[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread mrsatva
Hi Paul,

I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and
tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder
why none of his students/followers got enlightened and the majority
stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ? I
have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion
about them:

1.  In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone he took
out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth 

2.  Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds of
monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non
(traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to use
to group effects.

TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the
emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread mrsatva
 The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often 
 have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's 
 what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, 
 that the ingredient that one needs for full health is not there? 

In addition we have added flavours witch bring side effects like
loosing your natural taste.

You might well be on to something, perhaps you could suggest how one 
 might re-introduce the missing vitamins, so to speak?

Two year ago my answer would have been: No, no. Just do TM don't do
anything else, could be that your messing up your spiritual growth
with it !!!
Today I thing, every one has to find out himself, do what ever you
feel drawn to (Ill guess that's what you are doing, right?). 
Concerning TM I am not so sure if it is possible to fix it at all.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread mrsatva
  I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and
  tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder
  why none of his students/followers got enlightened 
 
 
 Er, the only published research on enlightened people is rsearch on
TMers

One of this nice TM stories. Herd (and tolled) them many times. During
my TTC I learned witch one not to be used any more because they had
been proven to be not so right….

 and the majority
  stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ?
 
 The vast majority of people stop doing most things that they learn
to do, good or not.

Nobody stops doing things witch they think are worth wile to be done.

  I
  have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion
  about them:
  
  1.  In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone he took
  out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth 

 TM is the most fundamental form of devition possible. EVERYTHING is
sacrificed.

The first think sacrificed is Truth. TM has nothing to do with devotion. 
Your not sacrificing anything, you are running away from everything
 
  2.  Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds of
  monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non
  (traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to use
  to group effects.
  
 
 That was MMY's point about why most other forms of meditation really
do NOT get you 
 enlightened, despite what some people might claim.

But he could not clean up his one technique. What a pity! I loved his
talking (This is mend seriously). 
 
  TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the
  emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!?
 
 Who told you this? Obviously many people here complain about Judy
being to caught up in 
 her emotions, for instance...

Long term TM meditates experience plus meting a lot of TMers.  







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Israel

2006-07-11 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why not stop bombing the  Palestinian villages

  Why not stop bombing the  Israeli villages?
  
 Why not stop bombing  ?
   
 Because if it's one sided, somebody continues to get  bombed.

That means both sides have to stop to stop it !
Maharishi effect obviously dose not exist. What else can be done ?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Israel

2006-07-10 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/9/06 10:47:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
 
 Why not stop bombing the Palestinian  villages
 
  
 Why not stop bombing the Israeli  villages?


Why not stop bombing ?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread mrsatva
Its so beautiful !!!
I got an TMO invitation to join (30 Euro a day for 2 month) and missed
it, thats karma. But I planed a trip to Holland next week so I will
chek it out. 
Oups !
Will invincible Holland allow a non recertified, not anymor prakticing 
foremer Tm Teacher to enter the country ???  
  




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 4/13/06 6:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does that mean everybody now gets free chocolate?
  
 Free chocolate, free sex, free marijuana.
  
   
  
  On Apr 13, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
  
  This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global Family
Chat, Raja
  Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.  Because it has
reached the
  required number of yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland
is now
  enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a rising
star in the
  family of nations.
  
 
  
   Jai Guru Dev 
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: are the TM mantras magical? yes!

