Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread salyavin808
Respond intelligently to what, your comments on the LINK I posted about Soma? You didn't make any, you went on a meaningless ramble about TM translations as though they are different somehow from the ones everyone else reads. Look at the wiki article. Soma is drink made from a plant. Why the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread salyavin808
Nice editing. You are conveniently dishonest when it suits you. I don't get why you find communicating so difficult, as soon as you get on the losing side of an argument you start railing and twisting against irrelevant points that are all perfectly valid in an argument against the ME by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread salyavin808
That's the guy. He did some good thinking on it and offered an explanation of why the rest of the scientific world doesn't take it seriously. The onus is very much on the TMO to prove it or at least explain it so others can get an idea of how it might .work - the feasibility of how it might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/3/2014 10:08 AM, Share Long wrote: Theoretically they could even find soma in the blood. Maybe, but after all, the ancient Vedic rishis used to drink the soma but the recipe was lost thousands of years ago and the plant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates   Nice editing. You are conveniently dishonest when it suits you.  I don't get why you find

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread LEnglish5
That's likely true of all b ut the most clearcut examples of new research programmes. The problem is that the TM organization abandoned attempting to conduct new research on the topic, so we're left with stale research. Any theory can be rescued however, if proponents care to put enough time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread LEnglish5
I don't know if Barry ever suggested that (he never mentioned it to me that I remember) but I've been suggestiing variations on that idea for decades. The problem has been that Fred Travis' original research along that line (his PhD thesis actually) used 40 seconds average EEG and that's too

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
The point I don't understand, Lawson, is WHY anyone would want to do research to validate or prove something as ludicrous as We can affect other people and the world by bouncing around on our butts on slabs of foam. Please explain to me HOW anyone could develop enough of an attachment to such

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's likely true of all but the most clearcut examples of new research programmes. The problem is that the TM organization abandoned attempting to conduct new research on the topic, so we're left with stale research That

[FairfieldLife] The Path of Ascent

2014-04-04 Thread nablusoss1008
by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme, 4 February 2014 Within each man and woman sits a God, potential as yet but everlasting. As they go through the experiences of what we call life, they make a journey, which in the end turns out to have been a step towards oneness with that God,

[FairfieldLife] Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic Resort in the Himalaya

2014-04-04 Thread nablusoss1008
Nice pictures and music from Anamay Ashram in the Himalayas run by Purushas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksO7Nu995s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksO7Nu995s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates   The point I don't understand, Lawson, is WHY anyone would want

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
Anticipating comments from cult apologist masters disputing this, and claiming that the idea of the Maharishi Effect has been present since 1960, I challenge you to come up with a mention of the Maharishi Effect *per se* in *any* publication before 1978 (the years covered by my account below),

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
turq, I think it's part of human nature to want to share with others whatever we have found that enriches life, increases happiness, etc. I think doing research is part of that aspect of human nature. And also an expression of innate human curiosity to better understand ourselves and the world

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
salyavin, is it possible that soma is both? Both something found in plants and in the gut of long term spiritual practitioners? On Friday, April 4, 2014 1:10 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Respond intelligently to what, your comments on the LINK I posted about Soma? You

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Path of Ascent

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Thank you, Nablusoss, I find the tone of this very beautiful, very nourishing for my soul. I think we're all fortunate to be living in such amazing times. OTOH, maybe all humans in all ages think that (-: On Friday, April 4, 2014 4:09 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic Resort in the Himalaya

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
how can it be run by purushas if there are woman there? Oh, I forgot, they are following in Marshy's footsteps, claiming celibacy but then...? On Fri, 4/4/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Yoga with Walpurgis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
I think I'll go over the the university and shake Professor Markovsky's hand for his mighty fine erudite analysis of the Marshy Effect. On Fri, 4/4/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Steve, I didn't know that about Communion, that some people think of it as cannabalism. I can see how they might think that. As for me, I've never been comfortable having some of the wine, which is allegedly become the blood of Christ. Maybe the early Christians morphed what Jesus did at the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates   turq, I think it's part of human nature to want to share with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Those are excellent points. The ME is the reason behind the yagya program as well, as supposedly the effect of yagya enhances or is similar to ME so that world peace can be achieved by yagya (ignoring that fact that India itself is a rather rough place to live for most of its population even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
turq, the physics of it makes sense to me. That's all. And even this morning I received a newsletter from a non TM group explaining how changing 1% of a system improved the whole kit and caboodle. On Friday, April 4, 2014 7:08 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:   From: Share Long

