[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[emptybill]

Fergit all that.

Jus' dive down a prairie dog hole like Willy.
You can call it New Zealot-Land when you get
to the bottom. You can then assert
yer new freedom from authority.

Holy Mukti.mantra! A freed sole!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:

> Maybe because Grayson's meeting was just another
> phony scandal.
>
> You sound paranoid. Why would you want to protect
> your meta data from your own government? Go figure.
>
> Maybe you should consider just disappearing without
> a trace. If that's what you want to do you need to
> consider two things:
>
> 1. What does the federal government have on you?
> 2. What information have you left on the internet?
>
> You probably imagine disappearing like being on a
> deserted beach with endless beers to drink. LoL!
>
> You'd first need to change your name and don a
> disguise (in your case, this may be the biggest
> obstacle).
>
> May I suggest moving to New Zealand  - one of the
> best places to disappear, as it's a long way off
> and has great beaches, is an English-speaking country
> and it's easy to acclimate to life over there.
>
> What you'd need to do is lay low and avoid Google
> Street View. Even if you move far away, stop using
> Yahoo!, Google, and Facebook.
>
> 'How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint,
> Leave  False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace'
> by Frank M. Ahearn  and Eileen C. Horan
> Lyons Press, 2010
>
> CDT's Guide to Online Privacy:
> https://www.cdt.org/privacy/guide/basic/tips.php
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[emptybill]

Ahhh ... the good ol' days!


"During the civil war General Francisco Franco invited the Berlin
Police Chief, Count Wolf von Helldorf, to help his new totalitarian
government organize the Falangist police. SS Fuhrer Heinrich Himmler was
given a medal by the victorious Franco in 1939 when the civil war was
over. After the fall of France in 1940, the unforgiving Franco was
perfectly willing to get rid of the 150,000 "red" Spanish refugees
still in southern France. The alternative punishment for the Spanish
exiles, now stateless in Madrid's eyes, was death immediately upon
return home to face Spanish Army execution or slave work. Prisoners
would build the Valle de los Caidos, "The valley of the fallen,"
which would become Franco's own Egyptian style tomb. If the Spanish
leftists remained in France, the preferred option, up to July 1940, they
faced a slow death at some unknown date at the hands of the SS in
Austria. Like the Jews of Poland, the Spaniards did not know what faced
them in Mauthausen until after they got inside the gate."

Robert Whealey, author of Hitler and Spain: The Nazi Role in the Spanish
Civil War 1936-1939 (Lexington, Kentucky: University Press of Kentucky,
1989).




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 08/04/2013 09:51 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> >
> >>> Everyone in Oakland, CA is under surveillance, at least
> >>> they should be. Apparently one in ten people in Oakland
> >>> are either crooks, murderers, drug dealers, or rapists.
> >>>
> > Bhairitu:
> >> That's because most of them are broke and can't find work.
> >> That's also coming to a place near you.
> >>
> >> As people lose everything they lose it. Thank the
> >> banksters for that.
> >>
> > So, the terrorists have killed thousands of people world
> > wide, raped and murdered hundreds of people in Oakland
> > this year, but your enemy is the Bank of America.
> >
> > So, we should not be gathering any evidence about the
> > crooks and terrorists or the murderers because that
> > would be wrong because they are broke and out of a job.
> >
> > Go figure.
>
> You can't figure.  Suicide is now the number one cause of death in the
> US.  Many of those suicides are from people depressed over losing
their
> homes and their jobs due to the banks.  In fact probably far more than
> any "Islamic" terrorist attack on US soil including the "supposed"
> Islamic 9/11 one.
>
> The statistics on death by suicide is known but suppressed by the MSM
as
> would be the reason too (banks buy a lot of advertising on the MSM).
>
> I have not heard of any terrorist activity in Oakland unless you
include
> police activity.  Gang activity is NOT terrorist activity. Police
assets
> dressing up as "anarchists" and damaging property to give anarchy a
bad
> name.  This because they fear anarchism more than communism.  Why?
> Because anarchism is non-hierarchical so there can be no "elite" and
the
> "elite" can't own property.  Pretty cool solution if you ask me. 
Check
> out how it worked for a while in Spain in the first part of the 20th
> century.  So well that it really pissed the rich off and they
supported
> fascist puppet stooge Franco.
>
> Don't know much about history do you, sheeple Willy?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Richard J. Williams]

> > No politician on the left is even whispering about 
> > being against this data gathering program; it's only 
> > on the right with Rand Paul that I see any push back 
> > at all. Go figure.
> >
Bhairitu:
> Obama, who has rarely ever visited the House decides 
> he's going to meet with the House thus scuttling 
> Grayson's hearing. A coincidence? I doubt it...
>
Maybe because Grayson's meeting was just another 
phony scandal. 