2006-03-19 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, definitely in my experience, the TM mantras are magical; 
 compared to ordinary experiences of a material nature; and ordinary
 mantras gotten from a book .  To explain briefly, an other-worldly
 experience would be something totally out of the ordinary, that one
 has not experienced until a certain age.For example, before TM, I
 experimented with a few psychedelic substances: LSD, peyote,
 mescaline...; and found such experiences generated with these to be
 other-worldly in that the sensations wee totally different than
 anything I had experienced until time.
  Similarly, who could imagine that POWER of some type could be
 attached ato a mantra.  That's definitely other-worldly, (but not
 supernatural - just out of the range of ordinary experiences for most
 people).  Thus, it was a new experience and definitely magical.  The
 complementary components of equal importance relate to the use of the
 mantra, especially no hard concentration.
  Though I can't say anybody else's mantra is magical, mine is! I've
 also been initiated into other Traditions (e.g. Ramakrishna) but the
 mantra given to me had little or no discernable power.
  To conclude, the TM mantras from my own experience (and questioning
 others), are powerful by virtue of the magical element of Shakti.
 Mantras given out during my other initiations in other Traditions had
 no power in them.
  Of course, there are other means of transmitting Shakti, as in group
 chanting (which is relatively powerful), and various Shaktipat
 initiations; but the TM mantras appear to be unique in the magical
 connecting link to a word with Shakti. Gurus other than MMY may be
 lesser adepts as this type of transmission.
  The TM mantra is definitely the WORD OF POWER!. That's my experience.



Coul´d it be black magic ?!? 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-08 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva mrsatva@ wrote:
 
The problems many older sidhas have with being in the 
body and/or feeling emotions probably has to do with 
doing long programs for long periods than the basic tm 
technique.
   
   Or with the expression of emotions being considered a 
   no-no by the organization they've been part of for so
   long. The behavior we see around us is very often a
   great deal more formative than the stuff we hear in
   lectures. 
  
  Its even worse. From my TM-siddhi experience, my TMO experiences and
  what I found in other siddhas lives, it seems to me that the siddhi
  technik itself is the problem. It schoots the energy into the had
  (nice talking, intellekt, planing, speech, littel bliss...) and at 
 the
  same time drying out the heart and everything below it.
 
 Do you or they follow a religious teaching that requires/requests you 
 to perform service for others?

Its coled Kult of the field of all possibilitys founded by MMY.
Not me anymore, I am out of it, thanks good and the holy tradition.

 
  
  The no-no is one of the result of that.  
  
And if, as a result, you suppress 
   your emotions long enough, you really don't *want* 
   to feel the body. It feels icky.  :-
 







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[FairfieldLife] Fun !

2006-01-17 Thread mrsatva
Fun, fun, fun

http://www.icq.com/friendship/pages/browse_page_18981.php





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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a fellow in Germany

2006-01-06 Thread mrsatva
 
 If you see, how Bill Gates creates one product after the other, and
uses it
 successfull in the market, than we can assume, that some relative
skill is
 deeply missing in the TMO.

agreed


 In germany, NLP was quite a joke to watch. It was headed by some old
 Nazis, that did their cruel you are no longer in the movement-shit
 again..And when nobody wanted to participate, they send some last
 purusha to beg the lame meditators to pay the yearly fee, so they
had 1.000
 paying uninterested followers at the end.  When it was time for the
 national assembly, no-one appeared (they knew, that those Nazis
would not
 bring in a better show this time...).
 
 With this result, the national assembly of NLP-party was not able and
 allowed to bring in one single decision ! Since this is written in the
 statues, that they are only able to do decicions, when a certain
amount of
 members is present
 
 I was laughing my belly out, is a german quote.
 
 So the german tiger was dead from the beginning. Question was, why
Mr. M.
 still likes these people ? Afraid of some hungry young tiger ?

Since WW2 its a quit bad habbit in germany to call people whom you
dont like Nazis. During discussens peopel like to use it whenn they
 are afraid loosing. I don`t understand why he things that he needs it
for his anti NLP stand. As he pointed out there was enough other stuff
to laugh about.

 Maharishi has just bought a house in Hannover, which is Northern
Germany.
 http://joerg.8m.com/vedas/friedenspalast-hannover.jpg
 
 Is it made for being re-sold years later, or does it have that Northern
 Entrance ?

MMY hade to by it because otherwise nothing would have happend in the
german TMO in 2005. (He also bought another 12 peaces of land. Most of
it usless. In avverage less then 0,4 Euro per squarmeeter.)

