Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Well if you want your counterargument to rise above you are a poopy pants level intellectually Buck, you need to show us what you disagree with. Calling me a skeptic is a compliment concerning noticing bad reasons to support outrageous beliefs. John Hegelin is just as much of a skeptic about George as I am so you can also apply your reasoning to the heads of the movement. But as far as George being fine, you can't have it both ways. Either he talked to Maharishi and Guru Dev from beyond the grave or he didn't. If you believe he did, then you need to discard much of Maharishi's central teaching. I will make a list after my shows today of all the things you need to accept Maharishi was wrong about if you take George at his word. Here is a little teaser. If you don't transcend to the absolute in TM, only you own mind, you can say buh by to your beloved Maharish effect of the domes. In fact the sidhis themselves were just something Maharishi was trying out, and not important for self knowledge, so no more world peace through smelling other people's stinky feet in the dome twice a day. Maharishi was wrong about that as he found out when he died and didn't merge with the absolute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om Jeez, You skeptical guys are so in the small mind and ignorant of these things it is pathetic. George Hammond is quite okay. -Buck in the Dome In FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups it was written: ..that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. mjackson74@... wrote : I will have to look back at the video but I believe he also claimed to have been Shankara's daddy too. At any rate whatever success he had in the relative world he's not making much of a showing now - he only seems to impress TM junkies and I'll believe anything cuz I am a spiritual person like Buck. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV Well if you want your counterargument to rise above you are a poopy pants level intellectually Buck, you need to show us what you disagree with. Calling me a skeptic is a compliment concerning noticing bad reasons to support outrageous beliefs. John Hegelin is just as much of a skeptic about George as I am so you can also apply your reasoning to the heads of the movement. But as far as George being fine, you can't have it both ways. Either he talked to Maharishi and Guru Dev from beyond the grave or he didn't. And either their own version of what all of these religions and religious leaders taught is correct, or George's version is. The twain can never meet, because in almost all cases, George's version of both what the teaching was about and what its intent was is completely different than what the creators of the religious tradition stated. If you believe he did, then you need to discard much of Maharishi's central teaching. Exactly. George's spiel really appeals only to the feeble-minded who are not willing to sit down and notice the contradictions it raises. That's why I'm somewhat horrified to think that Jerry Jarvis -- given how strong his mind and his cognitive processes once were -- might be one of the feeble-minded. I will make a list after my shows today of all the things you need to accept Maharishi was wrong about if you take George at his word. Here is a little teaser. If you don't transcend to the absolute in TM, only you own mind, you can say buh by to your beloved Maharish effect of the domes. In fact the sidhis themselves were just something Maharishi was trying out, and not important for self knowledge, so no more world peace through smelling other people's stinky feet in the dome twice a day. Maharishi was wrong about that as he found out when he died and didn't merge with the absolute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om Jeez, You skeptical guys are so in the small mindand ignorant of these things it is pathetic. George Hammond is quiteokay.-Buck in the Dome In FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups it was written: ..that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. mjackson74@... wrote : I will have to look back at the video but I believe he also claimed to have been Shankara's daddy too. At any rate whatever success he had in the relative world he's not making much of a showing now - he only seems to impress TM junkies and I'll believe anything cuz I am a spiritual person like Buck. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
And isn't it interesting that M always said the past is past when asked about
past lives and here G Hammond is blabbering about what an important guy he was
back in the past.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Xeno,
These are good points. Apparently, Hammond has read about the characters he
mentioned and has personally identified with them to the point that he believes
he was those persons in his past incarnations.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
I find it interesting when people talk of past lives, no matter what group,
they always seem to be someone important, or close to those who are close to
someone important within the culture of the people they are speaking to. They
are never a no-name beggar dying in some unknown town. Or a fish in the sea, or
a potato plant, or a devious lawyer, or an insect squashed by the flick of some
animal's tail, or a scheming despot. It is always something edifying to an ego
and the collective ego of the audience.
How nice to have been near Jesus, or whatever, rather than some grunt who
laboured in the fields and barely made it through each day.
Human memory of even this single life past is malleable, and memories change
with recalling, often being completely wrong as far as actual fact. I think
Curtis' observation that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and
its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to
be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and
came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of
these religions in his previous life.
I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his
stories are coming from a delusional mind.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He
also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left
to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was.
Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz
I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions
for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still
needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was
offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto
Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!)
Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature
including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu
with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time.
But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash
as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It
shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can
kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole
personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain.
It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout
his career.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual
father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM
supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about
wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him.
