Re: [FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The New Yorker this week has a long article about what to expect from a Trump 
presidency. It's isn't pretty. Global recession within eighteen months, among 
other things. 

It's impossible to believe that all the 35-40 million or more people who plan 
to vote for Trump are unaware of all his faults, but I think what's operating 
is the "He may be a bastard but he's OUR bastard" mentality. Which is why Trump 
can say pretty much anything he likes and get away with it. I think we will see 
this in the debates. The chances of Hillary making a blunder are very slight, 
since she is very smart and experienced, but it is likely that Trump will make 
many—and they won't make any difference at all. They won't even be perceived as 
blunders. 

It seems to me that America is too collectively stupid to repudiate Trump, and 
the implications of that are very disturbing. How did it ever come to this? 
 

 I basically don't watch TV and therefore Trump pre-Presidential election was a 
virtual unknown to me. He holds no status and I have never seen The Apprentice 
or followed what he has done in his life until now. Maybe others are so 
familiar with him as this business dude, beauty pageant supporter and reality 
TV star that they can't get past that and look at what he really is. I think 
that is a big part of it - they are starstruck. To me he is everything Ollie so 
cleverly describes him as. How anyone can ignore the reality of his Emperor 
with no clothes shtick is beyond me and always will be, I fear.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I HOPE most have woken up.  But I keep hearing some of the same verbiage I did 
when Dubya ran, ie “Don’t worry if he’s not too bright, he’ll surround himself 
with much smarter people and we’ll be ok.”  And we all know how that worked 
out.   

 Some people refuse to wake up.
 
 Sal 
 

 







 
 On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

 

Might as well relax now, since Trump is nowhere near winning this thing. He 
also has no power, except to set greens fees on his golf courses, and send 
minions out for more fast food. Once you get the hang of it, he is an easy one 
to ignore. His agenda has nothing to do with me or anything I care about. He is 
selfish, stupid and mean. Not a very evolved human being, a relic from the dark 
ages, looking to the past for support and fearful of the future. The only 
direction Trump leads anyone including himself, is straight down. Glad he won't 
be leading anything, except the contest for most ludicrous and inappropriate 
presidential candidate, ever. 

Maybe if GW had not yet served and run the country into the ground for many of 
the same reasons Trump would; arrogance, ignorance, emotional immaturity, using 
the office to settle personal scores, surrounding himself with those who play 
him like a hand puppet, the American voters would be taken in by this empty 
braggart. But since then, most woke up to the fact that these are demagogues 
out for their own childish ends, with nothing to offer except misery and 
confusion. Bush paints dogs now, and Trump watches TV endlessly. Perfect. Keep 
at it.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different recently. 
Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, when this happened in 
the past, there was a brief period where Trump's poll average topped Clinton's 
for just a few days. See the graph underneath the poll numbers on the RCP site. 
This time around, it didn't happen, and she continues now to pull away from 
Trump, again. This has never been a close race, and is now clearly widening in 
favor of Hillary, led ironically by the GOP establishment, against Trump. 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 

 I completely agree with you and have felt so for a while. The press needs this 
to look close. It is not and come election day we will all be vindicated and 
poor Feste and all the others (me included) who live in a kind of fear and 
anxiety about this thing will finally be able to relax.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
I found this article somewhat interesting, although I don't understand all the 
nuances.  But should the recession hit, there is not much else the Federal 
Reserve can do to stimulate recovery.   

 Ray Dalio: Are We at the End of Long-Term Debt Cycle? - Market Realist 
http://marketrealist.com/2016/09/ray-dalio-end-long-term-debt-cycle/ 
 
 http://marketrealist.com/2016/09/ray-dalio-end-long-term-debt-cycle/ 
 
 Ray Dalio: Are We at the End of Long-Term Debt Cycle? - ... 
http://marketrealist.com/2016/09/ray-dalio-end-long-term-debt-cycle/ Ray Dalio 
spoke about the long-term debt cycle at the Delivering Alpha conference on 
September 13. He said, “There's only so much you can squeeze out of the deb...
 
 
 
 View on marketrealist.com 
http://marketrealist.com/2016/09/ray-dalio-end-long-term-debt-cycle/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I would bet on a global recession regardless of who is in office.  Band-aids 
could only keep the fraudulent global banking system running for so long.  Who 
is in office could make the landing a little softer but I don't see the current 
two goons capable of it.
 
 On 09/22/2016 10:59 AM, feste37 wrote:
 
   The New Yorker this week has a long article about what to expect from a 
Trump presidency. It's isn't pretty. Global recession within eighteen months, 
among other things. 
 