Mr Satva






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[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Looking at the $2500 fee
 
 Break down the cost allocations:
 
 Franchise Fee 50%
 SV Facilities 10%
 Office Exp.  Support  5%
 Advertising and PR10%
 Presentation Media 5%
 Health Ins, 401k, ATR 10%
 Travel 5%
 Salary10%

Looking at a 200 Euro fee

Franchise Fee   600 (=10%)
SV Facilities   800
Office Exp.  Support   600
Advertising and PR  500
Presentation Media  500
Health Ins  300
Travel  200
Salary 2500 

total  6000

divided by 30 (initiations) gives a 200 fee. 

Sounds good !  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-04 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Consider these martial arts teachers... Who do you want to learn 
   from, the guy who teaches for free at the cafeteria of the local 
 jr 
   high school in the evenings, or the guy who charges $65/month for 
   group classes at his own studio, and $80/hour for 1 on 1 
 instruction?
   
   Actually, the above are both the same person: when he started 
 out, 
   Augustine Fong taught Wing Chung at Spring Jr. High in the 
 evenings 
   for free. 35 years later, he's got his own school and some of 
 this 
   students have an international reputation (e.g. Danny Chan, who 
 beat 
   the crap out of me in a friendly way when he was 16 at said Jr 
 High 
   School).
  
  
  $80 * 3hours = $240
  
  That sounds to be a fair TM fee. 
  
  Mr Satva
 
 
 Heh. There's no followup program for free from Sifu Fong.

American TMO is giving out somthing for free ?!?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva

 If there's especially difficult periods just after meditation, than 
 the instruction has ALWAYS been (in the last 32 years at least) to 
 take a few minutes extra of silence at the end of practice.


For this you need to know/realise that you are in sutch a period.

And even then, longer resting after meditation/programm can make the
things wors cause you start transcending again.

For me going for a work/ enjoing a good piece of choclate works mutch
better and is more reliebel.
  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
 No, I don't think the TMO overall rude behavior can be
 attributed to stress release. Much of the TMO's
 culture has been set by MMY's behavior and
 directives. Most of us who have been raised in
 democracies and in the USA and Western Europe are used
 to a very different type of cultural zeitgeist than
 the one MMY brings to the TMO.

Thats one part. But what about the littel daily things between the TM
people ? 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva

Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? 
   
   No.
   
Should it be?
   
   In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations
   that profess to teach a pathway to enlightenment should
   be nothing more than big corporations, intent on making
   a profit. 
  
  In my opinion, no. It should not function the way a corporation 
  intent on making a profit funktions but like a corporation intent 
  on selling social goods (social work...). 
 
 Ah, but there is still that word selling in there.  :-)

Why not selling it ?

Mr Satva





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
  Yes there is a lot of talking about Worl Peace and so on. But do
  people REALY talk to each other ? If not, why not ?  
 
 About what? The TMO isn't a religion or philosophy per se. On this 
 newsgroup you have people like Shemp and Judy who are completely 
 opposed to each other on virtually every topic, who both meditate via 
 TM and both believe/hope that it may have some long-term effect for 
 the good of the world. What, other than TM, would Shemp and Judy have 
 to discuss in a non-confrontational way?

Thats fine for FFL. But what about daily TM-center life ?
  
  Does this meen, most tm peoples think that they can reach
  enlightenment without taking care about others and without taking
  responsiballity for theire aktion/nonaktion ?
 
 Nevertheless, the TMO's *teaching* on the subject of charity and all 
 other relative behaviors is that you follow your own 
 religion/conscience on such things. That people may not be doing so 
 suggests that they are being *lazy* aoubt their own religious 
 traditions, not that the TMO is discouraging them from following them.

Mayby that has been the teaching at the beginning of the moovment.
Today there is meditation plus MMY-Ayurveda plus MMY-Yotisch plus
MMY-Jagya plus MMY-Gandharva Ved plus a lott of other MMY-Veda-things.
I dont want to take MMY responsibel for everry of his followers funny
idear/interpretation. But he is aktualy pushing people into somthing
called Vedik culture. Tear down your citty and rebuild it akording
MMY-Stapatha Ved. Thats quite strong culturel enterference! 

