quote Obama, “Not this time!” Television commentators may deplore the laundry list approach to such a speech, and his audience may find itself less moved or thrilled than usual, but he’ll just have to disappoint the folks. America knows that Obama offers hope and change and fresh approaches. But we don’t know what that means. We don’t understand exactly where he will take us, and his recent flipping and flopping obscures whatever clarity we might once have had. But now Obama can set us straight and give himself an enduring platform for the rest of his campaign. In the primaries, Hillary was the candidate of issues and Obama was the voice of hope. When Clinton was expounding upon the details of her healthcare plan, Obama was soaring in his rhetoric promoting change. That was good enough for the primaries. But it won’t work in this speech. Can Obama do it? “Yes, he can.” But will he? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:40 PM Louis read this, it explains why Obama did not bounce: http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/09/01/palin-designation-nullifies- obama-bounce/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont understand the polls how is it that a guy can have 84000 people in a foot ball stadium have all the things in the convention and not move in the polls... Even McCain can have this stupid situation with the bimbo and still the polls dont change.? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:15 PM I'm wondering if Judy wasn't right all along. Maybe Hillary was the better choice all along and Barack is unelectable. The way this is, McCain won't even need to fix the Diabold machines. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13068 Barack Obama's post-Democratic National Convention bounce in the polls appears
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah...
Well most Christian folks would first recognize that she was a little W. then they would ask Jesus to forgive her. I am not hearing any calls for forgiveness I am hearing well she is going to get married so that makes it ok. --- On Tue, 9/2/08, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There's something about Sarah... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 12:44 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawson wrote: My 2 cents: Palin made a decision to fake her own pregnancy to keep her daughter's pregnancy out of the media. Maybe you should shut-the-fuk up about Palin's daughter's pregnancy - it's really none of your business and it's totally irrelevant to any of the current political issues. Palin is VP choice for 1 reason, she's the darling of the religious right who have made family values and teen pregnancy a political issue to smear the opposition for yrs. Palin and McCain support abstinence only sex ed which has been shown to not work and has not worked in palin's family, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, wingnuts like willytex spent yrs trashing chelsea clinton for no good reason and MCCAIN HIMSELF is known for stirring up republican fundraisers for years with a particularly distasteful joke about chelsea (why is chelsea clinton so ugly? because janet reno is the father.) admit it willytex you still love that joke, but now politicians' children are suddenly off target. HYPOCRITE To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's bounce smaller than others
I would like to see polls that show young people, women catholics and so forth. I'll bet those polls show Obama in better position they are not showing these polls. --- On Tue, 9/2/08, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:40 PM Louis read this, it explains why Obama did not bounce: http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/09/01/palin-designation-nullifies- obama-bounce/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont understand the polls how is it that a guy can have 84000 people in a foot ball stadium have all the things in the convention and not move in the polls... Even McCain can have this stupid situation with the bimbo and still the polls dont change.? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama's bounce smaller than others To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:15 PM I'm wondering if Judy wasn't right all along. Maybe Hillary was the better choice all along and Barack is unelectable. The way this is, McCain won't even need to fix the Diabold machines. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13068 Barack Obama's post-Democratic National Convention bounce in the polls appears to be slightly smaller than the norm of past conventions, and it's gradually depreciating. On Saturday, Gallup reported Obama was ahead by 8 percentage points. By Monday, that lead had shrunk to 5 points. Obama's 3-point bounce exceeds that of John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004 who did not rise in the polls following his convention. But Obama's bounce is less than a third of what Al Gore received in 2000 and Bill Clinton received in 1992. Even Bob Dole, following the 1996 Republican convention, received a 4-point bounce in the polls, 1 point more than Obama. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Morals Safe sex and Leadership
I just did a check on Sara Palin on the internet, wikipedia has a biography on the governor one interesting thing is that she eloped with her husband when she was 24 because she was pregnant. She too practiced unprotected sex before she was married. Family Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston redirect here. Palin family members at the announcement of Palin's vice presidential selection, August 29, 2008. From left: Todd, Piper, Willow, Bristol, and Trig. Palin eloped with her high-school boyfriend, Todd Palin, on August 29, 1988, when she was 24 years old.[6] According to her mother, the reason was simple: It was a shock but she did it because she knew we couldn’t afford a big white wedding.[139] Their first son, Track, was born eight months after their wedding.[140] Todd works for BP as an oil-field production operator[141] and owns a commercial fishing business.[26] He is a champion snowmobiler, who has won the 2,000-mile (3,200 km) Iron Dog race four times.[6] The family lives in Wasilla.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alsaka voter on Sarah Palin
