Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
it also appears Barry has taken his self appointed retraining mission to new heights. but the interesting tell, is that the good doctor never seems to recognize that he could benefit immensely from the same medicine he constantly prescribes to all others. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 09-Jan-15 00:15:05 UTC

2015-01-08 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 01/03/15 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 01/10/15 00:00:00 394 messages as of (UTC) 01/08/15 23:04:04 69 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 44 Bhairitu noozguru 35 salyavin808 30 aryavazhi 27 Michael Jackson mjackson74 23

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here in this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Feste, what you say makes perfect sense to any sort of mature individual. We all recognize that free speech is an inviolable part of democratic societies. It is also a privilege really. But if some use that right to endlessly insult others in the most crude fashion, then because it is,

[FairfieldLife] Efficiency in Action

2015-01-08 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Indian worker 'takes 24-year sickie' http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30722515 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30722515 Indian worker 'takes 24-year sickie' http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30722515 The Indian government sacks a civil servant who it says went on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Feste, what you say makes perfect sense to any sort of mature individual. We all recognize that free speech is an inviolable part of democratic societies. It is also a privilege really. But if some use that right to

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, You should read the original writings of Plato and Aristotle regarding logic, metaphysics and Being. You might be able to understand directly from them based on the sound of the words they're trying to convey regarding this subject. Nonetheless, even if logic and reasoning are

[FairfieldLife] Good article -- The Blame for the Charlie Hebdo Murders

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's refreshing to read someone who actually gets it, as opposed to some of the They brought it on themselves because they attacked genuflect religion nonsense we've been hearing from some quarters. The Blame for the Charlie Hebdo Murders - The New Yorker |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | |

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Feste, what you say makes perfect sense to any sort of mature individual. We all recognize that free speech is an inviolable part of democratic societies.  It is also a privilege really. But

[FairfieldLife] Supermensch: The Legend of Shep Gordon

2015-01-08 Thread Duveyoung
If ya want to see how a saint can sin all his life and still be rose scented, then this is your film. I shudder to think what the TMO might have done if this guy'd met Maharishi. Will not let my imagination go there, thank you very much. But yeah, really, Shep Gordon is about as Gumpy as a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Now the Catholics weigh in: The empire strikes back! After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter

[FairfieldLife] From my best friend, who is in Paris right now...

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The whole country is in complete solidarity and mourning. We were on the bus at noon, when the national minute of silence was planned, and the bus driver stopped the bus, got up and told the passengers we were stopping for a minute to observe the silence. Nobody complained and you could have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you for the recommendation about The Imitation Game. It was a wonderful movie, with truly great performances from both Benedict Cumberbatch and Keira Knightly. The Imitation Game Trailer (International Trailer) - IMDb |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | The Imitation Game Trailer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
One makes interesting friends as a TM teacher. Living back in my small hometown in the 1980s one of them was the local church pastor who was also into computers. His son once visiting with a high school friend spotted my picture of SBS and said his dad would not approve. Little did he know

Re: [FairfieldLife] From my best friend, who is in Paris right now...

2015-01-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
We'll just see how long they like the increased surveillance and searches. Europeans have always laughed about how silly the US is with the TSA and DHS bullshit (even at sport events). On 01/08/2015 01:40 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The whole country is in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan if the TMO learned that someone in Hollywood had bought the film rights of Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay and was about to turn it into a major film. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Comments on the Paris tragedy from someone in a position to comment

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Religion is a “medieval form of unreason”: Salman Rushdie responds to Paris attacks |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Religion is a “medieval form of unreason”: Salman Rushdi...In a statement, the author defended satire and called for fearless disrespect of all religions | | | | View on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Chilling indeed, salyavin, that people would say, and obviously think, that once their religion has been insulted, they are no longer responsible for their actions! It's these kinds of thoughts and words and actions that ALMOST make me subscribe to mandatory drug intervention for certain

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Brilliant idea. Ben Kingsley could definitely nail it as the lead role! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan if the TMO learned that someone in Hollywood had bought the film rights of Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay

[FairfieldLife] Warning. Offensive material within.

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
This videos are disgusting and should be banned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzWV0i5l-0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzWV0i5l-0A To take the image of the world's leading expert in consciousness and tireless campaigner for world peace and suggest that he didn't know as much as

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808wrote: BTW, you might want to listen to at least the first fewminutes of Rick's interview with Tom Campbell.  Campbell isa scientist, a physicistt. 266. Tom

[FairfieldLife] The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for them... Charlie Hebdo has had more legal run-ins with Christians than

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread aryavazhi
Bingo. If you have a somewhat more philosophical take on this, 1.) first you a grouped with the religious crowd 2.) then, next comes the hammer of the epistemolgical argument, which again reduces religion to it's stone age origin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and in all likelihood will continue to be) equal opportunity blasphemers. Good for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread aryavazhi
Some of the cartoons are really funny, I'd have to say, to bad I don't speak french. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A little background, for those who might be tempted to believe that French mag Charlie Hebdo only made fun of Muslims. Not true...they were (and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread aryavazhi
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Brilliant idea. Ben Kingsley could definitely nail it as the lead role! eeh, you mean nail as in nailing? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try to imagine the shitstorm that would hit the fan