  I think it is the other way round. Only this to thinks can bring
  enlightenment.
 
 Define taking responsibility for one's own actions in a way that 
 fits all cultures.

Just commen sence.  
 
Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? 
   
   No.
   
Should it be?
   
   In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations
   that profess to teach a pathway to enlightenment should
   be nothing more than big corporations, intent on making
   a profit. 
  
  In my opinion, no. It should not function the way a corporation 
 intent
  on making a profit funktions but like a corporation intent on 
 selling
  social goods (social work...). 
 
 
 A non-profit organization is every bit as dependent on customers 
 (donors) as a profit-making one. Charities have to advertise their 
 product (good works) in order to keep running. 

Agreed.

Mr Satva






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
 Quite so, but is it the case that the decisions haven't been worthwhile?
 
 Raising the price allows people to take out loans to learn it. That 
 gives it far more legitimacy than if it was taught for $10.

I can`t follow this logik. Pleas explane to me.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
 Not only do I feel the NLP was a complete waste of TM but it 
 whittled away what little credibility the TMO had left.
 
 Look, the NLP being a political party, by definition, had to take 
 political and policy stands on the whole range of issues that affect 
 the societies and countries they ran candidates in: health care, 
 abortion, gun control, capitalism versus socialism, etc. etc.
 
 Once you take positions on all of those things you are, in effect, 
 adopting a philosophy, a way of looking at the world and, indeed, 
 putting yourself at opposition to those in other parties that hold 
 differing views on those matters.
 
 Being a philosophy violates that basic tenet of TM that it is 
 neither a religion or a philosophy.  TM is supposed to be for 
 everybody: capitalists or communists, Democrats or Republicans, Left 
 or Right.  Once you take positions on things, you are bound to piss 
 off those that are on the other side of the spectrum from you.
 
 So when you announce to the world that TM is not a philosophy and 
 then, after holding onto and practising that tenet for 30 years of 
 your existence, abandon it and start BEING a philosophy, people 
 notice.  And you lose credibility.
 
 That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO.  They should 
 NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in 
 the coffin of what was once a great movement.

That is a surprise. It was different germany.
1) NLP was a quite good advertisment campain.
2) TM peopel (especily TM teachers) realised that the language they
were speaking coulnd`t be understood by most of the non-TM-peopel. 
  
Probabbly because we did not take anny political and policy stands.
Messeg was TM and no gmo food thats all.

 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
  Why not selling it ?
 
 You're asking the wrong question. The TM organization
 by now has earned more money than God by selling
 its products and services. The question is *not* Why
 not sell it? but Why not give it away, if you *really*
 care about the people of the world and think TM will
 help them?

Two reasons:
1. If somthing is for free, it has no value.
2. If the peopel selling it can sustain their living with it they put
more effort in it. 

Initiation fee of 2500,- is one of MMY`s bad Jokes. 200,- would be OK.
90% for the teacher, 5% for TMO national and 5% for TMO nternatinal.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   If there's especially difficult periods just after meditation, than 
   the instruction has ALWAYS been (in the last 32 years at least) to 
   take a few minutes extra of silence at the end of practice.
  
  
  For this you need to know/realise that you are in sutch a period.
 
 So take, an extra minute or 3 on general principle.
 
  
  And even then, longer resting after meditation/programm can make the
  things wors cause you start transcending again.
  
 
 Do a little stretching and body shifting during those extra rest 
 poeriods  when you don't have clear awareness that you might be 
 unstressing.
 
  For me going for a work/ enjoing a good piece of choclate works mutch
  better and is more reliebel.
 
 
 Chocolate is good, but so is not having too many calories...

This is what we learned during ouer TM course, siddhi cours and TTC.
Why is it that peopel cant put it into praktice ?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
 Thats downright ridicelous. Maharishi gave the world an opportunity 
 to respond to that beautiful knowledge of management. 
 It did not, and He closed the whole thing.
 
