[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?-Lurker alert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Great de-lurk, Bob. Deserves a reply. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > To name just a few highlights the MZ's CV includes: > > > > 1. His UC was confirmed by the Rish himself, in front of a > > large group of witnesses, and then, in a court of law, declared > > invalid. > > Cool. I'd love to hear details. The very concept of > a US court of law declaring a state of consciousness > invalid makes my curiosity glands salivate. I mean, > that's up there with China declaring reincarnation > illegal, unless they approve it first. The court didn't declare his UC invalid, MMY did, in an audiotape that was played for the court. > I fully admit to ideas reincarnating from time to time > in my mind. It's not "from time to time," it's *all* the time. > However, every time I give voice to them, > it's a new voice. Not once on this forum have I inten- > tionally set out to rewrite something I've written > before. No need to set out intentionally to rewrite your ideas. You don't *have* that many, and they've worn deep grooves in your brain by now. They take up all the available space; there's no room for any new ones. You don't have any choice but to recycle the old ones. The very thought of that would never occur > to me, because ideas do. That some of those ideas may > deal with the subject of previous ideas I do not deny. > But in another sense they're original every time. In a *very* limited sense. You put different clothing on them, but what's underneath doesn't change. > > So holy jamoli we finally get a real celebrity and you and > > others turn your formidable guns toward scaring him off. > > That was never my intention, as I suspect even MZ knows. > I was just trying to clue him in a little to the saloon > nature of this place, and that expecting people to react > to him the way they might have in the past just wasn't > likely to fly here. Naah. He was invading what you perceive to be your territory, and you felt the need to assert alpha male status to keep him in his place. Didn't work. He laughed at you. He's still got his teeth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?-Lurker alert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Thanks for the link. Ch. 13 of that book, by Cynthia Ann Hume, is very > interesting. Response: Hume's bio says she has co-written with Dana Sawyer a book on the history of the TM movement in the USA. But I can't find anything published by them yet. It gives an account of RC and his impact on MIU in the early 1980s. I didn't know all that. I was on faculty at the time. I do remember that Greg Wilson was clearly discomfited by his encounters with RC, judging from his manner at a faculty meeting at the time. Greg in those days was something of an obnoxious bully (he's improved with the passing years, I believe), and I remember being rather surprised but not unhappy to see him getting so hot under the collar about RC. > > I also remember those students who were expelled from MIU for following RC. > One of them gained some kind of court order, I believe, that he thought would > entitle him to be admitted to the dome. He brought it with him one morning, > but security would not let him in the dome. > > MIU survived unscathed by the RC episode, as far as I recall, dramatic though > it was for those who were involved in it. Indeed, it came only a short while > before the Taste of Utopia course in December 83, which produced a large > boost in enrollment, an internationalization of the student body -- mainly > Europeans, I think -- and a widening of the degree programs that the > University offered. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > > > Enough is enough Turq, don't you realize MZ is a celebrity. The kind we > > rarely > > see on FFL. Its like Bevan, Charlie or Jerry decided to grace us with their > > presence, someone who actually did something in the TMO. > > > > To name just a few highlights the MZ's CV includes: > > > > 1. His UC was confirmed by the Rish himself, in front of a large group of > > witnesses, and then, in a court of law, declared invalid. > > > > 2. Author of 11 books. > > > > 3. Been the subject academic research > > > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/23659916/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide > > > > (chap 13) > > > > 4. Successfully started his own cult, which included experienced > > initiators. > > > > 5. Actually took on the movement, unlike a lot of the complainers on this > > blog. > > > > 6. Met the Ayatollah > > > > 7. Actually had a confrontation with the man who commercialized > > confrontation. > > > > and so on > > > > Turq, please don't get me wrong. I've been a confirmed lurker on FFL for > > over a > > year and your writing is one of the things that brings me back when I start > > getting bored (although I suspect your writing would be better described as > > re-writing which as we all know is what good writing is). So holy jamoli we > > finally get a real celebrity and you and others turn your formidable guns > > toward > > scaring him off. My goodness, is he that threatening. He's just a zebra, > > granted > > he's masked. > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?-Lurker alert
