[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: snip The fact that they also have scientology-like leagues of TM digital-jihadists searching blogs referring to TM and controlling Wikipedia entries, so they can interject 'their version of history and theirs alone' is not a good sign IMO. As I've pointed out several times, the assertion about TM controlling Wikipedia entries is a blatant lie. Don't take my word for it; look at the Talk page for any of the Wikipedia entries relating to TM, where the various issues are hashed out (usually quite cordially) between TM critics and TM defenders, with Wikipedia administrators keeping close tabs to make sure nobody railroads anybody else. And leagues of digital jihadists is just ridiculously overblown rhetoric. Did any of the Obama supporters here find anything outrageous about the leagues of digital jihadists organized by the Obama campaign to make pro-Obama posts on blogs and in response to newspaper articles (many of them a whole lot less polite than the relatively small number of pro-TM posters)? For heaven's sake, people, why do you let Vaj get away with this crap? He makes stuff up right and left, and you all just soak it up and blabber about how sincere and knowledgeable he is. If what you want to establish is the truth about TM, what good does it do if you knock down TMO falsehoods but let those of the unscrupulous critics like Vaj stand unchallenged? Does that really get you any closer to the truth?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
Judy wrote: For heaven's sake, people, why do you let Vaj get away with this crap? Oh, shut yer pie hole! I've been doing this for years. Where have you been? Where I come, from silence usually indicates agreement. Where were you when I needed you with Manning, Vaj and the BluIce? Meditation is a conscious mental process that induces a set of integrated physiologic changes termed the relaxation response... 'Functional brain mapping of the relaxation response and meditation' Lazar SW, Bush G, Gollub RL, Fricchione GL, Khalsa G, Benson H. PubMed, 10841380, May 2000 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10841380 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10841380 Buddhists 'really are happier': FairfieldLife/message/228030 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/228030 According the Sri Swami Rama, MMY was a leading suspect in the poisoning of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati... Read more: From: Willytex Subject: This is just outrageous! Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: June 27, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/nb8r68 http://tinyurl.com/nb8r68
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
Natural Stress Relief (NSR) going back into this thread, NSR seems an American project. I spoke over the weekend with someone just back from a summer in London who now was visiting FF. That person observed that an English group widely promotes alternative Transcendental Meditation there for the same reasons as NSR is stating here. This person was saying that the alternative was really the only meditation being widely promoted around publicly. Posters on public transport, articles and ads. At temples around London the alternative was the only thing available meditation wise. Same thing in yoga studios there. The alternative was what was available. Is TM in trouble for its public costume? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: An alternative to Transcendental Meditation August 10, 6:29 PMPhoenix Alternative Religions ExaminerWayne Purdin NSR Inc. Founder David Spector Some readers think that I am a proponent of Transcendental Meditation. And I've received email from TMers accusing me of putting TM in a bad light by allowing negative comments about it. They're both wrong. I am an objective reporter. In this article I will objectively report on an alternative to TM, called Natural Stress Relief (NSR). You might ask, if TM is so great why do we need an alternative? Unfortunately, TM has developed several aspects that prevent many people from being able to learn. Its course fee has become prohibitively high ($1500.00 for adults, $750 for students and $375 for children under 18), and it includes nonessential elements that many find to be religious or mystical, and therefore objectionable to some people. The need for an alternative was clear, and a nonprofit group in Italy called Istituto Scientia, led by physics researcher Fabrizio Coppola, got together in the late 1990's to develop a comparable technique that did not have these objectional aspects. By 2003, Istituto Scientia was offering their own course, called la Tecnica Naturale Anti-Stress (TNAS) in Italian, and Natural Stress Relief in English. In 2006 David Spector, a former TM teacher, was inspired to help. David founded Natural Stress Relief, Inc., an independent nonprofit corporation, to produce and distribute the NSR learning materials in hardcopy and CDs throughout the world in cooperation with Istituto Scientia. Since 2006 nearly one thousand individuals have learned NSR Meditation through NSR Meditation/USA. I recently talked with David about NSR and this is what he had to say: Q. Doesn't NSR violate copyright law? Aren't you guilty of plaigarism? A. We have copied no written or copyrighted TM material except for very brief and attributed quotations from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of TM. Q. When I became a TM teacher, I had to sign a legal document promising not to teach it outside of the TMO. How did you get around this? A: When I graduated from 8 months of teacher training in residence with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1972, our group was asked orally not to teach TM outside of Maharishi's organizations, and I have not done so. My last TM teaching was done in 1974. I was also asked not to reveal that pledge, but you did ask a direct question and I believe that only an honest answer is ethical. Maharishi was certainly very concerned (as am I) about what he liked to call the purity of the teaching, but he was at the same time supportive (at least in the early 1970s) of people teaching the simple, natural, effortless, and effective technique of transcending to as many people as possible. He taught us that this knowledge is no one's property but that it comes to us from the long and freely available Vedic tradition passed from teacher to student in India. He said we should enlighten the world, whether we called it TM and worked through his organizations or whether we called it something else and worked independently of his organizations. An early example was Deepak Chopra, a disciple of Maharishi who decided to form his own organization and teach his own techniques based on the same Vedic tradition of effortless enlightenment. Maharishi reluctantly approved his doing so and Deepak is still helping the world today. Another example is the Advaita Meditation organization, which is teaching mantra meditation independently with the blessing of the current leader of that Vedic tradition in South India at Sringeri (Maharishi was a disciple of the leader of the same tradition in the north of India at Jyotir Math). Q. What do you say to critics who accuse you of being in it for the money? A. Natural Stress Relief, Inc. is a nonprofit corporation registered in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The NSR organizations are not only nonprofit, but volunteer as well. The officers receive no income