From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew
the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in
all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart
man with interesting interests.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Similar thing happened to David Icke. He was a successful footballer and TV commentator before he had a vision and started claiming to be the son of God and making his family wear turquoise track suits. Everyone laughed at him to his face, but I felt sorry for him, it was obvious he'd had some sort of breakdown. He had to build a belief system to explain it out of stuff he found in society, channellers and any mystic he ran into, and then he met someone who'd seen giant reptiles and the rest is history (and if it isn't you've got some eyebrow raising books to read). Icke's mind healed round his delusions and he functions without seeming baffled by it himself. Makes a lot of money too. I don't think George will though, it was just too out there to be credible. All these deities all being friends just sent me into an objectivity frenzy. There are nice fantasies and there is new age drivel and this went beyond what I could shrug off and I know people who channel Jesus! But I think you may have hit a nail on the head there Curtis, he the reason to ask the question and he had a belief system ready and waiting with sympathetic friends to encourage him. I think if I was close to him I would have been concerned, but to see it on TV I assumed he was aware and happy with what was going on and not just as a personal reality. He wanted us to receive it because he can't tell the difference. I didn't think to feel like he might be needing need help, but then you've got to feel like you do to need it don't you? You've awakened a humility in me. I just hope he's as happy with his new world as David Icke is with his. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I am a brain guy. I think we need to get to the bottom of how it functions before we can even start to make claims beyond what it produces and dealing with worlds like what happens after we die and the brain rots away. (or gets burned away before it rots.) From what I could tell with Maharishi, he was not exempt from his brain function slowing down with age and it affecting who he was. Fundamentally, he changed as he grew older just like everyone else. The brain is my God. So let's look at what the brain is capable of. Some patients who have a certain kind of stroke in a specific part of their brain go physically blind. It is mechanical, the brain cannot process what the optic nerve brings in, or it is the optic nerve itself that goes out, I don't know, but they can't see. Oddly, their brain immediately creates such a compelling replica of sensory experience, that the person is incapable of distinguishing this self generated experience from that of seeing the outer world. It takes doctors some time and many proof tests to convince these patients that this world their brain has cooked up, does not exist outside their mind. They cannot tell. And like in so many other cases of our brain's limitations they are incensed at first to be challenged on this fundamental distinction. It is really hard to accept this harsh truth about our fallibility. Because the mind is always creating what we call our perceptions out of the flimsy sensory data of our world, this is not a new thing really. What is new is that it is capable of it without any outside reference point. I don't have to doubt that George was in a waking state when he had the experience of talking with Maharishi and others for a prolonged period of time. This is what the brain does for us to see a plate as a plate. What is different is that we don't have to go to the theory that it really was an external Maharishi that he was talking with in such detail. This is not even rare. We are Olympic level mis-percievers and worse analyzers of our limitations. We think we are great at fundamental things that we really suck at. Like distinguishing fact from fantasy in altered brain states. Totally suck at this. Let's look at what bought this on. Barry was on to something with his connection of fear of death. George's sister had died, completely out of the blue, no warning, It was a total shock. I know someone who just went through something similar and had a mental breakdown. When he went to the doctor for some relief, the doctor explained to him what happens to the brain under extreme stress and shock. In a phrase: it F's up. All bets are off for what can happen when your brain goes through this. The normal processing functions are plunged into malfunctions. You can have extended conversations with dead people. Whatever the brain can find to alleviate the stress, it will do. In his case he became almost catatonic and incapable of working for a while. His brain just said, F it all peace out. He was not a flakey person. He was a working professional just like George. His brain just had enough and it quit. George's experience is not unheard of, doctors know all about it. What is unique is that he had a belief system that
[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Beautifully put, Curtis. And I agree totally. To me George seems (via internet) a genuinely sincere person and he is responding to entirelyreal perceptions of his. Like most people with hallucinations and other similar brain events, he probably has no way to know what is real real and what seems just as real but is only a function of some neurological events over which he has no control. And given the spiritual background and books over the last many years, it can be impossible to tease apart the healthy metaphysical and the wires gone awry.To me a tip off to this is that his ideas from his books sound awfully similar to the ideas from The Movement men he has been communing with. Yes this could happen to any of us. Given the right set of circumstances. He seems like a really smart, good person - and as you said, a hug and some good help and understanding are what is needed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
I really appreciate that. Where did you find his books? I think you are on to something there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : Beautifully put, Curtis. And I agree totally. To me George seems (via internet) a genuinely sincere person and he is responding to entirelyreal perceptions of his. Like most people with hallucinations and other similar brain events, he probably has no way to know what is real real and what seems just as real but is only a function of some neurological events over which he has no control. And given the spiritual background and books over the last many years, it can be impossible to tease apart the healthy metaphysical and the wires gone awry.To me a tip off to this is that his ideas from his books sound awfully similar to the ideas from The Movement men he has been communing with. Yes this could happen to any of us. Given the right set of circumstances. He seems like a really smart, good person - and as you said, a hug and some good help and understanding are what is needed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual
father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM
supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about
wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him.
