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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Rory:
> > > > > How do you know this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Judy:
> > > > And what on
> > > > > eart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Judy:
> > > > And what on
> > > > > eart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Judy:
> > > And what on
> > > > earth leads you to think that it's something
> > > > "you" *make*?
> > >
> > > Rory:
> > > If not
> > > Judy:
> > > > I plan to let it happen whenever it's
> > > > ready to happen.
> > >
> > > Rory:
> > > How will you know when it is ready to happen?
> >
> > I won't know until it happens.
>
> How are you going to let it happen if you won't know until it
> happens?
>
> Who do you think is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Rory:
> > > > How do you know this is impossible, Judy, if you haven't
tried
> > it?
> >
> > Judy:
> > > Oh, for heaven's sak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Rory:
> > > How do you know this is impossible, Judy, if you haven't tried
> it?
>
> Judy:
> > Oh, for heaven's sake, of course I've tried it.
>
> Rory:
> Yes? With whom? I hope you had company. Most people find
Rory:
> > How do you know this is impossible, Judy, if you haven't tried
it?
Judy:
> Oh, for heaven's sake, of course I've tried it.
Rory:
Yes? With whom? I hope you had company. Most people find it far
easier and more effective the first few times if they are
accompanied by a guide, rebirth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So long as we do *not* appreciate *this*
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > So long as we do *not* appreciate *this*
> > moment as a "god-given" gift we have not yet fully unwrapped and
> > understood -- t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> So long as we do *not* appreciate *this*
> moment as a "god-given" gift we have not yet fully unwrapped and
> understood -- that long do we find it to be shrouded in darkness,
> ignorance, fear, suffering, and so on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > OK. I think you're suggesting that it's something of
> > > an infinite regress, that one can be overshadowed by
> > > the desire not to be overshadowed. But that's the
> > > nature of the beast, part of why ignor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What's amusing is the idea that the citation of
> > a particular person's thoughts is always a
> > manifestation of the "authority thing," as if it
> > could only be an attempt to trump other thoughts.
>
> The real amuse
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Don't take this all so seriously, Judy.
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> > OK. I think you're suggesting that it's something of
> > an infinite regress, that one can be overshadowed by
> > the desire not to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Don't take this all so seriously, Judy.
> > I don't know about these other guys,
> > but I'm just majorly amused tonight at
> > you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Don't take this all so seriously, Judy.
> I don't know about these other guys,
> but I'm just majorly amused tonight at
> you pretending not to be enlightened,
> and striving so hard to keep up the
> pretense.
You keep
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Especially from somebody who admits he isn't
> >
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfrien
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > > Oh, yes! it must be enlightenment - I-I understand all [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > ;-) Amazing
> >
> > Yup. But at the same time,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Especially from somebody who admits he isn't
> > > enlightened.
> >
> > But I lie. Don't you remember? :-)
>
> Yup. You said I ha
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> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfrien
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Judy writes:
> > > I d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh, yes! it must be enlightenment - I-I understand all [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > ;-) Amazing
>
> Yup. But at the same time, it's not the kinda
> conversation you necessarily want to add your
> name to in the list o
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/27/05 2:15 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Judy writes:
> >> I don't know what it's like to b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Judy writes:
> > I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
> > know what it's like to be ignorant, in
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfrien
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Tom T writes:
> > > > > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to
be
> > able to hold all that in the
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judy writes:
> I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
> know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
>
> Tom T:
> no difference
You've forgotten what it's like to be ignorant.
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Judy writes:
> > I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
> > know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
> >
> > Tom T:
> > no difference
>
> Judy writes;
> You've forgotten
> Judy writes:
> I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
> know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
>
> Tom T:
> no difference
Judy writes;
You've forgotten what it's like to be in
ignorance.
Tom T:
Actually I have not forgotten but I can no longer ignore what is
really going
On 9/27/05 2:15 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Judy writes:
>> I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
>> know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
>>
>
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judy writes:
> I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
> know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
>
> Tom T:
> no difference
You've forgotten what it's like to be in
ignoran
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Akasha:
> > I rather look directly into the projector from 3 " away.