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:19 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Natural Stress Relief (NSR) going back into this thread, NSR seems an American project. I spoke over the weekend with someone just back from a summer in London who now was visiting FF. That person observed that an English group widely promotes alternative Transcendental Meditation there for the same reasons as NSR is stating here. This person was saying that the alternative was really the only meditation being widely promoted around publicly. Posters on public transport, articles and ads. At temples around London the alternative was the only thing available meditation wise. Same thing in yoga studios there. The alternative was what was available. Is TM in trouble for its public costume? Very possibly, if recent nuisance legal threats to people criticizing TM or even mention of one of it's old teachers, Robin Carlsen, are any indicator, their honest image and reputation are becoming more widespread--and they don't like that. The recent wikileaks documents of the seedy inside of TM Org maneuvering and their great desire to close down sites critical of TM or TM research or TM being banned from schools would seem to indicate they have been in damage mode for some time now. The fact that they also have scientology-like leagues of TM digital-jihadists searching blogs referring to TM and controlling Wikipedia entries, so they can interject 'their version of history and theirs alone' is not a good sign IMO. Now should be a good time for alternative mantra-yogas to advertise their wares. Wanna make some money? Shemp McGurk TM (SMcTM) or Mc-TM for short would be a low cost, pure original version of TM without any of the ancillary programs, and will be able to be taught in any building. It's low cost does however require the signing of an unstressing waiver.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Natural Stress Relief (NSR) going back into this thread, NSR seems an American project. I spoke over the weekend with someone just back from a summer in London who now was visiting FF. That person observed that an English group widely promotes alternative Transcendental Meditation there for the same reasons as NSR is stating here. This person was saying that the alternative was really the only meditation being widely promoted around publicly. Posters on public transport, articles and ads. At temples around London the alternative was the only thing available meditation wise. Same thing in yoga studios there. The alternative was what was available. Is TM in trouble for its public costume? MMY put all of TM's credibility on the line with the TM Siddhis program (aka Yogic flying, yep we're ready for that), the party's over my friend, the fat Lady sang post Merv Griffin..IMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both. To whatever degree Maharishi's initial mission trajectory may have wavered in the latter part of his life (if it did at all), he came from an authentic and sincere background. ** Yeah, that was the way it was. However, the market base seems to be broadening. For instance, half of the corporations that offer employee health insurance benefits apparently also fund `wellness' programs. These secular meditations run right through that hole in a way that TM because of its religious connections seems might not. Bensen and Harvard, Siegel and UCLA, Tolle and Oprah, Now these alternative Transcendental Meditation guys evidently from East coast schools. Matters of packaging and promotion that will come in time. I bet that the UCLA guy we have not heard the last of. I would put some money on that group to become very present in `wellness' programs and in quiet time meditation time within schools, as well as the workplace. Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series speaks on the new science of personal transformation. Dan Siegel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Health food stores typically have alternative newspapers that list alternative and complementary health care services. I used to look at these lists regularly. I was looking to see what was being offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement that much more remarkable, I guess. Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both. To whatever degree Maharishi's initial mission trajectory may have wavered in the latter part of his life (if it did at all), he came from an authentic and sincere background. ** Yeah, that was the way it was. However, the market base seems to be broadening. For instance, half of the corporations that offer employee health insurance benefits apparently also fund `wellness' programs. These secular meditations run right through that hole in a way that TM because of its religious connections seems might not. Bensen and Harvard, Siegel and UCLA, Tolle and Oprah, Now these alternative Transcendental Meditation guys evidently from East coast schools. Matters of packaging and promotion that will come in time. I bet that the UCLA guy we have not heard the last of. I would put some money on that group to become very present in `wellness' programs and in quiet time meditation time within schools, as well as the workplace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Health food stores typically have alternative newspapers that list alternative and complementary health care services. I used to look at these lists regularly. I was looking to see what was being offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement that much more remarkable, I guess. Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Vaj, you may be correct, but as a species we all seem to be far more alike than different. We all apprehend the being that we are from different angles and with different approaches, but at some point all that evaporates, certainly, and what 'is' is all that remains. That's my take, at least, and that same apprehension of the imminent trancendent has been reiterated in many cultures and in many times in the past. But maybe that only means that I've fallen for one of the oldest scams in the book. If it's a scam, many of the greatest thinkers throughout history and across cultures have been taken in by it. Given the almost infinite variety of contexts in which the Perennial Philosophy is found, many of them arising entirely independently of each other, it seems rather odd that they'd all *converge* on this single idea, and testify to it experientially, if there wasn't something to it. I wonder what evidence Vaj finds for its being totally imaginary. I also have to wonder whether his disagreement is a matter of definition rather than substance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: I'm sorry to say Marek, but I feel illusion of a philosophia perennis as a continuing thread of generic gnosis, same-awakening, across time, as some universal spiritual awakening (for different human-folk) to be totally imaginary and anti-inner-anthemic. It goes against the grain of the fact that we're all unique, each holding his/her own mythos, our own Rig Ved (but not a synthetic thought-plane projection of our imaginings of 'that'). On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: The Perennial Philosophy in practice.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: An alternative to Transcendental Meditation August 10, 6:29 PMPhoenix Alternative Religions ExaminerWayne Purdin Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone. NSR Inc. Founder David Spector Some readers think that I am a proponent of Transcendental Meditation. And I've received email from TMers accusing me of putting TM in a bad light by allowing negative comments about it. They're both wrong. I am an objective reporter. In this article I will objectively report on an alternative to TM, called Natural Stress Relief (NSR). You might ask, if TM is so great why do we need an alternative? Unfortunately, TM has developed several aspects that prevent many people from being able to learn. Its course fee has become prohibitively high ($1500.00 for adults, $750 for students and $375 for children under 18), and it includes nonessential elements that many find to be religious or mystical, and therefore objectionable to some people. The need for an alternative was clear, and a nonprofit group in Italy called Istituto Scientia, led by physics researcher Fabrizio Coppola, got together in the late 1990's to develop a comparable technique that did not have these objectional aspects. By 2003, Istituto Scientia was offering their own course, called la Tecnica Naturale Anti-Stress (TNAS) in Italian, and Natural Stress Relief in English. In 2006 David Spector, a former TM teacher, was inspired to help. David founded Natural Stress Relief, Inc., an independent nonprofit corporation, to produce and distribute the NSR learning materials in hardcopy and CDs throughout the world in cooperation with Istituto Scientia. Since 2006 nearly one thousand individuals have learned NSR Meditation through NSR Meditation/USA. I recently talked with David about NSR and this is what he had to say: Q. Doesn't NSR violate copyright law? Aren't you guilty of plaigarism? A. We have copied no written or copyrighted TM material except for very brief and attributed quotations from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of TM. Q. When I became a TM teacher, I had to sign a legal document promising not to teach it outside of the TMO. How did you get around this? A: When I graduated from 8 months of teacher training in residence with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1972, our group was asked orally not to teach TM outside of Maharishi's organizations, and I have not done so. My last TM teaching was done in 1974. I was also asked not to reveal that pledge, but you did ask a direct question and I believe that only an honest answer is ethical. Maharishi was certainly very concerned (as am I) about what he liked to call the purity of the teaching, but he was at the same time supportive (at least in the early 1970s) of people teaching the simple, natural, effortless, and effective technique of transcending to as many people as possible. He taught us that this knowledge is no one's property but that it comes to us from the long and freely available Vedic tradition passed from teacher to student in India. He said we should enlighten the world, whether we called it TM and worked through his organizations or whether we called it something else and worked independently of his organizations. An early example was Deepak Chopra, a disciple of Maharishi who decided to form his own organization and teach his own techniques based on the same Vedic tradition of effortless enlightenment. Maharishi reluctantly approved his doing so and Deepak is still helping the world today. Another example is the Advaita Meditation organization, which is teaching mantra meditation independently with the blessing of the current leader of that Vedic tradition in South India at Sringeri (Maharishi was a disciple of the leader of the same tradition in the north of India at Jyotir Math). Q. What do you say to critics who accuse you of being in it for the money? A. Natural Stress
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Health food stores typically have alternative newspapers that list alternative and complementary health care services. I used to look at these lists regularly. I was looking to see what was being offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement that much more remarkable, I guess. Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both. To whatever degree Maharishi's initial mission trajectory may have wavered in the latter part of his life (if it did at all), he came from an authentic and sincere background. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Health food stores typically have alternative newspapers that list alternative and complementary health care services. I used to look at these lists regularly. I was looking to see what was being offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement that much more remarkable, I guess. Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:05 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: An alternative to Transcendental Meditation August 10, 6:29 PMPhoenix Alternative Religions ExaminerWayne Purdin Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone. OK, you piqued my interest. What would the Bloomingdale, Eddie Bauer L.L. Bean versions of packaged silence look like!? Different from a Verma, Srivistava Sons with a Brahmananda twist?