Thanks for the link. Ch. 13 of that book, by Cynthia Ann Hume, is very interesting. It gives an account of RC and his impact on MIU in the early 1980s. I didn't know all that. I was on faculty at the time. I do remember that Greg Wilson was clearly discomfited by his encounters with RC, judging from his manner at a faculty meeting at the time. Greg in those days was something of an obnoxious bully (he's improved with the passing years, I believe), and I remember being rather surprised but not unhappy to see him getting so hot under the collar about RC. I also remember those students who were expelled from MIU for following RC. One of them gained some kind of court order, I believe, that he thought would entitle him to be admitted to the dome. He brought it with him one morning, but security would not let him in the dome. MIU survived unscathed by the RC episode, as far as I recall, dramatic though it was for those who were involved in it. Indeed, it came only a short while before the Taste of Utopia course in December 83, which produced a large boost in enrollment, an internationalization of the student body -- mainly Europeans, I think -- and a widening of the degree programs that the University offered. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > Enough is enough Turq, don't you realize MZ is a celebrity. The kind we > rarely > see on FFL. Its like Bevan, Charlie or Jerry decided to grace us with their > presence, someone who actually did something in the TMO. > > To name just a few highlights the MZ's CV includes: > > 1. His UC was confirmed by the Rish himself, in front of a large group of > witnesses, and then, in a court of law, declared invalid. > > 2. Author of 11 books. > > 3. Been the subject academic research > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/23659916/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide > > (chap 13) > > 4. Successfully started his own cult, which included experienced initiators. > > 5. Actually took on the movement, unlike a lot of the complainers on this > blog. > > 6. Met the Ayatollah > > 7. Actually had a confrontation with the man who commercialized > confrontation. > > and so on > > Turq, please don't get me wrong. I've been a confirmed lurker on FFL for over > a > year and your writing is one of the things that brings me back when I start > getting bored (although I suspect your writing would be better described as > re-writing which as we all know is what good writing is). So holy jamoli we > finally get a real celebrity and you and others turn your formidable guns > toward > scaring him off. My goodness, is he that threatening. He's just a zebra, > granted > he's masked. > > Robin, please don't pay attention to this type of rudeness. I don't think for > a > moment any of your detractors on FFL could take on any of the characters > you've > taken on. Just ask yourself the question, 'whose story would Hollywood buy, > mine > or Turq's'? Hollywood buys conflict and I know of few people in the New Age > that > survived more conflict than you did. Granted Turq could probably get hired as > a > screenwriter in Hollywood but we all know how writers are treated in that > town. > Your story actually has commercial value and anyone who spent time with > the Rish knows the value of a good story. So MZ, if you're planning to launch > a > new cult I'm your man. I think there's still a bundle to be made. Weak > management may have been the problem last go round. > > Also MZ, unlike a number of the FFL Jackals that have have been chasing you > around the Savannah, I have a bunch of quesions for you. > > For starters: > > What are your thoughts on the Saraswati mantras, where do you think he got > them? > > And Turq, to quote the Twain, "sorry this is so long, I didn't have time to > make > it shorter. > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 10:00:06 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Says who? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: > > > > > > > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > > > > > > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > > > > > > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?-Lurker alert