You sound paranoid. Why would you want to protect 
your meta data from your own government? Go figure.

Maybe you should consider just disappearing without 
a trace. If that's what you want to do you need to 
consider two things:

1. What does the federal government have on you?
2. What information have you left on the internet?

You probably imagine disappearing like being on a 
deserted beach with endless beers to drink. LoL!

You'd first need to change your name and don a 
disguise (in your case, this may be the biggest 
obstacle).

May I suggest moving to New Zealand  - one of the 
best places to disappear, as it's a long way off 
and has great beaches, is an English-speaking country 
and it's easy to acclimate to life over there. 

What you'd need to do is lay low and avoid Google 
Street View. Even if you move far away, stop using 
Yahoo!, Google, and Facebook.

'How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint, 
Leave  False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace' 
by Frank M. Ahearn  and Eileen C. Horan 
Lyons Press, 2010

CDT's Guide to Online Privacy:
https://www.cdt.org/privacy/guide/basic/tips.php 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Bhairitu]

On 08/04/2013 11:39 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> You could build a Faraday Cage.
>
> No politician on the left is even whispering about being
> against this data gathering program; it's only on the right
> with Rand Paul that I see any push back at all. Go figure.

You're a liar, Willy.  Even worse yet you believe your own lies. I 
mentioned the other day that Representative Alan Grayson was to hold a 
hearing in the house on the NSA spying.  Glenn Greenwald even flew in to 
testify.  And what happened?  Obama, who has rarely ever visited the 
House decides he's going to meet with the House thus scuttling Grayson's 
hearing.  A coincidence?  I doubt it.

Also the amendment to cut NSA funding for unauthorized spying was 
sponsored by Rep. Justin Amash and Rep. John Conyers was barely defeated 
in the house with the majority of Republicans voting against it.

Please pay attention.

>
> What's up with that?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>> A quote from Mike Rivero of WRH about NSA spying and the new terror threat;
>> "So the official story is that the US Government, now blessed with a massive 
>> global spy network that watches everyone, claims to have the "most specific 
>> and credible" terror threat ever.
>>
>> So why don't they arrest the terrorists?
>>
>> Because of the terror attacks happens, it means one of two things.
>>
>> 1. This new "terror" attack is a false-flag operation; a faked event by a US 
>> Government desperate to distract the American people from the 
>> unconstitutional existence of that massive spy network, to distract the 
>> American people from the IRS targeting of the President's political enemies 
>> (an impeachable crime), to distract the American people from the exploding 
>> scandal surrounding Benghazi, which appears to have been yet another 
>> false-flag stunt to bolster Obama's re-election chances and re-ignite 
>> Americans' flagging war fever.
>>
>> 2. None of the massive and costly security imposed by the United States 
>> government on the American people and the rest of the world actually works. 
>> If there is another terror attack it means that the grabbing of our crotches 
>> (and looting of our luggage) by TSA does not work. If there is another 
>> terror attack it means the NSA spying on Americans does not work. If there 
>> is another terror attack it means the Department o Homeland Security, CIA, 
>> BI, etc. do not work.
>>
>> Take your pick!"
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
> You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing
> wrong what are you worried about?
>
>>> Bhairitu:
 This from somebody who posted under a different handle
 because he didn't want his real name to be associated
 with backpacks and pressure cookers. Now go figure.

>>> Well, I figure nobody here wants their real name
>>> associated with backpacks and pressure cookers like
>>> some newbie did with you, but you don't have a real
>>> name, just a handle.
>>>
>>> So, I'm not convinced that our job on FFL is to fink
>>> on respondents that do Google searches. What is it
>>> with all the finks on FFL?
>>>
>>> Maybe we need the NSA to collect data on terrorists
>>> that might want to harm us, whether they are in this
>>> country or anywhere else. Apparently our ally countries
>>> can't seem to get the job done - there's probably a
>>> terrorist hiding under your bed, or several hanging
>>> out in downtown Oakland.
>>>
>>> A major attack by al Qaeda? I thought Obama said we
>>> hade won the war and they were dead; that we were
>>> bringing the troops home. Mission accomplished.
>>>
>>> Go figure.
>>>
>>> Didn't Obama say he killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan
>>> and Andwar Al-Awlaki and his teenage son, Abdul, in
>>> Yemen with a drone strike. You're saying that after
>>> ten years we haven't won the war against the terrorists
>>> yet, but we don't need a U.S. spy agency?
>>>
>>> WHAT!?
>>>
>>>
> The main business of the internet model is founded on
> mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace.
 My Face?

> This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes,
> you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL!
 I really don't think the "powers at be" like the Internet very much. Too
 easy for folks to expose their crimes. But the genie is out of the
 bottle and they are having a helluva time putting it back in. First off
 their own cronies are enjoying making money via the Internet so it can't
 be hampered and certainly not shut down.