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On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both. Well, let's not forget he also actually got people interested in doing weekend, week-long and month-long retreats. Asanas and some pranayama. Cool folks to hang with. That's one of his greatest achievements in my opinion--but the emphasis of regular, core practice was his hallmark which he seeded to the masses, whether they even meditated or not. It became a worldwide theme because of his impeccable marketing management. And that may end up being the greatest significance of MMY for the future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
Just today, as I was passing through security at the courthouse, I overheard one of the bailiffs use the phrase . . . it was like that was her mantra or something . . . This bailiff was unlikely to have ever done mantra meditation, and equally unlikely that the two security guards had either, but the word mantra was a term they were all familiar with. TM and its popularity injected the term into the common vernacular. That's pretty cool. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both. Well, let's not forget he also actually got people interested in doing weekend, week-long and month-long retreats. Asanas and some pranayama. Cool folks to hang with. That's one of his greatest achievements in my opinion--but the emphasis of regular, core practice was his hallmark which he seeded to the masses, whether they even meditated or not. It became a worldwide theme because of his impeccable marketing management. And that may end up being the greatest significance of MMY for the future.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Just today, as I was passing through security at the courthouse, I overheard one of the bailiffs use the phrase . . . it was like that was her mantra or something . . . This bailiff was unlikely to have ever done mantra meditation, and equally unlikely that the two security guards had either, but the word mantra was a term they were all familiar with. TM and its popularity injected the term into the common vernacular. That's pretty cool. I feel it definitely seeded the collective consciousness, esp. with the Four Avatars -- John, Paul, George and Ringo--to share their love-- and spread the seed naturally throughout the collective web they wove and expanded with their music. Johnny Appleseeds. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar seems to carrying on the original smile of TM. So it moves on and evolves. Even more popular.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
The Perennial Philosophy in practice. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Just today, as I was passing through security at the courthouse, I overheard one of the bailiffs use the phrase . . . it was like that was her mantra or something . . . This bailiff was unlikely to have ever done mantra meditation, and equally unlikely that the two security guards had either, but the word mantra was a term they were all familiar with. TM and its popularity injected the term into the common vernacular. That's pretty cool. I feel it definitely seeded the collective consciousness, esp. with the Four Avatars -- John, Paul, George and Ringo--to share their love-- and spread the seed naturally throughout the collective web they wove and expanded with their music. Johnny Appleseeds. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar seems to carrying on the original smile of TM. So it moves on and evolves. Even more popular.
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I'm sorry to say Marek, but I feel illusion of a philosophia perennis as a continuing thread of generic gnosis, same-awakening, across time, as some universal spiritual awakening (for different human-folk) to be totally imaginary and anti-inner-anthemic. It goes against the grain of the fact that we're all unique, each holding his/her own mythos, our own Rig Ved (but not a synthetic thought-plane projection of our imaginings of 'that'). On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: The Perennial Philosophy in practice. **
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
Vaj, you may be correct, but as a species we all seem to be far more alike than different. We all apprehend the being that we are from different angles and with different approaches, but at some point all that evaporates, certainly, and what 'is' is all that remains. That's my take, at least, and that same apprehension of the imminent trancendent has been reiterated in many cultures and in many times in the past. But maybe that only means that I've fallen for one of the oldest scams in the book. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: I'm sorry to say Marek, but I feel illusion of a philosophia perennis as a continuing thread of generic gnosis, same-awakening, across time, as some universal spiritual awakening (for different human-folk) to be totally imaginary and anti-inner-anthemic. It goes against the grain of the fact that we're all unique, each holding his/her own mythos, our own Rig Ved (but not a synthetic thought-plane projection of our imaginings of 'that'). On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: The Perennial Philosophy in practice. **
