Thanks for the link. Ch. 13 of that book, by Cynthia Ann Hume, is very interesting. It gives an account of RC and his impact on MIU in the early 1980s. I didn't know all that. I was on faculty at the time. I do remember that Greg Wilson was clearly discomfited by his encounters with RC, judging from his manner at a faculty meeting at the time. Greg in those days was something of an obnoxious bully (he's improved with the passing years, I believe), and I remember being rather surprised but not unhappy to see him getting so hot under the collar about RC.
I also remember those students who were expelled from MIU for following RC. One of them gained some kind of court order, I believe, that he thought would entitle him to be admitted to the dome. He brought it with him one morning, but security would not let him in the dome. MIU survived unscathed by the RC episode, as far as I recall, dramatic though it was for those who were involved in it. Indeed, it came only a short while before the Taste of Utopia course in December 83, which produced a large boost in enrollment, an internationalization of the student body -- mainly Europeans, I think -- and a widening of the degree programs that the University offered. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price <bobpriced@...> wrote: > > Enough is enough Turq, don't you realize MZ is a celebrity. The kind we > rarely > see on FFL. Its like Bevan, Charlie or Jerry decided to grace us with their > presence, someone who actually did something in the TMO. > > To name just a few highlights the MZ's CV includes: > > 1. His UC was confirmed by the Rish himself, in front of a large group of > witnesses, and then, in a court of law, declared invalid. > > 2. Author of 11 books. > > 3. Been the subject academic research > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/23659916/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide > > (chap 13) > > 4. Successfully started his own cult, which included experienced initiators. > > 5. Actually took on the movement, unlike a lot of the complainers on this > blog. > > 6. Met the Ayatollah > > 7. Actually had a confrontation with the man who commercialized > confrontation. > > and so on.... > > Turq, please don't get me wrong. I've been a confirmed lurker on FFL for over > a > year and your writing is one of the things that brings me back when I start > getting bored (although I suspect your writing would be better described as > re-writing which as we all know is what good writing is). So holy jamoli we > finally get a real celebrity and you and others turn your formidable guns > toward > scaring him off. My goodness, is he that threatening. He's just a zebra, > granted > he's masked. > > Robin, please don't pay attention to this type of rudeness. I don't think for > a > moment any of your detractors on FFL could take on any of the characters > you've > taken on. Just ask yourself the question, 'whose story would Hollywood buy, > mine > or Turq's'? Hollywood buys conflict and I know of few people in the New Age > that > survived more conflict than you did. Granted Turq could probably get hired as > a > screenwriter in Hollywood but we all know how writers are treated in that > town. > Your story actually has commercial value and anyone who spent time with > the Rish knows the value of a good story. So MZ, if you're planning to launch > a > new cult I'm your man. I think there's still a bundle to be made. Weak > management may have been the problem last go round. > > Also MZ, unlike a number of the FFL Jackals that have have been chasing you > around the Savannah, I have a bunch of quesions for you. > > For starters: > > What are your thoughts on the Saraswati mantras, where do you think he got > them? > > And Turq, to quote the Twain, "sorry this is so long, I didn't have time to > make > it shorter. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 10:00:06 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Says who? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > "Nevertheless, his basic questions are relevant: " > > > > > > > > ( "relevant"? who says what is "relevant"? you and maskedzebra?) > > > > > > > > " The fact that you did not reply to them is odd." > > > > > > > > ( Who is it "odd" to? > > > > > > > > Who says that it IS in fact "odd", you? > > > > :I just wonder what the answers to those 3 simple questions > > are and why you are choosing to not answer them, that's all. > > Because you don't answer them, I wonder if you are in fact > > an est, forum or Landmark grad or here specifically to defend > > WE. > > For the record, I now assume that this is true, not > only because blastedactresses is avoiding the question > completely, but because he/she only appeared on this > forum when MZ mentioned Erhard. > > ON THE OTHER HAND, I've rarely seen a meltdown > to match MZ's. As I've said before, if it weren't for > mentions of him on this forum I wouldn't have any idea > who Robin Carlson was or is; I had left the TMO long > before he made any loud-frog-in-a-small-pond splash > there. But based on his performance here so far, I'm > inclined to go with those who described him during > that period as nuts. > > First Rick asked some pretty simple and non-threatening > questions of him, and the guy *ignores* the questions > completely and then goes off about all the assumptions > Rick is making about spirituality, enlightenment, what- > ever. And then the drama queen histrionics when I give > him a little ribbing for being such a solipsist that > he doesn't even know when he's being boring. And now > all of this "missionary" crap and hanging on to a > decades-old grudge and paranoia. Gotta say it...Dude's > a loon in my book. > > Sorry, MZ, but you brought it on yourself. I actually > *agree* with some of the things you've said here about > UC not being any kind of ultimate state of consciousness, > but too much is too much. It's not just that you're a > drama queen; it's that you're being a douche. Over and > out. >
