[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Standard Cosmological Model
Although this video was published in 2015, this is the first time that I've seen this. Dr. Leonard Susskind was apparently trying out his new ideas about cosmology. It may take a few more years to find out how his ideas will be accepted by the scientific community. Does anyone have any feedback about Susskind's proposal?
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Planck, John Hagelin on Entanglements, Worm Holes and the Brain
Not physical, as if birth and death are not physical? Souls are proly just measurable in experience by tools at this point such as nervous systems at less than the planck but I feel based on my own research and data that even the physical scientific community will evolve and find that their souls are entangled existing in or as a simultaneity both here embodied in a portion experiencing life in this realm as mortal dimension while also (simultaneously) existing in some larger portion at the same moment elsewhere. Like an over-soul dipping its toe in to life using the life of a human nervous system. Is marvelous really. Physical scientists will like it when they find it. Even Hagelin in his mortal coil as he sits with it more. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Doug, Physicists are in the business of studying natural phenomena and typically stay away from philosophical and spiritual arguments. But as they delve deeper into the subatomic particles, they are realizing that they may not have the technology to measure particles near or below the Planck length. The best thing that they have now is to have the String Theory or variation thereof to explain the theoretical dynamics of the immeasurable realm. But Hagelin is now carrying the torch that MMY was trying to prove to the world-- that the world is based on consciousness. He may or may not succeed in this endeavor. IMO, conservative physicists will most likely make a statement saying that particles below a certain length cannot be measured and thus are out of bounds for further study to uphold the scientific method. As discussed in the video, scientists have made similar statements in the study of quantum entanglements. Specifically,they are trying to uphold Einstein's theory that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. As such, they are saying that entangled particles cannot be used to send messages across vast distances in the universe. But, at the same time, they are saying that entangled particles simultaneously affect each other over vast distances in the universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Good video, jr. Thanks. But, how does physics explain what evidently is of a divine construct as soul(s) in the life of human beings? Does physics have much to say about the incarnational implications of such energetic light-body structure within the human form as souls? What does physics say of Divine virtues in energetic vector, such as love exhibited as given and experienced? Souls, jivans, or virtues as vibrational form.. these kind of larger spirituality seems a little different than just calculating saying a Pure Consciousness as Transcendental Consciousness is the Unified Field. The Upanishads say quite a lot about Souls in life. TM and Maharishi had not much to say about souls. What does physics navigate about this practical aspect of imperishable souls in life, while we have life to live? Do physicists talk more particularly about this, or do they not have much experience with it? Just wondering, -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is a fairly new presentation with updates on the current developments in physics. I'm not sure if the audience actually understood what he was saying--or even the watchers of this video. Entanglement, Space-Time Wormholes, and the Brain - John Hagelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk Entanglement, Space-Time Wormholes, and the Brain -... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk We present an extraordinary breakthrough from String theory that explains the “spooky action-at-a-distance” nature of quantum entanglement, and ties this lon... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
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Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically an alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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His beer-belly is the only result of his tantra practise :-) Did you know he used to call himself uncle-tantra ? HaHa, what a clown. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically an alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them. Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology.
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Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
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Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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It is OK, Ann. When Barry is accused of being sadistic, he takes it to heart. He enjoys hurting others, as his own inner pain never stops. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them. Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology.
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LOL - last words on his deathbed, I hate you all ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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It is a very strange thing, how we revere our bodies, and not others. I was watching the odd crime show (Alaska State Troopers, I think), and the cops were pulling a severed leg out of a trash bag. All of us watching were completely horrified. Then it turned our to be the leg of a bear, and we all relaxed a bit. Note: I am not making the case for modifying our diet! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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Wow, turq! A new low for FFL... From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them. #yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891 -- #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp #yiv2147916891hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp #yiv2147916891ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp .yiv2147916891ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp .yiv2147916891ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-mkp .yiv2147916891ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-sponsor #yiv2147916891ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-sponsor #yiv2147916891ygrp-lc #yiv2147916891hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891ygrp-sponsor #yiv2147916891ygrp-lc .yiv2147916891ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891activity span .yiv2147916891underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 dd.yiv2147916891last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2147916891 dd.yiv2147916891last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2147916891 dd.yiv2147916891last p span.yiv2147916891yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891file-title a, #yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891file-title a:active, #yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891file-title a:hover, #yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891photo-title a, #yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891photo-title a:active, #yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891photo-title a:hover, #yiv2147916891 div.yiv2147916891photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2147916891 div#yiv2147916891ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2147916891ygrp-msg p a span.yiv2147916891yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv2147916891 .yiv2147916891MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv2147916891 o {font-size:0;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv2147916891 #yiv2147916891reco
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Yep. We have all moved on with our lives. But Barry cozied up to a sociopath, and has not yet recovered. So as the rest of us make our way, sharing our successes, regarding career, family, and friends, all this putz can do, is slump down in his seat, uncork a bottle, and shout fuck you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Wow, turq! A new low for FFL... From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. Yes, but you also get mad cow disease from, er, cows and plenty of people eat those, although I give them a miss. I prefer to see them alive and eating grass or nursing their calves. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? I'd have to say, any argument for cannibalism, other than if you were, perhaps, starving on a mountainside after your plane had crashed in the freezing cold and your dinner was already dead, pretty much couldn't convince me it was a good thing to do for a whole lot of reasons. Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something? With a heavy metal chaser. Now that we know that Nabby idolizes those who practice cannibalism, does this mean that we should look askance at him shilling for the aliens he calls the Space Brothers? Could he just be their advance man, trying to talk people into trusting them so that the aliens can eat them? Perhaps the real reason that Nabby and Benjamin Creme are so taken with these Space Brothers is that they've been promised some leftovers. Images from Nabby's childhood, or his dreams? Curious minds want to know... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. #yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942 -- #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp #yiv1659513942hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp #yiv1659513942ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp .yiv1659513942ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp .yiv1659513942ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-mkp .yiv1659513942ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-sponsor #yiv1659513942ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-sponsor #yiv1659513942ygrp-lc #yiv1659513942hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1659513942 #yiv1659513942ygrp-sponsor #yiv1659513942ygrp-lc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-) #yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186 -- #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp #yiv5823862186hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp #yiv5823862186ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp .yiv5823862186ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp .yiv5823862186ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mkp .yiv5823862186ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-sponsor #yiv5823862186ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-sponsor #yiv5823862186ygrp-lc #yiv5823862186hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-sponsor #yiv5823862186ygrp-lc .yiv5823862186ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186activity span .yiv5823862186underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 dd.yiv5823862186last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5823862186 dd.yiv5823862186last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5823862186 dd.yiv5823862186last p span.yiv5823862186yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186file-title a, #yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186file-title a:active, #yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186file-title a:hover, #yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186photo-title a, #yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186photo-title a:active, #yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186photo-title a:hover, #yiv5823862186 div.yiv5823862186photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5823862186 div#yiv5823862186ygrp-mlmsg #yiv5823862186ygrp-msg p a span.yiv5823862186yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv5823862186 o {font-size:0;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv5823862186 .yiv5823862186replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv5823862186 input, #yiv5823862186 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv5823862186 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv5823862186 #yiv5823862186ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Nappy doesn't give a damn about any of that - anyone who claims to be a holy man and does weird shit is aces in Nappy's book - maybe the same book he has on his shelf right next to his well worn copies of Mein Kampf and Marshy's Gita From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. #yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022 -- #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp #yiv6794050022hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp #yiv6794050022ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp .yiv6794050022ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp .yiv6794050022ad p {margin:0;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-mkp .yiv6794050022ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-sponsor #yiv6794050022ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-sponsor #yiv6794050022ygrp-lc #yiv6794050022hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022ygrp-sponsor #yiv6794050022ygrp-lc .yiv6794050022ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6794050022 #yiv6794050022actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6794050022
