All events are "Rashomon"shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [...] Therefore it is very conclusive as to what
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Therefore it is very
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In a message dated 11/30/05 9:55:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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But this
terrible death rate has dropped by about ninety-eight percent during the
second half of the twentieth century, between 1950 and 2000. This
corresponds to the fifty years of
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The insane claim is hyperbole, but to take the TMO seriously
you have to go through some pretty interesting, and not very
healthy, psychological gymnastics. The pundit saga is a prime
example. Also flying.
Shiva = Guru
In a message dated 12/1/05 3:03:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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The
Vietnamese were fighting to get their country back after years of
colonialism (now we do a lot of trade with them). We did the same
here and would again if invaded (well if we could drag
In a message dated 12/1/05 3:30:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Do you
pee in the cups of coffee of people you're mad at also?
That would be too Jesse Jacksonesque for
me.He does that?
Well he admitted to spitting in the food of white people when
he
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After twenty or so minutes we were getting to our feet, still
facing each other, but as I'm usually a little disoriented after
meditation, I was blinking at his beard when suddenly I became
aware
of two
In a message dated 12/1/05 8:39:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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While I agree with all that the advisory states, the only problem
for most people in the US is that the amazingly high cost of PK
offered by the TMO makes it essentially impossible to
On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:50 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Therefore it is very conclusive as to what happened, and not a Rashomon event at all. Well, Mia Farrow still maintains that MMY "put the moves on her." i'm not so sure
On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/1/05 8:39:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I agree with all that the advisory states, the only problem for most people in the US is that the amazingly high cost of PK offered by the TMO
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I didn't
believe her at first because I had the proto-Fairfield disease. But
clearly, she was telling me the truth. After all,
I don't know anything about Swami Gwho he is, where he comes from, his
disciples
nothing. But he seems peeved.
Also, he doesn't seem to understand that all language is metaphor. Sometimes
more,
sometimes less, but ALWAYS metaphor. If Swami G doesn't think it's legitimate
to talk
about a
There are credible reports from both people still in the TMO and outside the TMO of MMY behaving in a sexually inappropriate manner towards them. authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
MMY doesn't hug people. He doesn't like physical contact.bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings wrote: ""After twenty or so minutes we were getting to our feet, still facing each other, but as I'm usually a little disoriented after
Agree with you 100% Jim. MMY behavior pushes the mind until it can't invest anymore. You just have to let go. Anyone who has ever been on international staff or worked directly with MMY knows this through direct experience. MMY also does the same thing with the TMO at large. He f**ks with
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After twenty or so minutes we were getting to our feet, still
facing each other, but as I'm usually a little disoriented after
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I didn't
believe her at first because I had
on 12/1/05 8:46 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, sounds like Ned Wynne is a raving lunatic trying everything he
can to discredit MMY. It is completely different and has a
completely different tone and direction than Mia's own account which
basically stated , I was nutso
on 12/1/05 9:22 AM, bluecabbagerose at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To me, this has little to do with what Mia thought MMY was trying to
do and more to do with what MMY intentions were.
Was it just going to be an affectionate embrace? Very possible.
Was MMY about to put the moves on
on 12/1/05 6:22 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's exactly what Mia Farrow said (if the link below doesn't work,
go to Amazon.com and search what falls away and then do an in-the-
book search on maharishi and go to page 118):
Does anyone have information about demarcation of kosas or chakras intosubsections, other than vrittis for chakras?
What terms and concepts are used to individuate them?
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There are credible reports from both people still in the TMO and
outside the TMO of MMY behaving in a sexually inappropriate manner
towards them.
I think you may have missed what I wrote:
And while it isn't inconceivable
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Agree with you 100% Jim. MMY behavior pushes the mind until it
can't invest anymore. You just have to let go. Anyone who has ever
been on international staff or worked directly with MMY knows this
through direct experience.
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To me, this has little to do with what Mia thought MMY was trying
to
do and more to do with what MMY intentions were.
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And while it isn't inconceivable to me that MMY would
hit on some female follower, I have trouble imagining
he'd be so foolish as to risk a scandal with one of the
celebrities he was so carefully
On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Dharma Mitra wrote:
Does anyone have information about demarcation of kosas or chakras
into subsections, other than vrittis for chakras?
What terms and concepts are used to individuate them?
There are the petals of the chakras which all support different
On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:03 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree with you 100% Jim. MMY behavior pushes the mind until it can't invest anymore. You just have to let go. Anyone who has ever been on international staff or worked
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://mou.org/media/replay_pr.html
QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS: NOVEMBER 16, 2005
Maharishi, National Public Radio in the United States recently
reported that deaths due to war in the first half of the twentieth
Title: Da Girlz
Where you stand on this issue depends on how strong your need is to believe in Maharishi as an ideal human being and how direct your knowledge of the alleged affairs is.