Did anyone here ever see the program Commander and Chief with Gina Davis? They are looking at Sara Palin as this woman. Realizing that most people in America use television as their most effective educational tool they have hoped that everyone will make that connection. Sara Palin even looks like the Gina Davis Character a soccer mom/ school teacher who becomes President. The show was canceled with high rating and emmy nomination. --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alsaka voter on Sarah Palin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:28 PM TurquoiseB wrote: I'd say stick to her record. Palin, for example, vetoed 300 pork projects in Alaska in her first year in office. She made a habit of knocking out big-government Republicans in her brief political career. For this, the 44-year-old mother of five enjoys a sterling approval rating in a state with arguably the nation's most libertarian-minded populace. It's not about experience, it's about judgment. - Barak Obama 'The Libertarian Case for Palin' By David Harsanyi http://tinyurl.com/5k6jft To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morals Safe sex and Leadership
I have four sisters three of them got pregnant before marriage. One got married in the beginning. For my mother this was too much to bare. I try to keep my daughters from this. My youngest sister got pregnant when I was at MIU. I was on the sidhis course and they called to tell me she had a baby at age 14. Had I been home she would never have had that baby and the guy who got her pregnant ran every time he saw me. For me he was man enough to make a baby then he was man enough to take the ass kicking that would come for doing it. How can the president of the country be what was referred to as a trollup, and then pass those same values to her daughter under the disguise of right wing religion.? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morals Safe sex and Leadership To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:53 PM Louis McKenzie wrote: She too practiced unprotected sex before she was married... You just don't seem to get it - it's none of your business about other people's private sex life. Politics don't get dirtier than smearing a pregnant girl, Louis. Why would you want to sink that low? McCain opponents used a telephone push poll across the state, asking voters what they thought of McCain's illegitimate black child. McCain lost South Carolina, and the Republican nomination. Read more: 'Politics don't get dirtier than smearing pregnant girl' By John Kass Chicago Tribune, September 2, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5eyyjm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] ANother take on McCain Heroism
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/95906/michael_moore_dares_to_ask:_what%27s_so_heroic_about_being_shot_down_while_bombing_innocent_civilians http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/95906/michael_moore_dares_to_ask:_what%27s_so_heroic_about_being_shot_down_while_bombing_innocent_civilians/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:McCain's *real* reason for picking Palin?
McCain does not want to talk with reporters. I wonder why? --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:McCain's *real* reason for picking Palin? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 9:45 PM On Sep 1, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Betty Sterling wrote: McCain's pick of Palin is another expression of Republican cluelessness. McCain-Palin makes a laughing stock of Obama's change message, Betty, and underscores Obama's inexperience, since Obama had to bring in Joe Biden in order to bolster his own foreign relations inexperience. McCain with his pick of Palin unifies the Repug party, and reaches out to the middle at the same time. Or his choice makes a laughing stock of the Repubs, as McCain does what he most famous for: jumping into things on a maverick impulse, unprepared and impulsive. So now we get to watch the soap opera of his own making. He had only talked to her previously on a mere two occasions, according to Bill Maher, before asking her to become V-PotUS. He didn't really even know her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What's up with McCain here
I believe McCain knows he wont win or that he will win no matter what. In any case why not have pretty furniture. --- On Sun, 8/31/08, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] What's up with McCain here To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 6:50 PM Maybe Dr.Pete could watch this video of mccain and palin and give his professional opinion. It looks like mccain spends most of the time staring at her breasts and fiddling with his wedding ring - what's the significance of this? http://www.jedreport.com/2008/08/getting-to-know-you.html#disqus_thread To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Conservative Right wing America's number one man
America's number one conservative Republican --- On Sun, 8/31/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Conservative Right wing To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:47 PM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:33 pm Subject: Conservative Right wing View full size View full size View full size View full size John McCain thinks women are just legs and breast and middle parts, they do not deserve equal pay for equal effort or capability, they should have mans babies no matter what without choice and they are just plain old secondary citizens who will vote for him even if he just picked her for her breast. Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices More! Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices More!
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: 4 more years or 4 more months
what does this say about right wing america --- On Sun, 8/31/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: 4 more years or 4 more months To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:47 PM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:42 pm Subject: 4 more years or 4 more months View full size View full size View full size View full size Were the confederate the right wing of the republican party Here is America's number one right wing representative having a good time at the Olympics... Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices More! Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices More!
Re: [FairfieldLife] L. Carl and B. Hussein!