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Nabby's probably planning to eat me. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-) #yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076 -- #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp #yiv4019740076hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp #yiv4019740076ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp .yiv4019740076ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp .yiv4019740076ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mkp .yiv4019740076ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-sponsor #yiv4019740076ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-sponsor #yiv4019740076ygrp-lc #yiv4019740076hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-sponsor #yiv4019740076ygrp-lc .yiv4019740076ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076activity span .yiv4019740076underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 dd.yiv4019740076last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4019740076 dd.yiv4019740076last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4019740076 dd.yiv4019740076last p span.yiv4019740076yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076file-title a, #yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076file-title a:active, #yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076file-title a:hover, #yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076photo-title a, #yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076photo-title a:active, #yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076photo-title a:hover, #yiv4019740076 div.yiv4019740076photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4019740076 div#yiv4019740076ygrp-mlmsg #yiv4019740076ygrp-msg p a span.yiv4019740076yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv4019740076 o {font-size:0;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv4019740076 .yiv4019740076replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4019740076 #yiv4019740076ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a Walter Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and build empty fantasies about how interested we are in you. Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Nabby's probably planning to eat me. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
[FairfieldLife] Beyond
The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The ending part from the movie - Varanasi, India: Beyond that inspired me. I DO NOT OWN ANY COPYRIGHTS FOR THIS MOVIE This movie belongs ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Blue Lagoon
http://i0.wp.com/grapevine.is/wp-content/uploads/bluelagoon2.jpg In addition to challenging electronic music’s relationship to its exterior surroundings, Margeir also considers it in relation to the listener’s interior: the mind. He meditates twice a day, every day, for at least twenty minutes. “I use the technique called TM (transcendental meditation), which is the technique that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi taught The Beatles in the 60s,” he explains. “If there’s one thing that I would recommend that you could do with your life, I would say ‘meditate.’ That’s my advice—to everyone.” Some People out there in the real world are actually having fun: Blue lagoon - Iceland Airwaves 2011 - DJ Margeir + Human Woman + Beka Hoop crowdsurfing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 Blue lagoon - Iceland Airwaves 2011 - DJ Margeir... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 The Blue lagoon party at Iceland Airwaves 2011... DJ Margeir (from Gluteus Maximus) + Human Woman aka Sexy Lazer DJ Magic + Beka Hoop crowdsu... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Beyond True and False
Here's a good article from Aeon that explains the antipathy that some on this forum display towards Buddhist thought. It's comfortable with contradictions, and they aren't. Besides, this author gets database theory, and why I don't believe in a hierarchical universe. That would imply that most things in it are functions, rather than relations, and I don't see that as being true. Read the article...it's a mind-expander if one drops the comforting security provided by easy answers and opens oneself up to the notion that there probably aren't any. The logic of Buddhist philosophy – Graham Priest – Aeon The logic of Buddhist philosophy – Graham Priest... Buddhist philosophy is full of contradictions. Now modern logic is learning why that might be a good thing View on aeon.co Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond True and False
On 5/6/2014 2:33 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Besides, this author gets database theory, and why I don't believe in a hierarchical universe. Not sure where you are going with this, but a SQL database is hierarchical. A database model that is organized into the tree structure - like a parent-child relationship. A database contains individual records represented by a row and each attribute as a column. That little red book you keep with all your girlfriend phone numbers is hierarchical. It's not complicated. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Beyond gurus, beyond TM, beyond beyond
Soon the world press appeared at the locked upper gate. With small effort they broke the lock. At this same moment Maharishi arrived-he was quiet but firm when he requested, Please, we will receive you after a little time with the course then the interviews will be more meaningful; we will send for you and give you two full days to interview everyone. He finally dismissed them. I think the Beatles were very happy at the way it was done. That afternoon both George and John and their wives came to the afternoon lecture. George asked intelligent questions. The girls looked terrific in their colorful robes, a mad mosaic of color. Everyone complimented them and they seemed pleased. They appeared more relaxed around the other students. When Paul McCartney arrived he brought a total surprise. It was Ringo Starr, who said he could only stay for ten days at the longest. Paul was also accompanied by a slim, willowy red-haired girl he introduced as Jane Asher, a British actress and his fiancee. He made it clear that they would share the same quarters. George warned me, Prepare for rain - it rains wherever Ringo is. Ringo was small and just as much of a Rumpelstiltskin as his pictures made him out to be. One's first impression was of a big nose pushed along by vitality. Paul was outgoing and friendly. He seemed delighted to catch up with his team. Maharishi was the happiest of them all-he had all four Beatles as his guests. What a catch! It rained that night. But it didn't dampen my spirits - every day got more terrific. Do you mean that Maharishi condones Paul and that actress sharing a room? asked an indignant Genie, who was a supporter of moral rearmament, a Christian movement with strict moral values, Do you feel that is a good example for the rest of the course members? Maharishi's eyes are on far more important events than who is with whom, I countered, in spite of being a bit baffled myself. He isn't going to treat us like children. We are responsible for our own lives I reminded her. Don't forget Maharishi's definition of sin; it involves an action which is 'life destructive.' I don't think it's 'life destructive' for Paul and Jane to share a room. Read more: Beyond Gurus by Nancy Cooke de Herrera Blue Dolphin, 1992
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond gurus, beyond TM, beyond beyond
Thanks, Richard, nice excerpt. Hey you might really enjoy what Paul posted today about the sweet truth. On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:50 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Soon the world press appeared at the locked upper gate. With small effort they broke the lock. At this same moment Maharishi arrived-he was quiet but firm when he requested, Please, we will receive you after a little time with the course then the interviews will be more meaningful; we will send for you and give you two full days to interview everyone. He finally dismissed them. I think the Beatles were very happy at the way it was done. That afternoon both George and John and their wives came to the afternoon lecture. George asked intelligent questions. The girls looked terrific in their colorful robes, a mad mosaic of color. Everyone complimented them and they seemed pleased. They appeared more relaxed around the other students. When Paul McCartney arrived he brought a total surprise. It was Ringo Starr, who said he could only stay for ten days at the longest. Paul was also accompanied by a slim, willowy red-haired girl he introduced as Jane Asher, a British actress and his fiancee. He made it clear that they would share the same quarters. George warned me, Prepare for rain - it rains wherever Ringo is. Ringo was small and just as much of a Rumpelstiltskin as his pictures made him out to be. One's first impression was of a big nose pushed along by vitality. Paul was outgoing and friendly. He seemed delighted to catch up with his team. Maharishi was the happiest of them all-he had all four Beatles as his guests. What a catch! It rained that night. But it didn't dampen my spirits - every day got more terrific. Do you mean that Maharishi condones Paul and that actress sharing a room? asked an indignant Genie, who was a supporter of moral rearmament, a Christian movement with strict moral values, Do you feel that is a good example for the rest of the course members? Maharishi's eyes are on far more important events than who is with whom, I countered, in spite of being a bit baffled myself. He isn't going to treat us like children. We are responsible for our own lives I reminded her. Don't forget Maharishi's definition of sin; it involves an action which is 'life destructive.' I don't think it's 'life destructive' for Paul and Jane to share a room. Read more: Beyond Gurus by Nancy Cooke de Herrera Blue Dolphin, 1992
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Imagination - Official Movie Trailer (not spam)
Dear Ones, I am an independent documentary film producer and my work on consciousness, science spirituality is non-profit, non-commercial educational and has been made available to the public for free. Please enjoy this short, 7 minute trailer for my film trilogy to get the essence of what they are about: https://vimeo.com/60887570. The films are very thought provoking and profound. Warm regards, Frank http://www.beyondmefilm.com
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Noise
Beyond the Noise ** http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=iI1fSlSvaww#!