Great de-lurk, Bob. Deserves a reply. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > Enough is enough Turq, don't you realize MZ is a celebrity. The > kind we rarely see on FFL. Its like Bevan, Charlie or Jerry > decided to grace us with their presence, someone who actually > did something in the TMO. > > To name just a few highlights the MZ's CV includes: > > 1. His UC was confirmed by the Rish himself, in front of a > large group of witnesses, and then, in a court of law, declared > invalid. Cool. I'd love to hear details. The very concept of a US court of law declaring a state of consciousness invalid makes my curiosity glands salivate. I mean, that's up there with China declaring reincarnation illegal, unless they approve it first. > 2. Author of 11 books. > > 3. Been the subject academic research > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/23659916/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide > > (chap 13) > > 4. Successfully started his own cult, which included experienced > initiators. Why am I not surprised? :-) > 5. Actually took on the movement, unlike a lot of the complainers > on this blog. We shall get to this later. > 6. Met the Ayatollah > > 7. Actually had a confrontation with the man who commercialized > confrontation. > > and so on > > Turq, please don't get me wrong. I've been a confirmed lurker > on FFL for over a year and your writing is one of the things > that brings me back when I start getting bored (although I > suspect your writing would be better described as re-writing > which as we all know is what good writing is). I fully admit to ideas reincarnating from time to time in my mind. However, every time I give voice to them, it's a new voice. Not once on this forum have I inten- tionally set out to rewrite something I've written before. The very thought of that would never occur to me, because ideas do. That some of those ideas may deal with the subject of previous ideas I do not deny. But in another sense they're original every time. > So holy jamoli we finally get a real celebrity and you and > others turn your formidable guns toward scaring him off. That was never my intention, as I suspect even MZ knows. I was just trying to clue him in a little to the saloon nature of this place, and that expecting people to react to him the way they might have in the past just wasn't likely to fly here. > My goodness, is he that threatening. He's just a zebra, > granted he's masked. As a completely gratuitous aside, have you ever wondered what product would show up if you scanned a zebra like they were a bar code? :-) For the record, I'm not suggesting that anyone here curtail their exchanges with MZ. I'll probably read many of them, just to see how the latest instance of this trend plays out. I cannot promise to be interested enough to comment on them. > Robin, please don't pay attention to this type of rudeness. I > don't think for a moment any of your detractors on FFL could > take on any of the characters you've taken on. Here's the reason I replied to your post. Why would they want to? Wouldn't you have to be pretty sold on your personal version of Truth to want to argue it with someone, famous or not? Just sayin'... > Just ask yourself the question, 'whose story would Hollywood > buy, mine or Turq's'? Have you read Road Trip Mind? Just kidding. :-) > Hollywood buys conflict and I know of few people in the New > Age that survived more conflict than you did. Granted Turq > could probably get hired as a screenwriter in Hollywood but > we all know how writers are treated in that town. Not well. Got to know a few of them during the time I lived in Malibu. Most of the good ones are working for TV like HBO or Showtime or Starz now. They find it a much more creative environment than movies. > Your story actually has commercial value and anyone who spent > time with the Rish knows the value of a good story. I do so hope that this isn't a final drive-by post, Bob. You've got a touch of Oscar Wilde in you. > So MZ, if you're planning to launch a new cult I'm your man. > I think there's still a bundle to be made. Weak management > may have been the problem last go round. > > Also MZ, unlike a number of the FFL Jackals that have have > been chasing you around the Savannah, I have a bunch of > quesions for you. > > For starters: > > What are your thoughts on the Saraswati mantras, where do > you think he got them? > > And Turq, to quote the Twain, "Sorry this is so long, I > didn't have time to make it shorter." Great quote. I didn't know that one. It is duly copied and consigned to the file I keep on my computer of great quotes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?
On 06/24/2011 10:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant:" ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." ( Who is it "odd" to? Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? >> :I just wonder what the answers to those 3 simple questions >> are and why you are choosing to not answer them, that's all. >> Because you don't answer them, I wonder if you are in fact >> an est, forum or Landmark grad or here specifically to defend >> WE. > For the record, I now assume that this is true, not > only because blastedactresses is avoiding the question > completely, but because he/she only appeared on this > forum when MZ mentioned Erhard. > > ON THE OTHER HAND, I've rarely seen a meltdown > to match MZ's. As I've said before, if it weren't for > mentions of him on this forum I wouldn't have any idea > who Robin Carlson was or is; I had left the TMO long > before he made any loud-frog-in-a-small-pond splash > there. But based on his performance here so far, I'm > inclined to go with those