WOO H UNGAWA --- On Sat, 8/30/08, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] L. Carl and B. Hussein! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 4:01 AM It seems like within a week or so, first L. Carl Davidson Hamilton shalt win 2008 Formula 1 World Championship, and his twin bro, B. Hussein Obama shalt become the Next President of the United States of Amerika. :D http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Obama
Was this included in what Maharishi meant when he said his work was done?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Latest Obama scandal to overshadow Wright scandal
If this was true he would be in jail a long time ago. Look he got passed the Clinton Machin they looked him up and down. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Latest Obama scandal to overshadow Wright scandal To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:56 AM Just another attempt at a smear by some desperate right-wing hack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [This is my 50th for the week so I will not be able to respond until later today] Has anyone heard about this? I just heard a mention of it yesterday and the details are sketchy but apparently a journalist, Stanly Kurtz, is exposing Ayers/Obama as more than just Barack playing footsies with a self-admitted and unrepentant Weatherman terrorist...and it's going to make the Jeremiah Wright affair look like Mother Theresa sat down for tea with Barack. Barack and Ayers got together to raise funds for some community project. But there is $50 million or $100 million that Ayers and Obama both, together, applied for and got in public funding for the project that has apparently disappeared. No one seems to know where it is. So much for successful community organizing. I haven't read the whole thing (you know, my attention span being what it is) but here's an interesting article that Kurtz wrote about the terrorist and Obama: http://tinyurl.com/5v4twh . To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :)
Its called the Marylin Monroe approach --- On Fri, 8/29/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:44 PM On the news just now, they said Palin is pro-life and the Christian fundamentalists love her. The McCain camp is hoping she will bring in the Cathloic vote. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Fri, 8/29/08, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:32 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's sure a winning ticket. I think Michael Palin would be funnier. ...but mountain doesn't move! A few facts about palin - she's in favor of teaching creationism in science classes, does not believe insurance should cover contraception, and generally is true to the nuttiest fundamentalist beliefs. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 10:49 AM Now that's sure a winning ticket. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :)
Its called the Marylin Monroe approach it shows just what he thinks of women. Totally goes along with his voting record..on women in the work place and so forth --- On Fri, 8/29/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:44 PM On the news just now, they said Palin is pro-life and the Christian fundamentalists love her. The McCain camp is hoping she will bring in the Cathloic vote. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Fri, 8/29/08, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:32 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's sure a winning ticket. I think Michael Palin would be funnier. ...but mountain doesn't move! A few facts about palin - she's in favor of teaching creationism in science classes, does not believe insurance should cover contraception, and generally is true to the nuttiest fundamentalist beliefs. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 10:49 AM Now that's sure a winning ticket. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama
Well from this day they are either going to find some dynamite marksmen because they will not win any other way --- On Fri, 8/29/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 7:38 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: Was this included in what Maharishi meant when he said his work was done? So many 'torches' have been passed in recent months; To a new generation of leadership... I remember on the emotional day the Maharishi passed, It was on Tues, Feb 5th... In a place far away, in the Country that Maharishi had called the: 'Most creative country in the world'... That day, was also called 'Super-Tuesday' in American politics. That was the turning point, when Barck Obama became a viable candidate, and so this was the timing, that I remember clearly. And is documented by history. R.G. That's certainly an interesting thought, though I think much greater happenings will follow in the footprints of Maharishi than simply a change of a President. AND the fellow is not yet elected. For him to get elected something dramatic must have occurred in the american collective consciousness. I am not yet convinced this has happened though I may be wrong. If it has it certainly is a happy turn of events. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :)
choices: Obama/ Biden McCain/Monroe Bob Barr Ru Paul --- On Fri, 8/29/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 1:08 PM If McCain wins the election, Palin will be a shoe-in for the republican nomination after McCain leaves office. The incumbents are always heavily favored to get the nominaion. Perhaps we will end up with a woman for president in the not too distant future. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:01 PM Its called the Marylin Monroe approach it shows just what he thinks of women. Totally goes along with his voting record..on women in the work place and so forth --- On Fri, 8/29/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:44 PM On the news just now, they said Palin is pro-life and the Christian fundamentalists love her. The McCain camp is hoping she will bring in the Cathloic vote. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Fri, 8/29/08, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:32 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's sure a winning ticket. I think Michael Palin would be funnier. ...but mountain doesn't move! A few facts about palin - she's in favor of teaching creationism in science classes, does not believe insurance should cover contraception, and generally is true to the nuttiest fundamentalist beliefs. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Make that McCain and Palin :) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 10:49 AM Now that's sure a winning ticket. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FairfieldLife] woo hoo Hillary
Wow! Did you hear Hillary Clinton’s speech? This was phenomenal, not just the speech but her ground of being in giving it. She, a woman 24 million dollars plus in debt., stood up and gave the greatest endorsement anyone could ever give. This proves it is possible to fail, it is possible to not achieve your goal and still be a winner. In 2004 I wrote Hillary Clinton and asked her to run for President. Many people did the same. She chose not to run and we had four more years of George Bush. In 2006 everyone knew she would run, but now there was a new guy on the block, he was in the same place Hillary had been, four years before when I wrote my letter. I received a letter from the Senator in Illinois asking me if I thought he should run for President. I did not know what to say. I told the truth as I saw it. I said it was better to wait. Better to get more time in the Senate, better to let someone else be the fall guy for the mess that George Bush had made, and better to not go up against the Clinton Machine. Well everyone knows the rest of the story. Yet one thing I did do, I wrote Hillary a lblog after she lost Iowa. I was pulled between the two. I was pulled because of the fact that I became a Hillary fan when she had to make some intense decisions in 1996, 1997 as her world was falling apart. Hillary Clinton has not been one who was afraid of how the world would see her. She has had herself out on the front line so much; I can not help but admire Hillary Clinton, as she is not afraid of appearing to be a fool. In the blog I wrote her I suggested that she had to not play the boys game if she wanted to win. She had to put forth, in my opinion, who and what she brings to America. She is a mother, a woman, a wife, a person with values and one who looks beyond this moment to see more than what is before her, she has