--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
Oh shucks. Thanks. It came from the heart.
I am really interested in seeing your worldly/wordy (lol)
review of Inland Empire. I will hold my breath beginning now..
You may breathe now. :-)
Suffice it to say that I think
pf. Thanks.
Many people look for friends who agree with them all the time. Many people
marry people based on like thinking or agreeing. This can be a fatal mistake to
the misdirection of the meaning of being coherent. The bubbles burst with
reality at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
Awe, nabby- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kz7YUdy-Cg Where is your
creative, sense of humor?
The Turq has many other qualities to make fun of, but I give him applauding
credit for the zombies comment and the
Thank you, Nabby. I did not think you were going to answer my rhetorical
question. hahaha
Spiritual, in regards to the Eraserhead film presented is a type of
Christianity version of fear, yet awakening, kind of like the spirituality of
Scared Straight,
Oh shucks. Thanks. It came from the heart.
I am really interested in seeing your worldly/wordy (lol) review of Inland
Empire. I will hold my breath beginning now..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
Thank you, Nabby. I did not think you were going to answer my rhetorical
question. hahaha
Spiritual, in regards to the Eraserhead film presented is a type of
Christianity version of fear, yet awakening, kind of like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
Thank you, Nabby. I did not think you were going to answer my rhetorical
question. hahaha
Spiritual, in regards to the Eraserhead film
the time.
--- On Fri, 9/2/11, John jr_esq@ wrote:
From: John jr_esq@
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The unreasonable price of TM
instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 5:49 PM
Â
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
The TMO needs another person who has good PR, just like MMY and
Deepak Chopra, to spread the message of meditation. Haglin appears
to be the man for the USA.
From what I've heard, Hagelin has been rejected as a candidate for
the new
It would be a waste of time trying to teach someone who is not interested or
motivated about the benefits and implications of meditation.
Not necessarily. When my mother had me learn, I certainly wasn't motivated
about the benefits of TM. It wasn't until I was older that I became curious
I think the theory of King Tony's jyotish chart being a basis for MMY's
decision to make him a pseudo-king is reading into it way too much. I think
the decision making processes in the high end of the TMO was less based on
science or logic, and more like a bunch of wealthy nostalgic 5
Hagelin could take acting lessons, something recommended to doctors who have a
poor beside manner. His speech mannerisms need a lot of work. At the moment
Boris Karloff would be a lot more interesting than Hagelin.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
-- In
Well, he's got the perfect cadence and inflection for the TMO audience.
Anything beyond that, I'm afraid is just plain weird.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Hagelin could take acting lessons, something recommended to doctors
who have a
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Hagelin could take acting lessons, something recommended to doctors
who have a poor beside manner. His speech mannerisms need a lot of
work. At the moment Boris Karloff would be a lot more interesting
than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
Hagelin could take acting lessons, something recommended to doctors
who have a poor beside manner. His speech mannerisms need a lot of
Xenophaneros Anartaxius:
His speech mannerisms need a lot of work...
So, how many of Hagelin's courses at MUM have
you taken? He seems pretty reasonable to me.
What The Bleep Do We Know (5 of 12)
4:00/8:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2e2bjIhG-Ufeature=related
I have not taken any courses from Hagelin. I did meet him a few times. And have
heard him speak recently. His speech then seemed fairly normal. It is just
perhaps his public speaking now, the cadence is very strange. Radio and early
TV announcers also had an 'unnatural' cadence, but the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
ROTFLMAO! HAHAHAHAHA! The Turq has spoken!
Good one!
The Turqo, not understanding anything of David Lynch's latest movie Inland
Empire, now claims he lacks creativity !
What a clown...
I remember King Tony being crowned as a result of his understanding of the
human physiology in terms of the Veda. Perhaps he struck Maharishi as the most
stable and clear thinking of MMY's possible successors.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
I
Lynch is far more successful as a creative entity than Turq will ever be. Why
that matters to Turq is beyond me.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
ROTFLMAO! HAHAHAHAHA! The Turq has
I read somewhere that Napaleon Bonaparte was once in a situation to choose a
general to lead his army. His advisors presented him a candidate with the best
qualification based on character and intelligence. But Napoleon asked, Is he
lucky?.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Awe, nabby- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kz7YUdy-Cg Where is your
creative, sense of humor?
The Turq has many other qualities to make fun of, but I give him applauding
credit for the zombies comment and the picture of DL he posted. Bhahahahaha.
How deep does one have to be to
Yes! That is it! Everyone who has Jupiter in the first, fifth or ninth, line
up for the luck audition!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
I read somewhere that Napaleon Bonaparte was once in a situation to choose a
general to lead his army. His advisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
Inland empire reminds me of what one would feel like if a nurse
goes on break for an hour, immediately after leaving you hooked
up to an IV of antibiotic one is allergic to.