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Noise
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/young-filmmaker-creates-documentary-on-impact-of-transcendental-meditation-for-stressed-out-teens-185408282.html
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Noise: My Transcendental Meditation Journey by Dana Farley trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=flhsVnpBHZs
[FairfieldLife] Beyond 1st Person Ontology
Intersubjectivity in Indian and Tibetan Buddhism http://www.sbinstitute.com/sites/default/files/Intersubjectivity.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wivo94ylmhE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)
Robin: I cannot believe you posted a link with no words (totally kidding). This is so beautiful. Soothes the soul. Thank you. From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wivo94ylmhE
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the TM Technique: the Varmas
from Gurus In America (S U N Y Series in Hindu Studies), ch. 3 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: Beyond the TM Technique by Cynthia Humes (© 2005 State University of New York) Swami Brahmananda's prophecy? (…) M A H E S H B E C O M E S A M A H A R I S H I (…) While many of Mahesh’s followers claim he was a member of the kshatriya or ruling warrior caste, and many books written about TM and Maharishi reiterate this, Mahesh has made no such claim. Rather, Maharishi’s name—Varma—and most Indian sources identify him as a member of the kayasth or educated clerical caste prior to becoming a monk. This caste factor is significant. The kayasths are a learned caste with a long and fascinating history of attempts at self-definition. The kayasths are famous for having served as the clerical arm of the Muslims who came to rule North India prior to the British occupation of North India. A sector sought in the nineteenth century to identify themselves as descendents of the Emperor Chandragupta, thus giving rise to some people’s claim of their kshatriyahood. Especially during the 1920s and 1930s, kayasth leaders sought to “sanskritize” caste rituals, that is, emulate higher caste religious behavior, as well as twice- born culture, specifically, abstaining from alcohol. Their high level of education but ambivalent caste status lead to the kind of scoffing evidenced by this remark, attributed to Brahmananda Saraswati, “Nowadays, kayasths, vaishyas, oil sellers, and even liquor merchants put on the different colored garb of a holy man (sadhu) and are eager to make many disciples of their own. In this way both the guru and disciple will have their downfall. What I am saying is in accord with the sacred codes (shastras), I am not telling you my own mental construction.”13 (…) This issue over Maharishi’s monopoly of spiritual services mirrors a commercial tradition most Americans would recognize: supposed “quality control issues” in a franchiser/franchisee relationship. McDonald’s, for example, requires its franchises to order food products and paper goods solely through their parent company. Maharishi also requires his franchisees—teachers, medi- tators, and governors, and so on—to use his products, and his alone. Indeed, he even requires his teachers to sign statements of loyalty—a contract—to him. He has gone to court to protect his trademarked wares and monopoly rights, which extend to the mantras used in TM—all of which can be found in a standard mantrakosha, or “treasury of mantras.”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond the TM Technique: the Varmas
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: from *Gurus In America* (S U N Y Series in Hindu Studies), ch. 3 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: Beyond the TM Technique by Cynthia Humes (© 2005 State University of New York) Swami Brahmananda's prophecy? (…) M A H E S H B E C O M E S A M A H A R I S H I (…) While many of Mahesh’s followers claim he was a member of the *kshat**r**i **y**a ** *or ruling warrior caste, and many books written about TM and Maharishi reiterate this, Mahesh has made no such claim. Rather, Maharishi’s name—Varma—and most Indian sources identify him as a member of the *k**ay**asth** *or educated clerical caste prior to becoming a monk. This caste factor is significant. The *k**ay**asths** *are a learned caste with a long and fascinating history of attempts at self-definition. The * k**ay**asths** *are famous for having served as the clerical arm of the Muslims who came to rule North India prior to the British occupation of North India. A sector sought in the nineteenth century to identify themselves as descendents of the Emperor Chandragupta, thus gi ving rise to some people’s claim of their *kshat**r**i**y**ahood*. Especially during the 1920s and 1930s, *k**ay**asth** *leaders sought to “*sansk**r**iti**z**e*” caste rituals, that is, emulate higher caste relig ious behavior, as well as twice- born culture, specifically, abstaining fr om alcohol. Their high level of education but ambivalent caste status lead to the kind of scoffing evidenced by this remark, attributed to Brahmananda Saraswati, “Nowadays, *k**ay**asths*, *v**ais**hy**as*, oil sellers, and even liquor merchants put on the different colored garb of a holy man (*sadhu*) and are eager to make many disciples of their own. In this way both the guru and disciple will have their downfall. What I am saying is in accord with the sacred codes (*shast**r**as*), I am not telling you my own mental construction.”13 (…) This issue over Maharishi’s monopoly of spiritual services mirrors a comme rcial tradition most Americans would recognize: supposed “quality control issues” in a franchiser/franchisee relationship. McDonald’s, for example, requires its franchises to order food products and paper goods solely through their parent company. Maharishi also requires his franchisees—teachers, medi- tators, and governors, and so on—to use his pr oducts, and his alone. Indeed, he even requires his teachers to sign statements of loyalty—a contract—to him. He has gone to court to protect his trademarked wares and monopoly rights, which extend to the mantras used in TM—all of which can be found in a standard *mant**r**akosha*, or “tr easury of mantras.” Wormwood. Wormwood.