Re: [FairfieldLife] [Fairfield] Logically Preparing

2014-04-04 Thread j_alexander_stanley
No, they just want to winter down there, away from the cold. Rory has quite a passion for the fossilized shark teeth that can be found there. They're keeping the house in Fairfield. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote : Rory is quitting, Fairfield?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread salyavin808
I couldn't begin to calculate the chances of a coincidence like that Share! The 9th mandala is about a drink made from plants, and it must have been a good one considering how much they go on about it. The idea of good digestion giving you good spiritual experiences is a given though,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread steve.sundur
Share, I think you can find all manner of opinions about communion. I just mentioned that as one comment I once heard. As rituals go,it seems okay to me. Is it hurting anyone? Not that I can see. Does it bring people some measure of comfort, or spiritual upliftment? It seems to.

Re: [FairfieldLife] [Fairfield] Logically Preparing

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [Fairfield] Logically Preparing   No, they just want to winter down there, away from the cold. Rory has quite a passion for

Re: [FairfieldLife] [Fairfield] Logically Preparing

2014-04-04 Thread dhamiltony2k5
“We are a group of people who have come together and created a community for a transcendentally important common purpose, which of course is to practice the Transcendental Meditation program and the TM-Sidhi program together as a group, for the sake of bringing coherence to national and world

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Path of Ascent

2014-04-04 Thread nablusoss1008
Very nice Share, you caught the essence of the message. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you, Nablusoss, I find the tone of this very beautiful, very nourishing for my soul. I think we're all fortunate to be living in such amazing times. OTOH, maybe all

Re: [FairfieldLife] [Fairfield] Logically Preparing

2014-04-04 Thread nablusoss1008
Probably more Giant Gellyfish there as well ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : No, they just want to winter down there, away from the cold. Rory has quite a passion for the fossilized shark teeth that can be found there. They're keeping the house in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
I have never seen that article before - give great historical perspective - especially the comment that they expected several thousand sidha permanently in Fairfield - guess they got that one wrong - also love the comment about Marshy's stretch limo.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic Resort in the Himalaya

2014-04-04 Thread nablusoss1008
The Purushas at Anamay Ashram are no longer part of the official programme and are free to do what they want. Urs Stroebel, the founder, simply followed Maharishi's onetime wish to have a Pundit Programme at that spot called the Switzerland of India and started the school and now: The Anamay

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
I don't nor have I ever castigated CW Leadbeater - I merely reported what has been written about him - by all accounts he had a fondness for sexual encounters with teenage boys, an activity that he indulged in and made into some sort of spiritual mumbo jumbo. As a result he was kicked out of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic Resort in the Himalaya

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
then they can't be purusha - purusha means being singular, being celibate, doesn't it? Purusha as Marshy did it anyway. On Fri, 4/4/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
No, the question of whether it's literal or symbolic/metaphorical/poetic applies to any translation, not just the one TM uses. I was unclear on that point, sorry. As to why Maharishi had us read it in translation, if you'll recall we were instructed not to pay any attention to the semantic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chupacabra Captured in Texas

2014-04-04 Thread Pundit Sir
It looks like he needs to find a job. It looks like somebody gave the vato some money. [image: Inline image 1] On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: It looks like he needs to find a job.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little House on the Prairie

2014-04-04 Thread Pundit Sir
We also looked at this little house on the prairie and it needs a little fixing up. The nice thing about this place is it's on the prairie with a nice view. And, there are lots of prairie dogs. [image: Inline image 1] On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: We

[FairfieldLife] 1968!!

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
This article on Marshy just pretty much nails it! From 1968http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/04/the_maharishi_m.php

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic Resort in the Himalaya

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
so this would also mean the TMO doesn't recognize and sanction what these guys are doing there, eh? On Fri, 4/4/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga with Walpurgis 2 - at Anamay Vedic Resort in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little House on the Prairie

2014-04-04 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : We also looked at this little house on the prairie and it needs a little fixing up. The nice thing about this place is it's on the prairie with a nice view. And, there are lots of prairie dogs. And look, you already