vision, she is intelligent, powerful and she feels. I reminded her in the letter, that when she had to be in front of America and choose her marriage and her love of her husband Bill Clinton, I wrote, America was seeing her at her worst and best. Her ratings soared through the roof. There was no election she could not win. A few days later she actually cried on television. I thought oh boy. Yet she did what I said. I don’t know if she read my blog, but she did send me an email that looked personal the very next morning after she won New Hampshire. When she won I felt guilty. I believed I had to be loyal to my brother Barack. I felt if there is anyway Barack Obama can become the next President of the United States, I have to support him. I could not in good conscience support a white woman over Barack Obama, whom I did not remember from Columbia at the time. I think I would have remembered the name Barack. Anyway I chose to support Barack, in the only way I could. I blogged, I debated, I campaigned in forums, on my site in chats where ever to push as many people as I could to vote for Barack Obama. For me, I have been pushing for Obama Clinton, but when Hillary’s new campaign manager wrote and asked me to advise as to where her campaign should be going, I responded stop the smear and negotiate. Negotiate the VP position and assistance with the debt. He responded Hillary would not hear any thought that even sounded like quit. So I wrote back, Quit who said quit I said begin to negotiate. It wasn’t happening. Hillary kept going. She kept going and she kept going. I think now, she must have been hearing the dogs. Who could not admire her gumption? Not one man had as much gumption as Hillary Clinton. Not one man could have given Barack Obama as much of a fight as Hillary Clinton did. Hillary Clinton may not have won the nomination but she kicked Barack Obamas ass, every single day. He had to be strong he had to be tough, he had to wake up everyday to see what Hillary had in store for him. Throughout this process he grew stronger and stronger. Hillary Clinton was making President Obama. For me, she was his greatest supporter when they did the debate in Ohio and she was staring at him with complete admiration and appreciation. She loved him. I could see that. How could she not. Here is a guy who basically had the same agenda as she did and he had one more thing. He is a loving caring loyal husband. The one thing she did not have. She could trust him. Tonight Hillary has proven herself again. She stood before America, the loser yet she proved to be A WINNER. I pray she delivered to Barack Obama 18 million votes and the 2008 election, she made him President. It will just go up from here. On Thursday Barack Obama has a big job. He has some tough acts to follow. Ted Kennedy, who came to the convention knowing that it could effect him adversely, Michelle, Jessie Jackson jr. Warren, Hillary, Bill, and Joe Biden WOW! Barack I don’t know brother,
[FairfieldLife] Is Joe Biden A Meditator??
Some where I remember hearing that Joe Biden is a meditator
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
Thanks. I thought I made it clear but I guess I did not. My partners and the investors are different people. I have kept going the whole time to be able to pay the investors their money back. I have taken responsibility for their money even if they have not been willing to assist me at all. They invested because they thought I was working for my partners. They had a responsibility to cover the company and my personal expenses while I built the company. The Partners got friends to put up money and then they abandoned. They thought they had me in a position that they would own the major portion of the company even if they did not uphold their responsibilities. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:28 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I am writing all of this to say. Even though I may question if perhaps I am a little nuts. I have really gotten to see what happens when one puts principal ahead of security. I think the word you want is 'principle.' I had received money to make an investment 3 years ago. The investors backed out they only want to know when I will give their money back or have money for them. I know that most here express sympathy for your situation, and I do as well, but this legitimate question remains unaddressed in your post. Please note that all of the following information in your post is about *you* and *your* family and *your* lifestyle: My original partners abandoned me 3 years ago. I could have chosen to run away but I did not. In the three years from 2005 till 2008 I was able to send my step daughter to a Waldorf School and allow my wife the time to devote to our toddler. From 6 months pregnant to 3 years old my wife was able to dedicate herself to our children. In Brazil this is not valued, but for me it is very important. I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not getting their money back have any impact on *their* families or *their* lifestyles? I believe that within the next couple of days my funding will be finally in my account. I will put forth the first payment on our home and hopefully get my family back in order. And again, your funding (theoretically, more investment in your business ideas) comes through, and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for you and your family? While the question of how much is left for the business idea or how much goes to repaying your original investors remains unaddressed? I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque. During my time there I ran into probably two dozen people who still spit every time they hear the name Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few cases hundreds of thousands of dollars. The richest man in the world has never paid those debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts. Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to charity for the rest of his life, but not one of these people he left holding the bag are ever going to have an ounce of respect for him. All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for you and you start to get back on your feet financially, you might want to put some thought into repaying the people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring to them as having backed out on you. I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of your post leads me to believe they might have had some reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom line is that if you still owe them money, you still owe them money. They didn't *give* you the money, dude...they *invested* in you. If you don't repay their investment, you can write here all you want about how your vision helped you through the struggle, but that's like listening to Bill Gates spout bullshit about how he made billions by being so smart, when in fact he got rich by bailing on his debts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
Thanks. I thought I made it clear but I guess I did not. My partners and the investors are different people. I have kept going the whole time to be able to pay the investors their money back. I have taken responsibility for their money even if they have not been willing to assist me at all. They invested because they thought I was working for my partners. They had a responsibility to cover the company and my personal expenses while I built the company. The Partners got friends to put up money and then they abandoned. They thought they had me in a position that they would own the major portion of the company even if they did not uphold their responsibilities. So as I stated in the original post I had to agree to a settlement so the settlement is a payment not investment. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:28 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I am writing all of this to say. Even though I may question if perhaps I am a little nuts. I have really gotten to see what happens when one puts principal ahead of security. I think the word you want is 'principle.' I had received money to make an investment 3 years ago. The investors backed out they only want to know when I will give their money back or have money for them. I know that most here express sympathy for your situation, and I do as well, but this legitimate question remains unaddressed in your post. Please note that all of the following information in your post is about *you* and *your* family and *your* lifestyle: My original partners abandoned me 3 years ago. I could have chosen to run away but I did not. In the three years from 2005 till 2008 I was able to send my step daughter to a Waldorf School and allow my wife the time to devote to our toddler. From 6 months pregnant to 3 years old my wife was able to dedicate herself to our children. In Brazil this is not valued, but for me it is very important. I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not getting their money back have any impact on *their* families or *their* lifestyles? I believe that within the next couple of days my funding will be finally in my account. I will put forth the first payment on our home and hopefully get my family back in order. And again, your funding (theoretically, more investment in your business ideas) comes through, and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for you and your family? While the question of how much is left for the business idea or how much goes to repaying your original investors remains unaddressed? I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque. During my time there I ran into probably two dozen people who still spit every time they hear the name Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few cases hundreds of thousands of dollars. The richest man in the world has never paid those debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts. Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to charity for the rest of his life, but not one of these people he left holding the bag are ever going to have an ounce of respect for him. All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for you and you start to get back on your feet financially, you might want to put some thought into repaying the people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring to them as having backed out on you. I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of your post leads me to believe they might have had some reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom line is that if you still owe them money, you still owe them money. They didn't *give* you the money, dude...they *invested* in you. If you don't repay their investment, you can write here all you want about how your vision helped you through the struggle, but that's like listening to Bill Gates spout bullshit about how he made billions by being so smart, when in fact he got rich by bailing on his debts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
Pitty Party??? I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind of pity party for Louis and all he's been through, and that we were supposed to express our compassion and our admiration of him sticking to his principles throughout it all. Anyway I dont know what you are talking about. I do know there is a difference between partnerships and investors. If one is a partner then that is much different than an investor. However I am not going into details about my business ventures. I only stated that I am learning what it takes to succeed. Even that you do not have to stop just because the money stops. Get rich quick scheme? dont understand. I thank you for getting one part of my post correct but I guess what you did not understand is a big part of the last three years has been keeping going so I did not lose the money and I would be able to pay the investors back. Partners who quit well maybe for me I have abandonment issues. Yet the investors I have taken the money as if it was my own. As in 100% responsibility for it. You assumed that I would rather buy a house instead of pay them. NoNot true. However I am taking care of my family as well this time. Since the investors could not send 50.00 for food for my family YES I AM PUTTING MY FAMILY FIRST --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 8:34 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot when he was struggling financially. Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!! He never even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and establish himself financialy secure. Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!! Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common. Exactly. I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind of pity party for Louis and all he's been through, and that we were supposed to express our compassion and our admiration of him sticking to his principles throughout it all. Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that those principles don't seem to involve repaying the people who loaned him money or invested in his busi- ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more about sticking to the purity of his vision. Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their rent, or their business schemes that never worked out, or in one case, their women. And they thought of all of these things they spent the money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana, and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what- ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts that need to be respected but money flowing in from the universe -- an expression of support of nature. Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres- sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did not have that much money in the first place, and had to do without a few things himself f*in order to* help them out. Not a penny ever got repaid. And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it. I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I think there is something wrong with it when someone meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends when the scheme goes belly up. Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without clarifying the details of these people who backed him who are now so unevolved as to want their money back. It could be a simple failure of language, and I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I apologize in advance. But the whole schtick in this post was principle, and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one principle that kept getting ignored was *paying back* the people who invested money. If it had been me, I would have gone wherever I could have found work and paid back every penny. *Then* I would have started over on some new plan. That's my definition of commitment, belief, trust, and how to deal with adversity. You can call me non-spiritual for feeling
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
My wife says the thing that has bothered her the most about me is my calmness. That I could pass through anything and just meditate and not have any negative emotion. JAI GURU DEV Once we were passing a moment of no money we went six weeks or two months with a rigged electric. Everyday day we chanted Gayatri mantra whole family even my son at the time age 18 months. Then WOW! we came into money again. We paid the light bill paid the school bill and went to the beach. GOD WORKS --- On Mon, 8/25/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:51 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Louis McKenzie Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy Thanks guys for your support. Everyone that has written I need it. I do chant Gayatri Mantra but I do not know Mahamritunjaya Mantra..If you know it please send it to me. If you know where I can hear it please send me to the link. THANKS ALL Your support is very helpful. I read your whole thing too and I really admire your integrity and determination. I hope you end up comfortably affluent without too much more stress and strain in getting there. Agreed totally. Thumbs up Louis ! And I think you gathered all that strenght from your character and your TM-Programme. Stay regular in your practise - no mumbo-jumbo-mantras necessary ! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them that Hillary will be Secretary of State. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:22 AM Yeah, yeah, yeah... Bring it on, mentality... Do we need more of this? We can't afford more of this, We can't afford any more of this mentality. Just say no, like Ronny used to say; Choosing McCain is just insane... Like Obama says, Doing the same thing over and over, And expecting a different result... R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Does McCain have Anti-Christ Potential'