who described him during > that period as nuts. > > First Rick asked some pretty simple and non-threatening > questions of him, and the guy *ignores* the questions > completely and then goes off about all the assumptions > Rick is making about spirituality, enlightenment, what- > ever. And then the drama queen histrionics when I give > him a little ribbing for being such a solipsist that > he doesn't even know when he's being boring. And now > all of this "missionary" crap and hanging on to a > decades-old grudge and paranoia. Gotta say it...Dude's > a loon in my book. > > Sorry, MZ, but you brought it on yourself. I actually > *agree* with some of the things you've said here about > UC not being any kind of ultimate state of consciousness, > but too much is too much. It's not just that you're a > drama queen; it's that you're being a douche. Over and > out. I just love the circus of "me toos" that emerged on the spiritual or guru scene in the 1970s. One that popped up was run by one of my high school buddies who was our student body president and a jock at the university we both attended. I had to laugh when I actually ran into someone "very involved" with his organization.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: > > > > > > > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > > > > > > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > > > > > > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > > > > > > > ( Who is it "odd" to? > > > > > > > > Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? > > > > :I just wonder what the answers to those 3 simple questions > > are and why you are choosing to not answer them, that's all. > > Because you don't answer them, I wonder if you are in fact > > an est, forum or Landmark grad or here specifically to defend > > WE. > > For the record, I now assume that this is true, not > only because blastedactresses is avoiding the question > completely, but because he/she only appeared on this > forum when MZ mentioned Erhard. > > ON THE OTHER HAND, I've rarely seen a meltdown > to match MZ's. As I've said before, if it weren't for > mentions of him on this forum I wouldn't have any idea > who Robin Carlson was or is; I had left the TMO long > before he made any loud-frog-in-a-small-pond splash > there. But based on his performance here so far, I'm > inclined to go with those who described him during > that period as nuts. > > First Rick asked some pretty simple and non-threatening > questions of him, and the guy *ignores* the questions > completely and then goes off about all the assumptions > Rick is making about spirituality, enlightenment, what- > ever. And then the drama queen histrionics when I give > him a little ribbing for being such a solipsist that > he doesn't even know when he's being boring. And now > all of this "missionary" crap and hanging on to a > decades-old grudge and paranoia. Gotta say it...Dude's > a loon in my book. > > Sorry, MZ, but you brought it on yourself. I actually > *agree* with some of the things you've said here about > UC not being any kind of ultimate state of consciousness, > but too much is too much. It's not just that you're a > drama queen; it's that you're being a douche. Over and > out. RESPONSE: Hey, Turq, if my irony won't do it, nothing willand then, for sure, I will have to stop posting here. What a mean guy you are. Do you know what it's like to be hit by this kind of criticism? I think you don't, because if you knew where you had struck me you would have pity on me. It's beginning to really wear me down, having to be pilloried like this again and againespecially by yourself. But if I ever feel you actually have hit the bull's eye, Turq, I will STFU. But as long as I see you shooting wildly and off-target, I will just have to keep offending and boring you. I haven't called you names yet, why are you calling me names? It's not fair (dries an unwanted tear). You don't know how much it hurts to be so beautiful and so misunderstood. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?-Lurker alert
Enough is enough Turq, don't you realize MZ is a celebrity. The kind we rarely see on FFL. Its like Bevan, Charlie or Jerry decided to grace us with their presence, someone who actually did something in the TMO. To name just a few highlights the MZ's CV includes: 1. His UC was confirmed by the Rish himself, in front of a large group of witnesses, and then, in a court of law, declared invalid. 2. Author of 11 books. 3. Been the subject academic research http://www.scribd.com/doc/23659916/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide (chap 13) 4. Successfully started his own cult, which included experienced initiators. 