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Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. There can be no doubt that Dennis Waite's 'The Book Of One' is a worthy introduction to the Ancient Teaching of Advaita... [big snip] Dear Vaj, This is a beautifully written and powerful piece. It reflects some thoughts that I've had in response to some of the neo-Advaita teachers that I've been exposed to. Thank you for posting it. Who wrote it? Namaste, Michael PARA - THE CENTER FOR REALIZATION Michael Dean Goodman Ph.D., D.D., Director Boca Raton (Palm Beach County) Florida * 561-350-3930 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clients and programs throughout the United States, Europe, and India Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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It thought it was an unattributed review, but I now see it was written by an Alan Jacobs:http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/trad_neo/neoadvaita_jacobs.htmOn Jan 10, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. There can be no doubt that Dennis Waite's 'The Book Of One' is a worthy introduction to the Ancient Teaching of Advaita... [big snip] Dear Vaj, This is a beautifully written and powerful piece. It reflects some thoughts that I've had in response to some of the neo-Advaita teachers that I've been exposed to. Thank you for posting it. Who wrote it? Namaste, Michael PARA - THE CENTER FOR REALIZATION Michael Dean Goodman Ph.D., D.D., Director Boca Raton (Palm Beach County) Florida * 561-350-3930 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clients and programs throughout the United States, Europe, and India To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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> Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reviewing the Tasteless Sounds pretty appropriate for this group. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watering down advaita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] It is therefore a valid, if imperfect stepping stone, for those who are ready and mature enough to walk on to true Advaita, instead of just reclining half way up the Mount Arunachala. Lately, I've been only lightly grazing FFL, so I didn't read this essay until Michael Goodman commented on it. I don't know if Waking Down falls into this category or not. I don't believe Saniel claims WD to be Advaita, and I have never gotten the impression that Advaita involves the kind of brutal free-fall into one's conditioning, the way WD did for me. But, if in fact, I'm only half-way up Mount Arunachala, it's still quite an improvement from my old digs at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:45 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:34 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. No Jnani ever claims to be Enlightened. It remains for others to recognise his qualities. That's the amazing thing, no claim is required. These are spontaneous qualities. Brings us back to the old saying 'those who know, don't talk-- those who talk, don't know [Brahma-vidya].' How many words have you typed concerning what you don't know? Wrong context..."non sequitur"! The context is here is teaching. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:45 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:34 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. No Jnani ever claims to be Enlightened. It remains for others to recognise his qualities. That's the amazing thing, no claim is required. These are spontaneous qualities. Brings us back to the old saying 'those who know, don't talk-- those who talk, don't know [Brahma-vidya].' How many words have you typed concerning what you don't know? Wrong context...non sequitur! The context is here is teaching. So its ok for a teacher like yourself to talk about these things, but those who don't know, shouldn't talk? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. No Jnani ever claims to be Enlightened. It remains for others to recognise his qualities. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watering down advaita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:34 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. No Jnani ever claims to be Enlightened. It remains for others to recognise his qualities. That's the amazing thing, no claim is required. These are spontaneous qualities.Brings us back to the old saying 'those who know, don't talk--those who talk, don't know [Brahma-vidya].' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. In many satsangs, bringing up such topics is considered intellectualization or worse: dualistic. Whatever the case, it's not common for there to be some *undertone* of subtle condescension when such items are mentioned. What this often means is someones ego has been stepped on...often one of the 'enlightened ones'.It's also not uncommon IME for an 'enlightened one' to attempt profundity and an utterly and plainly incorrect View (about reality). I remember one such gathering where the 'enlightened one' waxed neoadvaitic on how the state of Brahman / Unity consciousness could be understood by the Two Truths.The crowd bought it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Vaj wrote: it's not common oops, it's not UNCOMMON Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. It reminded me of several recent posts. In many satsangs, bringing up such topics is considered intellectualization or worse: dualistic. Whatever the case, it's not common for there to be some *undertone* of subtle condescension when such items are mentioned. What this often means is someones ego has been stepped on...often one of the 'enlightened ones'. It's also not uncommon IME for an 'enlightened one' to attempt profundity and an utterly and plainly incorrect View (about reality). I remember one such gathering where the 'enlightened one' waxed neoadvaitic on how the state of Brahman / Unity consciousness could be understood by the Two Truths. The crowd bought it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 5:31 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. It reminded me of several recent posts. The entire article was laced with themes common here. