[FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO charges for TM would in most cases *not* be able to afford it themselves if they hadn't already learned it years ago. But they think it's Ok to charge the newbies that much. Go figure. Not only can't they afford TM, or most likely anything else now being sold by the TMO (sidhis, panchakarma, yagyas, s-ved houses, millionaire courses) but many of them would be kicked out of the TMO if they tried to be active. I assume Brigante's already been banned and many other TBs here have expressed opinions or admitted to other interests or discussed mental-emotional problems all of which would get them in deep hot water if they were actually in the mov't trying to be a devoted disciple of MMY like they think they are. I find this really strange. The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than this on coffee, unhealthy fizzy drinks, and many more unhealthy unnecessary things every day. If one did it over 2 tears instead of 4, then it is still only $3.40 a day. Anyone who has the will to, can afford TM in the US. When I first wanted to learn about yogic knowledge, I was ready to give up everything and travel to India to find what I was looking for, at great risk to myself and my future. You are now proclaiming to the people of the world that they should not give up their cafe- lattes for Vedic knowledge? This incredibly selfish, since you have already had the benefit of the knowledge. Many people in the world have nothing to absorb the stress which pushes down upon them everyday. As a beneficiary of a practice that you can practice any day, any where, even in a prison, and find relief, if you have any conscience at all you should be telling as many people as you can, that TM only costs $3.40 a day for 2 years ! OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than this on coffee, unhealthy fizzy drinks, and many more unhealthy unnecessary things every day. If one did it over 2 tears instead of 4, then it is still only $3.40 a day. Anyone who has the will to, can afford TM in the US.When I first wanted to learn about yogic knowledge, I was ready to give up everything and travel to India to find what I was looking for, at great risk to myself and my future. You are now proclaiming to the people of the world that they should not give up their cafe-lattes for Vedic knowledge? This incredibly selfish, since you have already had the benefit of the knowledge. Many people in the world have nothing to absorb the stress which pushes down upon them everyday. As a beneficiary of a practice that you can practice any day, any where, even in a prison, and find relief, if you have any conscience at all you should be telling as many people as you can, that TM only costs $3.40 a day for 2 years !OffWorld The average uninitiated person isn't going to give up their minor comforts, pleasures, and bad habits to satisfy their curiosity about something so abstract. Especially if finding a regular practicingTMer is so rare and there are so many that learned and quit. You have to consider there are many times more people out there to say theylearned TM and got little or nothing out of it than can say it has opened the universe to them. Twenty -five hundred dollars is a very big commitment to the average person. To some, its represents a couple of mortgage payments, four, five or six car payments, Healthcare insurance premiums etc, things the average middle class person will not give up or risk not having in the future should he be between jobs for a period of time. Vedic knowledge? What the hell is that to the average person of western culture? It means nothing to them. If TM is going to out survive it's current practitioners it has to shake the cult image, stop all the Vedic this and Vedic that BS, get rid of the religious overtones and charge prices the average person can whip out a check book and right a check on the spot without a second thought to pay for the course. It needs to return to being an organization fun to work for and one not need to fear being black balled by others on power trips. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting, and Pure consciousness means Nothing to the average person until they have experienced it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.
