Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-08 Thread Share Long 
turq, maybe it's your older, wiser self saying: If your older, wiser self had 
thought there was anything it just *had* to 
offer you advice on, doncha think it might have done it by now?




On Saturday, December 7, 2013 4:45 PM, TurquoiseB  wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> As your rules don't allow one to change the future, I wouldn't want to go 
> back and meet an earlier version of myself. Not being able to offer advice or 
> change the odds behind the scenes would be cruel. 
> 
>  "If youth only knew: if age only could." - Henri Estienne (1470 - 1520)

I replay one of the silly graphics I posted earlier. 

If your older, wiser self had thought there was anything it just *had* to offer 
you advice on, doncha think it might have done it by now?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread Richard J. Williams 
Not sure who is writing what in this thread, what with all the blue text 
and mixed type faces. Go figure.


But, In my opinion, if you get listed in almost any top 100 Best of All 
Time, you're pretty damn good!


According to Rolling Stone Magazine, The Doors are ranked number 41 on 
their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time; Jim Morrison was 
ranked number 47 on 100 Greatest Singers of All Time; Robby Krieger is 
listed as number 91 on the 100 greatest guitarists of all time; Light My 
Fire, written by Robby Krieger, is ranked number 35 on 500 Greatest 
Songs of All Time. Pretty impressive!


On 12/7/2013 3:42 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


I followed the Jim link. So you have touched the flesh of a demi-god!

Rock gigs in those days could be pretty violent places. Too much 
testosterone, booze and drugs.


Re: "As an afterthought, The Doors were *by far* the worst band of the 
era. Ray Manzarek could play an acceptable keyboard combo . . . but 
Robbie could barely play his guitar. He had to work out all of his 
parts beforehand . . . The drummer was adequate, but barely. They had 
risen to fame based only on Morrison's image and his bad songwriting.":


The songs on the first two LPs were special. OK, "When the Music's 
Over" and ""The End"  were a bit overwrought but the other tracks 
stand up well today. "End of the Night" still gives me goose bumps.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjY3nfvkJ0Y

Manzarek also did some decent work as a producer with LA punk band "X".

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread s3raphita 
Curiously, I didn't become aware of him until his son Jeff became popular. I 
don't know why I missed him - the trouble is there was just too much good music 
around during that period and you were spoilt for choice.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> As your rules don't allow one to change the future, I wouldn't want to
go back and meet an earlier version of myself. Not being able to offer
advice or change the odds behind the scenes would be cruel.
>
>  "If youth only knew: if age only could." - Henri Estienne (1470 -
1520)

I replay one of the silly graphics I posted earlier.

If your older, wiser self had thought there was anything it just *had*
to offer you advice on, doncha think it might have done it by now?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread s3raphita 
As your rules don't allow one to change the future, I wouldn't want to go back 
and meet an earlier version of myself. Not being able to offer advice or change 
the odds behind the scenes would be cruel.
 

 "If youth only knew: if age only could." - Henri Estienne (1470 - 1520)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:
> >
> >  The songs on the first two LPs were special. OK, "When the
> > Music's Over" and ""The End"  were a bit overwrought but
> > the other tracks stand up well today. "End of the Night"
> > still gives me goose bumps.
>
> You'd like a coffeehouse in Amsterdam (yeah...that kind of
coffeehouse)
> called The Doors Cafe. "All Doors, all the time." Really. That's all
> they play, non-stop, nearly 24/7, to throngs of stoned-out Doors
> fanatics.  :-)

Here's a question for you, since you seem *incredibly* knowledgeable
about American Hippie Era Music for a Brit. Did you ever get into Tim
Buckley?

I saw Tim a number of times before he burned out, and I think he was a
real phenomenon. What reminded me of him was the discussion about Jim
Morrison. I've always seen them (possibly because I saw both of them
perform live a few times each) as kinda mirror images of each other.

Both waxed poetic. They didn't talk -- in their everyday speech or in
their songs -- the way that other people talked. Both of them were also
almost jazzy in their onstage performances, allowing the feelings of the
moment to dictate where and to what song and in what key they went next.
But, on the whole, and IMO, Jim seemed to follow the promptings of his
dark side in those performances, and Tim tried his best to steer things
to more "up" images and lyrics.

Interesting, in retrospect, that both of them wound up sacrificing
themselves on the altar of drugs. Here -- in keeping with spending my
day delving back into past incarnations watching "Labyrinth" -- is one
of my all-time favorites of his, one of the loveliest songs I know of
written about multi-incarnational love.