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gnosis (1)
Beyond Gnosis (1) I could not coin the term Metagnosis because I searched and found that it has already been used for some business organisation, and I could find no other prefix which would do the job with my precise meaning of it. So, tough luck Richard. But I can still talk about it, and I will. The question being is there really any point? Probably not. But what the hell go for it and have done with it !!! It is strange too because it also correlates with the last email I had which speaks of HUMAN NATURE and changeability and will power. So I was seeking ONE word which would mean Including gnosis but well beyond it. One must begin by saying that there IS NO recognised and accepted cultural meaning of even what GNOSIS IS. What it means, what experience it is pointing to. I have my own meaning for it, and I will NOT BE MOVED. It is plain enough that over the last few millennia other people have found exactly the same thing. I have also met some people alive (through my lifetime here) who have found the same thing; albeit not many. Unlike many people I do NOT use the word GNOSTIC as applied to those who have this gnosis. I don't call them anything. I would simply say that they are with gnosis. But it plainly turns out that those who call themselves GNOSTICS are simply seeking gnosis, and are NOT with it. I have never found one of them who have gnosis. Not one. So, they have some other meaning for that word, yet they never ever ever tell you what it is and what that experience was, etc etc etc. Moreover, of the ones I have found in history who surely did seem to be with this gnosis they did not even call themselves Gnostics, and those who I have found alive then not a one of them ever called themselves anything, let alone Gnostics. Added to which you can look up ANY and ALL groups about Gnostics and not a one of them are talking about it. They have not got what I am talking about and what some others have known. But, it is to them whatever they want it to be. But not for me. So happy days and it makes the word USELESS. Just like the words The Transcendent Mystical Reunion are useless. To be continued in Beyond Gnosis part 2. Dick Richardson
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gnosis (2)
Beyond Gnosis (2) Unlike convention will have it, that which I call gnosis IS NOT an experience! Even though it is derived during a very specific experience The Transcendent Mystical Reunion with OUR SELF in the timeless Ground of Being. The fact of this IS NOT up for debate and conjecture. It is AXIOMATIC, IRREFUTABLE and UNARGUABLE. Ipso bloody well Facto. So, for the rest of this day, sod incoming emails and addressing them, I am going to do what I WANT to do. And they can do with it what they will, and who cares. When I get serious then I get dogmatically dead serious; and no messing about. That which I call the Mystical Gnosis is not then an experience AT ALL. It is NOT the experience of the Transcendent Ground of BEING and it is not about the dark journey to it through purgation and annihilation transition process. It is not about any of this and it is not about the sum of it all. The Mystical gnosis is simply ONE THING, it is that which one KNOWS and is Conscious of WHILE THERE! And that is NOT an experience at all. It IS what one IS THERE and what one KNOWS and fully Understands there. THAT IS ALL. Gnosis means nothing else but that. In my use of the word that is. Others do not use that word for this perennial UNDERSTANDING. This gnosis is not about us out here, it is not about the world, it is not about life on earth, and it most emphatically does NOT reveal a purpose or meaning to life and existence. NO WAY ! NO WAY !!! But this is ALL OLD HAT. That event happened fifty years ago. Even the BIG one THE MYSTICAL UNION WITH THE ALL, happened thirty years ago. And that one is way beyond the mystical gnosis. Metagnosis. It is that one which reveals what life on earth is all about, and the purpose of it all and reason for Eternity even existing. Eternity is fulfilled and resolved in TIME ON EARTH. It is paradise fulfilled on earth. From Eternity for this purpose I AM. I have come to fulfil Paradise on the Earth. KNOW YOUR SELF !!! Unless you know your SELF then know nothing worth knowing! But even that one, The Consummatum Incarnate is even OLD HAT now. Thirty years in the past and all digested and all done and dusted and put to bed. And one moves on from there, as I have been trying to do for the last thirty years. And you do that, as you do all of it, on your own. So, truth is, I have as much interest in gnosis, and the mystical reunion, AND the mystical union with THE ALL ( Consummatum Incarnate) as I do in watching paint dry. It has all be eaten and used. Done and dusted, and one moves on to the next stage of being in the world. I AM, the being who lords it over paradise IS USELESS - if it cannot get out. IT DOES GET OUT ! Find out for why you are here. DON'T think it up, for thinking WILL NOT reveal it. AS for ALL your religions THEY ARE ALL RUBBISH !!! UTTER RUBBISH ! I am happy enough to talk abut all these things if somebody is interested in them and SERIOUS about it. Otherwise NOT. And I aint here to learn about gnosis or the result of in when synthesised and united with the outside world thank you very much; for that lot is all done; many years ago. And I am not the least bit interested in anybody's beliefs, religions, or opinions. What IS IS. And life and existence IS NOT relative to the observer. It all applies to all of us. Ipso bloody well Facto ! And neither is life and existence a delusion to be got rid of. They are mere sad miserable monkeys with type writers. Live well, keep positive, and be true to yourself and do no harm to others. For your SELF is a divine wonder. From Eternity for this Purpose YOU ARE. And life on earth IS GOOD and it is the most profound and amazing part of all of it. Ipso! Have a nice day. Dick Richardson
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Emptiness
In the context of this Buddhist appraisal of the Mahavairocana Tantra/Sutra; Emptiness Realization in itself appears to be a passing stage (that people can unfortunately get stuck in for a long time?); and it's possible that some/most of the Batgappers are in the Emptiness stage. The Sutra proclaims that aspiring students can pass beyond Emptiness in their evolution to an awareness of the uncreated body of the Mahavairocana Buddha and true knowledge of the Buddha fields. ... From Wiki: Yet ultimately even emptiness needs to be transcended, to the extent that it is not a vacuous emptiness, but the expanse of the mind of Buddha, Buddhic Awareness and Buddha-realms, all of which know of no beginning and no arising - as Stephen Hodge points out: 'Finally, though one has realized the true emptiness of the individual and phenomena, one does not yet realize that the natural state of mind is the Tathagata's inherent Awareness and that it is the all-pervasive Body of Vairocana with all the manifested Buddha realms. Therefore one must transcend even emptiness with the emptiness of emptiness, when it is seen that the mind is primordially unborn and unarisen.'[5] The sutra later reinforces the notion that Emptiness is not mere inert nothingness but is precisely the unlocalised locus where Vairocana resides. Vajrapani salutes the Buddha Vairocana with the following words: 'I salute you who are bodhicitta [Awakened Mind]! I salute you who are the source of Enlightenment! ... I bow to you who reside in emptiness!'[6] Emptiness in Buddhist discourse usually means the flow of causation and result - the arising of causes and conditions - but in this scripture, Mahavairocana Buddha declares himself to be separate from all causes and conditions and without defect - truly mighty: 'I who am mighty have been renowned as the Great Hero. I directly realized that there is no arising, and abandoned the perceptual range of words; I became free from all faults, and separated from causes and conditions.'[7] '
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Emptiness
In view of the Mahavairocana Sutra; the Batgappers in that context appear to be stuck in a stage; i.e. the false belief that Emptiness In Itself is the highest realization. The Sutra suggests that one should go beyond that realization into an awareness of the Mahavairocana Buddha and the Buddha Fields. From Wiki: Yet ultimately even emptiness needs to be transcended, to the extent that it is not a vacuous emptiness, but the expanse of the mind of Buddha, Buddhic Awareness and Buddha-realms, all of which know of no beginning and no arising - as Stephen Hodge points out: 'Finally, though one has realized the true emptiness of the individual and phenomena, one does not yet realize that the natural state of mind is the Tathagata's inherent Awareness and that it is the all-pervasive Body of Vairocana with all the manifested Buddha realms. Therefore one must transcend even emptiness with the emptiness of emptiness, when it is seen that the mind is primordially unborn and unarisen.'[5] The sutra later reinforces the notion that Emptiness is not mere inert nothingness but is precisely the unlocalised locus where Vairocana resides. Vajrapani salutes the Buddha Vairocana with the following words: 'I salute you who are bodhicitta [Awakened Mind]! I salute you who are the source of Enlightenment! ... I bow to you who reside in emptiness!'[6] Emptiness in Buddhist discourse usually means the flow of causation and result - the arising of causes and conditions - but in this scripture, Mahavairocana Buddha declares himself to be separate from all causes and conditions and without defect - truly mighty: 'I who am mighty have been renowned as the Great Hero. I directly realized that there is no arising, and abandoned the perceptual range of words; I became free from all faults, and separated from causes and conditions.'[7] '
