[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
So, it is official now. The money disappeared unaccounted for in 'offshore' accounts, again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: ** U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. Actually I think I may have found it. In 2002, the Maharishi Global Development Fund took in $76 million in donations. $58 million of that was then transferred out to a variety of offshore accounts in the Channel Islands. The primary offshore account is the Brahmanada Saraswati trust which received a $53 million grant that year. This same account received $16 million in 2003 and $10 million in 2004 in grants from the MMY Glb. Dev Acc't, which represents the majority of its own donations for those years. So it seems that US donations to the pundits have gone into the Glb. Dev fund for tax purposes but then get transferred out to an offshore account where of course they can't be traced any further. I can't imagine what else that $76 million in donations in 2002 could be connected to. Was that the year the millionaire courses started?? Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. I'm still curious where Bob saw the $190 million in cash? PS -- The biggest expense for the MMY Glb Dev fund in 2002 was $2.7 million paid to Equine 121 Consulting in Texas. This must be related to that real estate scandal in texas in which the movement paid a bunch of money to some ex-politician to fix some deal which cost the locals a bunch of money -- anyone remember those details?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it is official now. The money disappeared unaccounted for in 'offshore' accounts, again. My understanding, and it is just a guess, is that this account is the mortgage account for the Indian properties. If itis NOT that, then where are the mortgage accounts? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
So, this FFL thread is the best accounting the TMorg and Maharishi give of what they have done? Evidently thin accounting that is not transparent. It looks pretty bad when they can not openly speak to it. Shame on them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: ** U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. Actually I think I may have found it. In 2002, the Maharishi Global Development Fund took in $76 million in donations. $58 million of that was then transferred out to a variety of offshore accounts in the Channel Islands. The primary offshore account is the Brahmanada Saraswati trust which received a $53 million grant that year. This same account received $16 million in 2003 and $10 million in 2004 in grants from the MMY Glb. Dev Acc't, which represents the majority of its own donations for those years. So it seems that US donations to the pundits have gone into the Glb. Dev fund for tax purposes but then get transferred out to an offshore account where of course they can't be traced any further. I can't imagine what else that $76 million in donations in 2002 could be connected to. Was that the year the millionaire courses started?? Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. I'm still curious where Bob saw the $190 million in cash? PS -- The biggest expense for the MMY Glb Dev fund in 2002 was $2.7 million paid to Equine 121 Consulting in Texas. This must be related to that real estate scandal in texas in which the movement paid a bunch of money to some ex-politician to fix some deal which cost the locals a bunch of money -- anyone remember those details?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
dhamiltony2k5 wrote: So, this FFL thread is the best accounting the TMorg and Maharishi give of what they have done? Evidently thin accounting that is not transparent. It looks pretty bad when they can not openly speak to it. Shame on them. mark meredith 2002 wrote: mark meredith 2002 wrote markmeredith@ wrote: bob brigante wrote: U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. mark meredith 2002 wrote Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. mark meredith 2002 wrote: Actually I think I may have found it. In 2002, the Maharishi Global Development Fund took in $76 million in donations. $58 million of that was then transferred out to a variety of offshore accounts in the Channel Islands. The primary offshore account is the Brahmanada Saraswati trust which received a $53 million grant that year. This same account received $16 million in 2003 and $10 million in 2004 in grants from the MMY Glb. Dev Acc't, which represents the majority of its own donations for those years. So it seems that US donations to the pundits have gone into the Glb. Dev fund for tax purposes but then get transferred out to an offshore account where of course they can't be traced any further. I can't imagine what else that $76 million in donations in 2002 could be connected to. Was that the year the millionaire courses started?? Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. I'm still curious where Bob saw the $190 million in cash? PS -- The biggest expense for the MMY Glb Dev fund in 2002 was $2.7 million paid to Equine 121 Consulting in Texas. This must be related to that real estate scandal in texas in which the movement paid a bunch of money to some ex-politician to fix some deal which cost the locals a bunch of money -- anyone remember those details?? Sir Mark, Looks like the tmo may have hired a consultant to lobby the City Counsil with regards to the re-zoning issues. It appears the City wants to re-zone as agricultural land. And, the tmo which failed to develop the 300 acres with a whirled peas palace, and tehy await a buyer. Doesn't look the parcel will sell anytime soon due primarily to the re-zoning issues, as there isn't a master plan in place now. See related articles.. THE COLONY The Maharishi Global Development Fund is asking the city to delay rezoning about 300 acres that the fund owns along State Highway 121 so the company can find a buyer. The city will consider the requested six-month delay next month but is eager to see the land developed. Officials want to change the zoning back to its original agricultural designation because no development has occurred there for several years. It's part of the city's plan to turn the stretch of Highway 121 into an entertainment and recreation district by attracting development. The city has adopted a master plan to realize that vision, and one of the first steps is to rezone the land accordingly. http://tinyurl.com/eugpa Steve Brown: Trump buzz probably all talk He brought big rumors and earned big bucks in Dallas appearance 08:09 AM CST on Friday, March 3, 2006 ..And don't forget the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's plan to build a 300- acre heaven on earth in The Colony... http://tinyurl.com/jct2y To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