The stage is set now. McCain will either come into office if he wins and send troops to Georgia and declare war on Iran. Or he will push Israel to do so. Then he will do the offshore drilling and when an accident happens so many beautiful seas will turn black. the US economy??? What is that??? it will not exist. and the country will have to go into Martial Law. This is what John McCain means for America The other side is he will be too afraid of himself to do anything and the results of being a broken war hero will show their head. He will be the first catatonic president. either way bad for america --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Does McCain have Anti-Christ Potential' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 9:41 AM With the company he keeps, he does... But, Bush is a hard act to follow- In that regard... R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
Well Forgiveness and mercy are always important. One thing I have learned is that the road to success is full of opportunity. Some opportunities are good and some not so good. One thing I have learned is that sometimes people dont really care about people. If I dont care about me maybe no one else will either. An investor is one thing a partner is someone with a particular responsibility that the person chooses to take on for a certain percentage of ownership. In this case just as that person is a partner so too am I . Why do you believe that one partner would be any more or less responsible for the results of things than the other. My so called partners in this particular venture thought I was weak and stupid. So they thought they could bully me into giving up my blank Instead they found something else. I dont know what I will do with them . The investors will get their money back, yet as I have never met them I will see what goes with so called partners. Investors= understanding Partners who quit or abandon = anger and uncertainty --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:36 AM TurquoiseB wrote: All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for you and you start to get back on your feet financially, you might want to put some thought into repaying the people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring to them as having backed out on you. From 1988 to 1991, Rama's individual tuition rose from roughly one thousand to three thousand dollars per month. He told followers that since NPDS and ASI were actually furthering their careers, they should deduct the increasing payments from their taxes. This enabled Rama to dramatically increase his surprise gift reservoir - while bilking the IRS of millions, in a way that would be difficult to expose. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
I don't know Rama. I once had a partner in another business whom when he was excited about things he went out and raised a whole lot of money. He did things and promised things that I would not do. Then when he got depressed he quit. Before he officially quit he told me that he would only quit when he was sure I could not continue. I was not sure what he meant by that. Then I started a venture that actually started making money. He called my new partner's wife a stupid bitch and told bank officers he was me. I began to understand him. I became weary of partners. When Partners lose they sometimes make excuses for the loss, by blaming others. So they bad mouth like gossipers. I like investors not so sure about partners. I have expectation with partners no expectation with investors. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:43 AM TurquoiseB wrote: You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is not found in the glorious plans one talks about or pitches to others, but in what one DOES when those plans some- times don't work out. So, you've still got some 'negative energy' to work out! In 1989, Rama justified to the disciples his rising tuition. I nearly killed myself by accepting your Negative Occult Energy, he said, and now you are going to have to pay for it. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/14.epil-3 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
I am sorry you had this experience. I have seen worst probably called worst. Not a guru For me Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was/is my friend. If he was doing a project or was participating in a project to help other people I would do all I could to help him --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:00 AM TurquoiseB wrote: My rant was aimed not at you personally but at people I've known who borrowed hundreds of thousands of dollars from friends to create a business, did so, and then spent the first five years' earnings from the business on new cars, houses, and an ostentatious lifestyle. Generally, this was to be paid in US $100 bills - higher vibratory energy, ex-members say. Gifts and costly special excursions are extra: In practice, members give Lenz almost all their money, according to published reports and ex-followers. They squeeze into shared, unfurnished apartments while he flies in a Lear jet between houses in Long Island, Santa Fe, and Los Angeles. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
She is not the issue. The 18 Million people who voted for her they are the issue. That said I hope they give her something that pulls those 18 million people to Obama --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:38 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them that Hillary will be Secretary of State. I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
What does standard have to do with it? --- On Mon, 8/25/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:55 AM I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is. Ditto. Anyway, I believe it's standard operating procedure to wait until one actually wins the general election to choose the cabinet. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 9:38 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them that Hillary will be Secretary of State. I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
this is a good technique as long as the person has the money by the time the check is deposited. Once I did that with a guy and he got money but did not pay. We called the bank verified the money was there and took it. He kept saying he did not have money. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:24 PM There's a technique to lending money that works really well to increase the odds of getting repaid. When a person approaches you and asks to borrow, he is usually very upbeat, and cooperative with the terms, and the ' lender ' at that point has maximum leverage. As the potential lender, Ask the following questions: How much money do you need to borrow ? When do you need the money ? When can you repay ? After the borrower answers those three questions, the lender the directs the borrower to write a check to lender, for amount to be loaned, dated the agreed repayment date. Asking for the repayment check upfront as a necessary condition to the loan eliminates having to ' remind ' the borrower of his obligation, and prevents 'misunderstandings' and tremendously minimizes the hassle of lending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot when he was struggling financially. Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!! He never even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and establish himself financialy secure. Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!! Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common. Exactly. I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind of pity party for Louis and all he's been through, and that we were supposed to express our compassion and our admiration of him sticking to his principles throughout it all. Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that those principles don't seem to involve repaying the people who loaned him money or invested in his busi- ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more about sticking to the purity of his vision. Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their rent, or their business schemes that never worked out, or in one case, their women. And they thought of all of these things they spent the money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana, and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what- ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts that need to be respected but money flowing in from the universe -- an expression of support of nature. Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres- sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did not have that much money in the first place, and had to do without a few things himself f*in order to* help them out. Not a penny ever got repaid. And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it. I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I think there is something wrong with it when someone meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends when the scheme goes belly up. Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without clarifying the details of these people who backed him who are now so unevolved as to want their money back. It could be a simple failure of language, and I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I apologize in advance. But the whole schtick in this post was principle, and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one principle that kept getting ignored was *paying back* the people who invested money. If it had been me, I would have gone wherever I could have found work and paid back every penny. *Then* I would have started over on some new plan. That's my definition of commitment, belief, trust, and how to deal with adversity. You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
