From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
Harris
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Thanks. How would you
Good example. An old and practicing meditator like Rick is so entrained in the
transcendent and the culture of the transcendent he ought to be invited back to
meditate along with the big group in some way. An old meditator like Rick could
easily just be asked to join with the group and
turq, the term *spiritual experience* not only contains the word experience. It
also contains the word spiritual which pertains to spirit and thus for many has
to do with God.
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
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turq, the term *spiritual experience* not only contains the word
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From: Share Long sharelong60@...
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating
possibility for research as the ability to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I
On 5/8/2014 1:52 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
It's irrelevant for millions of Buddhists, who (like me) have no need
to postulate a God.
Traditionally Buddhists throughout the Buddhist world consider that the
universe contains more beings in it than are normally visible to humans.
Buddhists have
On 5/8/2014 1:52 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
The discussion of spiritual experience ISN'T ABOUT GOD.
You are not even making any sense. The discussion of /*spiritual
experiences*/ assumes the belief in a /*spirit world or spirits*/. For
someone who ascribes to Advaita Vedanta, the /*spirit is
On 5/8/2014 6:30 AM, Share Long wrote:
turq, the term *spiritual experience* not only contains the word
experience. It also contains the word spiritual which pertains to
spirit and thus for many has to do with God.
Not sure if TB can understand this subtle observation,Share - he seems
to be
On 5/8/2014 6:55 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
It also contains the word spiritual which pertains to spirit and thus
for many has to do with God.
My point, Share, is that the term spiritual doesn't *have* to have
anything to do with God.
Now this is really funny! /The word spiritual doesn't have
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I
On 5/8/2014 8:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with
to describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a
fascinating possibility for research as the ability to measure such
becomes better.
I agree,
I include the insights of atheism as a spiritual understanding if you equate
spiritual growth as a growth of an awareness of truth. My interest in
discovering what is real in life is no different now than it was when I was
into the Maharishi deal. Same motivation, just different content.
Some
Spirit means breath, or wind (the latter of which Richard has plenty). I agree
with Barry here. Spiritual experience is about the nature of experience, about
that rather mysterious quality called consciousness. My spiritual experience
evolved entirely in the absence of a belief in something
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Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam
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snip
Barry makes perfect sense here.
Well, that's a first. :-) Careful, or a few
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 5/8/2014 6:55 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
It also contains the word spiritual which pertains to spirit and thus for many
has to do with God.
My point, Share, is that the term spiritual doesn't *have* to have anything
to do
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 5/8/2014 8:49 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
As for God, that too may simply be a word that ancients came up with to
describe a certain kind of neurological experience. I find that a fascinating
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
Curtis, I may be wrong and I may be presumptuous in saying so but my sense, in
reading your recent posts, is that in the last year - maybe through the
experiences with your aging father, maybe not - that you have learned some very
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Spirit means breath, or wind (the latter of which Richard has plenty). I agree
with Barry here. Spiritual experience is about the nature of experience, about
that rather mysterious quality called consciousness. My spiritual experience
Hey, I laughed, too... :-)
Rick Archer is really a great example of the complexion of TM in the Fairfield
meditating community and the TM movement at large. Rick's old friend John
Hagelin should do something to facilitate and invite Rick back in to meditation
with the group again. The field effect of the collective
On 5/8/2014 9:58 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
Barry makes perfect sense here.
It doesn't make /*perfect*/ sense to me.
First, a belief in /reincarnation/ implies a belief in a /soul-monad/
that transmigrates at death into another human body. What is it exactly,
that reincarnates?
Really important meeting tonite.
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On 5/8/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Barry makes perfect sense here.
Well, that's a first. :-) Careful, or a few people here will pile onto
you for saying such a heretical thing. But thanks for saying it.
Just for the record, not everyone thinks /everything/ Barry has posted
is
Show me the people out there in MUM that are in perfect health and I'll come
too.