 It's impossible to believe that all the 35-40 million or more people who plan 
to vote for Trump are unaware of all his faults, but I think what's operating 
is the "He may be a bastard but he's OUR bastard" mentality. Which is why Trump 
can say pretty much anything he likes and get away with it. I think we will see 
this in the debates. The chances of Hillary making a blunder are very slight, 
since she is very smart and experienced, but it is likely that Trump will make 
many—and they won't make any difference at all. They won't even be perceived as 
blunders. 
 
 It seems to me that America is too collectively stupid to repudiate Trump, and 
the implications of that are very disturbing. How did it ever come to this? 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... wrote :
 
 I HOPE most have woken up.  But I keep hearing some of the same verbiage I did 
when Dubya ran, ie “Don’t worry if he’s not too bright, he’ll surround himself 
with much smarter people and we’ll be ok.”  And we all know how that worked 
out.   

 Some people refuse to wake up.
 
 Sal 
 

 


 

 
 

 
 On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
 
 
 Might as well relax now, since Trump is nowhere near winning this thing. He 
also has no power, except to set greens fees on his golf courses, and send 
minions out for more fast food. Once you get the hang of it, he is an easy one 
to ignore. His agenda has nothing to do with me or anything I care about. He is 
selfish, stupid and mean. Not a very evolved human being, a relic from the dark 
ages, looking to the past for support and fearful of the future. The only 
direction Trump leads anyone including himself, is straight down. Glad he won't 
be leading anything, except the contest for most ludicrous and inappropriate 
presidential candidate, ever. 
 
 Maybe if GW had not yet served and run the country into the ground for many of 
the same reasons Trump would; arrogance, ignorance, emotional immaturity, using 
the office to settle personal scores, surrounding himself with those who play 
him like a hand puppet, the American voters would be taken in by this empty 
braggart. But since then, most woke up to the fact that these are demagogues 
out for their own childish ends, with nothing to offer except misery and 
confusion. Bush paints dogs now, and Trump watches TV endlessly. Perfect. Keep 
at it.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different recently. 
Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, when this happened in 
the past, there was a brief period where Trump's poll average topped Clinton's 
for just a few days. See the graph underneath the poll numbers on the RCP site. 
This time around, it didn't happen, and she continues now to pull away from 
Trump, again. This has never been a close race, and is now clearly widening in 
favor of Hillary, led ironically by the GOP establishment, against Trump. 
 
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 
Global recession?  We'll be lucky if he doesn't get us all blown up.

It came to this when amongst other things, Reagan and Dubya made stupidly into 
a virtue and ignorance into a badge of honor, something to flaunt, while the 
idiots who bought it could be counted on to repeatedly vote against their own 
self-interest.  It's a sick and sad cycle.

Sal 


> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:59 PM, feste37  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> The New Yorker this week has a long article about what to expect from a Trump 
> presidency. It's isn't pretty. Global recession within eighteen months, among 
> other things. 
> 
> It's impossible to believe that all the 35-40 million or more people who plan 
> to vote for Trump are unaware of all his faults, but I think what's operating 
> is the "He may be a bastard but he's OUR bastard" mentality. Which is why 
> Trump can say pretty much anything he likes and get away with it. I think we 
> will see this in the debates. The chances of Hillary making a blunder are 
> very slight, since she is very smart and experienced, but it is likely that 
> Trump will make many—and they won't make any difference at all. They won't 
> even be perceived as blunders. 
> 
> It seems to me that America is too collectively stupid to repudiate Trump, 
> and the implications of that are very disturbing. How did it ever come to 
> this? 
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> I HOPE most have woken up.  But I keep hearing some of the same verbiage I 
> did when Dubya ran, ie “Don’t worry if he’s not too bright, he’ll surround 
> himself with much smarter people and we’ll be ok.”  And we all know how that 
> worked out.  
> 
> Some people refuse to wake up.
> 
> Sal 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Might as well relax now, since Trump is nowhere near winning this thing. He 
> also has no power, except to set greens fees on his golf courses, and send 
> minions out for more fast food. Once you get the hang of it, he is an easy 
> one to ignore. His agenda has nothing to do with me or anything I care about. 
> He is selfish, stupid and mean. Not a very evolved human being, a relic from 
> the dark ages, looking to the past for support and fearful of the future. The 
> only direction Trump leads anyone including himself, is straight down. Glad 
> he won't be leading anything, except the contest for most ludicrous and 
> inappropriate presidential candidate, ever. 
> 
> Maybe if GW had not yet served and run the country into the ground for many 
> of the same reasons Trump would; arrogance, ignorance, emotional immaturity, 
> using the office to settle personal scores, surrounding himself with those 
> who play him like a hand puppet, the American voters would be taken in by 
> this empty braggart. But since then, most woke up to the fact that these are 
> demagogues out for their own childish ends, with nothing to offer except 
> misery and confusion. Bush paints dogs now, and Trump watches TV endlessly. 
> Perfect. Keep at it.
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different 
> recently. Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, when this 
> happened in the past, there was a brief period where Trump's poll average 
> topped Clinton's for just a few days. See the graph underneath the poll 
> numbers on the RCP site. This time around, it didn't happen, and she 
> continues now to pull away from Trump, again. This has never been a close 
> race, and is now clearly widening in favor of Hillary, led ironically by the 
> GOP establishment, against Trump. 
> 
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
> 
> 
> I completely agree with you and have felt so for a while. The press needs 
> this to look close. It is not and come election day we will all be vindicated 
> and poor Feste and all the others (me included) who live in a kind of fear 
> and anxiety about this thing will finally be able to relax.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
I would bet on a global recession regardless of who is in office.  
Band-aids could only keep the fraudulent global banking system running 
for so long.  Who is in office could make the landing a little softer 
but I don't see the current two goons capable of it.