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Time. Eternity
Beyond Time. Eternity. (Beyond the perception of changing events - - an old email to somebody) With regard to that aspect of your experience Grant, may I offer this .. (But how can one say, 'I was above the curve of time...' my kids (both in their thirties) laugh at me.) First, don't tell them :- )) One mentions these kind of things to people who are in the know to some degree or those who come looking for you. To the others you say nothing; or simply write books. The `others' do not read these kind of books YET ! Simple as that Grant. You cannot get a quart into a pint pot but the plants grow by experience and watering them well so to speak. With regard to Time. It is a funny old business is it not. The current paradigm (well, the one some live in anyway) has it that there are three dimensions of space (width breadth and depth) and one dimension of time, and that is it. This is all nonsense ! Moreover, all these phenomena are operative in ONE dimension; THIS ONE called the physical world and universe. This is not what is meant by the mystics as dimensions; they are simply Cartesian coordinates in this dimension. Moreover, even in this dimension of the physical universe Time is not a phenomenon in its own right; it is the effect of the working of other phenomena. Time is the changing face of energy not a thing in its own right. Many think of time as a kind of cosmic jam jar into which things are put and the lid is sealed to keep them in there. Have you ever heard the mystics say .. Only at the end of time can you know these things? Well, they were correct in so saying; and I say it myself. It does not mean at the end of this world or at the end of the physical universe it means when time ends FOR YOU. Time can end at any point, at any time of the day and it lasts as long as it takes to learn whatever is needed for that person to learn at that point in their development. Even in this physical universe there is no such thing as a universal time constant simply because change is due to Mass and Gravitational forces. Moreover, they like to assume that everything in the universe changes it is not so; and the physical universe is only a part of the whole Cosmos of things. All physical things change. But does consciousness grow old and rot? Of course not. Do ideas grow old and rot? Does love and passion grow old and rot? Do inspirations and ideals grow old and rot? The body grows old and rots back into the stuff that all physical forms of energy are made of. Everything at some point goes back to from whence it came even the mind and consciousness. And as YOU are MIND (not a body) then so too does that (YOU) go back to from whence you came HOME Eternity; the ground of Being and wherein one redeems this eternal knowledge, wisdom, understanding = the GNOSIS of Eternity in the Ground of Being. If that happens during a lifetime then naturally you remember it when you come back here (the second coming) into temporal perception again. If we did not come back here on occasions after that experience then nothing on earth would ever be known about it. So it obviously HAS to be known on earth as it is in Paradise (Eternity) beyond all moving time and space. And so it is, and so it is found and experienced and KNOWN to be. I KNOW. And so to do others KNOW but they are rare on earth at any one time in any one generation. Nothing is for nothing in the nature of things; and everything is for something cause and effect and more besides. However, think of it as simply steeping out of a continuum of the flow of changing events. Think of a river and you are in a boat on that river (a physical body is your boat and time travelling machine it travels through time from birth to death). But you the living life force within it are not made of the stuff of this world or the physical universe. So your boat simply pulls over to the proverbial river bank and you step out of it of it onto the `land' so to speak. Nothing made in time and space can return to the ground of being in eternity (paradise) - - ONLY YOU ! For it is what you ARE made of. But of course it is not quite as simple as that. In reality there is no hard and fast line as a river bank in that one instant there is dry land and the next there is water. Think of the land at the side of the river of change as also changing and flowing but not as fast as the river flows. Thus there is still time (and the perception of changing events - just like in your experience) but it is not physical time, it is psychic time. And it is therein that psychic events are experienced (on the inside) or projected onto the outside from the inside (like an hallucination or what I call and Extended and projected Arkon Image Emanation). Most (not all) psychic experiences (as are NDE's) are SYMBOLIC and made that way for YOUR personal understanding of something. It is an `in the meantime meal' to digest. Do not they in NDE's get the
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the catastrophe: How imperialism undermined Haiti
FIST statement Beyond the catastrophe How imperialism undermined Haiti Published Jan 14, 2010 5:18 PM A grave tragedy has befallen the people of Haiti. Fight Imperialism Stand Together extends its solidarity to the island nation, its people and the peoplesâ movements. The 7.3 earthquake that struck near Port-au-Prince on Jan. 12 left many around the world waiting, shocked, hoping for the best but anticipating the worst. As night came and communications with the island remained tenuous, there was nothing left to do but wait for news of the damage and the toll of human suffering. A 7.3 earthquake is a major catastrophe anywhere, but in a nation like Haiti -- the poorest country in the western hemisphere, with little infrastructure capable of withstanding such an occurrence -- it was bound to lead to major loss of life. It is expected that tens of thousands have been killed. The conditions of Haiti, where there are few hospitals, little medical personnel, barely passable national highways and no emergency response teams, will lead to the needless deaths of thousands more. Haiti is a highly-exploited, poor nation. Eighty percent of the population lives on less than $2 a day and more than 50 percent on less than $1 a day. Unemployment exceeds 70 percent. Many people survive by subsistence farming, and within the last couple of years poverty and hunger has increased because of four consecutive tropical cyclones--Fay, Gustav, Hanna, and Ike--in August and September. Natural occurrences have indeed caused a great harm, but they are not the chief cause of the misery that faces Haitian people. Haiti has to be put in a context that best illuminates why the small nation is in a precarious situation. Haiti was the western hemisphereâs first Black republic. It was the only slave colony to win freedom through armed struggle when the Haitian people defeated a military power that was the scourge of Europe -- the military of Napoleon Bonaparte. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson gave the first foreign aid from the United States to the French slave owners, for fear that a successful revolution would lead to uprisings of enslaved Africans in North America. At the time of the Haitian revolution, Saint Domingue, as Haiti was then known, was one the richest colony of the French, known as the âpearl of the Antilles.