  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0f5_rz4u4

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:
>
>  The songs on the first two LPs were special. OK, "When the Music's
Over" and ""The End"  were a bit overwrought but the other tracks stand
up well today. "End of the Night" still gives me goose bumps.

You'd like a coffeehouse in Amsterdam (yeah...that kind of coffeehouse)
called The Doors Cafe. "All Doors, all the time." Really. That's all
they play, non-stop, nearly 24/7, to throngs of stoned-out Doors
fanatics.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread s3raphita 


 I followed the Jim link. So you have touched the flesh of a demi-god!
 

 Rock gigs in those days could be pretty violent places. Too much testosterone, 
booze and drugs.
 

 Re: "As an afterthought, The Doors were *by far* the worst band of the era. 
Ray Manzarek could play an acceptable keyboard combo . . . but Robbie could 
barely play his guitar. He had to work out all of his parts beforehand . . . 
The drummer was adequate, but barely. They had risen to fame based only on 
Morrison's image and his bad songwriting.":

 

 The songs on the first two LPs were special. OK, "When the Music's Over" and 
""The End"  were a bit overwrought but the other tracks stand up well today. 
"End of the Night" still gives me goose bumps.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjY3nfvkJ0Y 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjY3nfvkJ0Y

 

 Manzarek also did some decent work as a producer with LA punk band "X".

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I wrote:
>
> Even punched out Jim Morrison once

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita replies:
>
>  Care to elaborate?

So as not to tell the same story again, here's a link to a conversation
with Curtis in which I told the story earlier. The "back story" of how I
wound up telling the Jim Morrison story starts towards the bottom, but
the Jim story is towards the end of the topmost post.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/306104

[FairfieldLife] RE: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread s3raphita 
Even punched out Jim Morrison once

 

 Care to elaborate?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread Share Long 
I would have liked to have been present when Diotima taught Socrates everything 
he knew about love. But of course, with all the modern conveniences!





On Saturday, December 7, 2013 2:32 PM, TurquoiseB  wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808  wrote:
>
> Just one place? Aw, how could I choose between Mesopotamia during the heyday 
> of Babylon and the late Mesozoic in North America? All those Triceratops and 
> Velociraptors! That hanging gardens! I am allowed to take my camera right? 

Actually, no, you're not. Since I made up the rules for this exercise, I get to 
make up this one. You DO get to come back to the place/time you started from. 
But while you're gone, no cameras, no video, no recording devices of any kind. 
When you DO come back, all that you have to convince anyone else of where/when 
you were and what you experienced there is your own word, your own ability to 
tell the story of your experience. 

I think that's fair. That's what witnessing siddhis is like.  :-)

>  Ok, how about Israel about 40,000 years ago, we could sit on a hill and 
> watch the first human beings walk out of Africa. And if they're late we could 
> do a bit of snorkelling. 

That's good, a moment worth being there for.  

>  Or we could go forward a few million years and see what the human race turns 
> into. Or not. 

I may be the guy making up the rules, but even I haven't figured out what 
happens if you time-travel to another time and there's no there there. :-)

>  And the pyramids in Egypt just after they were finished, all shiny white 
> limestone and a nice gold cap on top, must been rather impressive. 
> 
>  Rome during the time of Cicero. 
> 
>  See the Doors at the Whisky a go go in '67. 


Been there, done that. :-) Even punched out Jim Morrison once, but that wasn't 
at the Whisky. 

>  Tell Van Gogh he'll be popular one day, honest. 

Ha. I read your post *after* reading and replying to s3raphita's earlier, and 
mentioning wanting to go back to Paris during the Belle Epoche and be Van 
Gogh's patron. Synchronicity, dude.  :-)

>  Find out what stonehenge was actually for. 

What if it was an ornamental outhouse?  :-)

>  But you can tell I never get hold of a time machine because I would have 
> gone here: 
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/02/stephen-hawking-time-travel_n_1643488.html
>   

Maybe you did, but I went back later and chatted up Hawking the whole time so 
he never saw you. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808  wrote:
>
> Just one place? Aw, how could I choose between Mesopotamia during the
heyday of Babylon and the late Mesozoic in North America? All those
Triceratops and Velociraptors! That hanging gardens! I am allowed to
take my camera right?

Actually, no, you're not. Since I made up the rules for this exercise, I
get to make up this one. You DO get to come back to the place/time you
started from. But while you're gone, no cameras, no video, no recording
devices of any kind. When you DO come back, all that you have to
convince anyone else of where/when you were and what you experienced
there is your own word, your own ability to tell the story of your
experience.