>
> Rory:
> That explains a lot :-)
When you are the screen, you can drink life from a firehose.
Akasha Sutras VI:23:07
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/27/05 9:38 AM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/26/05 10:52 PM, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> >>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK. I think you're suggesting that it's something of
> an infinite regress, that one can be overshadowed by
> the desire not to be overshadowed. But that's the
> nature of the beast, part of why ignorance is so
> st
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Never mind.
...and never matter?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
Judy writes:
I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
Tom T:
no difference
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"authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> My only criterion, for instance, is not to
> > be overshadowed.
Akasha108 writes:
Thinking about that thought, paraphrasing, "I just don't want to be
oveshadowed" gets funnier and funnier the more it is contemplated and
considered. Its like a perfect jeweled
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > May I suggest, that while you brought up th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > May I suggest, that while you brought up the phrase in your post,
> > that the phrase can also transcend your own particular situat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What's amusing is the idea that the citation of
> > a particular person's thoughts is always a
> > manifestation of the "authority thing," as if it
> > could only be an attempt to trump other thoughts.
>
> The real amuse
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Judy:
> > Well, that could be the last experience you need to
> > have to wake up, no?
> Depends on what you mean by "wake up". In general one gains "the
View", the living, breathing experience and certainty as to what the
st
On 9/27/05 9:38 AM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/26/05 10:52 PM, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> The koan that does the job. "You will have every
>>> ex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/26/05 10:52 PM, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The koan that does the job. "You will have every
> > experience you need to have till you finally wake up"
> > a quote from a f
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >> My only criterion, for instance, is not to
> > > > be
> What's amusing is the idea that the citation of
> a particular person's thoughts is always a
> manifestation of the "authority thing," as if it
> could only be an attempt to trump other thoughts.
The real amusement is that you are saying this.
I recall you to be one of the core quoting parrots
On 9/27/05 12:51 AM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> into what always is, has
>> always been, and always will be, the (non)radiant emptifulness of
>> (not)self itself...
>
> Ah, you took that Simuladvaita class. Was it good?
ROFLOL!
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On 9/26/05 11:13 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Judy responds:
>>
>> The bottom line being that there is nothing that
>> can be said about Brahman, positive or negative,
>>
On 9/26/05 10:52 PM, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The koan that does the job. "You will have every
> experience you need to have till you finally wake up" a quote from a
> friend.
I wouldn't consider that a koan.
Also it says, in effect, the awakened state (
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In
> > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfiel
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Tom T writes:
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Rory wrote:
> > > Right; no real difference between ignorance and enlightenment,
> or
> > > between being "asleep" and being "awake" -- though oddly
enough,
> as
> > > we have seen, only the experientially "awa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Tom T writes:
> > > > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to be
> able to hold all that in the awake mind.
> >
> akasha_108 wrote:
> > > > Then it must be possible to be able to
> >
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> My only criterion, for instance, is not to
> > > be overshadowed.
>
> Thinking about that thought, paraphrasing, "I just don't want to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tom T writes:
> > It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> > time. Tom
> >
> > Judy wr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> My only criterion, for instance, is not to
> > > be overshadowed.
>
> Thinking about that thought, paraphrasing, "I just don't want to be
> > > > Tom T writes:
> > > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to be
able to hold all that in the awake mind.
>
akasha_108 wrote:
> > > Then it must be possible to be able to
> > > hold all that in the unawake mind too. All Possibilities.
Rory wrote:
> > Right; no re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Let's say we don't get attached. Let's
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> My only criterion, for instance, is not to
> > be overshadowed.
Thinking about that thought, paraphrasing, "I just don't want to be
oveshadowed" gets funnier and funnier the more it is contemplated and
considered. Its l
Rory wrote:
> > Right; no real difference between ignorance and enlightenment,
or
> > between being "asleep" and being "awake" -- though oddly enough,
as
> > we have seen, only the experientially "awake" appear generally
able
> > to appreciate this to any visceral extent, while the self-
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Let's say we don't get attached. Let's say we've
> > never *been* attached. Let's say human beans have
> > always been realized.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> [Akasha108 wrote:]
> > > > Tom T writes:
> > > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to be
able
> > > > to hold al
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tom T writes:
> > It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> > time. Tom
> >
> > Judy writes:
> > Or none of the above...