5. Actually took on the movement, unlike a lot of the complainers on this blog. 6. Met the Ayatollah 7. Actually had a confrontation with the man who commercialized confrontation. and so on Turq, please don't get me wrong. I've been a confirmed lurker on FFL for over a year and your writing is one of the things that brings me back when I start getting bored (although I suspect your writing would be better described as re-writing which as we all know is what good writing is). So holy jamoli we finally get a real celebrity and you and others turn your formidable guns toward scaring him off. My goodness, is he that threatening. He's just a zebra, granted he's masked. Robin, please don't pay attention to this type of rudeness. I don't think for a moment any of your detractors on FFL could take on any of the characters you've taken on. Just ask yourself the question, 'whose story would Hollywood buy, mine or Turq's'? Hollywood buys conflict and I know of few people in the New Age that survived more conflict than you did. Granted Turq could probably get hired as a screenwriter in Hollywood but we all know how writers are treated in that town. Your story actually has commercial value and anyone who spent time with the Rish knows the value of a good story. So MZ, if you're planning to launch a new cult I'm your man. I think there's still a bundle to be made. Weak management may have been the problem last go round. Also MZ, unlike a number of the FFL Jackals that have have been chasing you around the Savannah, I have a bunch of quesions for you. For starters: What are your thoughts on the Saraswati mantras, where do you think he got them? And Turq, to quote the Twain, "sorry this is so long, I didn't have time to make it shorter. From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 10:00:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Says who? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: > > > > > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > > > > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > > > > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > > > > > ( Who is it "odd" to? > > > > > > Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? > > :I just wonder what the answers to those 3 simple questions > are and why you are choosing to not answer them, that's all. > Because you don't answer them, I wonder if you are in fact > an est, forum or Landmark grad or here specifically to defend > WE. For the record, I now assume that this is true, not only because blastedactresses is avoiding the question completely, but because he/she only appeared on this forum when MZ mentioned Erhard. ON THE OTHER HAND, I've rarely seen a meltdown to match MZ's. As I've said before, if it weren't for mentions of him on this forum I wouldn't have any idea who Robin Carlson was or is; I had left the TMO long before he made any loud-frog-in-a-small-pond splash there. But based on his performance here so far, I'm inclined to go with those who described him during that period as nuts. First Rick asked some pretty simple and non-threatening questions of him, and the guy *ignores* the questions completely and then goes off about all the assumptions Rick is making about spirituality, enlightenment, what- ever. And then the drama queen histrionics when I give him a little ribbing for being such a solipsist that he doesn't even know when he's being boring. And now all of this "missionary" crap and hanging on to a decades-old grudge and paranoia. Gotta say it...Dude's a loon in my book. Sorry, MZ, but you brought it on yourself. I actually *agree* with some of the things you've said here about UC not being any kind of ultimate state of consciousness, but too much is too much. It's not just that you're a drama queen; it's that you're being a douche. Over and out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: > > > > > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > > > > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > > > > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > > > > > ( Who is it "odd" to? > > > > > > Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? > > :I just wonder what the answers to those 3 simple questions > are and why you are choosing to not answer them, that's all. > Because you don't answer them, I wonder if you are in fact > an est, forum or Landmark grad or here specifically to defend > WE. For the record, I now assume that this is true, not only because blastedactresses is avoiding the question completely, but because he/she only appeared on this forum when MZ mentioned Erhard. ON THE OTHER HAND, I've rarely seen a meltdown to match MZ's. As I've said before, if it weren't for mentions of him on this forum I wouldn't have any idea who Robin Carlson was or is; I had left the TMO long before he made any loud-frog-in-a-small-pond splash there. But based on his performance here so far, I'm inclined to go with those who described him during that period as nuts. First Rick asked some pretty simple and non-threatening questions of him, and the guy *ignores* the questions completely and then goes off about all the assumptions Rick is making about spirituality, enlightenment, what- ever. And then the drama queen histrionics when I give him a little ribbing for being such a solipsist that he doesn't even know when he's being boring. And now all of this "missionary" crap and hanging on to a decades-old grudge and paranoia. Gotta say it...Dude's a