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 1:09 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Soma is drink made from a plant. In fact, the Vedic soma was a decoction made from a combination of ingredients, one of which was an alkaloid substance - the amanita muscaria. Apparently the recipe for Vedic soma was lost due to the long lapse of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Nope. Well, Turquoiseb is in error about his 1978 assertion and you are wrong for thinking he is right. You guys just want to hate on Maharishi at every turn. The Meissner-Like Effect of consciousness coherence in the “Maharishi Effect” in publication goes back to at least [ 1976 ] with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 2:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Try some magic mushrooms. The use of substances is a ritual practice that is abundantly attested in the shamanic world as well as among some yogins, and in the Aryana Vedas. We know that Patanjali himself puts simples (ausadhi), together with samadhi,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's the guy. He did some good thinking on it and offered an explanation of why the rest of the scientific world doesn't take it seriously. The onus is very much on the TMO to prove it or at least explain it so others

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates Nice editing. You are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The point I don't understand, Lawson, is WHY anyone would want to do research to validate or prove something as ludicrous as We can affect other people and the world by bouncing around on our butts on slabs of foam. Please

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 6:36 AM, Share Long wrote: Both something found in plants and in the gut of long term spiritual practitioners? Good question, Share. The primary ingredient in TM's bio-chemical laboratory is probably seratonin. The substance has been shown, in scientific studies, to be connected

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Share, I think you can find all manner of opinions about communion. I just mentioned that as one comment I once heard. As rituals go,it seems okay to me. Is it hurting anyone? Not that I can see. Does it bring people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates   Nope. Well, Turquoiseb is in error about his 1978 assertion and you are wrong

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 7:04 AM, Share Long wrote: Maybe the early Christians morphed what Jesus did at the Last Supper to something more similar to what the pagans were doing. It's all about the sacrifice, bth pagan and later Semitic, then Christian. The greatest principle of Vedic thinkers was the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little House on the Prairie

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 8:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Just wondering what those longer boards sticking up above the front doorway and window are for. Perhaps they are indicative of some advanced Vastu installatation. Well, I think that what you are seeing with the high boards on top is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Richard, thank you for all the wonderful knowledge you're posting this morning. And I admit that I cringe at the word sacrifice. Can we substitute the word surrender? BTW, this morning my yogic flying had a wonderful devotional quality. That happens once in a while and I'm always grateful when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Thank you for these beautiful points, Ann. Now I'll do the Libra thing and mention how ancient people would eat various body parts of slain enemies to ingest their courage, etc. Go figure! On Friday, April 4, 2014 9:05 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:   ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
salyavin, I think it'll be fascinating when science can give us an indication of what might be meant by gods in this context and also by eating. BTW, I think soma has something to do with immortality so no wonder they sing its praises. On Friday, April 4, 2014 8:05 AM, salyavin808

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread emilymaenot
And yet, the word sacrifice bothers you. Share, in all your posts to Ann, you try to find a way to try and show that you are one upping her or, mostly, you work to throw dirty dish water or treat the essence of what she says with contempt (even if you acknowledge them, as you did here). But,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Emily, I am adding another point to what I think is a multi faceted and therefore fascinating topic. You completely misinterpret me here as I think you often do. On Friday, April 4, 2014 10:25 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:   And yet, the word sacrifice bothers

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread emilymaenot
Just doing the Libra thing here, Share. Smile. You can't see yourself objectively; you don't know yourself as well as you think you do, imho. Have a good day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Emily, I am adding another point to what I think is a multi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you for these beautiful points, Ann. Now I'll do the Libra thing and mention how ancient people would eat various body parts of slain enemies to ingest their courage, etc. Go figure! Exactly my point. No one would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread emilymaenot
Corrected... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : And yet, the word sacrifice bothers you. Share, in all your posts to Ann, you try to find a way to try and show that you are one upping her or, mostly, you work to throw dirty dish water on her points or treat the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread anartaxius
I recall the marketing for the TM-Sidhi programme and it was pretty much as Barry has said. I found the following on the MUM website (*emphasis added*): The World Peace Project *Immediately following the discovery of the Super-Radiance effect in the Fall off 1978*, Maharishi decided to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Harvesting the Moon

