--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
From Adam
I am against TM having had a bad experience of it. At the age of 14 I
read a book called `Tranquility without Pills' which was all about
Transcendental Meditation. I was extremely inspired and set about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:57 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Irmeli wrote:
Adam's description makes me think that he maybe incapable of
naturally in a healing way contain the emotional releases TM-
practice has activated in him.
Through his Buddhist practices he can continue escaping connection
in a feeling level to
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:09 AM, cardemaister wrote:
It seems to me Maharishi thinks the slowing down and occasional
stoppage of breathing during TM is what Patañjali means by caturthaH
(praaNaayaamaH), because that prolly is (almost?) the conditio sine
qua non of dhaaraNaa (the first part of
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:21 AM, cardemaister wrote:
IMHO, that seems to claim doing kuNDali-yoga (kundalini-yoga)
is useless if one replaces it with saMyama on the nose-interior-
middle (naasikaa-antar-madhya) or something like that. But I might
be utterly wrong...
It's been explained to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Irmeli wrote:
Adam's description makes me think that he maybe incapable of
naturally in a healing way contain the emotional releases TM-
practice has activated in him.
Through his
If people want a simple meditation that will
enable them to develop and maintain peace of
mind
Vaj:
In the oral tradition of Patanjali it is taught
that the finest meditation is meditation on the
patch of skin between the nostrils...
You probably got this meditation mixed up
On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Irmeli wrote:
The basic TM-technique is a rather gentle technique. If someone
gets problems from paracticing it 20 minutes twice a day for a
while, I find it likely that the person has some sort of fragility
in him. It must have manifested already in many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:21 AM, cardemaister wrote:
IMHO, that seems to claim doing kuNDali-yoga (kundalini-yoga)
is useless if one replaces it with saMyama on the nose-interior-
middle (naasikaa-antar-madhya) or something
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Irmeli wrote:
The basic TM-technique is a rather gentle technique. If someone
gets problems from paracticing it 20 minutes twice a day for a
while, I find it likely that the person has
Vaj wrote:
On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Irmeli wrote:
The basic TM-technique is a rather gentle technique. If someone gets
problems from paracticing it 20 minutes twice a day for a while, I
find it likely that the person has some sort of fragility in him. It
must have manifested already
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:09 AM, cardemaister wrote:
It seems to me Maharishi thinks the slowing down and occasional
stoppage of breathing during TM is what Patañjali means by caturthaH
(praaNaayaamaH), because that prolly is (almost?) the conditio sine qua non
of dhaaraNaa (the first part of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:09 AM, cardemaister wrote:
It seems to me Maharishi thinks the slowing down and occasional
stoppage of breathing during TM is what Pata�jali means by caturthaH
(praaNaayaamaH), because that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:21 AM, cardemaister wrote:
IMHO, that seems to claim doing kuNDali-yoga (kundalini-yoga)
is useless if one replaces it with saMyama on the nose-interior-
middle (naasikaa-antar-madhya) or something
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
From Adam
[snip]
TM definitely induces and extremely relaxing state of body and mind,
Many seem to agree
but it induces mental fogginess.
Not my experience, or that of most I've encountered.
The effect of TM on me was
On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:50 PM, PaliGap wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend
introductory classes on Buddhist meditation which will introduce them
to breathing meditation as taught
Vaj:
If people want a simple meditation...
If your mind is able to settle naturally of its own accord,
and if you find you are inspired simply to rest in its pure
awareness, then you do not need any method of meditation.
- Sogyal Rinpoche
'The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying'
Rigpa: The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend
introductory classes on Buddhist meditation which will introduce them
to breathing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:50 PM, PaliGap wrote:
snip
It seems a desperate thing to post Vaj.
To you it might, to those who've had the same experience,
it might come as a relief to have their experiences
verified and explained.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend
introductory classes on Buddhist meditation which will introduce them
to breathing
On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:57 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend
introductory classes on
On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend
introductory classes on
Vaj wrote:
On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop
and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend
introductory
On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
I'll take mantra meditation over that any day. The resonances of the
mantra create the transcendence. I tried some of these things before I
learned TM and they didn't have much effect and I'm someone who even
before that had the kundalini rise
Vaj wrote:
It's the post effect that can differ. Remember that
TM claimed increased energy and I don't think a guru would giving
mantras that increase energy to people who needed to calm down.
Increased energy? More like deception of the difference between tension and
relaxation.
PaliGap compost...@... wrote:
It seems a desperate thing to post Vaj.
Yea, what's the point? You don't think you could get someone to relate
experiences that would offset anything said by Adam.
It seems a desperate thing to post Vaj.
To you it might, to those who've had the same experience, it might come as a
relief to have their experiences verified and explained.
You mean in case a new comer just joined or checked in today, or within the
hour? Vaj, it seems to me that you
On Mar 11, 2010, at 8:23 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
PaliGap compost...@... wrote:
It seems a desperate thing to post Vaj.
Yea, what's the point? You don't think you could get someone to relate
experiences that would offset anything said by Adam.
Of course you could. That's what
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