â Because of the overthrow of the colonial slave masters, France sent an armada of 14 ships to extort 150 million francs from the country in payment for the loss of property (the people of Haiti, their free labor and the fruits of their labor). That 1825 extortion began a series of western world attempts to assert its will on the free people of Haiti. The U.S. occupation of 1915-1934 destroyed the Haitian constitution and established the armed forces that would later be dismantled by the first democratically elected president of Haiti in 1990, President Aristide, because of its ties to the Haitian ruling elite. The ruling elite, for most of Haitiâs history, has been mainly white or light-skinned due to the long legacy of colonialism. Thousands were massacred by the invading U.S. forces. The U.S. supported the brutal regimes of Francois âPapa Docâ Duvalier and his son Jean-Claude âBaby Docâ Duvalier. Tens of thousands were killed under the twin repressive regimes, mostly by the paramilitary Tonton Macoutes. When the people of Haiti were able to force out Baby Doc through a mass struggle, another repressive military regime took over from 1987 until the election, by two-thirds of the electorate, of preacher and mass leader Jean-Bertrand Aristide. Aristide was overthrown in September 1991, seven months after having been sworn in, by military and police officers. Though Aristide returned in 1994, he was forced into accepting neoliberal austerity measures. The country was forced to import staples and rely more heavily on loans from the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, turning it from a nation that was in some respects able to produce its own food to one that now relies on the importation of more than 50 percent of its food. Aristide was elected again in 2000 with 92 percent of the vote. He was kidnapped in 2004 by private security forces and the U.S. military and flown out of the country. Some of the same military leaders who started the coup were also leaders of the Tonton Macoutes death squad. The U.S., France and Canada all occupied Haiti until a U.N. mission, named MINUSTAH, took over. MINUSTAH has been accused of carrying out massacres against the popular movement to restore President Aristide, leading to the killing of peoplesâ leader Dred Wilme. The peculiar history of slavery and genocide, colonization and support of brutal dictatorships by the U.S. and France has led to Haiti being in the condition it is in today. Not only is there a meager infrastructure, but the country has been deforested. The deforestation leads to floods during the rainy season,
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Fringe
As we all know, only extreme left-wing (or is it extreme right-wing?) fanatical Hillary dead-enders can find anything to criticize about Obama. You won't *believe* the insane fantasies of the two pathetic losers in these videos. Rachel and Jon have trouble believing what they're hearing too: Rachel Maddow, The Rachel Maddow Show, 5/21/09, Tale of Two Speeches, on preventive detention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jshogbjtYs Jon Stewart, The Daily Show, 6/25/2009, Cheney Predacted, on secrecy: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=231571title=cheney-predacted
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Man
In one of the upper regions of the astral world not in the region of pure mind but near it I met a man last night who passed to and fro with his head bowed in thought. What troubles you, friend? I asked, as I stood before him. He paused in his restless walk and gazed at me. Who are you? he enquired, listlessly. I am a Judge, I answered. His eyes brightened with interest. You must have come at the call of my thought, he said, for I have need of a Judge. On whom do you wish me to pass judgment? I asked, half smiling at his strange words. I would like you to pass judgment on me. And your offence? My offence if it is an offence, and on that you shall give your opinion is having led a nation to its undoing. With malice aforethought? I queried. With malice, perhaps, he answered, but not in the sense of your question. I never believed they had spirit enough to believe me. You pique my curiosity, I said. Who are 'they?' and in what did they believe you? They are the Germans, he answered, the Germans whom I despised, and they believed my theory that man becomes supreme by doing what he wills to do. And the devil take the hindmost? Yes, and the devil take the hindmost. He bent on me his sombre eyes, and I waited for his words. What a folk those Germans are! he said. Whatever they do, they do too thoroughly. One cannot trust them with a great truth. They do seem to have systematized you into the ground, I answered. I wanted to make them gods, he complained, and I have made them devils. God only can make gods, I said. Perhaps you were too ambitious. Humph! Perhaps I was too confiding. Hermeticism is safer, I suggested. You told them far too much. Or far too little, maybe. In how many volumes? Go ask the librarians. Not the foreign ones they bind my works in packages of salable size. And how can I help you? I asked. Judge me. While you prosecute and defend yourself? Who else is fit, either to prosecute or defend me? Go on with the prosecution. I have corrupted a whole people, and led them to their ruin. Elaborate the charge. I thought to remedy their spinelessness, and following me with characteristic thoroughness, they have become all spine; they have neither heart nor bowels. Continue, I said. I preached Beyond Man. They have practised below man. So far, I interrupted, you have prosecuted them, not yourself. How can I charge myself without charging them? he demanded. Then I will step down from the bench, I said, and talk with you man to man. I am glad you didn't say soul to soul. Oh, man is good enough for me! As I said before, you were too ambitious. Yes, too ambitious for man, too sick of man, too much in love with what man might become! We have come already to the defence, I said. The smell of the court is still about you, he growled. You asked me to be your judge. Yes, that is true. I am sorry for you, I said. He smiled a sad and searching smile. You seem to have both heart and bowels, he observed. And you have been too long alone, I replied. You have lost your gift of words. Shall I prosecute, defend and judge you? You can interrupt me whenever you like. Go on, he assented. You were born under a restless star, I began. You followed heroes; they disappointed you by being men. Then you made self your hero, and that disappointed you most of all. You seem to know all about me. That is the glory and the shame of your greatness, that one knows all about you. I deny it! You do not know all about me. What is it that we do not know? You do not know how I loved man! You spoke of him with contempt. That he might rise to Beyond Man. Oh! And drown the children on the Lusitania, and hack his way through Belgium, and turn every friend against him, and be the curse of the planet! He raised an arresting finger. You are speaking of the Germans, he said. They are the only ones who have followed your philosophy to its logical conclusion. And you taunt me with that? I taunt you with nothing. I am stating facts. It was you who taunted them to their undoing. I only preached Beyond Man. So far beyond man that man misunderstood you. Is that my fault? Whose else? Not theirs? Not altogether theirs. You hated too much. You taught them to hate man. I taught them to hate all that was not Beyond Man. But man is not Beyond Man, and so you taught them to hate man. But they themselves are not Beyond Man! They aspire to be. You taught them to aspire to be. They believed themselves Beyond Man, beyond good and evil. You taught chemistry to babes and sucklings, and they have blown up the nursery of the world. I wanted only to teach them. You should have begun with the a-b-c. And what do you think is the a-b-c of Beyond Man? he asked. The a is love, the b is humility, the c is truth, I answered. And why did I not teach them love, humility and truth? You knew not love, humility and truth. I knew not love? You knew not love. And I knew not
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Stem Cells: Obama Overturns Bush War On Science
WASHINGTON Reversing Bush policy, President Barack Obama on Monday cleared the way for a significant increase in federal dollars for embryonic stem cell research and promised no scientific data will be distorted or concealed to serve a political agenda. Obama signed the executive order on the divisive stem cell issue and a memo addressing what he called scientific integrity before an East Room audience packed with scientists. He laced his remarks with several jabs at the way science was handled by former President George W. Bush. Promoting science isn't just about providing resources, it is also about protecting free and open inquiry, Obama said. It is about letting scientists like those here today do their jobs, free from manipulation or coercion, and listening to what they tell us, even when it's inconvenient especially when it's inconvenient. It is about ensuring that scientific data is never distorted or concealed to serve a political agenda and that we make scientific decisions based on facts, not ideology. He said his memorandum is meant to restore scientific integrity to government decision-making. He called it the beginning of a process of ensuring his administration bases its decision on sound science; appoints scientific advisers based on their credentials, not their politics; and is honest about the science behind its decisions. Fulfilling a campaign promise, Obama signed the order that on stem cell research that supporters believe could uncover cures for serious ailments from diabetes to paralysis. Proponents from former first lady Nancy Reagan to the late actor Christopher Reeve had pushed for ending the restrictions on research. Obama paid tribute to Reeve, calling him a tireless advocate who was dedicated to raising awareness to the promise of research. Obama's action reverses Bush's stem cell policy by undoing his 2001 directive that banned federal funding for research into stem lines created after Aug. 9, 2001. The president said his administration