The guy was a sleeze bag. I dont know what you are thinking. but who said family come before being able to pay back. That is in your head not mine. Timing is my choice as it should be because if I had been of the mind that someone said and just went and got a job and worked to pay them off I would be looking good and taking care of myself. In truth when people say that what they really do is declare bankruptcy. Because in a normal job in a normal life the things that come are more important than the past and the mind does a great job of justification. Better to stick it out and make it work if you really intend to pay. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:42 PM Well, Louis, when he said he didn't have the money, perhaps he was thinking that his family, their shelter, and their food needs competed with the repayment. Did he offer a substantial partial repayment ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is a good technique as long as the person has the money by the time the check is deposited. Once I did that with a guy and he got money but did not pay. We called the bank verified the money was there and took it. He kept saying he did not have money. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:24 PM There's a technique to lending money that works really well to increase the odds of getting repaid. When a person approaches you and asks to borrow, he is usually very upbeat, and cooperative with the terms, and the ' lender ' at that point has maximum leverage. As the potential lender, Ask the following questions: How much money do you need to borrow ? When do you need the money ? When can you repay ? After the borrower answers those three questions, the lender the directs the borrower to write a check to lender, for amount to be loaned, dated the agreed repayment date. Asking for the repayment check upfront as a necessary condition to the loan eliminates having to ' remind ' the borrower of his obligation, and prevents 'misunderstandings' and tremendously minimizes the hassle of lending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot when he was struggling financially. Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!! He never even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and establish himself financialy secure. Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!! Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common. Exactly. I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind of pity party for Louis and all he's been through, and that we were supposed to express our compassion and our admiration of him sticking to his principles throughout it all. Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that those principles don't seem to involve repaying the people who loaned him money or invested in his busi- ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more about sticking to the purity of his vision. Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their rent, or their business schemes that never worked out, or in one case, their women. And they thought of all of these things they spent the money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana, and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what- ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts that need to be respected but money flowing in from the universe -- an expression of support of nature. Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres- sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did not have that much money in the first place, and had to do without a few things himself f*in order to* help them out. Not a penny ever got repaid. And not *one
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus
Nicely put I believe that a lot of the noise is hype. It makes for better entertainment. Conflict sells there are ratings involved and all kinds of things called making entertainment. By Friday Obama will have a great lead over McCain and the clintons will be his greatest supporters. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:57 PM Could someone who lives there please explain America to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far. From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead or one of those other horror movies where a large percentage of the population has become infected with a virus that makes them go crazy. There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying that a third of the people who voted for her are still so pissed off about the way she was treated that they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people who are infected with this virus. They say the same things that we first heard on this forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the virus. Obama should have made the night he won the nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out' to Hillary supporters and show them that they are somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' treatment, as does Hill herself. I rest my case. All six million of these people are completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane. I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick. Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right. She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is even more embarrassing. Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. And she's history *because* of the same virus that has driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are. It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's more dangerous. HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul. It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because of who you are or what you believe. You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus
Actually I think that if Hillary Clinton was Hillary Rodham she would be the VP nominee today.. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:32 PM authfriend wrote: snip Wish I had a nickel--oh, heck, even a penny--for every time during the primary I heard an Obama supporter suggest that *he* deserved the nomination. Now it's being used as the excuse for refusing to make nice with Hillary's supporters. The bottom line is that many people including many Democrats do not like the Clintons. This is not about Hillary being a woman, it is about her being a Clinton. There are some fools that believed that if she were elected we'd get the prosperity of the Clinton years back. Baloney, that was a bubble and it only happened for a sector of the public. Many were left out. The Clintons are machine politicians. For that matter so is Obama but I'd would rather give him a chance than risk it on Hillary. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus
we shall see I hope you are wrong. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:05 PM Hillary and Bill will each speak, primetime, to the Dem convention. Watch for a lukewarm endorsement of Obama from the Clintons, as Hillary and Bill are working for a McCain victory in Novemeber, to set Hillary up for another run in 2012. In ClintonWorld, it's ALL about the Clintons, ALL THE TIME. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone who lives there please explain America to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far. From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead or one of those other horror movies where a large percentage of the population has become infected with a virus that makes them go crazy. There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying that a third of the people who voted for her are still so pissed off about the way she was treated that they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people who are infected with this virus. They say the same things that we first heard on this forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the virus. Obama should have made the night he won the nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out' to Hillary supporters and show them that they are somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' treatment, as does Hill herself. I rest my case. All six million of these people are completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane. I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick. Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right. She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is even more embarrassing. Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. And she's history *because* of the same virus that has driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are. It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's more dangerous. HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul. It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because of who you are or what you believe. You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] TODAY AMERICA
Right now I am so proud to be an American. This is a moment in American History that outshines any other. So many of the great men and women that have gone on to other worlds, are watching from where ever they are in honor and awe as they watch this long awaited moment. The Moment when America realizes its own greatness as a country where ALL men are treated and created EQUAL... No matter what happens from this day forward these four or five days of this 2008 Democratic Convention is monumental. The Entire Democratic Party is watching as this African American Man. A man of mixed race an African and an American white woman made an African American man that will be the next President Of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WOW! For me this is SO BIG! I have fought for this moment. Actually that is a lie. I have fought for equality, I have fought for mayors and councilmen I have fought for recognition of Africa's many gifts to our world. I have fought for equal rights of African Americans at MIU and in the TM Movement. TODAY I AM ELATED that as I have fought for an America where there can truly be equality today I can say that through the Democratic Nomination of Senator Barack Obama as the Presidential Nominee This is absolutely phenomenal. As I watch Caroline Kennedy I think back to her days at Concord Academy where she went to High School in the Seventies, I remember my first girlfriend Jacky Reid who also went to Concord Academy via a scholarship. Well I know that the man who took Caroline's virginity was a man named Les McCann an African American Jazz Musician. I know Caroline is making sure that Barack makes good choices. I remember my days at Columbia University, I remember a guy who liked the same girl as I who would always ask. Everything OK? I knew a guy who took care of people. I did not remember that that guy was Barack Obama. Yet when I realized the timing on our attendance of that University I remembered Sharon Farnum I remembered that she too was on the rowing team. I remembered that he was her Poli Sci TA, I remembered Barry Obama. So for me I AM ELATED THAT THIS AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is going to be the next President of the United States of America. Anyone that does not get what this means to America is just plan old lost. This is not about Democrat or Republican it is about American and Americas greatness at the leading country of the world. We must no longer lag behind South Africa or Venezuela we must show that our UNITED STATES ARE truly UNITED and WHOLE AND READY to be the absolutely great Nation that it is. I TODAY SAY GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS THE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
[FairfieldLife] Today America
Right now I am so proud to be an American. This is a moment in American History that outshines any other. So many of the great men and women that have gone on to other worlds, are watching from where ever they are in honor and awe as they watch this long awaited moment. The Moment when America realizes its own greatness as a country where ALL men are treated and created EQUAL... No matter what happens from this day forward these four or five days of this 2008 Democratic Convention are monumental. The Entire Democratic Party is watching as this African American Man. A man of mixed race an African and an American white woman made an African American man that will be the next President Of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WOW! For me this is SO BIG! I have fought for this moment. Actually that is a lie. I have fought for equality, I have fought for mayors and councilmen I have fought for recognition of Africa's many gifts to our world. I have fought for equal rights of African Americans at MIU and in the TM Movement. TODAY I AM ELATED that as I have fought for an America where there can truly be equality today I can say that through the Democratic Nomination of Senator Barack Obama as the Presidential Nominee This is absolutely phenomenal. As I watch Caroline Kennedy I think back to her days at Concord Academy where she went to High School in the Seventies, I remember my first girlfriend Jacky Reid who also went to Concord Academy via a scholarship. I know that Caroline is definitely one to support Barack, I know she put her whole heart into making sure he got the best running mate possible. I know Caroline is making sure that Barack makes good choices. I remember my days at Columbia University, I remember a guy who liked the same girl as I who would always ask. Everything OK? I knew a guy who took care of people. I did not remember that that guy was Barack Obama. Yet when I realized the timing on our attendance of that University I remembered Sharon Farnum I remembered that she too was on the rowing team. I remembered that he was her Poli Sci TA, I remembered Barry Obama. So for me I AM ELATED THAT THIS AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is going to be the next President of the United States of America. Anyone that does not get what this means to America is just plan old lost. This is not about Democrat or Republican it is about American and Americas greatness at the leading country of the world. We must no longer lag behind South Africa or Venezuela we must show that our UNITED STATES ARE truly UNITED and WHOLE AND READY to be the absolutely great Nation that it is. I TODAY SAY GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS THE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
Re: [FairfieldLife] Teddy, the dim-witted son
I don't know if that is true anymore. Ted Kennedy has done a lot of good in the world since then and I don't know if we really know what happened that day. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Teddy, the dim-witted son To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:40 PM Somehow I don't think that a person who kills a young woman in the depths of the water off of Martha's Vineyard should, out of good conscience, let himself be put forth as a candidate for public office for the rest of his life. Be a little humble. Stay the fuck out of the spotlight. Get on with your life in as much obscurity and silence as you can. You know, like Charles Van Doren did after he was caught cheating on 21. That Ted Kennedy has put himself forward for 40 years and that he continues to be elected is a reflection on the people of MA. Shame on them. The love fest for dear little Teddy being vomited out of my TV as the coverage for the Democratic Convention continues is my fault for not changing the channel. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Today America
thanks Sal I dont make stuff up just took a long time to remember because he was the other guy, --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Today America To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:52 PM On Aug 25, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote: I know Caroline is making sure that Barack makes good choices. I remember my days at Columbia University, I remember a guy who liked the same girl as I who would always ask. Everything OK? I knew a guy who took care of people. I did not remember that that guy was Barack Obama. Yet when I realized the timing on our attendance of that University I remembered Sharon Farnum I remembered that she too was on the rowing team. I remembered that he was her Poli Sci TA, I remembered Barry Obama. Far out, Louis. Even if you're making this up, it sounds great. Sal