 Most people here and elsewhere are not even close to understand that 
 Maharishi is way, way ahead of the collective consciousness. His 
 plans are on a scale of infinity. But nobody can honestly say He is 
 not trying. Unfortunatele His knowledge seems, at this time, to fall 
 on the hard rocks of ignorance.

If it is so, then he must be a really bad Farmer.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
 Consider these martial arts teachers... Who do you want to learn 
 from, the guy who teaches for free at the cafeteria of the local jr 
 high school in the evenings, or the guy who charges $65/month for 
 group classes at his own studio, and $80/hour for 1 on 1 instruction?
 
 Actually, the above are both the same person: when he started out, 
 Augustine Fong taught Wing Chung at Spring Jr. High in the evenings 
 for free. 35 years later, he's got his own school and some of this 
 students have an international reputation (e.g. Danny Chan, who beat 
 the crap out of me in a friendly way when he was 16 at said Jr High 
 School).


$80 * 3hours = $240

That sounds to be a fair TM fee. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
Seem to me that I couldn´t bring up my points clear enough. Don´t
understand your answers at al. Thanks for trying.
Mr Satva



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Yes there is a lot of talking about Worl Peace and so on. But do
people REALY talk to each other ? If not, why not ?  
   
   About what? The TMO isn't a religion or philosophy per se. On 
 this 
   newsgroup you have people like Shemp and Judy who are completely 
   opposed to each other on virtually every topic, who both meditate 
 via 
   TM and both believe/hope that it may have some long-term effect 
 for 
   the good of the world. What, other than TM, would Shemp and Judy 
 have 
   to discuss in a non-confrontational way?
  
  Thats fine for FFL. But what about daily TM-center life ?
 
 What about them? Since the formal on-topic discussions at the TM-
 center are always about TM and related stuff, no problem, eh?
Does this meen, most tm peoples think that they can reach
enlightenment without taking care about others and without 
 taking
responsiballity for theire aktion/nonaktion ?
   
   Nevertheless, the TMO's *teaching* on the subject of charity and 
 all 
   other relative behaviors is that you follow your own 
   religion/conscience on such things. That people may not be doing 
 so 
   suggests that they are being *lazy* aoubt their own religious 
   traditions, not that the TMO is discouraging them from following 
 them.
  
  Mayby that has been the teaching at the beginning of the moovment.
  Today there is meditation plus MMY-Ayurveda plus MMY-Yotisch plus
  MMY-Jagya plus MMY-Gandharva Ved plus a lott of other MMY-Veda-
 things.
  I dont want to take MMY responsibel for everry of his followers 
 funny
  idear/interpretation. But he is aktualy pushing people into somthing
  called Vedik culture. Tear down your citty and rebuild it 
 akording
  MMY-Stapatha Ved. Thats quite strong culturel enterference! 
  
 
 
 Sure, but its non-demonimational. Applies to all of India as well.
 
I think it is the other way round. Only this to thinks can bring
enlightenment.
   
   Define taking responsibility for one's own actions in a way 
 that 
   fits all cultures.
  
  Just commen sence.  
 
 Rght. And you're familiar with every culture, including ones that 
 revere lying and deception towards outsiders?
 
   
  Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? 
 
 No.
 
  Should it be?
 
 In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations
 that profess to teach a pathway to enlightenment should
 be nothing more than big corporations, intent on making
 a profit. 

In my opinion, no. It should not function the way a corporation 
   intent
on making a profit funktions but like a corporation intent on 
   selling
social goods (social work...). 
   
   
   A non-profit organization is every bit as dependent on customers 
   (donors) as a profit-making one. Charities have to advertise 
 their 
   product (good works) in order to keep running. 
  
  Agreed.
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread mrsatva
 For some reason, I felt like writing this as a series of questions.
I think
 each question could be answered with examples both pro and con, so
we would
 have to look at what the predominant tendency has been. 