Content with viewing links to long excerpts of
The most important factor is that the TMO has to pay its salaries and overhead.
Since there are no tithing requirements from members, the main source of
revenue has to be from the instruction fees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 no_reply@... wrote:
It's my opinion that
It wasn't actually Lurk that made the statement of how many hours of labor it
takes for an American to earn the money for TM compared to many 3rd world
countries, it was me (seekliberation).
Dear Lurk,
An hour's work, a day's labor, a week or a month, being able to learn the
wisdom of
My suggestion wasn't that TM be taught for free. My opinion was a fair price
would be around $300-500. $1500 may not be a lot for an engineer with a
Master's degree, or someone born in a wealthy family, but it's a hell of a lot
to someone working in a factory or doing landscaping.
I understand this concept of paying the salaries and overhead. However, If you
charge $1500 per meditation instruction, you have to weigh the cost of how many
will learn as opposed to dropping the price. Basically, if you drop the price
to $500 and maintain a 3 to 1 ratio of people learning,
It seems these prices came into being when the number of people wanting to
start TM plunged, and the vast majority of TM centers closed, and Maharishi had
surrounded himself with very wealthy peoplewhere this kind of money is
relatively small...when your sitting on piles of cash...
Back in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
My suggestion wasn't that TM be taught for free. My
opinion was a fair price would be around $300-500.
$1500 may not be a lot for an engineer with a Master's
degree, or someone born in a wealthy family, but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@
wrote:
My suggestion wasn't that TM be taught for free. My
opinion was a fair price would be around $300-500.
$1500 may not be a lot for an
I don't think it matters. Buck operates pretty much on auto pilot. One
week it's his cascading Indian terms, and the next week he's back to his
usual. Sometimes he forgets where he is and goes over the limit.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation
seekliberation@... wrote:
It
Your analysis is well reasoned. Since I like TM, the more sense you made, the
more I wondered why the movement isn't operating this way? I had a spark of
inspiration when you said that Once people experience it, they're hooked. As
I have discussed previously, I conducted one of the movements
Probably the easiest way to learn TM is sort of as participatory performance
art, with a mantra at the end. I recently inherited a painting from Bali that
hung above our family dining room table for 40 years. It is a painting of a
puja ceremony in Indonesia, almost life size. Simply a beautiful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
Probably the easiest way to learn TM is sort of as participatory performance
art, with a mantra at the end. I recently inherited a painting from Bali that
hung above our family dining room table for 40 years. It is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
Probably the easiest way to learn TM is sort of as participatory
performance art, with a mantra at the end. I recently inherited a
So buy one, get one free doesn't work? I'll have to go tell the chain
stores that because they sure advertise that way a lot. :-D
But as I've argued here you don't charge for the technique but for your
time which could be spent doing something else to pay for your rice
bowl. But teaching
On 09/02/2011 04:24 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberationseekliberation@
wrote:
My suggestion wasn't that TM be taught for free. My
opinion was a fair price would be around $300-500.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 no_reply@... wrote:
It's my opinion that American's just don't value anything that is free.
Everythings value is determined by price and hence the high price of TM.
I haven't found that this tendency among the rich elite is any different
I hear that back in the '60s the fee for initiation was one week's salary.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
I'll teach any homeless person for free (if they are stable enough).
But it won't be TM but the meditation technique I been given to teach
through my tantra studies. It included shaktipat for the jump start.
It would be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@... wrote:
I hear that back in the '60s the fee for initiation was one week's salary.
Initially, I believe that was the recommended price. I paid $35, the best $35 I
ever spent, in spite of what the nincompoops on this forum might
: The unreasonable price of TM instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 5:49 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
I'll teach any homeless person for free (if they are stable
) and the unemployed are feeling
desperate and have the time.
--- On Fri, 9/2/11, John jr_esq@... wrote:
From: John jr_esq@...
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The unreasonable price of TM instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 5:49 PM
Really? If so, who is paying that money? Each individual?
seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Its the same price for schools in the USA and RIo, sorry.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@
wrote:
when
The David Lynch Foundation pays for entire schools to learn TM. They get their
money from wealthy individuals. That's what the Beatles Reunion concert (the
first Change Begins Within concert) was for.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
Really?
Then that's why a mass group of people are learning in Brazil. I'm happy about
it, but in terms of the original argument i'd say i'm still justified in my POV
that Americans are being charged a bit too much, and that we could get a much
larger percentage of our population to learn if the price
People in all the economically sound countries are paying the same price for TM
instruction, last I heard. The USA might soon qualify for Third World Country
status as far as TM instruction goes, of course.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
If economically sound countries means all 1st World countries, then $1500 (or
the monetary equivalent in Yen, Pounds, Euros, etc...) is more than most 'real'
working class wage earners can afford. This is especially true for most who
have children.