would work aggressively to make up for the ground he said was lost due to Bush's decision, though it can't be known how much more federal money will be spent on the research until grants are applied for and issued. Story continues below Medical miracles do not happen simply by accident, Obama declared. Embryonic stem cells are master cells that can morph into any cell of the body. Scientists hope to harness them so they can create replacement tissues to treat a variety of diseases - such as new insulin-producing cells for diabetics, cells that could help those with Parkinson's disease or maybe even Alzheimer's, or new nerve connections to restore movement after spinal injury. House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, criticized Obama, saying in a statement that the president had rolled back important protections for innocent life, further dividing our nation at a time when we need greater unity to tackle the challenges before us. Bush limited the use of taxpayer money to only the 21 stem cell lines that had been produced before his decision. He argued he was defending human life because days-old embryos - although typically from fertility clinics and already destined for destruction - are destroyed to create the stem cell lines. The Obama order reverses that without addressing a separate legislative ban, which precludes any federal money for the development of stem cell lines. The legislation, however, does not prevent funds for research on those lines created without federal funding. Researchers say the newer lines created with private money during the period of the Bush ban are healthier and better suited to creating treatment for diseases. Obama called his decision a difficult and delicate balance, an understatement of the intense emotions generated on both sides of the long, contentious debate. He said he came down on the side of the majority of Americans who support increased federal funding for the research, both because strict oversight would prevent problems and because of the great and lifesaving potential it holds. Rather than furthering discovery, our government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values, Obama said. In this case, I believe the two are not inconsistent. As a person of faith, I believe we are called to care for each other and work to ease human suffering. Obama warned against overstating the eventual benefits of the research, but he said his administration will vigorously support scientists who pursue this research, taking another slap at Bush in the process. I cannot guarantee that we will find the treatments and cures we seek. No president can promise that. But I can promise that we will seek them actively, responsibly, and with the urgency required to make up for lost ground, he said. It's a matter of competitive advantage globally as well, the president argued. When government fails to make these
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Universe of Time and Change
Beyond the Universe of Time and Change. [ their God is beyond the universe ] Never met any of the religionists godo's on my travels. But I did find something which was beyond the perception and my memory of the physical universe ME. But there was nobody else there, no godos, no sons of godos, just me and that divine and wondrous pleroma of an eternal NOW. And therein I found my SELF, its very first ground of conscious existence; Primordial Cognition. Hell, and I was not even looking for it, or anything. Were you made in the same factory? Well, you find out. You say there is a limit to what we can know. I guess you are right at that. But we can sure KNOW or SELF, and when you know that then you know what your are NOT. And that is the important bit. Hell, I don't even know how to build a computer, or how to build a rocket. But I know what I am and from whence I came and why. So that will do me for now. I found it when I was very young, so I had cope with that all my adult life and there is more. But best not mention that. Dick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: Among other possible types of limitations: (Scientific American, p. 19, March 2009): 1. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle (HUP). ...Heisenberg discovered that improved precision regarding, say, an object's position inevitably degraded the level of certainity of its momentum. 2. Kurt Godel showed that within any formal mathematical system advanced enough to be useful, it is impossible to use the system to prove evfery true statement that it contains. 3. ...Alan Turing demonstrated that one cannot, in general, determine if a computer algorithm is going to halt. 4. New theorem of David H. Wolpert, NASA Ames Research Center. ... has chimed in with his version of a knowledge limit. Because of it, he concludes, the universe lies beyond the grasp of any intellect, no matter how powerful, that could exist within the universe. ...no matter what laws of physics govern a universe, there are inevitably facts about the universe that its inhabitants cannot learn by experiment or predict with a computation. [brief comment on the last one. To get around such arguments against Omniscience, Fundamentalists are fond of saying that their God is beyond the universe, thus negating Wolpert's theorem. But various philosophical arguments can be brought to bear on counteracting the Fundies. Some of these will be presented shortly.
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the observable universe...
Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the sky beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and NASA team members have discovered. http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d
[FairfieldLife] BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil
---Originalmeldung--- Betreff: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil Bob Roth's report from Brazil to Dr. Bevan Morris. Dear Bevan, There really are no words to properly describe what happened yesterday afternoon in Belo Horizonte in Brazil, in a gymnasium filled with 3000 to 4000 children who have all been born with the divine birthright of enlightenment, but who have lived a life far far far from that reality-- an impoverished life, all-but abandoned by society. No money, no hope, no future. Enter Maharishii's Transcendental Meditation program. With the awe-inspiring organizing power of Raja Luis and the great Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of Brazil, thousands of these children have learned to meditate. Yesterday, they assembled in that old gym, crumbling and also forgotten--and they turned it into a Shrine of Pure Knowledge. They gathered to honor David Lynch and Donovan--and to express their gratitude for the gift of true freedom they received from Maharishi. Not much more to say other than to say, look at these pictures. These should be sad children. They are not. These are happy, gleeful, hopeful, bright, shiny kids, lit from within, having the time of their lives And David? What to say that has not been said. A true master teacher of Maharishi's supreme knowledge. And Donovan (along with a famous local singer named Claudia)... Well he did what he was born to do: Awaken a tsunami of bliss and happiness with his song and presence... The event began at 3:30 pm and ended at 5:30 pm. It was two- hours of bliss. ? David entered the building kind of overwhelmed by the thunderous applause (you have to see and HEAR the video footage when it is ready) basked for a moment in the glow of the moment, and then spoke a few words to the kids, describing TM as a priceless diamond that each child should cherish throughout his or her life... He said he had not missed a meditation in 35 years--and neither should any of the kids! ? David and the kids then meditated for ten minutes (a really REALLY great experience!) ? A few more words were spoken from the school directors and teachers ? Then the concert: Donovan wowed the kids with several songs (they went wild with energy and pure joy--the director had a smile as large as the country of Brazil!) followed by a few more songs with Claudia But the true story of the day is in the pictures... with many more fabulous photos and videos to come! Jai Guru Dev Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Beyond What Matters