On 09/22/2016 10:59 AM, feste37 wrote:


The New Yorker this week has a long article about what to expect from 
a Trump presidency. It's isn't pretty. Global recession within 
eighteen months, among other things.


It's impossible to believe that all the 35-40 million or more people 
who plan to vote for Trump are unaware of all his faults, but I think 
what's operating is the "He may be a bastard but he's OUR bastard" 
mentality. Which is why Trump can say pretty much anything he likes 
and get away with it. I think we will see this in the debates. The 
chances of Hillary making a blunder are very slight, since she is very 
smart and experienced, but it is likely that Trump will make many—and 
they won't make any difference at all. They won't even be perceived as 
blunders.


It seems to me that America is too collectively stupid to repudiate 
Trump, and the implications of that are very disturbing. How did it 
ever come to this?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I HOPE most have woken up.  But I keep hearing some of the same 
verbiage I did when Dubya ran, ie “Don’t worry if he’s not too bright, 
he’ll surround himself with much smarter people and we’ll be ok.”  And 
we all know how that worked out.


Some people refuse to wake up.

Sal






On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, olliesedwuz@...  
[FairfieldLife] > wrote:




Might as well relax now, since Trump is nowhere near winning this 
thing. He also has no power, except to set greens fees on his golf 
courses, and send minions out for more fast food. Once you get the 
hang of it, he is an easy one to ignore. His agenda has nothing to do 
with me or anything I care about. He is selfish, stupid and mean. Not 
a very evolved human being, a relic from the dark ages, looking to the 
past for support and fearful of the future. The only direction Trump 
leads anyone including himself, is straight down. Glad he won't be 
leading anything, except the contest for most ludicrous and 
inappropriate presidential candidate, ever.


Maybe if GW had not yet served and run the country into the ground for 
many of the same reasons Trump would; arrogance, ignorance, emotional 
immaturity, using the office to settle personal scores, surrounding 
himself with those who play him like a hand puppet, the American 
voters would be taken in by this empty braggart. But since then, most 
woke up to the fact that these are demagogues out for their own 
childish ends, with nothing to offer except misery and confusion. Bush 
paints dogs now, and Trump watches TV endlessly. Perfect. Keep at it.


---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com 
,  wrote :





---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com 
,  wrote :


I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different 
recently. Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, 
when this happened in the past, there was a brief period where Trump's 
poll average topped Clinton's for just a few days. See the graph 
underneath the poll numbers on the RCP site. This time around, it 
didn't happen, and she continues now to pull away from Trump, again. 
This has never been a close race, and is now clearly widening in favor 
of Hillary, led ironically by the GOP establishment, against Trump.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html


I completely agree with you and have felt so for a while. The press 
needs this to look close. It is not and come election day we will all 
be vindicated and poor Feste and all the others (me included) who live 
in a kind of fear and anxiety about this thing will finally be able to 
relax.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread feste37 
The New Yorker this week has a long article about what to expect from a Trump 
presidency. It's isn't pretty. Global recession within eighteen months, among 
other things. 

It's impossible to believe that all the 35-40 million or more people who plan 
to vote for Trump are unaware of all his faults, but I think what's operating 
is the "He may be a bastard but he's OUR bastard" mentality. Which is why Trump 
can say pretty much anything he likes and get away with it. I think we will see 
this in the debates. The chances of Hillary making a blunder are very slight, 
since she is very smart and experienced, but it is likely that Trump will make 
many—and they won't make any difference at all. They won't even be perceived as 
blunders. 