I remember when I was at MIU/MUM a guy
Dear Lurk,
An hour's work, a day's labor, a week or a month, being able to learn the
wisdom of the integration of life is simply priceless. Economics demonstrates
that people simply won't appreciate something unless they pay a lot for it, at
least what it is worth.
1. People proly should
And, as MMY pointed out, the point of raising the price was to attract the
super-wealthy because they set the policies of the world and the rich do not
shop at poor stores.
I understand your complaints, but the TM organization follows the guidelines
set forth by MMY as interpreted by King
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
And, as MMY pointed out, the point of raising the price was to attract the
super-wealthy because they set the policies of the world and the rich do not
shop at poor stores.
Fine in absolute theory but I do see the
It's my opinion that American's just don't value anything that is free.
Everythings value is determined by price and hence the high price of TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
I'll teach any homeless person for free (if they are stable enough).
But it
On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:10 PM, sparaig wrote:
David Orme-Johnson's rebuttal to the study that graphic is from.
I have no idea if what David says is valid, truthful, or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
The current Wikipedia entry for TM says it nicely, as it was reviewed
by Medical Doctors trained in research review:
Independent systematic reviews have not found health benefits for TM
beyond relaxation and health
Just checking...
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote:
From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The unreasonable price of TM instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 8:38 PM
THose same reviews say the same about virtually all other meditation studies.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:10 PM,
On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:56 AM, sparaig wrote:
THose same reviews say the same about virtually all other
meditation studies.
L
Fortunately much non-TM meditation research continues to improve. In
fact classes to train young scientists in this science continue to
sell out, as do the Mind
THose same reviews say the same about virtually
all other meditation studies...
Vaj:
Fortunately much non-TM meditation research
continues to improve...
The key issue is that 'mindfullness' is simply a
relaxation technique that does not produce much
health benefit, other than a
when i said 'larger population', I guess I was referring more to USA.
remember, the reason it's going out to everyone in Rio De Janeiro is because
the price isn't $1500 there. If it was, they wouldn't have the money.
seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@...
Its the same price for schools in the USA and RIo, sorry.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
when i said 'larger population', I guess I was referring more to USA.
remember, the reason it's going out to everyone in Rio De Janeiro is because
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Everyone constantly harps on how much TM costs. They are full of it.
I'm pretty sure the harping concerns the public's $2,500 price which pretty
much takes it out of the zone for someone who wants to try it but isn't
convinced
And training TM teachers is inefficient. All that could easily be done
in one month. And as it is they just turn you into a robot that does
preprogrammed things. There is really no knowledge of how it all works
imparted.
The teaching would do well at around $125 as a weekend workshop which
The current price for single adults is $1500, not $2500, as far as I know.
And if a buncha people banded together and offered the TM organization $75,000
for 10,000 of them to learn TM, they might well get the discount as well. At
the least, they could ask Bobby Roth about it.
L
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
And training TM teachers is inefficient. All that could easily be done
in one month. And as it is they just turn you into a robot that does
preprogrammed things. There is really no knowledge of how it all works
Excuse, $3.75 million for 10,000...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
The current price for single adults is $1500, not $2500, as far as I know.
And if a buncha people banded together and offered the TM organization
$75,000 for 10,000 of them to learn TM,
On 08/30/2011 12:26 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
And training TM teachers is inefficient. All that could easily be done
in one month. And as it is they just turn you into a robot that does
preprogrammed things. There is really no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:26 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote:
And training TM teachers is inefficient. All that could easily be done
in one month. And as it is they just turn
On 08/30/2011 01:10 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:26 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote:
And training TM teachers is inefficient. All that could easily be done
in one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
[...]
They're just beej mantras, Lawson. Nothing really unique about them.
Get over it. You could get the same results or better with other
techniques but no one else wants to spend the money to do so. Only
corporate
On 08/30/2011 01:43 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
[...]
They're just beej mantras, Lawson. Nothing really unique about them.
Get over it. You could get the same results or better with other
techniques but no one else wants to spend the
Wherever the TM Mantras came from, and the subtle instructions for their use,
must have been from a very ancient consciousness - from before time, as corny
as that sounds. Otherwise the technique would not transcend itself, and
eventually become an all time soundless vibration, no matter who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Everyone constantly harps on how much TM costs. They are full of it.
From the David Lynch website:
Funding Target: $75,000 per year for each specially trained teacher to
provide an intensive 12-month program of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
The current price for single adults is $1500, not $2500, as far as I know.
And if a buncha people banded together and offered the TM organization
$75,000 for 10,000 of them to learn TM, they might well get the discount as
I know well over a dozen close friends and family very intrigued by TM, but
$1500 is way out of question. $375 would be great, even $500 is reasonable.