> >
> > Tom T:
> > Which part of all possibilities
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tom T writes:
> > It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> > time. Tom
> >
> > Judy wri
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom T writes:
> It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> time. Tom
>
> Judy writes:
> Or none of the above...
>
> Tom T:
> Which part of all possibilities isn't clear?
Huh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Tom T writes:
> > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to be able
> to hold all that in the awake mind.
> > Then it must be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[Akasha108 wrote:]
> > > Tom T writes:
> > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to be able
> > > to hold all that in the awake mind.
> >
> > Then it must be possible to be able to
> > hold all that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Judy responds:
> >
> > The bottom line being that there is nothing that
> > can be said about Brahman, positive
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judy responds:
>
> The bottom line being that there is nothing that
> can be said about Brahman, positive or negative,
> of which the opposite is not also the case,
> because Brahman is One withou
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judy responds:
>
> The bottom line being that there is nothing that
> can be said about Brahman, positive or negative,
> of which the opposite is not also the case,
> because Brahman is One with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --How about Brahman is the Absolute AS the relative?
You'd have to ask Nagarjuna. ;-)
I suspect it would come under "...not both the
relative and the Absolute," though.
> - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfrie
Judy responds:
The bottom line being that there is nothing that
can be said about Brahman, positive or negative,
of which the opposite is not also the case,
because Brahman is One without a second.
"All possibilities" is one way of putting it, but
it doesn't quite convey how radical the Advaita
p
--How about Brahman is the Absolute AS the relative?
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Tom T writes:
> > > It is both, it is either and it i
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tom T writes:
> > It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> > time. Tom
> >
> > Judy writes:
> > Or none of the above...
> >
> > Tom T:
> > Which part of all possibilities
> Tom T writes:
> It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> time. Tom
>
> Judy writes:
> Or none of the above...
>
> Tom T:
> Which part of all possibilities isn't clear?
Judy:
Um, I was invoking Nagarjuna.
TomT:
OK explain please. What has that to do with all possibilities.
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom T writes:
> It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
> time. Tom
>
> Judy writes:
> Or none of the above...
>
> Tom T:
> Which part of all possibilities isn't clear?
Um,
Tom T writes:
It is both, it is either and it is neither all at the same
time. Tom
Judy writes:
Or none of the above...
Tom T:
Which part of all possibilities isn't clear?
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--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TorquoiseB writes:
> I think I picked it up in New York. It always
> seemed to capture the Zen of certain paradoxes
> for me, like the one you cite above. The coex-
> istence of seeming opposit
TorquoiseB writes:
I think I picked it up in New York. It always
seemed to capture the Zen of certain paradoxes
for me, like the one you cite above. The coex-
istence of seeming opposites, the irresolvability
of the paradox, and all that. It's like how a
Zen master from the Bronx should talk: "D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 9/25/05 11:34 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> on 9/25/05 12:55 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >> These nuns were like tireless angels.
> > >
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> These nuns were like tireless angels.
> >
> > Despite all the bad press the Catholic church has received in
> recent years,
> > they still carr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/26/05 9:40 AM, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> And, by the way, all those wonderful works that you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > And, by the way, all those wonderful works that you cite above?
> > Your local Catholic Church has been doing that in you
on 9/25/05 11:34 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> on 9/25/05 12:55 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn't Amma's org have financial statements?
>>
>> Probably does. I don't know anyt
On 9/26/05 9:40 AM, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> And, by the way, all those wonderful works that you cite above?
>> Your local Catholic Church has been doing that in your very own
>> neighb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> And, by the way, all those wonderful works that you cite above?
> Your local Catholic Church has been doing that in your very own
> neighbourhood for the past several hundred years...and without the
> hugging and
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