I think that's fair. That's what witnessing siddhis is like.  :-)

>  Ok, how about Israel about 40,000 years ago, we could sit on a hill
and watch the first human beings walk out of Africa. And if they're late
we could do a bit of snorkelling.

That's good, a moment worth being there for.

>  Or we could go forward a few million years and see what the human
race turns into. Or not.

I may be the guy making up the rules, but even I haven't figured out
what happens if you time-travel to another time and there's no there
there. :-)

>  And the pyramids in Egypt just after they were finished, all shiny
white limestone and a nice gold cap on top, must been rather impressive.
>
>  Rome during the time of Cicero.
>
>  See the Doors at the Whisky a go go in '67.


Been there, done that. :-) Even punched out Jim Morrison once, but that
wasn't at the Whisky.

>  Tell Van Gogh he'll be popular one day, honest.

Ha. I read your post *after* reading and replying to s3raphita's
earlier, and mentioning wanting to go back to Paris during the Belle
Epoche and be Van Gogh's patron. Synchronicity, dude.  :-)

>  Find out what stonehenge was actually for.

What if it was an ornamental outhouse?  :-)

>  But you can tell I never get hold of a time machine because I would
have gone here:
>
> 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/02/stephen-hawking-time-travel_n\
_1643488.html


Maybe you did, but I went back later and chatted up Hawking the whole
time so he never saw you. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I'm assuming I have a return ticket? If not forget it; I couldn't bear
to live somewhere without modern bathrooms.

Ha. LOL. That's honest. I could toy with the idea of time-traveling back
to the Middle Ages, but I know enough about the period to know what it
*smelled like*. No plumbing, nary a deodorant in sight, and people never
bathed.

>  I might go for the Crucifixion of a first-century rabbi - and stick
around the tomb over the next few days to see if I noticed anything odd.
>
>  A previous suggestion of the pyramids in Egypt just after they were
finished would be close to the top of my preferences.

I could probably get off on going back to Paris during the period Chris
Moore wrote about in "Sacre Bleu." I'd become what he got to be in his
imagination writing the novel -- a time-traveling mecene (patron of the
arts), supporting painters like Van Gogh and Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec,
just so you could occasionally watch them paint. And party with them, of
course.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread s3raphita 
I'm assuming I have a return ticket? If not forget it; I couldn't bear to live 
somewhere without modern bathrooms.
 

 I might go for the Crucifixion of a first-century rabbi - and stick around the 
tomb over the next few days to see if I noticed anything odd.
 

 A previous suggestion of the pyramids in Egypt just after they were finished 
would be close to the top of my preferences.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread Richard J. Williams 
Emily - It looks like the beginning of the end for Yahoo. You've got 
mail - problems. Go figure - three days. Maybe it's time to switch to 
Google Mail. It works for me.


We're experiencing some technical difficulties...

http://downdetector.com/status/yahoo-mail

'Yahoo users outraged over redesign'
http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/youve-got-mail-problems-yahoo-users-outraged-over-redesign/

On 12/7/2013 11:58 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:


Yahoo is losing my posts.  Maybe it will show up later.  Second. Try. 
 I like the period thing, period!  Salvayin, this was too funny.  To 
repeat, "Too late now, and now, and now, and now."

[FairfieldLife] RE: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread emilymaenot 
Yahoo is losing my posts.  Maybe it will show up later.  Second. Try.  I like 
the period thing, period!  Salvayin, this was too funny.  To repeat, "Too late 
now, and now, and now, and now."

[FairfieldLife] RE: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread salyavin808 
Just one place? Aw, how could I choose between Mesopotamia during the heyday of 
Babylon and the late Mesozoic in North America? All those Triceratops and 
Velociraptors! That hanging gardens! I am allowed to take my camera right?
 

 Ok, how about Israel about 40,000 years ago, we could sit on a hill and watch 
the first human beings walk out of Africa. And if they're late we could do a 
bit of snorkelling.
 

 Or we could go forward a few million years and see what the human race turns 
into. Or not.
 

 And the pyramids in Egypt just after they were finished, all shiny white 
limestone and a nice gold cap on top, must been rather impressive.
 

 Rome during the time of Cicero.
 

 See the Doors at the Whisky a go go in '67.
 

 Tell Van Gogh he'll be popular one day, honest.
 

 Find out what stonehenge was actually for.
 

 But you can tell I never get hold of a time machine because I would have gone 
here:
 

 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/02/stephen-hawking-time-travel_n_1643488.html
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/02/stephen-hawking-time-travel_n_1643488.html

 

 Too late now

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

2013-12-07 Thread TurquoiseB 
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