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 5:31 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. It reminded me of several recent posts. The entire article was laced with themes common here. Yes. There is generally a lack of experiential understanding of the Real Self and its Power as deep silence, unconditional love etc.. Otherwise there is a permanent occlusion, the Granthi Knot, permanently screening off the tremendous power of the Real Self, which is the Absolute Unborn Deathless Consciousness, God, Unconditional Love, Dynamic Silence, and Oneness. Instead the Neo-Advaitin pupil merely basks in his or her Reflected Consciousness, designated as 'all there is, is perfect, whatever manifests'. To summarise, the main Neo Advaitin fallacy ignores the fact that there is an occlusion or veiling formed by the vasanas, samskaras, bodily sheaths and vrittis, and there is a Granthi Knot forming an identification between Self and mind which has to be severed. If this were not the case then the whole of humanity would be living from Absolute Consciousness. As it is humanity still lives from Reflected Consciousness, including the Neo Advaitin Teacher with his or her active vasanas, still identified with the mind. Pupils gravitate to the teacher with this kind of agenda which confirms what he or she wants to believe, that no effort is needed. The result is that the Teacher, still living from the ordinary mind, with vasanas active, can never go back on the promise that he is 'awakened' and therefore forfeit the right to teach. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The suggestion by the Neo-Advaitins that effort builds up the Ego giving it a sense of pride in its ability to meditate, etc. is only true in number of eccentric cases. Though I think there is something very powerful in giving up, and rooting out, the search, path and desire for enlightenment. Which doesnot preclude still doing sadhana for other reasons. The search, path and desire for enlightenment is a huge vasana in itself. I think over time, other vasanas are roasted, as ones desire for enlightnement becomes a sole focus. Other vasansas become subordinated or fused up into the enlightenemnt seeking desire. Giving up, and rooting out, the search, path and desire for enlightenment can be powerful, and delightful. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:28 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 5:31 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. It reminded me of several recent posts. The entire article was laced with themes common here. Yes. There is generally a lack of experiential understanding of the Real Self and its Power as deep silence, unconditional love etc.. Otherwise there is a permanent occlusion, the Granthi Knot, permanently screening off the tremendous power of the Real Self, which is the Absolute Unborn Deathless Consciousness, God, Unconditional Love, Dynamic Silence, and Oneness. Instead the Neo-Advaitin pupil merely basks in his or her Reflected Consciousness, designated as 'all there is, is perfect, whatever manifests'. To summarise, the main Neo Advaitin fallacy ignores the fact that there is an occlusion or veiling formed by the vasanas, samskaras, bodily sheaths and vrittis, and there is a Granthi Knot forming an identification between Self and mind which has to be severed. If this were not the case then the whole of humanity would be living from Absolute Consciousness. As it is humanity still lives from Reflected Consciousness, including the Neo Advaitin Teacher with his or her active vasanas, still identified with the mind. Pupils gravitate to the teacher with this kind of agenda which confirms what he or she wants to believe, that no effort is needed. The result is that the Teacher, still living from the ordinary mind, with vasanas active, can never go back on the promise that he is 'awakened' and therefore forfeit the right to teach. That the vasanas have been accumulated and consolidated in previous 'life dreams' is not examined, and if raised, the teachings about 'samsara' , 'maya' , jiva, karma and re-birth are often considered too metaphysical to explain or grasp .They are invariably dismissed as old superstitions. I could see these and others as making a good start for a Neo-Advaita and Pseudo-Advaita FAQ. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:29 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:"The suggestion by the Neo-Advaitins that effort builds up the Ego giving it a sense of pride in its ability to meditate, etc. is only true in number of eccentric cases." Though I think there is something very powerful in giving up, and rooting out, the search, path and desire for enlightenment. Which doesnot preclude still doing sadhana for other reasons. The search, path and desire for enlightenment is a huge vasana in itself. Indeed. That was one of the important elements in a post put here from Dilgo Khyentse. The style of meditation changes as one approaches non-dual practices. "Sitting down to meditate" and all the drama associated with formal sessions of practice dissolve and become part of our larger "life". They are no longer separate. Ultimately you have to be able to take the state of "one taste" into moving, eating, shitting AND sitting. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:29 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: The suggestion by the Neo-Advaitins that effort builds up the Ego giving it a sense of pride in its ability to meditate, etc. is only true in number of eccentric cases. Though I think there is something very powerful in giving up, and rooting out, the search, path and desire for enlightenment. Which doesnot preclude still doing sadhana for other reasons. The search, path and desire for enlightenment is a huge vasana in itself. Indeed. That was one of the important elements in a post put here from Dilgo Khyentse. I missed that. I will go back and read it. Thanks. The style of meditation changes as one approaches non-dual practices. Sitting down to meditate and all the drama associated with formal sessions of practice dissolve and become part of our larger life. They are no longer separate. Ultimately you have to be able to take the state of one taste into moving, eating, shitting AND sitting. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:08 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:I missed that. I will go back and read it. Thanks. It was on carrying the View."When performing the meditation practice one should develop thefeeling of opening oneself completely to the whole universe withabsolute simplicity and nakedness of mind, ridding oneself of allprotecting barriers. Don’t mentally split into two when meditating,one part of the mind watching the other like a cat watching a mouse."Twice a day? LOL. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watering down advaita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:34 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reviewing the Tasteless The Book Of One, The Spiritual Path of Advaita by Dennis Waite, Published by O Books, 46 West Street, Alresford, Hants, SO24 9AU, UK, 288 pages, paper back, £9.99 or $17.95. No Jnani ever claims to be Enlightened. It remains for others to recognise his qualities. That's the amazing thing, no claim is required. These are spontaneous qualities. Brings us back to the old saying 'those who know, don't talk-- those who talk, don't know [Brahma-vidya].' How many words have you typed concerning what you don't know? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