From: waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on
Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super
interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very
successful and smart man with interesting interests. #yiv5524117180
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[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Thanks, that is fascinating. I think this is why John Helgelin said it sounded more like George than Maharishi when he heard some of the message. There was a moment when he claimed that Maharishi used an analogy of driving your family on vacation and the car breaking down and getting upset and spoiling the vacation by yelling at everyone instead of just hanging out and enjoying yourself near your broken down car. It was supposed to be what happened in the movement. Maharishi would NEVER use that analogy but bunch of kids George sure would. Funny how each book is one of his incarnations. I wish he would just say: hey this is my creative process, I was just F'ing with all y'all. Somehow I think instead we are just gunna see a Brighu book in the list soon. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
I find it interesting when people talk of past lives, no matter what group, they always seem to be someone important, or close to those who are close to someone important within the culture of the people they are speaking to. They are never a no-name beggar dying in some unknown town. Or a fish in the sea, or a potato plant, or a devious lawyer, or an insect squashed by the flick of some animal's tail, or a scheming despot. It is always something edifying to an ego and the collective ego of the audience. How nice to have been near Jesus, or whatever, rather than some grunt who laboured in the fields and barely made it through each day. Human memory of even this single life past is malleable, and memories change with recalling, often being completely wrong as far as actual fact. I think Curtis' observation that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
I will have to look back at the video but I believe he also claimed to have
been Shankara's daddy too. At any rate whatever success he had in the relative
world he's not making much of a showing now - he only seems to impress TM
junkies and I'll believe anything cuz I am a spiritual person like Buck.
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Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He
also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left
to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was.
Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz
I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions
for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still
needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was
offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto
Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!)
Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature
including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu
with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time.
But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash
as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It
shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can
kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole
personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain.
It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout
his career.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual
father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM
supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about
wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him.
From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew
the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in
all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart
man with interesting interests.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Yeah, what did George do to get to hang out with all these luminaries? Did Maharishi even know who George was back in the day? On 12/01/2014 06:47 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I find it interesting when people talk of past lives, no matter what group, they always seem to be someone important, or close to those who are close to someone important within the culture of the people they are speaking to. They are never a no-name beggar dying in some unknown town. Or a fish in the sea, or a potato plant, or a devious lawyer, or an insect squashed by the flick of some animal's tail, or a scheming despot. It is always something edifying to an ego and the collective ego of the audience. How nice to have been near Jesus, or whatever, rather than some grunt who laboured in the fields and barely made it through each day. Human memory of even this single life past is malleable, and memories change with recalling, often being completely wrong as far as actual fact. I think Curtis' observation that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. *From:* wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Om Jeez, You skeptical guys are so in the small mind and ignorant of these things it is pathetic. George Hammond is quite okay. -Buck in the Dome In FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups it was written: ..that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. mjackson74@... wrote : I will have to look back at the video but I believe he also claimed to have been Shankara's daddy too. At any rate whatever success he had in the relative world he's not making much of a showing now - he only seems to impress TM junkies and I'll believe anything cuz I am a spiritual person like Buck. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
[FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Xeno, These are good points. Apparently, Hammond has read about the characters he mentioned and has personally identified with them to the point that he believes he was those persons in his past incarnations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I find it interesting when people talk of past lives, no matter what group, they always seem to be someone important, or close to those who are close to someone important within the culture of the people they are speaking to. They are never a no-name beggar dying in some unknown town. Or a fish in the sea, or a potato plant, or a devious lawyer, or an insect squashed by the flick of some animal's tail, or a scheming despot. It is always something edifying to an ego and the collective ego of the audience. How nice to have been near Jesus, or whatever, rather than some grunt who laboured in the fields and barely made it through each day. Human memory of even this single life past is malleable, and memories change with recalling, often being completely wrong as far as actual fact. I think Curtis' observation that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
Bhairitu, His mind just made it up. But he thinks he was one of them and was with them in his past life. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Yeah, what did George do to get to hang out with all these luminaries? Did Maharishi even know who George was back in the day? On 12/01/2014 06:47 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I find it interesting when people talk of past lives, no matter what group, they always seem to be someone important, or close to those who are close to someone important within the culture of the people they are speaking to. They are never a no-name beggar dying in some unknown town. Or a fish in the sea, or a potato plant, or a devious lawyer, or an insect squashed by the flick of some animal's tail, or a scheming despot. It is always something edifying to an ego and the collective ego of the audience. How nice to have been near Jesus, or whatever, rather than some grunt who laboured in the fields and barely made it through each day. Human memory of even this single life past is malleable, and memories change with recalling, often being completely wrong as far as actual fact. I think Curtis' observation that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:wayback71@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
The fragility Curtis spoke of showed up most for me when George was
supposedly channeling one of his many gods talking to Jews. Sorry, but no one
but a diehard Zionist gets all choked up the way he did at the thought of some
batch of gods giving Palestine to them to compensate for the Holocaust (which
George interpreted as 'human sacrifice'). THAT was a person so emotionally out
of control as to barely be holding it together. IMO, of course.