In my last essay on What Matters, I mentioned that reality is obvious, and that you can know it simply by experiencing it. I called attention to the fact that you are what you seek, and that you can find out for yourself what you are through your own direct discovery. Alright, but how exactly does one do that? Well, I don't know if this is the best way, but one way that works is to simply notice. That simple. Simply notice. I'll give you an example. This is certainly not the only way that noticing can unfold. It's just one example. A good way to start out is to notice that noticing is only possible because of awareness, and hence awareness itself might be wise to notice first. Usually we use our awareness to notice all manner of other things. But notice now what happens when we notice awareness itself. Notice that our awareness has no shape, no size, no extension. It doesn't really seem to be a pinpoint. And yet it doesn't' seem to have any size beyond that either. It seems to extend to whatever it is that we're aware of. Notice that it really doesn't seem to be a substance of any kind. It doesn't seem to be made of anything. And yet it is more real than substance because without it we would never be aware of substance. So it confounds the entire idea of materiality. Matter is so prominently substantial, and yet without insubstantial awareness all the substance of matter would be pointless. Notice how absolutely gentle awareness is. Unless what it is aware of has something to do with force, awareness itself is absolutely gentle. Notice how everyone's awareness, when considered without regard to anything one might happen to be aware of, is exactly the same for everyone. Though we might think that what we're aware of might be special, awareness itself is never special. Now notice how our very existence would actually have no meaning at all were it not for the fact that we're aware of existing. Notice how we can't even be aware of anything existing without awareness because we can't be aware of anything existing without awareness, without being aware of just that. And now, notice that it actually in fact is the greatest thing we could ever know, because without it we wouldn't be able to know anything. Notice that it actually in fact is greater than any other experience we could possibly have because without it we wouldn't be able to be aware of any experience. Of all the magnificent phenomena in the entire universe. Of all the astounding miracles you could ever imagine. None is more magnificent or astounding as our own, living awareness. Just notice how much of an astounding miracle it actually is that we are aware And now notice this: Awareness is greater than anything else we could possibly know about God, because without it God wouldn't be aware of anything, which would nullify everything else about God that is grand and magnificent. Try to imagine God not being aware of His own existence. Without awareness, God would be nothing. Just notice that. So the greatest thing we can know about God is that God is awareness, because God would be nothing without awareness, just as we would. So, awareness is the one thing that is clearly essential both to us, and to God. Notice that if we weren't awareness in the first place, we couldn't imagine ourselves to be something other than awareness. We have to BE awareness before we can think we're something else. That being the case, what's the point in thinking we're something else? And now notice that there can't possibly be anything more true than awareness. Just try to imagine something that is more true than awareness. Everything we can possibly know about Truth could not be known unless there was awareness in the first place to be aware of it. So what we've noticed, then, is that Awareness is our True Identity and the only Reality. Well, that certainly is very nice, isn't it. But now what. Well, now that the value of noticing is obvious, it's a good idea to just keep doing it. As often as possible, simply notice that you exist. You'll find that if you just keep doing that, everything else will fall into place. And the nice thing about this is that nobody has to take anybody's word for it. If one just does it, they'll find out for themselves. Much Love, Ben Gilberti http://www.miraclescenter.us/gilberti.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond What Matters
On Jan 7, 2008, at 2:16 AM, Ben Gilberti wrote: In my last essay on What Matters, I mentioned that reality is obvious, and that you can know it simply by experiencing it. I called attention to the fact that you are what you seek, and that you can find out for yourself what you are through your own direct discovery. Zzzz... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Beyond Rainbows
Most of this post was written awhile ago to another group, but it handles some of the issues we're currently jawing about here, so I've rewritten it, significantly, and present it here. I'm a deep believer in repetition -- saturation of the nervous system. At a certain point, if I've run a deep concept through my mind many times, something pops, a clarity usually. I count saturation as a spiritual technique, and only after reading Ramana Maharshi's Talks three times did I get comfortable with, adroit with, sold out to, Advaita. Suddenly, all scriptures made sense as I carefully translated the dogma of others into my precise definitions of spiritual terms due to Ramana saturation -- turns out it is always the same song of the sacred being sung. Neat! So, I've reread the below, run the concepts through my nervous system one more time -- another step down the trail. It's me generally riffing on spirituality. Beyond Rainbows These days, most kids get taught about prisms and how white light can be spread out into the rainbow of colors. And most know that the prism only creates a rainbow if it is correctly positioned relative to the beam of light. Three things needed: light, prism, angle. But who's being taught that silence, like light, can be spread out into the spectrum of all sounds when nothing passes through a human mind? Who's being taught silence, soul, ego is a trinity for discovering wisdom? Soul is the manifested white light of silence. Ego is the prism. Ego pretends to be the creator, but ego doesn't create the light that it seems to manipulate. And beyond these three is one's true absolute Self witnessing life's thoughts' multicolored flowingness. Precious few of us are ever introduced to this concept by the serendipity of life's eddies, and fewer still are gently supported until the mind has wrapped itself around the cosmic implications of the concept. Fewer still realize the concept points to an inner mountain to be climbed, and that the ascent is done using mental skills mostly learned during the climb. It takes a heap-o-inner-work to get the brain positioned just so in order to get the silence to shine through it, -- otherwise, no rainbow. Positioned just so means that one has stopped actively trying to be a thinker of thoughts. Let go, let God be the thinker. Stop clinging to the delusion of having a separate, sentient potency. Quantum physicists know that the basis of existence is the vacuum state where nothing happens -- at a furious rate. They'll look you in the face, sober as judges, and tell you that any point in space/time can suddenly manifest vast energies -- out of nowhere. Talk about priests speaking of miracles! Those guys -- gotta love atheists in frocks wanting so badly to sing with the angels! Psychologists try to get folks to discover that clarity wherein everything snaps into place, the colors of one's life suddenly POP when the right looking attitude is cultured. They know how a person's psychological patterns are blocking the way of their own growth, and that the learning to step aside from one's identifications is just that thing needed to achieve that POP! In the midst of turmoil, suddenly, calmness can be seen to pervade despite any cacaphony. Chemists will speak of catalysts that makes things happen but remain unchanged after many temporary transitions -- catalysts are silent in that they do not create anything but are the way for changes to be made. Just so, one's soul is the white light that can be spread out into any thought you want. The egoic mind is the prism. Ego pretends that it is the enjoyer of everything that flows from the true Creator of EVERYTHING, but all alone, beyond even silence itself is one's true status as witness. When it's clear that God is doing the thinking, one is only required to witness. Or, as they say, When one meets God, the first action of the ego is to fall face down to the ground and beg for mercy -- an instant and complete surrender of this thief who tried to steal the authorship of everything from God. Later, the begging for mercy part ends as the ego dissolves, and one gets to just lay there glorying at the feet of Infinitude -- and then identification with God begins to grow. Yet, of what use all the above words? If you're in the choir with me, these are old hat concepts; you can easily flesh out these word bones. And to those who have no desire to listen to -- not sing -- the hymns that move your and my egos so deeply, well, they're beyond the hegemony of our minds; we can only surrender to their freedoms. Sometimes it takes 30 years of NASCAR to get that addiction done with ya know? Oh, I've had a taste for mammon all my life. I've been swept up by every sort of addiction to non-silences, and some fell to the wayside by just my sheer indulgence in them finally jading me enough to be free of them, to have silenced those desires. Still other addictions have faded by the general wisdom of
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[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gurus book by Nancy Cooke de Herrera for sale or.....
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[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gurus book for sale or free..
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Gurus book for sale or free..
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