Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
Hi Easy: On Mar 18, 2005, at 2:26 AM, easyone200 wrote: Alien visitations can easily be explained away by hypnopompic or hypnogogic hallucinations or various sleep paralysis experiences. They can be partially explained, i.e. some of the cases can be explained this way. So you are partly

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread mark robert
From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? Hiya Mark: On Mar 17, 2005, at 8:27 PM, mark robert wrote: I do not comprehend your reasoning

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread mark robert
From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:35 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:01 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: I've always found

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread mark robert
From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:47 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? Hi Easy: On Mar 18, 2005, at 2:26 AM, easyone200 wrote: Alien visitations can easily

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
On Mar 18, 2005, at 11:52 AM, mark robert wrote: Were you not just claiming that older traditions/teachings were inferior? No, they bear fruit, they give results slower. But there are exceptions to every rule.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
On Mar 18, 2005, at 11:52 AM, mark robert wrote: It is peculiar how you have more of a belief in alien beings than an external Soma. It's a touchy subject I am trying skirt around as carefully as I can. I don't like the words aliens or extraterrestrial since I believe they are very misleading

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya Mark: An example might be the numerous people who believe they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
On Mar 18, 2005, at 2:26 PM, easyone200 wrote: The older they get the more inaccurate. I would hardly consider prajna-paramita-sutra inaccurate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo!

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-17 Thread mark robert
From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? On Mar 16, 2005, at 12:19 PM, mark robert wrote: OK, we agree that a lot of Vedic literature

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-16 Thread Vaj
On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:38 AM, rudra_joe wrote: My fave Buddhist books are Heart Drops of Dharmakaya and Wonders of the Natural Mind. Aren't they both Bonpo works?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-16 Thread rudra_joe
Only thing I know about Bonpo is it hurts the head. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:38 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-15 Thread rudrani
Bob wrote [[1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). [snip] it's just the way the universe works.]] ** !!! in a TM universe, if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-15 Thread Vaj
Hi Bob: On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: 1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). It's a free country, until

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-15 Thread Vaj
On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Do you mean Clear Light of Bliss: The Practice of Mahamudra in Vajrayana Buddhism by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso? oops, sorry, yes that's it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-15 Thread Vaj
On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:30 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Vaj, old man, if it's not an imposition, would you be so kind as to summarize the parts of the book that would outrage the honest TM Sidha? Not that I am one -- more of a lazy sidha, truth be told, who'd rather read your book review than

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-15 Thread mark robert
-Original Message- From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:09 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? Hi Mark: On Mar 15, 2005, at 9:43 PM, mark robert wrote: If you are talking about

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Mark wrote [[Sure, that sounds reasonable enough, but no less of a reason to seek out its identity.]] ** oh .. that is not my intent. i have loads of info on soma .. fascinating subject. my conclusion, through the years, is that it is - as i wrote in my origional comments - both an

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Peter S. wrote [[The only soma I've experienced has been internal. It's the source of the bodily bliss from spiritual practices.]] ** i agree, however, i am also inclined to think, based on the literature available, there is more to it than that. i just sent a post off listing all the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Sutphen
I agree with you that it is more than just produced in our bodies by we lame-ass yogis/yoginis. That's only one aspect of it. I've also experienced soma flowing/spraying into the environment through the senses. Almost like the sense was working in reverse. -Peter --- rudrani [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread mark robert
From: rudrani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation? Mark wrote [[Sure, that sounds reasonable enough, but no less of a reason to seek out its

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread rudrani
Bob supplied [[ http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/soma/ ]] ** hhhmm .. ok. two things: first, it sounds like vampirism; second, whats wrong w/being a religion? why the court action? om peace!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudrani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob supplied [[ http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/soma/ ]] ** hhhmm .. ok. two things: first, it sounds like vampirism; second, whats wrong w/being a religion? why the court action? om peace!.. rudrani

[FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
rudrani wrote regarding http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/soma: it sounds like vampirism What's cool is to be a TMing Christian. You eat the body and blood of Christ when you take communion, and Indra drinks the soma you produce in meditation. To the extent that the communion bread and