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
I find it interesting when people talk of past lives, no matter what group,
they always seem to be someone important, or close to those who are close to
someone important within the culture of the people they are speaking to. They
are never a no-name beggar dying in some unknown town. Or a fish in the sea, or
a potato plant, or a devious lawyer, or an insect squashed by the flick of some
animal's tail, or a scheming despot. It is always something edifying to an ego
and the collective ego of the audience.
How nice to have been near Jesus, or whatever, rather than some grunt who
laboured in the fields and barely made it through each day.
Human memory of even this single life past is malleable, and memories change
with recalling, often being completely wrong as far as actual fact. I think
Curtis' observation that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and
its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to
be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and
came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of
these religions in his previous life.
I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his
stories are coming from a delusional mind.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He
also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left
to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was.
Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz
I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions
for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still
needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was
offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto
Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!)
Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature
including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu
with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time.
But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash
as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It
shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can
kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole
personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain.
It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout
his career.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual
father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM
supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about
wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him.
From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew
the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in
all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart
man with interesting interests.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om Jeez, You skeptical guys are so in the small mind and ignorant of these things it is pathetic. George Hammond is quite okay. I'm sure he's OK as a person Buck, what everyone is getting at as that his vision was obviously internally generated from cultural beliefs he (and we) are all steeped in. I think Curtis and Barry have come up with a good mechanism that explains it in terms we already understand very well rather than relying on things we have no explanation for. Other than very uncomfortable ones that make no sense. I remember from the TMO and Bible class that the world's different religions have different concepts of what happens after death, and yet here are the gods all hanging out together. Were they lying to us before? I thought George was a sweet but deluded guy, I felt sorry for him more than I felt inspired by anything he had to say. -Buck in the Dome In FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups it was written: ..that Hammond seemed 'fragile', might be a telling point. IMO, Hammond is delusional. It's apparent that he likes the TM movement and its tradition to the point of believing that he was once Bhrigu. He appears to be synthesizing his knowledge of the various religions and philosophies and came to the conclusion that he was once involved with the leading figures of these religions in his previous life. I'm sure he believes in what he is saying. But people will realize that his stories are coming from a delusional mind. mjackson74@... wrote : I will have to look back at the video but I believe he also claimed to have been Shankara's daddy too. At any rate whatever success he had in the relative world he's not making much of a showing now - he only seems to impress TM junkies and I'll believe anything cuz I am a spiritual person like Buck. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was. Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it. It is odd to me cuz I would think that as a former Brighu he should be able to make such decisions for himself, right? He had been Plato and a disciple of Jesus and he still needed daddy Maharishi's permission? That part was a bit slippery as if he was offloading the responsibility for making such an outrageous claim onto Maharishi. The guru made me do it! (Said in Flip Wilson's Laugh In voice!) Shankara was the incarnation of Vyasa who wrote lots of the Vedic literature including the Gita. In Hinduism, Veda Vyasa was considered to be part Vishnu with Krishna being all Vishnu all the time. But I don't think we can begrudge the guy his success. He made a bundle of cash as a lawyer and he has a hobby, being whatever it was he was laying down. It shows how complicated people are and how really energetic driven people can kick ass in business, while not being exactly consistent through their whole personality. Also think of the hutzpa this guy could direct for his own gain. It doesn't surprise me that he kinda believed in himself a little throughout his career. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : how successful can he be when he is in essence claiming to be the spiritual father of the whole TM Movement and the so called holy tradition from whence TM supposedly came by being Shankara's daddy in the ancient times? Talk about wanting attention - man oh man. His sister's passing seems to have unhinged him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George critique from my own POV apassionforwisdom.com upper right corner has a books tab. Books on Andrew the Apostle, Pythagorus, Plato, God, physics, He has been super interested in all this for years. Gives speeches. Sounds like a very successful and smart man with interesting interests.