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/ From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 5:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh God I can't wait From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme   Try to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/ Help me out here, Michael. I haven't looked at an issue of USA Today in years. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread feste37
I see no reason to alter what I wrote. Insults from you are to be expected. After all, that’s what you do, isn’t it? Two years ago, the French government condemned the cartoons as needlessly provocative. See French magazine sparks another controversy over Mohammed cartoons

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread feste37
It is easy to talk grandly on a Yahoo group about the “responsibilities of thinking people,” but I stick to my original point: deliberate provocation of Muslims by means of grotesque cartoons serves the interests of no one. They drive the Muslims crazy and for what purpose? I used to be an

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 01/08/2015 09:29 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote: BTW, you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You're starting to scare me, feste, so I'm going to curtail any further discussions of this with you. It's like you have this blind spot about religion, deceiving you into thinking that if something calls itself a religion it has to be respected, no matter how aberrant its beliefs may be. If

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
For my part, I just don't think 3/4 of the world's population should be held hostage by the beliefs of others. If someone was stupid enough to insult the Prophet in Saudi Arabia, or another majority Muslim country, they would surely pay for it. On the other hand, if one insults the Prophet in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right To Blaspheme

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nope, no Onion deal - its USA Today all the way. That very first sentence caught my eye. Says a lot on a few words - dunno how widespread that belief is, but it does not bode well for harmony in the world, unless of course the TMO is willing to send a bunch of purusha governors into all the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com I see noreason to alter what I wrote. Insults from you are to be expected. After all,that’s what you do, isn’t it? Two years ago, the French government condemnedthe cartoons as needlessly provocative. See French magazine sparks another controversy over

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote: BTW, you *might* want to listen to at least the first few minutes of Rick's interview with Tom Campbell. Campbell *is* a scientist,

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 01/08/2015 12:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote: BTW, you *might* want to listen to at least the first few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread feste37
If you deliberately go around provoking people, you shouldn’t be surprised if eventually they lash out at you. If I am a rich man and I decide to walk in a low-income, high-crime area with hundred-dollar bills attached to my clothing, I will likely get robbed. The thieves are wrong to commit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com If you deliberately go around provoking people, youshouldn’t be surprised if eventually they lash out at you. Yes, you actually should. Especially when what you so euphemistically call lashing out involves Kalashnikovs and killing 12 people *for making

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread feste37
It would be better if you would read the post you are responding to before you respond to it. Nowhere did I say that it is permissible to kill a human being for making a drawing of another human being. The phrase you use is ridiculous because it reduces the complexity of the issue to the way a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Aww come on, he's not saying that Barry - he's just saying that publishing cartoons that deliberately offend Islam is like waving the red cape in front of a bull - its just not a good idea.   But I still think that the Muslims who live in non-Muslim countries need to just get over it. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread ultrarishi
Ah, the bravery of the liberals who think they have a perfect right to insult anyone's cherished beliefs just because they want to. I'm sorry, but you and the Right Wing do not get to own this argument. I hear this shit from my libertarian and tea bagger friends all the time, that somehow,

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  Barry, Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be done through logic and metaphysics.  I have tried to do this in the past by using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Now the Catholics weigh in: After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughterThe murdered Charlie Hebdo editor Stephane Charbonnier didn’t

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here in this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread feste37
Thanks, MJ! Turquoise B likes to distort other people's arguments. He does it all the time. He also seems to be developing a worrying habit of referring to those who disagree with him as insane. Actually, I can see both sides of the argument, but I do not think that the right to free expression

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be done through logic and metaphysics.  I have tried to do this in the past by using the Kalam Cosmological

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 01/08/2015 11:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Now I'll let you get back to Top Gear. I hate Top Gear, I'm reading a book on cosmology I got for Crimbo, might watch a bit of Star Trek later though. Figured so and exactly why I mentioned that show. :-D Happy reading about science

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  Now the Catholics weigh in: After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread ultrarishi
The thing that bothered me about the movie I reviewed here the other day, I Origins is they were a bit naive about the difference between religion and spirituality. The Pitt character is actually arguing spirituality not religion. But the writer even had one Indian character ask him if he is

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 01/08/2015 09:29 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   Aww come on, he's not saying that Barry - he's just saying that publishing cartoons that deliberately offend Islam is like waving the red cape in front of a bull - its just not a good idea. And I

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World....

2015-01-08 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here in this forum. You failed to participate. Why? Now, you're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]
They do NOT have far to drive maybe will experience a roll over all to the good incarnate better next time to having learned to control ANGER!! ones, anger enjoy laughter as well! HA! HA! HA! It does serve to make a point non believers can LAUGH ! The profit all praise to his name

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Religious Mind

2015-01-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com Ah, the bravery of theliberals who think they have a perfect right to insult anyone's cherishedbeliefs just because they want to. I'm sorry, but you and the Right Wing do not get to own this argument.  I hear this shit from my libertarian and tea