2014-04-04 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/03/2014 08:33 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 04/03/2014 06:53 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Once the Heidelberg color presses were purchased [early 1970's] Maharishi published in cycle through the decades major volumes that he edited that show the progression of the science, thought, and programs. It was all for linking modern science research in spirituality. He was remarkably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread anartaxius
Buck, Maharishi did a lot of interesting things. In the world of science, however, it is data and confirmation of hypotheses that drive forward. A scientist that has a successful career is basically working to extend knowledge, and does so by superseding, by surpassing his mentors, and in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread anartaxius
Correction: Neo dropped out the link to the quote from MUM.edu below http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelId=622793 http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelId=622793 -- ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread anartaxius
Correction, Neo dropped the link to the MUM web page quoted below: http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelId=622793 http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelId=622793 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I recall the marketing for the TM-Sidhi programme and it was pretty much

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread emilymaenot
My apologies Share. I was just checking to see if my conscience was working. It is! I will refrain from posting to you. How was what you posted a Libra thang - did you mean that you were operating to balance? Was there a need for that? Rather, it was consistent with the overall theme of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread dhamiltony2k5
As much as people want to dump on Maharishi as being some secreted ultra-traditional nationalistic hindoo-ist, the record shows they guy to be quite a modern and spiritual human. He was incredibly consistent looking at the whole progression as science, spirituality in consciousness, and policy

[FairfieldLife] Send the Koch brothers to Mars

2014-04-04 Thread Bhairitu
They are a aligned with Monsanto to get a bill passed in Congress to make it illegal for states to mandate GMO labeling. We don't need these stinkin' landed gentry. Let's send them to Mars. http://rt.com/usa/gmo-labeling-koch-monsanto-249/ PS: Nabby should note the crop circle at the top of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread nablusoss1008
Maharishi was more modern than those 50 years younger, always moving forward, showing infinite flexibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : As much as people want to dump on Maharishi as being some secreted ultra-traditional nationalistic hindoo-ist, the

[FairfieldLife] Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Nice write up: Maharishi inspired Beatles but died leaving £2b and rape rumours The Mirror, UK/February 7, 2008 By Nick Webster He inspired the Beatles and promised world peace but died leaving £2 billion amid rumours of rape and murder He was the Sixth Beatle, a spiritual force with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
Ah, yes, so objective, so accurate, so balanced. Right, Michael? Nice write up: Maharishi inspired Beatles but died leaving £2b and rape rumours The Mirror, UK/February 7, 2008 By Nick Webster He inspired the Beatles and promised world peace but died leaving £2 billion amid rumours

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread anartaxius
Maharishi showed a lot of creativity in marketing TM. I recall reading an article by a sociologist (I think) in the 'Skeptical Inquirer' about TM mentioning how he completely changed the image of the movement from your basic Hindu/Vedic base virtually over night by introducing new language,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
you only say that cause you never went to the Deep South and encountered any dirt eaters (also known as clay eaters) On Fri, 4/4/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Umm, forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by his time with Saraswati? this is the first I have heard of it. On Fri, 4/4/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce

Re: [FairfieldLife] Send the Koch brothers to Mars

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
noozguru, I guess the Koch brothers are worried that if GMO labeling becomes mandatory, their fortune will decrease from 100 billion to 99 billion! Poor babies )-: On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:30 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:   They are a aligned with Monsanto to get a bill

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
Actually, the term Maharishi Effect was invented in 1974, to refer to the 1 percent effect in the cities studied by Borland and Landrith (that's paper 98 in Volume 1 of the Collected Papers--the first edition--that Buck refers to below). Maharishi had predicted it a decade previously. For

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Bucky, I do give the Old Goat ALL the respect he actually deserves and that's a fact. On Fri, 4/4/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
God Amighty! He wasn't even a regular Hindu! Show me anywhere in the Hindu religion where it is taught that soma is a substance created in the human digestive system that is eaten by the Hindu gods in exchange for favors!?! He was a Hindu fanatic, and a very superstitious one at that. Plus I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
its not a suck up to the movement if that's what you mean - fairly objective from a non-TM journalists point of view, yes. You need to remember that those who have never done TM and have no reason to do so are not going to be wowed by all the bull crap claims, especially if they have any common

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
The woman who got TM kicked out of her son's high school is a practicing Hindu, tho she is not Indian. She told me the other day that Marshy's superstitious crap he taught like the humans as a buffet line for soma eating Hindu gods really rubs Hindus the wrong way. And her Hindu friends who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
I wasn't referring to any of the TMO's claims, Michael. its not a suck up to the movement if that's what you mean - fairly objective from a non-TM journalists point of view, yes. You need to remember that those who have never done TM and have no reason to do so are not going to be wowed by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Send the Koch brothers to Mars