Because of my limited english skill, answering on this post would take
me houers. Thats why I will put short comments into the answers others
gave to your questions.

Your right. Analysing this topik would need at leest 600 sientifical
reserches. And even then, would that be helpfull to annyone ?  

Do you think the majority of the day to day heartless behavior can
be explaned by stress releese ? (Not talking about MMY, Beven...,
talking about normal meditators, siddhas, teachers)
I observed that for many people the 30 minutes after programm are
especially diffikult.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread mrsatva
 Yup. It's a movement full of people who care more
 about talking the talk than they do walking the 
 walk. In fact, there is no perceived *value* in
 walking the walk, whereas there is for talking
 the talk. Good talkers get promoted into the
 movement hierarchy, whereas those who actually
 live quietly according to generally-accepted 
 spiritual precepts get ignored or are cast off.

Yes there is a lot of talking about Worl Peace and so on. But do
people REALY talk to each other ? If not, why not ?  
 
  I wonder how the TMO compares with other spiritual movements 
  in terms of this problem. 

 (...)  *many* other things
 become considered secondary, or not terribly
 important. Some of those secondary other things
 can include treating people with a basic sense of
 civility and respect, taking personal responsibility 
 for one's actions, living up to responsibilities 
 that have been assigned to you, etc.  
 (...) the reason for this is that the predominant 
 myth in the TMO is the importance of one's personal 
 enlightenment (...)
terms of social interaction.
 
Does this meen, most tm peoples think that they can reach
enlightenment without taking care about others and without taking
responsiballity for theire aktion/nonaktion ?
I think it is the other way round. Only this to thinks can bring
enlightenment.
  

  Maharishi has given plenty of lip service to speak 
  the sweet truth and the world is my family, but
  does he treat the people around him that way 
 
 No way.
 
  ...and does he inspire his followers to do the same? 
 
 No way.
 
  If so, is his inspiration explicit or by example?
 
 By example is ALWAYS what wins. Maharishi could talk
 and talk and talk forever about how strongly he feels
 about humanity as a whole. But then he turns around
 and ACTS in a manner that indicates he couldn't care
 less about humanity as a whole, and in fact has almost
 no sense of loyalty to those who have served him for
 years as TM teachers. Given the dichotomy between what
 is said and what is done, the lesson being picked
 up by most students as this is the way an enlightened
 being acts is what is DONE, not what is said.

Is it possible to teach enlightenment by example ?
 

  Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? 
 
 No.
 
  Should it be?
 
 In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations
 that profess to teach a pathway to enlightenment should
 be nothing more than big corporations, intent on making
 a profit. 

In my opinion, no. It should not function the way a corporation intent
on making a profit funktions but like a corporation intent on selling
social goods (social work...). 
   
Mr Satva





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-01 Thread mrsatva
 
 Because it got too weird for people, or what ?

Probebly all the reasons why people are leaving the TMO...

I have been thinking about it for quit some time now and I thing the
main reasons are to many scratches in the heart. 
One of the biggest TMO problems: the way people treat eatch other. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2005-12-31 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 12/31/05 6:28 AM, Ron F at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It is not my wish. With the grace of Guru Dev, with the grace of
the Vedic
  tradition the eternal light of the constitution of the world is
being brought
  to
  the human awareness now and I have counted these very important
countries in
  the
  world Switzerland, Denmark, Germany, Holland to be rising in
dignity and
  shaking
  off the slavery to foreign powers.
 
 Maharishi likes Germany now? He's been bashing Germany for years.





1 heartles, dismanaging Raja,
8 TM teachers,
some tbs,
that`s the Germen TMO today.
Nothing left to be angry about !

Mr Satva





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2005-12-31 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 12/31/05 2:23 PM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Rajas Name: Schiffgens
  He and his verry,verry close male friend paticipated in the raja
  training but havend been cround jet.
 
 The world's first gay rajas, huh? 
You think the purusha Rajas are not gay ?
I thougt 90% of Purushas are ? 