Presuming the women are telling the truth, and you are one of them, then its not a matter of belief or
--- Vaj wrote:
the most spiritual of the Beatles, George, put it
plainly in his own autobiography when he said that TM was just too
simplistic. After all, he was interested in enlightenment. So he
dumped it as a method and moved on to something better.
What did George next embrace
He can be only in one field at a time, Unified or Yonified. He cannot be in both at the same time. Maybe, all the women who are lying are 'Honky Tonk' women.??OriginalMessage- From: "Vaj" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Nov 30, 2005, at 2:23 PM, hanumanhoffman9 wrote:
Wasn't it Dattatreya who initiated Matsyendranath?
Dattatreya lived about 2500 BC, so I have my doubts if this was the
historical person who initiated him. He was a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 30, 2005, at 2:23 PM, hanumanhoffman9 wrote:
The Vashnavite revival also coincides with the rise of the mercantile
castes.
I don't understand what you mean by rise. When did these castes
not exist?
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In a message dated 12/1/05 3:03:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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The Vietnamese were fighting to get their country back after years of
colonialism (now we do a lot of trade with them). We did the same here
and would again if invaded
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MMY doesn't hug people. He doesn't like physical contact.
bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
wrote:
After twenty or so minutes we were getting to our
Jaya Guru Datta
http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/bhaktimala/August-Bhaktimala/Augustanagha.html
Anagha Devi
By Sri Kuppa V.Krishna Murthy
http://www.serveveda.org/kvkmurthy.htm
(Continued from last month)
(In the previous issue, we set out with the question - Is God male or female?
And
Mark, the genetic code is the same, but there is a slight difference with regard to Indian men. Indian men pinch the women in their butt, while traveling in overcrowded Indian buses, in Indian cities.OriginalMessage- From: "markmeredith2002" [EMAIL
From what has been written here;
It's just a crying shame, that little Mia, and her little story,
persuaded so many in the press to write Maharishi off, which is what
they so wanted to do.
All this was about a hug; what a shame.
I guess she prefers hugs from Gangsters, and Perverts...
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[I wrote:]
Not to mention that the guy in question is an Indian
guru-type whose cultural move-making signals might well
be entirely different from what one would expect from a
Westerner.
Lots of indian men
Bush the
Republican, House Senate have consistently lowered your
myfederaltax bill that of our estate taxes
as well! So do NOT worry Mr Dixon. Your will NOT get his
taxreturnBULL. NO tax increasesin legislation @
present!Perhaps send
him ours after Clinton's increase in largest by %
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wrote:
Jaya Guru Datta
http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/bhaktimala/August-
Bhaktimala/Augustanagha.html
Anagha Devi
By Sri Kuppa
Uffaffaa! U don't wanna know what kuppa
means hereabouts! :)
From a friend:
Namaste Guruji,
G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am asking that you answer her question
Honestly ...
J: Ok...here it is.
I received the traditional diksha from Swami-G...which means that there was
an altar with various statues, a shiva lingham and pictures of her guru and
others in
On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:31 PM, hanumanhoffman9 wrote:
He is walking Mother Earth at present, in the form of Sri Ganapathi
Sachchidananda
Swamiji, Avadhuta Dattapeetha, Mysore, India providing the sweetest
sounds of Raga
Ragini Vidya.
I didn't know.
So is he considered *an* avatar or
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where you stand on this issue depends on how strong your need is
to believe
in Maharishi as an ideal human being and how direct your knowledge
of the
alleged affairs is.
Presuming the women are telling the truth,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:31 PM, hanumanhoffman9 wrote:
He is walking Mother Earth at present, in the form of Sri Ganapathi
Sachchidananda
Swamiji, Avadhuta Dattapeetha, Mysore, India providing the sweetest
sounds of
Jaya Guru Datta
Today Dec 1st begins the month of Margashirsa. It is the month that Lord
Krishna declared
as Him. December 15th is the Purnima and Datta Jayanthi celebrating the
appearance of
Lord Dattatreya.
It is my intention to post an excerpt from the Life History of Sri Ganapathi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bush the Republican, House Senate have consistently lowered your my
federal tax bill that of our estate taxes as well! So do NOT worry Mr
Dixon. Your will NOT get his tax return BULL. NO tax increases in
legislation @
In a message dated 12/1/05 1:38:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You seem
to be a bit confused to whom you are replying. The thread shows a
reply to Jason though it is to my post. As for stealing the oil Bush
said "don't burn the oil fields"
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The insane claim is hyperbole, but to take the TMO seriously you
have to go through some pretty interesting, and not very healthy,
psychological gymnastics. The pundit saga is a prime example.