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Send the Koch brothers to Mars Addressing the important issues! On 4/4/2014 11:30 AM, Bhairitu wrote: They are a aligned with Monsanto to get a bill passed in Congress to make it illegal for states to mandate GMO labeling. We don't need these stinkin' landed gentry. Let's send them to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
Did any of her Hindu friends read the actual transcript or see the tape, or are they relying on Trancenet's unforgettable image of ravening Gods jostling each other to feed at the stomachs of TMers around the world to get their share of the mythical Soma or your humans as a buffet line for soma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Emily, I've heard that Libras like to show at least two opposite sides of an issue. And though I'm merely a Libra ascendent, I have that quality. As I said, the topic of humans and divinities ingesting one another is fascinating to me. Ingesting and tapping here (-: On Friday, April 4, 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy   its not a suck up to the movement if that's what you mean - fairly objective from a non-TM journalists point of view, yes. You need to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
And, Nablusoss, Maharishi was always the visionary. IMHO it was genius on his part to have MUM establish exchange programs with universities in China. Wonderful to see so many young Chinese women in the Dome. On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:38 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Xeno, personally I'm glad that the TMO is now putting its resources into relieving suffering, such as with the street children in South America and combat stressed veterans rather than adding to the huge and existing body research on TM. On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:04 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 3:45 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: The point I don't understand, Lawson, is WHY anyone would want to do research to validate or prove So, you don't have all the answers. Apparently Rama levitating was actually just a series of point-instants that appear and disappear instantly - so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
Guru Dev. Umm, forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by his time with Saraswati? this is the first I have heard of it. On Fri, 4/4/14, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote: Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates   Did any of her Hindu friends read the actual transcript or see the tape, or are they

Re: [FairfieldLife] SuperDooperStition

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/3/2014 8:00 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Suffice it to say the whole thing turns into an epic battle between the heretics and the gods that puts the battle scenes in the Bhagavad-Gita righteously in the shade. Does it bother anyone else that the mime is talking? Almost everything mentioned

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 9:32 AM, Share Long wrote: And I admit that I cringe at the word sacrifice. Can we substitute the word surrender? The Vedic Aryans that came into India around 1500 BC were very fond of the caste system, the *sacrifice*, the rituals, and the secret mantras found in the Rig Veda.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/4/2014 11:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: All but one of the Beatles cut their ties with their apparently celibate guru after it emerged he'd made a pass at Mia Farrow. Just to add to this outdated thread, isn't it interesting that Mia's sister, Prudence (from the Dear Prudence fame) is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Send the Koch brothers to Mars

2014-04-04 Thread Bhairitu
Thanks. I try to do that. After all you DO want to know which foods have glyphosates in them don't you? On 04/04/2014 10:28 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Send the Koch brothers to Mars Addressing the important issues! On 4/4/2014 11:30 AM, Bhairitu wrote: They are a aligned with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods

2014-04-04 Thread Share Long
Wonderful history, Richard and I love that: you're only gonna get as much enlightenment as you're going to get. It's extremely relaxing. And it's fascinating to me that the practice of outer sacrifice is somehow connected to the caste system. Probably a practical issue. Meaning that only the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Send the Koch brothers to Mars

2014-04-04 Thread Bhairitu
Lord Charles and Lord David don't like the way we make fun of them. Here is Lord Charles op-ed from this week: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303978304579475860515021286 I think I'll do a sequel to my popular Republican Cry Babies video on YouTube with Charles and David

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread authfriend
You know exactly what my point is here, Barry, and you also know it has nothing to do with belief in any of this on my part. If the transcript of the tape is accurate, neither of those descriptions are justifiable in terms of what Maharishi actually said. Apparently the ideas Maharishi was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread anartaxius
His Holiness Brahmananda Saraswati http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Umm, forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by his time with Saraswati? this is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
neither was I On Fri, 4/4/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 4, 2014, 5:26 PM  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
contact her and ask her if you want to know - she was actually referring to other aspects of his teaching as well, tho she did not say specifically what. I sent her both links so she may have read both pages. I read, as you call it, the actual transcript and tho the author of the piece on it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Jackson
oh that Saraswati - I thought you meant the goddess of knowledge On Fri, 4/4/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Research Shows Group Meditation Can Reduce Crime Rates To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

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