Why haven't they been crowned?
No one knowes, but all possibel rumors available.


  This year MMY worned the german TM teachers at least two times that,
  if they dont reakt on his colls, he is closing the germen TMO.
 
 By react do you mean he wants them to do the things he asks them
to do?

Yes, he and his representetives called more then 3 times serching for
 volunters.   
 
  But we
  are getting jused to been damed and cheered two times a Year.
 
 Makes you flexible. Sometimes I'll blow warm winds your way,
sometimes I'll
 blow cold winds, and in the end you'll be weatherproof. - Maharishi


In my case it worked verry well. But over the last 3 years we lost
many really good peopels. I feel sorry about it. 

Mr Satva





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2005-12-31 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 12/31/05 3:03 PM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  The world's first gay rajas, huh?
  You think the purusha Rajas are not gay ?
  I thougt 90% of Purushas are ?
 
 Some are, but I don't think the percentage is much higher than the
national
 average.

Cant say it for the world Purusha, but in the German/Europen its over
average(20-30%).

  
  In my case it worked verry well. But over the last 3 years we lost
  many really good peopels. I feel sorry about it.
 
 Were you exaggerating about the tiny number of people remaining in the
 German movement?
Depends on the defenition of in the movement.
1)There have ben 80 Teachers on the rezi cors, about 8 are teaching at
the moment. 
2)Two years ago you could find 50-60 peoples in the groupe praktice,
know its 5-10.
3)Manny of our good peopels disepeard. Not officily leaving the TMO,
but not aktiv annymor.  
 
In Europe its time to party now (23:20 Uhr). 
Blissfull new year Mr. Archer,
blissfull new year everybody.

See you some houers later

Mr Satva






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM

2005-12-10 Thread mrsatva


And Bush the second gone beat them all. Just give him some more time.
I am quite happy that the german government is to weak to mes up like
this (today). Well at least we provide some of the best equipment for
wars etc...

Mr Satva  


- What's wrong with this guy's spelling?
  He is german, trying his best. Don´t wast time thinking about it...
- This message isn´t ment to offend annybody.
- This message isn´t ment 100% seriously. 
Mr Satva 
 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   on 12/3/05 2:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:

I wouldn't askyou to doubt a friend, but I DO ask
   you to wonder why
they bother talking about it to you? Is it the
   thrill of revealing
they slept with a celebrity? Or is it bitterness
   and remorse? Or what?

Do your female friends normally talk about people
   they slept with
decades ago?
   
   Actually, they're quite private, even secretive.
   Maharishi isn't people.
  
  When Rick initiated me in 1972, as I came out of my
  first meditation, I think he made a pass at me. There
  was a flash of arms and a beard...no, it must have
  been an LSD flashback. Never mind.
 
 No, I believe you Dr. Pete. I am starting a website to promote this 
 cause. The world needs to know about Rick and his 'spiritual incest'.
 
 OffWorld


You are absolutly right !!! 

Especily because I med Dr. Peter the day after his Initiation in that
pub in Ireland and at that time the storry sounded mutch wors.

I´ll gone send you a coppy. The world needs to know !!!

Mr. Satva 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FRENCHISMS

2005-11-26 Thread mrsatva
 I don't normally send these kind of things to the list but  thought
it too funny not to share. Enjoy!


H
As I german I am wondering.
Do amerikans rate countrys akording theire viktorys in battel ?
Without considering if they started it ?

At least this would explain Bushs politiks...

Kung-Fu master quote: Never start a fight, but always win it.
   (Somthing like that..)

PEACE
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[FairfieldLife] Barbara Brennans way off ennergy healing

2005-11-20 Thread mrsatva


A friend of mine is lerning Barbara Brennans way off ennergy healing.
Annyone experiences with that ? 

For over 20 years, Dr. Barbara Brennan has operated a highly
respected healing school in the United States that is dedicated to the
evolution of the human spirit through education, healing and world
service.

http://www.barbarabrennan.com/home.html

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