lurkernomore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send-Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send- Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and place on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore steve.sundur@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send- Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send- Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and place on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Only if you are addicted and worshipful of the material world as you are. Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! And why you apparently fail to grasp this, and have staked your identity on proving some nonsense related to religious dogma. You should be ashamed of yourself for not transcending the words of the wise and the saints, Gods and Godesses which you bandy about so freely. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore steve.sundur@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send- Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send- Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and place on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Only if you are addicted and worshipful of the material world as you are. Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! And why you apparently fail to grasp this, and have staked your identity on proving some nonsense related to religious dogma. You should be ashamed of yourself for not transcending the words of the wise and the saints, Gods and Godesses which you bandy about so freely. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : ) But of course that does not mean you are going to answer his question. ...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Then why the constant harping about it over and over and over in numerous posts? Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. So you're fixated on MMYs death because you're trying to prove a point to Judy and Lawson? It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? What is really pathetic is your obsession with The Lil mantra- $elling-freak-Mahesh death and your obvious anger and resentment towards him. Thirty years from now you'll still be harping about MMYs death and people will ask, Who was MMY? No one will care but YOU. But by then, who knows, maybe you will be curled up in your house blind and unable to walk. It sometimes happens when people grow old. It's called life. Clearly you're carrying around a lot of emotional baggage with regards to The Lil mantra-$elling-freak-Mahesh. After 6 years I'd say it's time for you to deal with your anger/resentment/betrayal issues with MMY and *move on* in your life. A LOT of people have and so can you! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
jim flanegin wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: lurkernomore steve.sundur@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )... i must politely take exception with your assesment of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send-Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send-Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and placed on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Only if you are addicted and worshipful of the material world as you are. Namaste Sir Jim Ji, I must politely take exception with your assesment of my personal character. How would you know Him i worship? Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by- informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. Sir Jim Ji, i must politely inquire-, what has that to do with Mishmashi Brahmacahri Mahesh's current situation? That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! Yes Sir Jim Ji..,Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma got it.. run straight out of India. And why you apparently fail to grasp this, and have staked your identity on proving some nonsense related to religious dogma. ? You should be ashamed of yourself for not transcending the words of the wise and the saints, Gods and Godesses which you bandy about so freely. And, Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma should have heeded those words as well.. because he got his butt run out of his former ashram. BTW Sir Jim Ji..since you are the ardent defender of Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma..i must politely inquire, just what were those suspicious motivations and behavior he was up to at the time of Sri Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanad Saraswati Ji Maharaj's death?? please see.. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman no_reply@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : ) But of course that does not mean you are going to answer his question. ...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Then why the constant harping about it over and over and over in numerous posts? Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. So you're fixated on MMYs death because you're trying to prove a point to Judy and Lawson? It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? What is really pathetic is your obsession with The Lil mantra- $elling-freak-Mahesh death and your obvious anger and resentment towards him. Thirty years from now you'll still be harping about MMYs death and people will ask, Who was MMY? No one will care but YOU. But by then, who knows, maybe you will be curled up in your house blind and unable to walk. It sometimes happens when people grow old. It's called life. Clearly you're carrying around a lot of emotional baggage with regards to The Lil mantra-$elling-freak-Mahesh. After 6 years I'd say it's time for you to deal with your anger/resentment/betrayal issues with MMY and *move on* in your life. A LOT of people have and so can you! As the Brits say: Spot On! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim flanegin wrote: snip Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by- informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! 26 years ago- people change. Are you exactly the same as 26 years ago? Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. That's because Bevan and Greg *are* babies. It is hearsay anyway. The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. Sir Jim Ji, i must politely inquire-, what has that to do with Mishmashi Brahmacahri Mahesh's current situation? That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! Yes Sir Jim Ji..,Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma got it.. run straight out of India. So what? snip And, Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma should have heeded those words as well.. because he got his butt run out of his former ashram. BTW Sir Jim Ji..since you are the ardent defender of Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma..i must politely inquire, just what were those suspicious motivations and behavior he was up to at the time of Sri Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanad Saraswati Ji Maharaj's death?? please see.. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Jim, the only solution is...No soup for you! Allow fools to be fools and the wise to be wise. What can you do? Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Jim, the only solution is...No soup for you! Allow fools to be fools and the wise to be wise. What can you do? Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! Those overdue fines haven't been enough to make me stop, but I might if I see: Namaste Sir xxx ji, I must politely take exception with your assesment..! Cut the crap! If you're gonna bash someone, just do it. No Pranams for You! JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Jim, the only solution is...No soup for you! Allow fools to be fools and the wise to be wise. What can you do? Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! No soup for Maharishi! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
jim flanegin wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: jim flanegin wrote: snip Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by-informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! 26 years ago- people change. Namaste Sir Jim Ji, i must politely ask.., are you certain people change? Are you exactly the same as 26 years ago? Sir Jim Ji..,this is not about me. This newsgroup is about one- Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma Shristava and his (C)onfused (P)ersonal (I)deology. Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. That's because Bevan and Greg *are* babies. Sir Jim Ji..i must humbily remind you- those two are your future maharishis or rajas or whatever you are going to call them. Sir Jim Ji.., it maybe real soon Bevan Morris is your GuruJi. It is hearsay anyway. Agreed. The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. Sir Jim Ji, i must politely inquire-, what has that to do with Mishmashi Brahmacahri Mahesh's current situation? That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! Yes Sir Jim Ji..,Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma got it.. run straight out of India. So what? Sir Jim Ji.., i must politely respond-, So What?. We are talking about the maharishi who claims to found the true ShankarAcharya Tradition that had been lost for years!! There is only one country on this Earth Planet that has a Shankar Acharya Tradition.., and i don't think this Tradition is in Holland. Do you? snip And, Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma should have heeded those words as well.. because he got his butt run out of his former ashram. BTW Sir Jim Ji..since you are the ardent defender of Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma..i must politely inquire, just what were those suspicious motivations and behavior he was up to at the time of Sri Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanad Saraswati Ji Maharaj's death?? please see.. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sir Jim Ji, may i humbily remind you that Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma claims-, found the long lost shankaracharya tradition which btw is full of religious rituals.. Please examine your puja for example. i do believe the tm puja was ruled a religion in New Jersey in the late 1970s...correct? Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. Which are? I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Sir Jim Ji.., his puja is full of religious rituals..,for example: candle waving, and fruit offerings, and invocation of Hindu Gods, and insence burning. Why would he care? Why does he have a puja and a shankaracharya tradition? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Namaskar All The Best Stephen Perino To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim flanegin wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: jim flanegin wrote: snip Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by-informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! 26 years ago- people change. Namaste Sir Jim Ji, i must politely ask.., are you certain people change? Are you exactly the same as 26 years ago? Sir Jim Ji..,this is not about me. This newsgroup is about one- Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma Shristava and his (C)onfused (P)ersonal (I)deology. Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. That's because Bevan and Greg *are* babies. Sir Jim Ji..i must humbily remind you- those two are your future maharishis or rajas or whatever you are going to call them. Sir Jim Ji.., it maybe real soon Bevan Morris is your GuruJi. Hi Stephen, Based on what you say immediately preceeding this, that BM may soon be my GuruJi, I can appreciate what your intent here is. I get that- that you are exposing some of the paradoxical nature of Maharishi, and that he isn't perfect, etc, etc, etc. No Problem. I already see that and accept that. As for my GuruJi, I am totally sold out to Brahmananda Saraswati and Shiva. Locked In. Since 1980 I have been a close devotee of 'Guru Dev' and recently Shiva. So those other two you mention aren't even close. Jai Guru Dev. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! Yea, but look at it this way. How long do you thing Coldblue will continue to indulge Lawson. Now there is a nut, (wait, why am I using that term), not easily cracked. (Maybe this is the understand of the year) lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Dude, you came through with a response. I thought maybe I had silenced that prolific tongue. I'm sure the one you refer to as lil Mishmashi, will make propa arrangements when the time comes. Please excuse my somewhat brief response. I'm coming off a little bit of a rough day. Ever had one of those? lurk (Steve) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: snip Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! Yea, but look at it this way. How long do you thing Coldblue will continue to indulge Lawson. Now there is a nut, (wait, why am I using that term), not easily cracked. (Maybe this is the understand of the year) Look at it this way: A judge ruled that the will was valid and that Shatananda COULD have been Shankaracharya according to SBS's wishes except that he wasn't qualified because he wasn't a Sanskrit scholar. SBS obviously knew that Shatananda wasn't a Sanskrit scholar and yet he still put his name first on the will. What is more important, in this case, a committee of scholars, who wanted a scholar, or the legally validated will of SBS? If you agree with the scholars, then one guy was made Shankaracharya. If you agree with SBS, then another was made Shankaracharya. It's that simple. In case you're wondering if appointing an illiterate cook to be head of a monastary over the objections of all the scholars isn't traditional, look up the story of the 6th (and possibly most important) Buddhist Patriarch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huineng To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
Oh, we got one M pundit now in FF. He has been at it chanting every day at the Devi Mandir temple on Burlington Street. Probably everything positive the Tmorg recently points to as having happened has actually come along in that one pundit working on our behalf, separate from the TMorg, don't you think? I don't know what the movement did with the 190 million cash raised but a pundit was brought through the immigration hoops to FF recently pretty easily by private effort. May be the TMorg. should fork some of their money over to others to help if they can't succeed with it. -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip As far as the MGDF having $3 million in cash, that's cash, not investments, which is what constitutes the bulk of the $190 million.You are incorrect in saying that the $190 million in assets of the MGDF is old money from the 1990s. The MGDF was nearly empty after it lost the value of the Global Link stock (which never had any real value, anyway): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/996 Wrong again Bob. The MGDF had net assets of $552 million in 1999. In 2000 it took a loss of $325 million on its investments, primarily Global Link stock, as well as a few others, leaving it with $241 million in net assets at the end of 2000. I wouldn't say that $241 million in assets is nearly empty, in fact it's more than the latest $190 million value of the fund, so your implication that the fund has built itself back up since its big globallink loss is wrong, since the fund has actually declined in value since then. It you analyze the inflows and outflows you'll see that most of the donations since 2000 are being spent on domestic operating expenses or transferred to offshore accounts. The main investments in MGDF have been there since before 2000, primarily real estate, but also a host of other things, including a $1.8 million yacht for example. As far as your initial claim that this fund is funding the pundits with the interest earned on its $190 million in net assets, that just can be as most of its assets are real estate and other non- interest paying investments -- in 2000 the fund earned $175,000 in interest/dividends, in 2004 it earned $185,000. Periodically it sells some real estate for a capital gain. A 1.8 million dollar yacht? I can just see it. Let's get those pundits just outside the US 10mi limit! Or is it to inspire people to start meditating? Retrieve tired yogic flyers from a rough landing at sea? Or was King Tony tired of his house in Fairfield? Pundit vacations? Oh, wait the yacht's just to ferry building materials to the Indian Brahmastan... JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, we got one M pundit now in FF. He has been at it chanting every day at the Devi Mandir temple on Burlington Street. Probably everything positive the Tmorg recently points to as having happened has actually come along in that one pundit working on our behalf, separate from the TMorg, don't you think? I don't know what the movement did with the 190 million cash raised but a pundit was brought through the immigration hoops to FF recently pretty easily by private effort. May be the TMorg. should fork some of their money over to others to help if they can't succeed with it. -Doug in FF Sure. No lack of grandiose selfimportance here. The americans just don't like having big groups moving in. They even denied a small group of Purusha, about 50, to go to Washington together from Greece where they were staying. It wasnt until the old german national leader got very upset and almost yelled at them that he had a nice house in Munich, thank you very much, and had no intention whatsover to move to the USA that they issued visas. Privately he said the USA probably would be the last country in the world he would move to :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, we got one M pundit now in FF. He has been at it chanting every day at the Devi Mandir temple on Burlington Street. Probably everything positive the Tmorg recently points to as having happened has actually come along in that one pundit working on our behalf, separate from the TMorg, don't you think? I don't know what the movement did with the 190 million cash raised but a pundit was brought through the immigration hoops to FF recently pretty easily by private effort. May be the TMorg. should fork some of their money over to others to help if they can't succeed with it. -Doug in FF Sure. No lack of grandiose selfimportance here. The americans just don't like having big groups moving in. They even denied a small group of Purusha, about 50, to go to Washington together from Greece where they were staying. It wasnt until the old german national leader got very upset and almost yelled at them that he had a nice house in Munich, thank you very much, and had no intention whatsover to move to the USA that they issued visas. Privately he said the USA probably would be the last country in the world he would move to :-) Well, those Nazi's...er..Germans certainly have shown us! Now there is a wondeful country, Germany. I can't wait to move there and enjoy the beer and brats and join a national movement to compensate for my low self-esteem. Hopefully I don't have a juden in my past. That would ruin all my chances for racial superiority. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
