> > I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and
> > tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder
> > why none of his students/followers got enlightened 
> 
> 
> Er, the only published research on enlightened people is rsearch on
TMers....

One of this nice TM stories. Herd (and tolled) them many times. During
my TTC I learned witch one not to be used any more because they had
been proven to be not so rightÂ….

> and the majority
> > stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ?
> 
> The vast majority of people stop doing most things that they learn
to do, good or not.

Nobody stops doing things witch they think are worth wile to be done.

>  I
> > have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion
> > about them:
> > 
> > 1.  In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone he took
> > out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth 

> TM is the most fundamental form of devition possible. EVERYTHING is
sacrificed.

The first think sacrificed is Truth. TM has nothing to do with devotion. 
Your not sacrificing anything, you are running away from everything
 
> > 2.  Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds of
> > monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non
> > (traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to use
> > to group effects.
> > 
> 
> That was MMY's point about why most other forms of meditation really
do NOT get you 
> enlightened, despite what some people might claim.

But he could not clean up his one technique. What a pity! I loved his
talking (This is mend seriously). 
 
> > TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the
> > emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!?
> 
> Who told you this? Obviously many people here complain about Judy
being to caught up in 
> her emotions, for instance...

Long term TM meditates experience plus meting a lot of TMers.  







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