loon in my book. Sorry, MZ, but you brought it on yourself. I actually *agree* with some of the things you've said here about UC not being any kind of ultimate state of consciousness, but too much is too much. It's not just that you're a drama queen; it's that you're being a douche. Over and out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: > > > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > > > ( Who is it "odd" to? > > > > Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? :I just wonder what the answers to those 3 simple questions are and why you are choosing to not answer them, that's all. Because you don't answer them, I wonder if you are in fact an est, forum or Landmark grad or here specifically to defend WE. > > I am going to take the case that "odd" is ok on message boards like this > > as people often do not respond to nor make the effort to satisfy other > > posters every question all of the time. ) > > RESPONSE: Ah, the bottom line. We must therefore boycott all your Hollywood > pictures, blastedactresses. Because with this answer you are in contempt of > court. Why not take the Fifth? You are already in too deep. > > But know this, blastedactresses: assuming you ARE an est person and here on > this blog to defend the reputation of Werner, I reach out to you in all > sincerity: You are in a very subtle tranceto the detriment of your beautiful > soul. Werner, he is at bottom (although he doesn't know this) a real hater. > And I can't quite believe how he maims and wounds the innocence of human > beingness. Even as, like you, the est graduate feels no pain, and is on top > of the world. Compute, within the est universe, blastedactresses, this > exchange you have had with persons on this blog. You can't, because it won't > WORK for you. And WORK is what est, The Forum, and Landmark Education is all > about. > > No, Werner and Landmark Education will be taken downnot by me of course. But > the intelligence of loving goodness (my opinion here) behind the universe. > That intelligence hates Werner more than Wernerunconsciouslyhates human > beings. > > Had enough, blastedactresses? > > You see, the proof of everything I have said about Werner is the fact THAT > YOU DO NOT POSSESS THE MENTAL SPACE TO MANOEUVRE YOURSELF INTO A POSITION > SUCH AS TO KNOW YOU HAVE DEALT WITH THIS EXPERIENCE. This is the limitation > of the Werner universe: It can't deliver when it comes up against reality. > > Although of course I will repudiate everything I have said about you > personally if you JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. Are you seeking to effect a > counter-influence to what I initially posted about my experience with Werner? > and have been hard at this project ever since? > > "Everything is grace". I stand behind that. So this too is grace. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Says who?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses wrote: > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > ( Who is it "odd" to? > > Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? > > I am going to take the case that "odd" is ok on message boards like this as > people often do not respond to nor make the effort to satisfy other posters > every question all of the time. ) RESPONSE: Ah, the bottom line. We must therefore boycott all your Hollywood pictures, blastedactresses. Because with this answer you are in contempt of court. Why not take the Fifth? You are already in too deep. But know this, blastedactresses: assuming you ARE an est person and here on this blog to defend the reputation of Werner, I reach out to you in all sincerity: You are in a very subtle tranceto the detriment of your beautiful soul. Werner, he is at bottom (although he doesn't know this) a real hater. And I can't quite believe how he maims and wounds the innocence of human beingness. Even as, like you, the est graduate feels no pain, and is on top of the world. Compute, within the est universe, blastedactresses, this exchange you have had with persons on this blog. You can't, because it won't WORK for you. And WORK is what est, The Forum, and Landmark Education is all about. No, Werner and Landmark Education will be taken downnot by me of course. But the intelligence of loving goodness (my opinion here) behind the universe. That intelligence hates Werner more than Wernerunconsciouslyhates human beings. Had enough, blastedactresses? You see, the proof of everything I have said about Werner is the fact THAT YOU DO NOT POSSESS THE MENTAL SPACE TO MANOEUVRE YOURSELF INTO A POSITION SUCH AS TO KNOW YOU HAVE DEALT WITH THIS EXPERIENCE. This is the limitation of the Werner universe: It can't deliver when it comes up against reality. Although of course I will repudiate everything I have said about you personally if you JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. Are you seeking to effect a counter-influence to what I initially posted about my experience with Werner? and have been hard at this project ever since? "Everything is grace". I stand behind that. So this too is grace. >