Also flying.
we,
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on 12/1/05 8:46 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wow, sounds like Ned Wynne is a raving lunatic trying everything
he
can to discredit MMY. It is completely different and has a
completely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
on 12/1/05 8:46 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wow, sounds like Ned Wynne is a raving lunatic trying everything
he
can to discredit MMY. It is
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To me, this has little to do with what Mia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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From what has been written here;
It's just a crying shame, that little Mia, and her little story,
persuaded so many in the press to write Maharishi off, which is what
they so wanted to do.
All this was about
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/1/05 1:38:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You seem to be a bit confused to whom you are replying. The thread
shows a reply to Jason though it is to my post. As for stealing the oil
Bush said don't burn the oil
So perhaps scientists have found the OM of the universe. Or is that
stretching the metaphor a little too far
Black Hole Strikes Deepest Musical Note Ever Heard
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 01:50 pm ET
09 September 2003
Astronomers have detected the deepest note ever
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wrote:
on 12/1/05 5:16 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hmmm, you mean when she was practically having a nervous breakdown.
In addition, the guy was not there. We take the account of the
person who was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A friend just forwarded this. -V.
Bill Bushell Researching the Health Effects of Adanced Yogic Practice
Indo-Tibetan yoga holds that regenerative, health-enhancing,
protective substances are secreted from upper regions
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wrote:
the following is an email someone forwarded to me.
What I am doing is assisting the greatest Master of all times to use the
most powerful forces in THIS universe (probably all the rest as well) to
change the course
jim_flanegin wrote:
I am learning more from the weather today- very, very active with
rain and wind- than I am from who we call Maharishi. Again, not sure
there is a significant difference there...
Yes, the monsoons are upon those of us living in the Bay Area. ;-)
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the following is an email someone forwarded to me.
What I am doing is assisting the greatest Master of all times to
use the
most
on 12/1/05 7:40 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So he is assisting the greatest Master of all times -- of whom never
before has anyone like him been on earth and never again will there be
-- to use the most powerful forces in THIS universe, the Unified Field
which is AT LEAST ten
On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:32 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
No he didn't. You are dreaming and pushing your anti-TM agenda again.
Here is what George said:
In 1977:
I've had alot of interest in different ways and one of the things I
never liked was the whole bit in the late '60s when everybody
On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Vaj wrote:
I'll try to find the quote for you on why he went on to other things.
It was short-lived infatuation. Lennon soon thought the Maharishi to
be a charlatan and pilloried him in the song Sexy Sadie. Starr
didn't like the food and came back to England
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On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Vaj wrote:
I'll try to find the quote for you on why he went on to other
things.
It was short-lived infatuation. Lennon soon thought the Maharishi
to
be a charlatan and pilloried him in
On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:44 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
I am British and I was in Britain in 1992, and I saw george speak in
AT LEAST a dozen interviews on British TV (BBC and ITV) about his
support for Maharishi's Natural Law Party. This is where this last
quote came from.
Perhaps it is.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:32 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
No he didn't. You are dreaming and pushing your anti-TM agenda
again.
Here is what George said:
In 1977:
I've had alot of interest in different ways and one of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:44 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
I am British and I was in Britain in 1992, and I saw george
speak in
AT LEAST a dozen interviews on British TV (BBC and ITV) about his
support for Maharishi's Natural
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:32 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
snip
And as late as 1998 I know people who saw him in Vlodrop getting
Jyotish and gemstone recommendations.
Unsubstantiated rumor. Since movement people love to make this
This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter
devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself.
The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this comment
by George:
Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been
with him
on 12/1/05 8:23 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And as late as 1998 I know people who saw him in Vlodrop getting
Jyotish and gemstone recommendations.
George visited Vlodrop, as did Paul, with his daughter. I had many friends
there at the time who filled me in on the details. George also
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Again the Paul rumor is just that, a rumor and most likely
desperate disinformation. But if it is true it only shows that
Paul was the bigger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 12/1/05 8:23 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And as late as 1998 I know people who saw him in Vlodrop getting
Jyotish and gemstone recommendations.
George visited Vlodrop, as did Paul, with his daughter.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/1/05 1:38:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You seem to be a bit confused to whom you are replying. The
thread
shows a reply to Jason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A friend just forwarded this. -V.
Bill Bushell Researching the Health Effects of Adanced Yogic
Practice
Indo-Tibetan yoga holds that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter
devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself.
The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this comment
by
on 12/1/05 9:40 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This part is true:
Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been
with him physically, I never left him.
- George Harrison.
http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm
This part is ape-like
LB, there have been previous posts you may be
interested in.
The first one, below, has a link to the G website.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79472
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I don't know anything about Swami Gwho he is, where
he comes from, his
Also, on a visit to the New York area in 2000, Janet Hoffman,
long-time TM teacher in Manhattan, told me that she had spent a
delightful week in Lancaster, MA getting pancha karma and George was
there the whole time she was and he was a total riot (as in funny).
--- In
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