off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO charges for TM would in most cases *not* be able to afford it themselves if they hadn't already learned it years ago. But they think it's Ok to charge the newbies that much. Go figure. Not only can't they afford TM, or most likely anything else now being sold by the TMO (sidhis, panchakarma, yagyas, s-ved houses, millionaire courses) but many of them would be kicked out of the TMO if they tried to be active. I assume Brigante's already been banned and many other TBs here have expressed opinions or admitted to other interests or discussed mental-emotional problems all of which would get them in deep hot water if they were actually in the mov't trying to be a devoted disciple of MMY like they think they are. I find this really strange. The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than this on coffee, unhealthy fizzy drinks, and many more unhealthy unnecessary things every day. If one did it over 2 tears instead of 4, then it is still only $3.40 a day. Anyone who has the will to, can afford TM in the US. When I first wanted to learn about yogic knowledge, I was ready to give up everything and travel to India to find what I was looking for, at great risk to myself and my future. You are now proclaiming to the people of the world that they should not give up their cafe- lattes for Vedic knowledge? This incredibly selfish, since you have already had the benefit of the knowledge. Many people in the world have nothing to absorb the stress which pushes down upon them everyday. As a beneficiary of a practice that you can practice any day, any where, even in a prison, and find relief, if you have any conscience at all you should be telling as many people as you can, that TM only costs $3.40 a day for 2 years ! OffWorld I love what Ram Das says in Fierce Grace about so many westerners willing to buy into things they know little or nothing about. Fact is I could afford try TM at $75 back in 1973, it was not going to break me. But $4000 or whatever it is going for nowadays would be a different matter. I have also done my homework and know there are plenty of other techniques out there that are just as good if not better for a fraction of the cost. That homework involved not only learning to teach and teaching TM but teaching these other techniques. Plus a little travel to India helped to get rid of any preconceived notions about Indian philosophy. MMY has done a good job of marketing to snare a few into believing that TM is all that unique or special. But that's all it is, just marketing hype. - Bhairitu Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.
It's actually only a mere $2500--a bargain. :) Just give up a few lattes and there you go. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Bhairitu wrote: But $4000 or whatever it is going for nowadays would be a different matter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.
Give up a few lattes, fall asleep at work and lose your job. ;-) Sal Sunshine wrote: It's actually only a mere $2500--a bargain. :) Just give up a few lattes and there you go. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Bhairitu wrote: But $4000 or whatever it is going for nowadays would be a different matter. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than this on coffee, unhealthy fizzy drinks, and many more unhealthy unnecessary things every day. If one did it over 2 tears instead of 4, then it is still only $3.40 a day. Anyone who has the will to, can afford TM in the US. When I first wanted to learn about yogic knowledge, I was ready to give up everything and travel to India to find what I was looking for, at great risk to myself and my future. You are now proclaiming to the people of the world that they should not give up their cafe- lattes for Vedic knowledge? This incredibly selfish, since you have already had the benefit of the knowledge. Many people in the world have nothing to absorb the stress which pushes down upon them everyday. As a beneficiary of a practice that you can practice any day, any where, even in a prison, and find relief, if you have any conscience at all you should be telling as many people as you can, that TM only costs $3.40 a day for 2 years ! OffWorld The average uninitiated person isn't going to give up their minor comforts, pleasures, and bad habits to satisfy their curiosity about something so abstract. Especially if finding a regular practicing TMer is so rare and there are so many that learned and quit. You have to consider there are many times more people out there to say theylearned TM and got little or nothing out of it than can say it has opened the universe to them. Twenty -five hundred dollars is a very big commitment to the average person. To some, its represents a couple of mortgage payments, four, five or six car payments, Healthcare insurance premiums etc, things the average middle class person will not give up or risk not having in the future should he be between jobs for a period of time. Vedic knowledge? What the hell is that to the average person of western culture? It means nothing to them. If TM is going to out survive it's current practitioners it has to shake the cult image, stop all the Vedic this and Vedic that BS, get rid of the religious overtones and charge prices the average person can whip out a check book and right a check on the spot without a second thought to pay for the course. It needs to return to being an organization fun to work for and one not need to fear being black balled by others on power trips. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting, and Pure consciousness means Nothing to the average person until they have experienced it. Exactly. As I stated here in another thread $75 to try TM wasn't that much. At that time I had already had an experience of kundalini rising, learned some yoga asanas and also learned some of the self-inquiry techniques of Ramana Maharishi and his followers. I wanted a mantra meditation to deepen what I already was experiencing. I knew about other organizations but many appeared cult-like whereas at the time TM didn't at all. I was drawn mainly by recommendations of friends and MMY's paperback Transcendental Meditation where he addressed current social concerns from the beginning. It seemed much more practical than chanting in the streets or going to weekend intensives. More likely these days people will pass on TM due to price and seek out other organizations even if they go through several to find something that is right for them. It's good experience anyway. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