It seems to me that America is too collectively stupid to repudiate Trump, and 
the implications of that are very disturbing. How did it ever come to this? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I HOPE most have woken up.  But I keep hearing some of the same verbiage I did 
when Dubya ran, ie “Don’t worry if he’s not too bright, he’ll surround himself 
with much smarter people and we’ll be ok.”  And we all know how that worked 
out.   

 Some people refuse to wake up.
 
 Sal 
 

 







 
 On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

 

Might as well relax now, since Trump is nowhere near winning this thing. He 
also has no power, except to set greens fees on his golf courses, and send 
minions out for more fast food. Once you get the hang of it, he is an easy one 
to ignore. His agenda has nothing to do with me or anything I care about. He is 
selfish, stupid and mean. Not a very evolved human being, a relic from the dark 
ages, looking to the past for support and fearful of the future. The only 
direction Trump leads anyone including himself, is straight down. Glad he won't 
be leading anything, except the contest for most ludicrous and inappropriate 
presidential candidate, ever. 

Maybe if GW had not yet served and run the country into the ground for many of 
the same reasons Trump would; arrogance, ignorance, emotional immaturity, using 
the office to settle personal scores, surrounding himself with those who play 
him like a hand puppet, the American voters would be taken in by this empty 
braggart. But since then, most woke up to the fact that these are demagogues 
out for their own childish ends, with nothing to offer except misery and 
confusion. Bush paints dogs now, and Trump watches TV endlessly. Perfect. Keep 
at it.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different recently. 
Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, when this happened in 
the past, there was a brief period where Trump's poll average topped Clinton's 
for just a few days. See the graph underneath the poll numbers on the RCP site. 
This time around, it didn't happen, and she continues now to pull away from 
Trump, again. This has never been a close race, and is now clearly widening in 
favor of Hillary, led ironically by the GOP establishment, against Trump. 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 

 I completely agree with you and have felt so for a while. The press needs this 
to look close. It is not and come election day we will all be vindicated and 
poor Feste and all the others (me included) who live in a kind of fear and 
anxiety about this thing will finally be able to relax.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 
I HOPE most have woken up.  But I keep hearing some of the same verbiage I did 
when Dubya ran, ie “Don’t worry if he’s not too bright, he’ll surround himself 
with much smarter people and we’ll be ok.”  And we all know how that worked 
out.  

Some people refuse to wake up.

Sal 






On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:



Might as well relax now, since Trump is nowhere near winning this thing. He 
also has no power, except to set greens fees on his golf courses, and send 
minions out for more fast food. Once you get the hang of it, he is an easy one 
to ignore. His agenda has nothing to do with me or anything I care about. He is 
selfish, stupid and mean. Not a very evolved human being, a relic from the dark 
ages, looking to the past for support and fearful of the future. The only 
direction Trump leads anyone including himself, is straight down. Glad he won't 
be leading anything, except the contest for most ludicrous and inappropriate 
presidential candidate, ever. 

Maybe if GW had not yet served and run the country into the ground for many of 
the same reasons Trump would; arrogance, ignorance, emotional immaturity, using 
the office to settle personal scores, surrounding himself with those who play 
him like a hand puppet, the American voters would be taken in by this empty 
braggart. But since then, most woke up to the fact that these are demagogues 
out for their own childish ends, with nothing to offer except misery and 
confusion. Bush paints dogs now, and Trump watches TV endlessly. Perfect. Keep 
at it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
 wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
 wrote :

I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different recently. 
Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, when this happened in 
the past, there was a brief period where Trump's poll average topped Clinton's 
for just a few days. See the graph underneath the poll numbers on the RCP site. 
This time around, it didn't happen, and she continues now to pull away from 
Trump, again. This has never been a close race, and is now clearly widening in 
favor of Hillary, led ironically by the GOP establishment, against Trump. 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 


I completely agree with you and have felt so for a while. The press needs this 
to look close. It is not and come election day we will all be vindicated and 
poor Feste and all the others (me included) who live in a kind of fear and 
anxiety about this thing will finally be able to relax.

[FairfieldLife] Another indicator that Trump is losing momentum

2016-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
I watch these poll averages closely, and noticed something different recently. 
Until this last closing period between Clinton and Trump, when this happened in 
the past, there was a brief period where Trump's poll average topped Clinton's 
for just a few days. See the graph underneath the poll numbers on the RCP site. 
This time around, it didn't happen, and she continues now to pull away from 
Trump, again. This has never been a close race, and is now clearly widening in 
favor of Hillary, led ironically by the GOP establishment, against Trump. 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html