I'm sure many TMer's know many friends that are in the same boat.
Apparently, either TMO or MMY are not good at math. Perhaps some people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
Wherever the TM Mantras came from, and the subtle instructions for their use,
must have been from a very ancient consciousness - from before time, as corny
as that sounds. Otherwise the technique would not transcend
Great post, now all we have to do is try to get this experience out to more
people. Kind of hard to do at the current price.
Does anyone know if there are any significant talks about reducing the price
throughout America?
seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
Great post, now all we have to do is try to get this experience out to more
people. Kind of hard to do at the current price.
Does anyone know if there are any significant talks about reducing the price
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 08/30/2011 01:43 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote:
[...]
They're just beej mantras, Lawson. Nothing really unique about them.
Get over it. You could get the same
A pretty picture with no attribution, doesn't prove anything at all.
I hope you realize this and are merely being a troll. Otherwise, you're really
far worse off than I thought.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Yep, and a lot of other people too. Jai Guru Dev, nablusoss1008!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
Wherever the TM Mantras came from, and the subtle instructions for their
use,
I have had a similar experience, but I wouldn't call it useful or non-useful or
meaningful or significant.
It started showing up within a few days of my learning TM and has continued
throughout the 38 years that I have practiced, but I don't believe that it is
of any special significance.
For
Based on my experience, you may be right. Despite having meditated for 35
years, I continue to have higher bp than I'd like, but my resting pulse
averages 50 bpm, so I hope that makes up for it!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:30 PM,
Sounds like you've got it all figured out. No worries. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
I have had a similar experience, but I wouldn't call it useful or non-useful
or meaningful or significant.
It started showing up within a few days of my learning TM
Well, how much more massive a population starting TM than every kid in Rio de
Janeiro, are you looking for?
Much much MUCH larger, better controlled studies, performed entirely by people
with no TM background, will need to be done before this becomes widespread.
(Someone willing to pay for a
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
Many of you appear to be afraid of Buddha-cide and are clinging to subtle, and
ultimately silly experiences.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@...
wrote:
Great post, now all we have to do is try to get this
I'll teach any homeless person for free (if they are stable enough).
But it won't be TM but the meditation technique I been given to teach
through my tantra studies. It included shaktipat for the jump start.
On 08/30/2011 02:39 PM, seekliberation wrote:
I know well over a dozen close friends
Buddha-cide!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
Many of you appear to be afraid of Buddha-cide and are clinging to subtle,
and ultimately silly experiences.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Sometimes you can find former TM teachers who have decided to teach the
technique for less than the official price, but it is still TM. A friend of
mine learned that way. Used to be a guy here in the SF Bay Area, but he went to
India and hasn't been back.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Well, from what you have said, practice has dropped away, which implies that
you no longer do TM, or, at least, have made the assumption that you don't need
the mantra in order to meditate. While I don't claim that clear thinking is
required for TM, I have often found that when I am ill or
Problem with that is that the organization simply won't recognize someone who
learned that way as a real TMer and won't provide the free checking sessions
to them. Nor can they learn advanced techniques nor the TM-Sidhis.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
On Aug 30, 2011, at 6:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
A pretty picture with no attribution, doesn't prove anything at all.
I hope you realize this and are merely being a troll. Otherwise, you're
really far worse off than I thought.
Pop a nitro and then you can find it here:
David Orme-Johnson's rebuttal to the study that graphic is from.
I have no idea if what David says is valid, truthful, or whatever, but this is
the other side of the story, at least:
http://www.TruthAboutTM.org/truth/TMResearch/RebuttalofAHRQReview/index.cfm
L.
--- In
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:10 PM, sparaig wrote:
David Orme-Johnson's rebuttal to the study that graphic is from.
I have no idea if what David says is valid, truthful, or whatever, but this
is the other side of the story, at least:
It's really okay. I have faith that the science will show the validity and
solidarity of the meditation practices, both insight and mantra, because in my
experience I know they both work spiritually. The science will catch up. The
public policy will be guided as it should by the science.
, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The unreasonable price of TM instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 3:28 PM
Sometimes you can find former
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:10 PM, sparaig wrote:
David Orme-Johnson's rebuttal to the study that graphic is from.
I have no idea if what David says is valid, truthful, or whatever, but this
is the other side of the story,
: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The unreasonable price of TM instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 3:28 PM
Â
Sometimes you can find former TM teachers who have
] Re: The unreasonable price of TM instruction
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 3:28 PM
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Sometimes you can find former TM teachers who have decided to teach the
technique for less than
Yep, it has its limitations. I learned my siddhis through work/study but I was
in my 20's. Not so feasible now.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Problem with that is that the organization simply won't recognize someone who
learned that way as a real TMer
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