[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...] > > You said, "I don't base things on all the other things the TMO most > probably lied about (such as?), but on my own interaction with the > folks involved or observations of their other actions." > > Do you think that's a more 'high minded' view or what? If you can't > observe the people who make that decisions on what goes into the > products, then what's left is the reputation and honesty of the > organization and people who sell it. If they are dishonest about some > things, how can you know that they are not dishonest about other > things? There is no way to know... > > JohnY > What specifically did they lie about, and how does this tie in with desire to see one's culture vindicated? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of > > > > it as > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their costs > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart > > attempts > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them down > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. Many > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is almost > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the USA > > over > > > > the past 15 years. > > > > > > > > Negotiating with the TMO over prices? Can you imagine being a fly on > > > > the wall over those negotiations? > > > > > > > > > > > > Wal-Mart: "TMO, now that we're carrying your MAPI products in all of > > > > our stores throughout the world, your products are accessible to over > > > > 2 billion people. We'd like you to see what you can do to bring down > > > > the costs of your supplies...economies of scale and all that." > > > > > > > > TMO: "Sorry, Wal-Mart, we have a strict 1,500% mark-up on our MAPI > > > > products. For example, on our 8 oz. Vata Churna product, it costs us > > > > about 34 cents for the spices we put into it. Add on another 20 > > cents > > > > per unit for packaging, labor and overhead and you're talking a > > > > whopping 54 cents cost to us for each one. Now we sell each unit for > > > > $15.95. We're selling each unit to Wal-Mar for $10.00...tell us how > > > > we're supposed to make money if we bring our cost to you down!" > > > > > > > > > > Of course, MAPI products are all supposedly made in the traditional > > way, which probably > > > doesn't mean much, cost-wise, since they come from India, but it > > DOES mean that there is > > > a supply constraint: you can't just plant more crops willy-nilly and > > increase production if > > > said crops have to be grown and/or harvested in a certain way. > > > > > > > Based on all the other TMO things that are most probably lied about, > > do you really think that MAPI 'traditional' production practices > > aren't lied about too? > > I don't base things on all the other things the TMO most probably lied about (such as?), > but on my own interaction with the folks involved or observations of their other actions. > Sharma, Triguna, MMY, etc., have a desire to see their cultural traditions validated. Cutting > corners wouldn't validate their culture. > You said, "I don't base things on all the other things the TMO most probably lied about (such as?), but on my own interaction with the folks involved or observations of their other actions." Do you think that's a more 'high minded' view or what? If you can't observe the people who make that decisions on what goes into the products, then what's left is the reputation and honesty of the organization and people who sell it. If they are dishonest about some things, how can you know that they are not dishonest about other things? There is no way to know... JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
on 5/22/06 2:23 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of > it as >> well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now > if Wal- mart >> could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. >> > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their costs > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart attempts > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them down > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. Many > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is almost > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the USA over > the past 15 years. > > Negotiating with the TMO over prices? Can you imagine being a fly on > the wall over those negotiations? > > > Wal-Mart: "TMO, now that we're carrying your MAPI products in all of > our stores throughout the world, your products are accessible to over > 2 billion people. We'd like you to see what you can do to bring down > the costs of your supplies...economies of scale and all that." > > TMO: "Sorry, Wal-Mart, we have a strict 1,500% mark-up on our MAPI > products. For example, on our 8 oz. Vata Churna product, it costs us > about 34 cents for the spices we put into it. Add on another 20 cents > per unit for packaging, labor and overhead and you're talking a > whopping 54 cents cost to us for each one. Now we sell each unit for > $15.95. We're selling each unit to Wal-Mar for $10.00...tell us how > we're supposed to make money if we bring our cost to you down!" This is the way MMY used to negotiate, for instance, with hotel prices. The hotel owner would name a price. MMY would make his offer. The hotel owner would come down a bit, then rather than coming up a bit to eventually meet the hotel owner in the middle, MMY would make a new offer lower than his first one. This tactic seemed to work. Maybe the hotel owner panicked and decided to take MMY's offer before it got any lower. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us > to > > > buy & > > > > > > more of > > > > > > > > it as > > > > > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for > many > > > of us. > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates > > > their > > > > > > costs > > > > > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, > Wal- > > > Mart > > > > > > attempts > > > > > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on > supplies > > > to them > > > > > > down > > > > > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to > > > consumers. > > > > > > Many > > > > > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this > area > > > is > > > > > > almost > > > > > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate > in > > > the > > > > > > USA over > > > > > > > > the past 15 years. > > > > > snip > > > > > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of > the > > > middle > > > > > class to exist? N. > > > > > > > > > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill from China > > > produced by > > > > underpaid or slave labor to compete with local companies is BS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Underpaid by American standards; overpaid by Chinese standards. > > > > > > "Slave labor": such a comment is an insult to the whole history > of > > > slavery, demeans it and should not be dignified by a response. > > > > > +++ You are right-my apologies- I was thinking convict labor which > was > > a beef with union people. > > How do you see it if you have a small business and find you are > > competing with someone with a non-profit front-your prices would > be a > > bit higher to be able to survive but is it fair that you get pushed > > out of business? > > > > I've heard of those incidents in American prisons where some Warden > gets the idea that the prisoners should make products and compete > with the outside market. Of course, it is entirely unfair because > both the labor and the overhead are subsidized by the government. > > No, it is not fair. > +++ On a large scale, isn't China, with their labor advantage, aided by Wall-Mart, going to put us out of business or at least make a serious dent in our economy? N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to > > buy & > > > > > more of > > > > > > > it as > > > > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many > > of us. > > > > > now > > > > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates > > their > > > > > costs > > > > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal- > > Mart > > > > > attempts > > > > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies > > to them > > > > > down > > > > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to > > consumers. > > > > > Many > > > > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area > > is > > > > > almost > > > > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in > > the > > > > > USA over > > > > > > > the past 15 years. > > > > snip > > > > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the > > middle > > > > class to exist? N. > > > > > > > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill from China > > produced by > > > underpaid or slave labor to compete with local companies is BS. > > > > > > > > > Underpaid by American standards; overpaid by Chinese standards. > > > > "Slave labor": such a comment is an insult to the whole history of > > slavery, demeans it and should not be dignified by a response. > > > +++ You are right-my apologies- I was thinking convict labor which was > a beef with union people. > How do you see it if you have a small business and find you are > competing with someone with a non-profit front-your prices would be a > bit higher to be able to survive but is it fair that you get pushed > out of business? I've heard of those incidents in American prisons where some Warden gets the idea that the prisoners should make products and compete with the outside market. Of course, it is entirely unfair because both the labor and the overhead are subsidized by the government. No, it is not fair. Someone I used to work with has had a telemarketing room for the past 10 years. Before the do-not-call list he used to be busier, of course, but before the list came into being he took advantage of a program where the local prison would bus in about 1/2 a dozen prisoners to his telemarketing room and they would work 8 hours a day and then the prison bus would come back and drive them back to prison. And he got some sort of subsidy for that. Of course, we were all amused that people were buying all this stuff from convicted felons! > I guess it's a POV and, which side of the fence you are on. N. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to > buy & > > > > more of > > > > > > it as > > > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many > of us. > > > > now > > > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates > their > > > > costs > > > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal- > Mart > > > > attempts > > > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies > to them > > > > down > > > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to > consumers. > > > > Many > > > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area > is > > > > almost > > > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in > the > > > > USA over > > > > > > the past 15 years. > > > snip > > > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the > middle > > > class to exist? N. > > > > > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill from China > produced by > > underpaid or slave labor to compete with local companies is BS. > > > > > Underpaid by American standards; overpaid by Chinese standards. > > "Slave labor": such a comment is an insult to the whole history of > slavery, demeans it and should not be dignified by a response. > +++ You are right-my apologies- I was thinking convict labor which was a beef with union people. How do you see it if you have a small business and find you are competing with someone with a non-profit front-your prices would be a bit higher to be able to survive but is it fair that you get pushed out of business? I guess it's a POV and, which side of the fence you are on. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill > > from China produced by > > underpaid or slave labor to compete with > > local companies is BS. > > You mean sorted recycled plastics? I think that > they have discovered one of the scientific holy > grails; depolymerising plastic back to lower > hydrocarbons. They may end up as the world's > chief supplier of "oil". I wonder if they will hang > on to the bulk of their scrap plastic. > > Anothe rissue is the 1.5 million people in their > prisons who are said to be used as slave labour, > producing goods whiuch must undercut everybody. > Uns. > +++ This could lead to various fnancial disasters around the world and, as one writer pointed out, the conflict with China will be in the financial arena and, we will probably lose. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to > buy & > > > > more of > > > > > > it as > > > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many > of us. > > > > now > > > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates > their > > > > costs > > > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal- > Mart > > > > attempts > > > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies > to them > > > > down > > > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to > consumers. > > > > Many > > > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area > is > > > > almost > > > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in > the > > > > USA over > > > > > > the past 15 years. > > > snip > > > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the > middle > > > class to exist? N. > > > > > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill from China > produced by > > underpaid or slave labor to compete with local companies is BS. > > > > > Underpaid by American standards; overpaid by Chinese standards. > > "Slave labor": such a comment is an insult to the whole history of > slavery, demeans it and should not be dignified by a response. > Depends. Are sex workers who fear for their lives if they leave their pimps "slaves?" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & > > more of > > > > it as > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. > > now > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their > > costs > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart > > attempts > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them > > down > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. > > Many > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is > > almost > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the > > USA over > > > > the past 15 years. > snip > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the middle > class to exist? N. > To paraphrase "Demolition Man": after the Big Box Wars, every store was Wal-Mart... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & > > > more of > > > > > it as > > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. > > > now > > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their > > > costs > > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal- Mart > > > attempts > > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them > > > down > > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. > > > Many > > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is > > > almost > > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the > > > USA over > > > > > the past 15 years. > > snip > > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the middle > > class to exist? N. > > > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill from China produced by > underpaid or slave labor to compete with local companies is BS. > Underpaid by American standards; overpaid by Chinese standards. "Slave labor": such a comment is an insult to the whole history of slavery, demeans it and should not be dignified by a response. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of > > it as > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now > > if Wal- mart > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their costs > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart attempts > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them down > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. Many > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is almost > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the USA over > > the past 15 years. > > > > Negotiating with the TMO over prices? Can you imagine being a fly on > > the wall over those negotiations? > > > > > > Wal-Mart: "TMO, now that we're carrying your MAPI products in all of > > our stores throughout the world, your products are accessible to over > > 2 billion people. We'd like you to see what you can do to bring down > > the costs of your supplies...economies of scale and all that." > > > > TMO: "Sorry, Wal-Mart, we have a strict 1,500% mark-up on our MAPI > > products. For example, on our 8 oz. Vata Churna product, it costs us > > about 34 cents for the spices we put into it. Add on another 20 cents > > per unit for packaging, labor and overhead and you're talking a > > whopping 54 cents cost to us for each one. Now we sell each unit for > > $15.95. We're selling each unit to Wal-Mar for $10.00...tell us how > > we're supposed to make money if we bring our cost to you down!" > > > > Of course, MAPI products are all supposedly made in the traditional way, which probably > doesn't mean much, cost-wise, since they come from India, but it DOES mean that there is > a supply constraint: you can't just plant more crops willy-nilly and increase production if > said crops have to be grown and/or harvested in a certain way. > Based on all the other TMO things that are most probably lied about, do you really think that MAPI 'traditional' production practices aren't lied about too? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill > from China produced by > underpaid or slave labor to compete with > local companies is BS. You mean sorted recycled plastics? I think that they have discovered one of the scientific holy grails; depolymerising plastic back to lower hydrocarbons. They may end up as the world's chief supplier of "oil". I wonder if they will hang on to the bulk of their scrap plastic. Anothe rissue is the 1.5 million people in their prisons who are said to be used as slave labour, producing goods whiuch must undercut everybody. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & > > more of > > > > it as > > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. > > now > > > > if Wal- mart > > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their > > costs > > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart > > attempts > > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them > > down > > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. > > Many > > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is > > almost > > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the > > USA over > > > > the past 15 years. > snip > +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the middle > class to exist? N. > +++ Also, importing mass quantities of landfill from China produced by underpaid or slave labor to compete with local companies is BS. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & > more of > > > it as > > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. > now > > > if Wal- mart > > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their > costs > > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart > attempts > > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them > down > > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. > Many > > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is > almost > > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the > USA over > > > the past 15 years. snip +++ Does this look like Wall-Mart is denying the right of the middle class to exist? N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > [...] > > Of course, MAPI products are all supposedly made in the > > traditional way, > > > > > What's "the traditional way"? Mixing the spices clockwise instead > of counter-clockwise? Harvested by hand, at certain times of the day, etc. Very labor-instensive in other words. > > Or perhaps its how I saw TrigunaJi's teenage apprentice mix the > concoctions that I bought at his outdoor "clinic" in Dehli: lay down > a bunch of squares cut from the Times of India newspaper, take jars > of dirt (or whatever it is he put in his mixtures) and spill them > out over the newspaper squares, and then fold up the pieces of > newspaper into little packets (which I was then told to take with a > glass of water each day). I'd worry about the content of the ink in the newsprint, and whether or not he'd washed his hands. That's a consideration for MAPI-sourced herbs as well, of course... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of > > it as > > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now > > if Wal- mart > > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their costs > > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart attempts > > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them down > > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. Many > > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is almost > > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the USA over > > the past 15 years. > > > > Negotiating with the TMO over prices? Can you imagine being a fly on > > the wall over those negotiations? > > > > > > Wal-Mart: "TMO, now that we're carrying your MAPI products in all of > > our stores throughout the world, your products are accessible to over > > 2 billion people. We'd like you to see what you can do to bring down > > the costs of your supplies...economies of scale and all that." > > > > TMO: "Sorry, Wal-Mart, we have a strict 1,500% mark-up on our MAPI > > products. For example, on our 8 oz. Vata Churna product, it costs us > > about 34 cents for the spices we put into it. Add on another 20 cents > > per unit for packaging, labor and overhead and you're talking a > > whopping 54 cents cost to us for each one. Now we sell each unit for > > $15.95. We're selling each unit to Wal-Mar for $10.00...tell us how > > we're supposed to make money if we bring our cost to you down!" > > > > Of course, MAPI products are all supposedly made in the > traditional way, What's "the traditional way"? Mixing the spices clockwise instead of counter-clockwise? Or perhaps its how I saw TrigunaJi's teenage apprentice mix the concoctions that I bought at his outdoor "clinic" in Dehli: lay down a bunch of squares cut from the Times of India newspaper, take jars of dirt (or whatever it is he put in his mixtures) and spill them out over the newspaper squares, and then fold up the pieces of newspaper into little packets (which I was then told to take with a glass of water each day). > which probably > doesn't mean much, cost-wise, since they come from India, but it DOES mean that there is > a supply constraint: you can't just plant more crops willy-nilly and increase production if > said crops have to be grown and/or harvested in a certain way. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: > > > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of > it as > > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now > if Wal- mart > > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > > > > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their costs > with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart attempts > to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them down > by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. Many > economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is almost > singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the USA over > the past 15 years. > > Negotiating with the TMO over prices? Can you imagine being a fly on > the wall over those negotiations? > > > Wal-Mart: "TMO, now that we're carrying your MAPI products in all of > our stores throughout the world, your products are accessible to over > 2 billion people. We'd like you to see what you can do to bring down > the costs of your supplies...economies of scale and all that." > > TMO: "Sorry, Wal-Mart, we have a strict 1,500% mark-up on our MAPI > products. For example, on our 8 oz. Vata Churna product, it costs us > about 34 cents for the spices we put into it. Add on another 20 cents > per unit for packaging, labor and overhead and you're talking a > whopping 54 cents cost to us for each one. Now we sell each unit for > $15.95. We're selling each unit to Wal-Mar for $10.00...tell us how > we're supposed to make money if we bring our cost to you down!" > Of course, MAPI products are all supposedly made in the traditional way, which probably doesn't mean much, cost-wise, since they come from India, but it DOES mean that there is a supply constraint: you can't just plant more crops willy-nilly and increase production if said crops have to be grown and/or harvested in a certain way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of it as > well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now if Wal- mart > could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. > The problem there is that Wal-Mart actively negotiates their costs with suppliers DOWN every year. As I understand it, Wal-Mart attempts to get their suppliers to bring their prices on supplies to them down by about 5% every year, which they then pass on to consumers. Many economists have said that Wal-Mart's policy in this area is almost singularly responsible for the very low inflation rate in the USA over the past 15 years. Negotiating with the TMO over prices? Can you imagine being a fly on the wall over those negotiations? Wal-Mart: "TMO, now that we're carrying your MAPI products in all of our stores throughout the world, your products are accessible to over 2 billion people. We'd like you to see what you can do to bring down the costs of your supplies...economies of scale and all that." TMO: "Sorry, Wal-Mart, we have a strict 1,500% mark-up on our MAPI products. For example, on our 8 oz. Vata Churna product, it costs us about 34 cents for the spices we put into it. Add on another 20 cents per unit for packaging, labor and overhead and you're talking a whopping 54 cents cost to us for each one. Now we sell each unit for $15.95. We're selling each unit to Wal-Mar for $10.00...tell us how we're supposed to make money if we bring our cost to you down!" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural law at work?competion is better 4 us all,Wal_Marts good news
reduces the price making it available 4 more of us to buy & more of it as well that whole milk & @ Wal-mart great news for many of us. now if Wal- mart could sell Maharishi Ayer Vedic products as well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