Peter, More free MMA fights from England: http://www.jiujitsugear.com/forum/index.php/topic,66239.0.html Kimo is one of the fighters! But their are a lot of great match ups here. Don't miss Ribeiro's incredible Jiu-jitsu. You need Winamp to play them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh, we got one M pundit now in FF. He has been at it chanting every day at the Devi Mandir temple on Burlington Street. Probably everything positive the Tmorg recently points to as having happened has actually come along in that one pundit working on our behalf, separate from the TMorg, don't you think? I don't know what the movement did with the 190 million cash raised but a pundit was brought through the immigration hoops to FF recently pretty easily by private effort. May be the TMorg. should fork some of their money over to others to help if they can't succeed with it. -Doug in FF Sure. No lack of grandiose selfimportance here. The americans just don't like having big groups moving in. They even denied a small group of Purusha, about 50, to go to Washington together from Greece where they were staying. It wasnt until the old german national leader got very upset and almost yelled at them that he had a nice house in Munich, thank you very much, and had no intention whatsover to move to the USA that they issued visas. Privately he said the USA probably would be the last country in the world he would move to :-) Well, those Nazi's...er..Germans certainly have shown us! Now there is a wondeful country, Germany. I can't wait to move there and enjoy the beer and brats and join a national movement to compensate for my low self-esteem. Hopefully I don't have a juden in my past. That would ruin all my chances for racial superiority. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, we got one M pundit now in FF. He has been at it chanting every day at the Devi Mandir temple on Burlington Street. Probably everything positive the Tmorg recently points to as having happened has actually come along in that one pundit working on our behalf, separate from the TMorg, don't you think? I don't know what the movement did with the 190 million cash raised but a pundit was brought through the immigration hoops to FF recently pretty easily by private effort. May be the TMorg. should fork some of their money over to others to help if they can't succeed with it. -Doug in FF What's his pay? And who cooks for him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh, we got one M pundit now in FF. He has been at it chanting every day at the Devi Mandir temple on Burlington Street. Probably everything positive the Tmorg recently points to as having happened has actually come along in that one pundit working on our behalf, separate from the TMorg, don't you think? I don't know what the movement did with the 190 million cash raised but a pundit was brought through the immigration hoops to FF recently pretty easily by private effort. May be the TMorg. should fork some of their money over to others to help if they can't succeed with it. -Doug in FF Sure. No lack of grandiose selfimportance here. The americans just don't like having big groups moving in. They even denied a small group of Purusha, about 50, to go to Washington together from Greece where they were staying. It wasnt until the old german national leader got very upset and almost yelled at them that he had a nice house in Munich, thank you very much, and had no intention whatsover to move to the USA that they issued visas. Privately he said the USA probably would be the last country in the world he would move to :-) Well, those Nazi's...er..Germans certainly have shown us! Now there is a wondeful country, Germany. I can't wait to move there and enjoy the beer and brats and join a national movement to compensate for my low self-esteem. Hopefully I don't have a juden in my past. That would ruin all my chances for racial superiority. Can't wait for the next intelligent post from the Dr. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. Pretty weak comparison Bob. There is a great deal more real evidence of the moon landing than there is that money donated to the TMO is actually being used for its announced purpose. Is King Tony in his house? Pundits in Fairfield? Millionare course attendees enlightened? We have a picture, OK. JohnY The problem is that people have their doubts about the TMO and donations going to where they claim it's going. These doubts are base on extremely strong circumstantial evidence and prima facia evidence (the pundits have never arrived). At best the TMO has a PR problem that it doesn't seem to be very interested in addressing. From what I've heard attempts by Bob Wynne and John Hagelin to address this issue to the Fairfield community really didn't do anything to help the situation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The problem is that people have their doubts about the TMO and donations going to where they claim it's going. These doubts are base on extremely strong circumstantial evidence and prima facia evidence (the pundits have never arrived). At best the TMO has a PR problem that it doesn't seem to be very interested in addressing. From what I've heard attempts by Bob Wynne and John Hagelin to address this issue to the Fairfield community really didn't do anything to help the situation. I think I just solved the pundit problem. Obtain visas for them as entertainers and get rich people to sponsor a national tour of one year in one city: Maharishi Vedic City. At the end of the year, sponsor another tour in the same city. Repeat as needed. Entertainers are allowed to bring their own cooks, even, I believe. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