On Thu, 5/8/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tonite ;Sanskrit Reverberation and EEG 8pm MUM
To:
You are so damned literal. Don't be a jackass. Is metaphorical Sort of like
Jesus with parables, Maharishi's talking about spiritual experience which you
obviously lack.
But hey,, the lecture is open to anybody, even Waking Down people and such
meditators in town who might not have Dome
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You are so damned literal. Don't be a jackass. Is metaphorical Sort of like
Jesus with parables, Maharishi's talking about spiritual experience which you
obviously lack.
But hey,, the lecture is open to anybody, even Waking Down people
On 5/8/2014 12:10 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Show me the people out there in MUM that are in perfect health and
I'll come too.
Probably more healthy people at MUM /practicing TM/ than in your
average street in downtown China - all practicing /chi gung/. Go figure.
China smog
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This
Reincarnation? I don't believe in it -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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Hey, I laughed, too... :-)
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists
Reincarnation? I don't believe in it -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
He
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists
If you're going to quote the Rish, at least do it correctly. The exact quote
is, Reincarnation?
OK, let me rephrase with a direct quote from Marshy, the Old Goat himself -
Perfect health
means perfection in every field for everyone on earth.
Show me the people who in Fairfield and esp. at MUM who are living perfection
in every field of life and I'll come. That is just another crappy
If you're going to quote the Rish, at least do it correctly. The exact quote
is, Reincarnation? We are opposed to it.
From my side, I laughed at this in spite of the fact that I've always assumed
that Reformed Buddhists would be the ones marching around in front of
monasteries carrying protest
I noticed he did say even the Waking Down people - they must be on some extra
nasty to be banned from the Domes list - you know the Domes, the place where
they pay some folks minimum wage to go round and poke folks who are falling
asleep with a stick so's they can be awake and do that utterly
Just to be picky, I don't believe in it can mean either I don't believe it
exists or I'm opposed to it. If you're opposed to abortion, you might well
say, I don't believe in abortion.
Anyway, what I heard that he said was Reincarnation is for the ignorant,
which is better than either.
'doctor dumbass' has expired (frowny face) ...and been reborn (hallelujah!) --
I am living in a mobile home park, in Chico, sussing out the town, for a
possible move -- hence my new nom de plume, 'fleetwood_macncheese', which has
nothing to do with the band, and more to do with my brand --
And it's a college town so it isn't just filled with dumb rednecks and
you'll have some intelligent people to talk to. I heard local radio
host Frosty mention that Chico had houses at about 1/3 the price of
Bay Area homes. Maybe one can save enough money to solarize one so
that you can keep
I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had
basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher
'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?'
The subject of reincarnation I find intriguing because, from a spiritual point
If you haven't already done so, check out the Sierra Nevada Brewery and taste
their beer for free. Also, there's Clairveaux Winery in nearby Vina which
offer a free taste of their wines as well.
Further, visit the Basque restaurant in town for a real feast. It's not free,
but hey!
On 5/8/2014 1:12 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Reincarnation? I don't believe in it -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Just as in the physical body of the embodied being is the process of
childhood, youth, old age; similarly in the transmigration from one body
to another the wise are never deluded. - BG
My rule of thumb here is that anything under $1M in the Bay Area, is 1/3 of
that, here. Anything over $1M in the Bay Area, is 1/5, here.
The current gold rush will probably reach you. My wife just got an offer,
through her realtor, for a townhouse she is selling in Newark, a month before
On 5/8/2014 1:22 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Try to find a justification for dedicating your life to the pursuit of
enlightenment is life is *not* suffering. :-)
It's not all about you, Barry.
The Buddha's First Noble Truth is the truth of suffering. At first this
seems to be something anyone
On 5/8/2014 1:23 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Show me the people who in Fairfield and esp. at MUM who are living
perfection in every field of life
Let me rephrase what I wrote: compared to the average person living in
downtown Peking and */practicing /**/chi gung/* /all day/, people living
On 5/8/2014 1:26 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
the Domes, the place where they pay some folks minimum wage to go
round and poke folks who are falling asleep with a stick so's they can
be awake and do that utterly natural technique?
