[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
@... wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 1:09 AM Denise, I will keep presenting my case as long as you and I are around. :-) You do appear to take what you like and leave the restIsn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 12:24 AM I don't consider Amma as an avatar or divine mother, IMO most who do are just engaging in an intellectual concept. Not that there's anything wrong with it, since the very faith, trust transforms

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-26 Thread Denise Evans
of religion.  I have askedWhy do all the enlightened gurus come out of India?  One person told me it was simple population statistics. Hm.ya think?   --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-25 Thread Ravi Yogi
, fflmod fflmod@... wrote: From: fflmod fflmod@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 2:26 PM Â Amma is an avatar, an incarnation of the divine. Not a karmic human at all. That is why the name

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fflmod fflmod@... wrote: Amma is an avatar, an incarnation of the divine. Not a karmic human at all. That is why the name of Amma is prevalent throughout the bhajans and elsewhere. There is no difference between praying to God and praying to an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-25 Thread Denise Evans
(that was corrupted through interpretation).   When people get confused and start giving their life force over to someone elsedangerous things can happen. --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-24 Thread fflmod
Amma is an avatar, an incarnation of the divine. Not a karmic human at all. That is why the name of Amma is prevalent throughout the bhajans and elsewhere. There is no difference between praying to God and praying to an avatar. A familiar example of this is how in MMY's Gita, Krishna is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-24 Thread Denise Evans
, but so was Amma at one point before celebrity hit. --- On Sun, 7/24/11, fflmod ffl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: fflmod ffl...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 2:26 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-07-24 Thread fflmod
.  She's lower key at this point, but so was Amma at one point before celebrity hit. --- On Sun, 7/24/11, fflmod fflmod@... wrote: From: fflmod fflmod@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 2:26 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-19 Thread Denise Evans
...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 10:20 PM   Thanks for your comments Kevin !! You have put it aptly - you experienced the love

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Ravi Yogi
Sorry it's kind of lame, but below are my responses to this hilarious post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Now *this* is the quality of call and response I miss on Fairfield Life. Good,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread whynotnow7
Good point. Maybe you could wear a ski mask?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: I gotta say, I think I'd rather be the last person to get a sip of blood of Christ Communion cup than to bury my nose into that same square of silk that a thousand people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread maskedzebra
, service, and respect for the environment and that is all a good thing.   --- On Fri, 6/17/11, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: Rick Archer rick@... Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:37 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Dear Denise Evans, If Amma were a good thing, the universe would, unequivocally, be determined to demonstrate this. I have no dog in the Amma fight, but I'm wondering what evidence *you* have that determination in this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread maskedzebra
Of course it's anthropomorphism. I take it that the unstated premise of people who write on this blog is that the universe expresses a providential design and a providential execution. The existence of individual beings inside a metaphysical context of perfect meaningfulness. It is of course

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Denise Evans
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 8:34 AM   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Dear Denise Evans, If Amma were a good thing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Denise Evans
, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 9:59 AM   Of course it's anthropomorphism. I take

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Denise Evans
WOW.  InterestingI should have read this first.case closedwe are all enlightened to the degree that we are...Tee Hee. --- On Sat, 6/18/11, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Denise Evans
Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 6:40 PM   Denise - and as they say you have to pass though hell to get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Of course it's anthropomorphism. I take it that the unstated premise of people who write on this blog is that the universe expresses a providential design and a providential execution. The existence of individual beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Of course it's anthropomorphism. I take it that the unstated premise of people who write on this blog is that the universe expresses a providential design and a providential execution. The existence of individual beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 6:40 PM Denise - and as they say you have to pass though hell to get to heaven, so nothing is going to change around Amma because it's a perfect contrast, a metaphor or pun of the play

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: It is just a tragedy how many minds are being weakened and invaded by a spiritual context which does not bear a one to one relationship with reality. And then there are ones own experiences which may be apart from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Denise Evans
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 1:06 PM   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:  It is just a tragedy how many minds are being weakened and invaded

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread shanti2218411
Ravi very well put.My experience with Amma has been much more limited but like you while I have not felt ANY need to think of her as GOD I have been in awe of the love I have experienced in her presence and when I and my wife and daughter received her hug. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Ravi Yogi
: Visit with Amma To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 6:40 PM Â Denise - and as they say you have to pass though hell to get to heaven, so nothing is going to change around Amma because it's a perfect contrast, a metaphor or pun of the play

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: I too thought Ravi's response was thoughtful, and good advice. Spiritual movements, any movement really, channels experience in certain directions. Not all of this directiveness is conscious, but it functions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-18 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thanks for your comments Kevin !! You have put it aptly - you experienced the love in you. A Satguru just acts as the perfect mirror reflecting the divine, the love in us. In India Guru is equated with God, as in symbolic of God. Many who meet Amma fall in love with her, her love, compassion,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread turquoiseb
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denise Evans Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Visit with Amma I respect the idea of taking what works for you and leaving the rest. That can work if one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: P.S. I find it hard to accept accusations of Amma serving her ego or being in it for the money. For decades now, she’s been on a routine that would kill most people in a month. What she does is grueling, and she suffers a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: P.S. I find it hard to accept accusations of Amma serving her ego or being in it for the money. For decades now, she’s been on a routine that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: P.S. I find it hard to accept accusations of Amma serving her ego or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread seventhray1
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Visit with Amma I respect the idea of taking what works for you and leaving the rest. That can work if one, as an adult, doesn't give up one's ability to assess critically by embracing blind faith. For me, however, while I enjoyed the food, music

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread Ravi Yogi
Steve - regardless of how my messages come across, I am not reacting. I really don't care for praise or criticism, for me the content doesn't matter, the consciousness that the other and I bring to it. Though my messages definitely reflect my samskaras and vasanas (mental tendencies and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread Ravi Yogi
Denise - and as they say you have to pass though hell to get to heaven, so nothing is going to change around Amma because it's a perfect contrast, a metaphor or pun of the play of the opposites, the play of the outer and the inner. There's many who are stuck in the outer, spend their entire lives

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Now *this* is the quality of call and response I miss on Fairfield Life. Good, now you have an example of how to do it. Rick had every opportunity to overreact to this post, and to get all defensive or even abrasive in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-16 Thread seventhray1
Ravi Guru will have a word with you. Please hold. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365 dmevans365@... wrote: I am writing this as an account of my and my children's participation in a recent Amma retreat. As background: I was laid off a stressful job in corporate america in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-16 Thread seventhray1
I gotta say, I think I'd rather be the last person to get a sip of blood of Christ Communion cup than to bury my nose into that same square of silk that a thousand people before me have just buried their nose and mouth. What is it we say? Oh yea, YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-16 Thread Yifu
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-16 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NUXrpV4Ao68/TLZm2D22PVI/AFA/pbLjLDm-s_\ o/s1600/blue-e-meter.jpg (might work) might work? might work? you're posting state of the art gear. This is is LRH tech that is as cutting edge as the day

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visit with Amma

2011-06-16 Thread Yifu
My auditing sessions at the LA Center long ago ended in disaster. Forgot what they call it, but if the person's being audited have an intense reaction to some of the questions, the e-meter basically goes haywire and the auditor(s) have to record it as such, with very negative consequences to