lurker no more2 steve wrote: mark meredith 2002 wrote: Actually I think I may have found it. In 2002, the Maharishi Global Development Fund took in $76 million in donations. $58 million of that was then transferred out to a variety of offshore accounts in the Channel Islands. The primary offshore account is the Brahmanada Saraswati trust which received a $53 million grant that year. This same account received $16 million in 2003 and $10 million in 2004 in grants from the MMY Glb. Dev Acc't, which represents the majority of its own donations for those years. So it seems that US donations to the pundits have gone into the Glb. Dev fund for tax purposes but then get transferred out to an offshore account w here of course they can't be traced any further. I can't imagine what else that $76 million in donations in 2002 could be connected to. Was that the year the millionaire courses started?? Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. I'm still curious where Bob saw the $190 million in cash? PS -- The biggest expense for the MMY Glb Dev fund in 2002 was $2.7 million paid to Equine 121 Consulting in Texas. This must be related to that real estate scandal in texas in which the movement paid a bunch of money to some ex-politician to fix some deal which cost the locals a bunch of money -- anyone remember those details?? Now this blows my mind. Namaste Steve Most politely I must ask-..,Why would this blow your mind? So this money is untraceable from the Channel Islands? Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh has been running this same scam for years. No legal responsibility to account for this as a non profit? No, and as far as the tmo Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh are concerned-.., Its none of your buisness!! Is there any explanation for what happened to these tens of millions of dollars? Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: ** U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. I mistakenly said Global Country of World Peace instead of Global Development Fund the 990 for 2004 shows assets of $208 million (Maharishi Global Development Fund IA 2004 $208,457,893 990 40 52- 2052522), minus liabilities of 18 mil, that leaves $190 million net. You won't find a 990 listing for the Endowment fund for world Peace, because, as their website says at the bottom of the page, it's part of the MGDF and MGANL: Donations to the Endowment Fund for Permanent World Peace, established by the Maharishi Country of World Peace, are tax deductible for US Donors. As far as the MGDF having $3 million in cash, that's cash, not investments, which is what constitutes the bulk of the $190 million.You are incorrect in saying that the $190 million in assets of the MGDF is old money from the 1990s. The MGDF was nearly empty after it lost the value of the Global Link stock (which never had any real value, anyway): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/996 Wrong again Bob. The MGDF had net assets of $552 million in 1999. In 2000 it took a loss of $325 million on its investments, primarily Global Link stock, as well as a few others, leaving it with $241 million in net assets at the end of 2000. I wouldn't say that $241 million in assets is nearly empty, in fact it's more than the latest $190 million value of the fund, so your implication that the fund has built itself back up since its big globallink loss is wrong, since the fund has actually declined in value since then. It you analyze the inflows and outflows you'll see that most of the donations since 2000 are being spent on domestic operating expenses or transferred to offshore accounts. The main investments in MGDF have been there since before 2000, primarily real estate, but also a host of other things, including a $1.8 million yacht for example. As far as your initial claim that this fund is funding the pundits with the interest earned on its $190 million in net assets, that just can be as most of its assets are real estate and other non-interest paying investments -- in 2000 the fund earned $175,000 in interest/dividends, in 2004 it earned $185,000. Periodically it sells some real estate for a capital gain. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
Rick Archer wrote: bob_brigante wrote: mark meredith wrote: snip You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html Namaste Sir Bob. I must politely point out that- *the photograph on your website* is of the Shristava family compound near Jalapur, Madhya Pradesh is the *VERY SAME* property the agents of the tax office of the Indian Goverment raided in 1987. That facility was partially constructed with the money from the- *Great Stuart Zimmerman $100mil. Whirled Peas Scam of 1986*. snip how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, Namaste Sir Archer, I don't think it would be all that difficult.., if the in fact there was another property other than the Shrivstava Family compound. if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip As far as the MGDF having $3 million in cash, that's cash, not investments, which is what constitutes the bulk of the $190 million.You are incorrect in saying that the $190 million in assets of the MGDF is old money from the 1990s. The MGDF was nearly empty after it lost the value of the Global Link stock (which never had any real value, anyway): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/996 Wrong again Bob. The MGDF had net assets of $552 million in 1999. In 2000 it took a loss of $325 million on its investments, primarily Global Link stock, as well as a few others, leaving it with $241 million in net assets at the end of 2000. I wouldn't say that $241 million in assets is nearly empty, in fact it's more than the latest $190 million value of the fund, so your implication that the fund has built itself back up since its big globallink loss is wrong, since the fund has actually declined in value since then. It you analyze the inflows and outflows you'll see that most of the donations since 2000 are being spent on domestic operating expenses or transferred to offshore accounts. The main investments in MGDF have been there since before 2000, primarily real estate, but also a host of other things, including a $1.8 million yacht for example. As far as your initial claim that this fund is funding the pundits with the interest earned on its $190 million in net assets, that just can be as most of its assets are real estate and other non-interest paying investments -- in 2000 the fund earned $175,000 in interest/dividends, in 2004 it earned $185,000. Periodically it sells some real estate for a capital gain. A 1.8 million dollar yacht? I can just see it. Let's get those pundits just outside the US 10mi limit! Or is it to inspire people to start meditating? Retrieve tired yogic flyers from a rough landing at sea? Or was King Tony tired of his house in Fairfield? Pundit vacations? Oh, wait the yacht's just to ferry building materials to the Indian Brahmastan... JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. I'm familiar with 2 charitable projects in india and both say it costs about $1/day to feed, house and educate an indian child. That's $365 per year per child. Now these are pretty basic operations, so let's say it costs 35% more for the tmo, or $500 per year. $500 x 7,000 is $3.5 million to support a 7000 group. In the mid-80s, the original planned group of 7000 pundits was financed by old man Zimmerman and I remember him pledging $2 million per year for that, maybe it was $2.5 million, that's what they figured then it would cost. So I think the guestimate of $3.5 million today is probably close. Anyone else here have actually experience in this area??? PS - of course zimmerman backed out of the project after a few years supposedly after having hired an auditor to research how his money was being spent in india. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. What is this about the Kaplans recently giving $16 Million? Where did you get that info from? Doesn't sound like anything the Kaplans would do now after all that has happenned with them. What, exactly, happened to them? My understanding is that they put a chunk of money in a joint bank account, with the verbal understanding that it would be used to pay taxes, and instead it was used for something else. Not a good way to keep a major donor happy, but what happened to them, personally? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. Pretty weak comparison Bob. There is a great deal more real evidence of the moon landing than there is that money donated to the TMO is actually being used for its announced purpose. Is King Tony in his house? Pundits in Fairfield? Millionare course attendees enlightened? We have a picture, OK. JohnY The problem is that people have their doubts about the TMO and donations going to where they claim it's going. These doubts are base on extremely strong circumstantial evidence and prima facia evidence (the pundits have never arrived). At best the TMO has a PR problem that it doesn't seem to be very interested in addressing. From what I've heard attempts by Bob Wynne and John Hagelin to address this issue to the Fairfield community really didn't do anything to help the situation. I have bought stuff now and again from their catalogues, but as far as donations I wouldn't give them a nickel. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: ** U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. Actually I think I may have found it. In 2002, the Maharishi Global Development Fund took in $76 million in donations. $58 million of that was then transferred out to a variety of offshore accounts in the Channel Islands. The primary offshore account is the Brahmanada Saraswati trust which received a $53 million grant that year. This same account received $16 million in 2003 and $10 million in 2004 in grants from the MMY Glb. Dev Acc't, which represents the majority of its own donations for those years. So it seems that US donations to the pundits have gone into the Glb. Dev fund for tax purposes but then get transferred out to an offshore account where of course they can't be traced any further. I can't imagine what else that $76 million in donations in 2002 could be connected to. Was that the year the millionaire courses started?? Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. I'm still curious where Bob saw the $190 million in cash? PS -- The biggest expense for the MMY Glb Dev fund in 2002 was $2.7 million paid to Equine 121 Consulting in Texas. This must be related to that real estate scandal in texas in which the movement paid a bunch of money to some ex-politician to fix some deal which cost the locals a bunch of money -- anyone remember those details?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: ** U.S. non-profits are required to file an IRS form 990, which lists their income and assets. For 2004, the Global Country of World Peace listed a balance of $190 million dollars. Anybody can verify this by going to http://www.guidestar.org , completing the free registration, and looking at the 990 information using the search term Maharishi. Form 990 for 2004 shows net assets of only $10.2 million for the Global Country of World Peace. $8.5 million for the prior year. I can't find any independent filing entity related to maharishi endowment for world peace. The Global Country seems to deal solely with vedic city stuff, nothing about India. Where exactly are you finding $190 million balance in cash? The Global Development Fund is the largest maharishi entity in the US with over $200 million in net assets but that's primarily old money from the 90s with only $3 million in cash. I mistakenly said Global Country of World Peace instead of Global Development Fund the 990 for 2004 shows assets of $208 million (Maharishi Global Development Fund IA 2004 $208,457,893 990 40 52- 2052522), minus liabilities of 18 mil, that leaves $190 million net. You won't find a 990 listing for the Endowment fund for world Peace, because, as their website says at the bottom of the page, it's part of the MGDF and MGANL: Donations to the Endowment Fund for Permanent World Peace, established by the Maharishi Country of World Peace, are tax deductible for US Donors. Maharishi Global Country of World Peace currently operates in the United States as a division of Maharishi Global Administration through Natural Law (MGANL). MGANL (including its divisions) is a Section 501(c)(3) organization, exempt from tax. As with any charitable contribution, donors should consult a tax advisor regarding any personal tax considerations that could limit their deduction. http://www.worldpeaceendowment.org/endowment1.html#endowment As far as the MGDF having $3 million in cash, that's cash, not investments, which is what constitutes the bulk of the $190 million.You are incorrect in saying that the $190 million in assets of the MGDF is old money from the 1990s. The MGDF was nearly empty after it lost the value of the Global Link stock (which never had any real value, anyway): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/996 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html TM pundit compound in Brahmastan of India, intended to purify the atmosphere of India The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION! on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I think I may have found it. In 2002, the Maharishi Global Development Fund took in $76 million in donations. $58 million of that was then transferred out to a variety of offshore accounts in the Channel Islands. The primary offshore account is the Brahmanada Saraswati trust which received a $53 million grant that year. This same account received $16 million in 2003 and $10 million in 2004 in grants from the MMY Glb. Dev Acc't, which represents the majority of its own donations for those years. So it seems that US donations to the pundits have gone into the Glb. Dev fund for tax purposes but then get transferred out to an offshore account where of course they can't be traced any further. I can't imagine what else that $76 million in donations in 2002 could be connected to. Was that the year the millionaire courses started?? Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. I'm still curious where Bob saw the $190 million in cash? PS -- The biggest expense for the MMY Glb Dev fund in 2002 was $2.7 million paid to Equine 121 Consulting in Texas. This must be related to that real estate scandal in texas in which the movement paid a bunch of money to some ex-politician to fix some deal which cost the locals a bunch of money -- anyone remember those details?? Now this blows my mind. So this money is untraceable from the Channel Islands? No legal responsibility to account for this as a non profit? Is there any explanation for what happened to these tens of millions of dollars? Lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this blows my mind. So this money is untraceable from the Channel Islands? No legal responsibility to account for this as a non profit? Is there any explanation for what happened to these tens of millions of dollars? Lurk And the TMO and I assume MMY feels no moral obligation to inform others where this money is and how it is being spent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. What is this about the Kaplans recently giving $16 Million? Where did you get that info from? Doesn't sound like anything the Kaplans would do now after all that has happenned with them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this blows my mind. So this money is untraceable from the Channel Islands? No legal responsibility to account for this as a non profit? Is there any explanation for what happened to these tens of millions of dollars? Lurk And the TMO and I assume MMY feels no moral obligation to inform others where this money is and how it is being spent. Can YOU walk into any charity and demand to see the accounting books? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. What is this about the Kaplans recently giving $16 Million? Where did you get that info from? Doesn't sound like anything the Kaplans would do now after all that has happenned with them. What, exactly, happened to them? My understanding is that they put a chunk of money in a joint bank account, with the verbal understanding that it would be used to pay taxes, and instead it was used for something else. Not a good way to keep a major donor happy, but what happened to them, personally? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. Pretty weak comparison Bob. There is a great deal more real evidence of the moon landing than there is that money donated to the TMO is actually being used for its announced purpose. Is King Tony in his house? Pundits in Fairfield? Millionare course attendees enlightened? We have a picture, OK. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. What is this about the Kaplans recently giving $16 Million? Where did you get that info from? Doesn't sound like anything the Kaplans would do now after all that has happenned with them. That would probably be the other Kaplans. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. Pretty weak comparison Bob. There is a great deal more real evidence of the moon landing than there is that money donated to the TMO is actually being used for its announced purpose. Is King Tony in his house? Pundits in Fairfield? Millionare course attendees enlightened? We have a picture, OK. JohnY Indeed we do! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rmy108 rmy108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/1/06 5:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: Anyway, unless someone can get records from a private offshore account we don't know how the pundit donations have been used. *** You know how the pundit donations have been used when you see bldgs housing pundits all over India -- here's a photo of the one in the Brahmastan of India: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html The income from the $87 million donated to the pundit project in India can't be more than ~$8 million a year, even if they're getting top returns in their investments. This is a very modest sum when you're talking about housing and supporting many thousands of pundits. how hard would it be for the TMO to publish comprehensive list with photos of all such facilities, if others exist, along with what it cost to build each one? That would dispel all this speculation about embezzlement by the nephews. ** Aside from a handful of posters on this list, and some TMexers, who thinks that the interest from the $87 mil raised on the millionaires' course is not going to do pundit stuff in India, as promised? I don't hear any complaints from the people who donated, and the Kaplans recently gave another $16 million for the project, which says that the people who gave to do the pundit thing in India are confident that that is what is happening. There are people who think that the U.S. never landed people on the moon, despite the overwhelming evidence that they did, and those who are not satisfied that the TMO is spending the money on legit pundit projects are similarly not going to be satisfied with any documentation. It may be the case that some administrators of the TM movement in India are driving Mercedes (instead of Tatas or whatever that the local junk car is), but this really does not mean anything -- the TMO is doing the right thing in India to restore Vedic culture, and if you don't believe it, well, then you don't believe it and you can put together a documentary for PBS like those 6% of folks who don't think the U.S. put astronauts on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations The TMO is going for the effect of restoring Vedic culture -- not for convincing people who are only interested in slinging mud that they are wasting their time. What is this about the Kaplans recently giving $16 Million? Where did you get that info from? Doesn't sound like anything the Kaplans would do now after all that has happenned with them. What, exactly, happened to them? My understanding is that they put a chunk of money in a joint bank account, with the verbal understanding that it would be used to pay taxes, and instead it was used for something else. Not a good way to keep a major donor happy, but what happened to them, personally? *** I wasn't talking about David and Earl Kaplan, but about the Kaplans (no relation) who just gave $16 mil to the pundits in India. Regardless of the rumors about David and Earl, they were required to pay the TMO several millions when they asked Purusha and MD to leave Boone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