It's one thing to take a nap in the dome, but it's another
There certainly seems to be something of us, existing beyond the body, and
whatever that is, it doesn't care a whole lot about who we are, this time, or
any other time, around. As important as we seem to ourselves, now, we are
clearly disposable, in the service of that which is not. It is our
On 5/8/2014 3:26 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
The subject of reincarnation I find intriguing because, from a
spiritual point of view, exactly what does reincarnation mean?
Maybe reincarnation means the soul or spirit of a person at death,
taking on the body of another, and being
Thanks for the tips, jr. Funny story - my wife and I drove up to the SNB, sat
down to eat, and just then I got a call on my cell, from someone noticing water
gushing out of the side of my trailer - had to leave immediately -- turned out
to be a valve, set incorrectly, for filling my water tank.
In case anybody was confused, I was not suggesting that Reincarnation is for
the ignorant was the only way he said it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
I have heard he said it many different ways.
(snip)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...
Welcome back Dr.D Very foulmouthed Buddhists have been flooding this place
for too long :-) If anyone lurker wonders what happens when someone foolishly
starts these practices all they have to do is read the posts of MJ and the
Turq. Your sanity was missed :-)
---In
Hey, Nabs - Hopefully all the beliefs tossed around will be of some practical
benefit, to those doing the tossing.:-).
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Welcome back Dr.D Very foulmouthed Buddhists have been flooding this place
for too long :-) If anyone
With many eyes on Venezuela, due to the constant vilification of now deceased
Hugo Chavez by the corporate media, what often gets lost is the social and
economic revolution in Ecuador. President Rafael Correa was elected once again
in Ecuador on February 17, 2013 with a stunning majority of
The murder rate fell by 6.5 percentage points in 2013, a security institute
sponsored by the U.N. and part of Honduras' national university said in its
annual report.
Despite not having large groups of Yogic Flyers like in Oaxaca and Ecuador,
the postive trend is there from the infuence on
Makes sense - the process is not uniquely human, just that we can apprehend it,
and become aware of it, during our time as humans. So there must come a time
when it is no longer *necessary* to continue to come back here, or anywhere
else, though quite possibly a choice remains, even then, to
I think by ignorant he meant not enlightened, not off the wheel. One of his
better bons mots.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Makes sense - the process is not uniquely human, just that we can apprehend
it, and become aware of it, during our time as
Welcome Back!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
'doctor dumbass' has expired (frowny face) ...and been reborn (hallelujah!) --
I am living in a mobile home park, in Chico, sussing out the town, for a
possible move -- hence my new nom de plume,
This is worse than Sterling's version. And, we thought the dictator was a
friend of Rodman's. What happened?
http://theweek.com/article/index/261229/speedreads-north-korea-launches-vicious-racist-attack-on-obama
The Prescott Schools are in Venezuela as well, they with others are going to
design a golden future for Venezuela!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=589348271149861set=a.589348207816534.1073741833.110195912398435type=1theater
is that so?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had
basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher
'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?'
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also Citizen Sidha groups program start very recently near Moscow with over 70!
Invincible Ukraine http://www.invincible-ukraine.org/
Invincible Ukraine http://www.invincible-ukraine.org/ Creating Coherence and
Harmony in the Collective Consciousness of Ukraine for Peace and Unity in the
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Thanks for your comments. One of the things that amuses me in this discussion
is that two of the participants so far who are on record as having no need to
believe in a God are also on record as having had enlightenment
The Navy quickly identified the breach and tracked down the alleged culprits
through their online activity, revealing an extensive computer hacking scheme
committed across the country and even abroad,” U.S. Attorney Danny C. Williams,
who filed the information, said Monday.
'Sailor on US
Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai Jai
Jai Maharishi!
Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
Some good quips by you, lately -- I like quips!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Welcome Back!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
'doctor dumbass' has expired (frowny face) ...and been reborn (hallelujah!) --
I am living
Vermont will be first state in nation to require GMO labeling - VTDigger
http://vtdigger.org/2014/04/23/vermont-will-first-state-nation-require-gmo-labeling/
http://vtdigger.org/2014/04/23/vermont-will-first-state-nation-require-gmo-labeling/
Vermont will be first state in nation to
Yeah, I agree with the bit about spiritual experiences being something that a
person gets used to, no matter how flashy they may be, initially. Humans are
great at assimilating any kind of experience. I find too, that whenever I tried
to hold on to any spiritual experience, it went away. Once
This stuff is confusing - I meant that someone who is ignorant [of his basic
nature] will continue, by necessity, to reincarnate, after which the ignorance
is dispelled, incarnation may possibly continue to be an option. Is that what
you meant??
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
Curtis, I may be wrong and I may be presumptuous in saying so but my sense, in
reading your recent posts, is that in the last year - maybe through the
And guess where he's going tomorrow! Walmart! (The one in Mountain
View). weird
Must be shopping for Mother's Day.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Some good quips by you, lately -- I like quips!
I know, right?! Steve seems like a new man to me lately. Keep it up Steve and
welcome back cheesie. I'm just a little hurt you didn't use the handle Kraft
Dinner.
Yes, the first part. I doubt he had coming back by choice post-ignorance in
mind, though. Or at least it wasn't implied by that quip.
Welcome back, by the way.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
This stuff is confusing - I meant that someone who is
Hey, Anne, some pizza ad used to claim it was *the cheesiest* - used to love
Velveeta, because it could be 95 out and the cheese wouldn't melt, remaining
soft and spongy - also stayed fresh forever, which was another advantage, in
the heat. Say, cheese!
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and you are ignoring the violence inthe Ukraine, the fact that Jews now have to
register and all that???
On Fri, 5/9/14, sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] calm the situation in Ukraine-you can help!
To:
There's no distinction. I don't believe in it in this context is just the
same as saying I don't believe in the death penalty even as people are
sentenced to death.
And it's just the same as the Buddhist monks protesting reincarnation in the
cartoon.
L
---In
Well, since obviously perfection in every field for everyone on earth hasn't
happened, there's no-one in perfect health living in Fairfield, or anywhere
else.
By this definition, perfect health is lightyears beyond being in Unity
Consciousness, able to float around the domes instead of hop.
Trickle down economics:
During this visit, rich folks in Palo Alto and Woodside eat dinner with the
Prez, sharing their concerns, aka influence, and give Obama (a rich guy),
hundreds of millions, and he turns around, and spends maybe three hundred of
that, at Walmart, and takes a few
Jews do NOT have to register in the Ukraine. I already told you that. Why are
you repeating it?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
and you are ignoring the violence inthe Ukraine, the fact that Jews now have
to register and all that???
Mikey, the Jews having to register was not correct. That was pointed out to
you over a week ago. Come on now son, let's stay on track. Shall we?
(at this point our protagonist paces the stage, experiencing some cognitive
dissonance that one of his pet premises has been shot down)
A
Agreed, his bons-mottlement did not precisely cover such an eventuality.
Thanks, I am happy to not be here again!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
Yes, the first part. I doubt he had coming back by choice post-ignorance in
mind, though. Or at least it wasn't
...after his seed fails to bear fruit, on the barren ground of FFL, a plan
begins to hatch in his fevered mind -- It comes to him after he shuts down the
PC and leaves the house for some fresh air, taking the '83 Olds out for a spin,
maybe a slug of hooch, maybe not...
As he cruises down
You have to admire Obama for his stamina to keep going after his international
trip to Japan and the Philippines. He practically lives on Air Force One.
Fabulous lecture tonite. Yes there is quite a significant difference between
non-meditators, meditators, and advanced Patanjali meditators in brain EEG
global coherence; and then listening to Sanskrit chanted slowly as Maharishi
prescribed, the recitation reverberations in the subtle system
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