 "Only a few right-wing crazies believe that universal surveillance of
 every American is necessary to US security. The National Stasi Agency
 will fight hard and blackmail every member of the House and Senate, but
 the blackmail itself will lead to the National Stasi Agency's wings
 being clipped, or so we can hope. If it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Bhairitu]

On 08/04/2013 09:51 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>>> Everyone in Oakland, CA is under surveillance, at least
>>> they should be. Apparently one in ten people in Oakland
>>> are either crooks, murderers, drug dealers, or rapists.
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> That's because most of them are broke and can't find work.
>> That's also coming to a place near you.
>>
>> As people lose everything they lose it. Thank the
>> banksters for that.
>>
> So, the terrorists have killed thousands of people world
> wide, raped and murdered hundreds of people in Oakland
> this year, but your enemy is the Bank of America.
>
> So, we should not be gathering any evidence about the
> crooks and terrorists or the murderers because that
> would be wrong because they are broke and out of a job.
>
> Go figure.

You can't figure.  Suicide is now the number one cause of death in the 
US.  Many of those suicides are from people depressed over losing their 
homes and their jobs due to the banks.  In fact probably far more than 
any "Islamic" terrorist attack on US soil including the "supposed" 
Islamic 9/11 one.

The statistics on death by suicide is known but suppressed by the MSM as 
would be the reason too (banks buy a lot of advertising on the MSM).

I have not heard of any terrorist activity in Oakland unless you include 
police activity.  Gang activity is NOT terrorist activity. Police assets 
dressing up as "anarchists" and damaging property to give anarchy a bad 
name.  This because they fear anarchism more than communism.  Why?  
Because anarchism is non-hierarchical so there can be no "elite" and the 
"elite" can't own property.  Pretty cool solution if you ask me.  Check 
out how it worked for a while in Spain in the first part of the 20th 
century.  So well that it really pissed the rich off and they supported 
fascist puppet stooge Franco.

Don't know much about history do you, sheeple Willy?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Richard J. Williams]

You could build a Faraday Cage.

No politician on the left is even whispering about being 
against this data gathering program; it's only on the right 
with Rand Paul that I see any push back at all. Go figure.

What's up with that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> A quote from Mike Rivero of WRH about NSA spying and the new terror threat;
> "So the official story is that the US Government, now blessed with a massive 
> global spy network that watches everyone, claims to have the "most specific 
> and credible" terror threat ever.
> 
> So why don't they arrest the terrorists?
> 
> Because of the terror attacks happens, it means one of two things.
> 
> 1. This new "terror" attack is a false-flag operation; a faked event by a US 
> Government desperate to distract the American people from the 
> unconstitutional existence of that massive spy network, to distract the 
> American people from the IRS targeting of the President's political enemies 
> (an impeachable crime), to distract the American people from the exploding 
> scandal surrounding Benghazi, which appears to have been yet another 
> false-flag stunt to bolster Obama's re-election chances and re-ignite 
> Americans' flagging war fever.
> 
> 2. None of the massive and costly security imposed by the United States 
> government on the American people and the rest of the world actually works. 
> If there is another terror attack it means that the grabbing of our crotches 
> (and looting of our luggage) by TSA does not work. If there is another terror 
> attack it means the NSA spying on Americans does not work. If there is 
> another terror attack it means the Department o Homeland Security, CIA, BI, 
> etc. do not work.
> 
> Take your pick!"
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing
> > > > wrong what are you worried about?
> > > >
> > Bhairitu:
> > > This from somebody who posted under a different handle 
> > > because he didn't want his real name to be associated 
> > > with backpacks and pressure cookers. Now go figure.
> > >
> > Well, I figure nobody here wants their real name 
> > associated with backpacks and pressure cookers like 
> > some newbie did with you, but you don't have a real 
> > name, just a handle.
> > 
> > So, I'm not convinced that our job on FFL is to fink 
> > on respondents that do Google searches. What is it 
> > with all the finks on FFL?
> > 
> > Maybe we need the NSA to collect data on terrorists 
> > that might want to harm us, whether they are in this 
> > country or anywhere else. Apparently our ally countries 
> > can't seem to get the job done - there's probably a 
> > terrorist hiding under your bed, or several hanging 
> > out in downtown Oakland. 
> > 
> > A major attack by al Qaeda? I thought Obama said we 
> > hade won the war and they were dead; that we were 
> > bringing the troops home. Mission accomplished. 
> > 
> > Go figure.
> > 
> > Didn't Obama say he killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan 
> > and Andwar Al-Awlaki and his teenage son, Abdul, in 
> > Yemen with a drone strike. You're saying that after 
> > ten years we haven't won the war against the terrorists 
> > yet, but we don't need a U.S. spy agency? 
> > 
> > WHAT!? 
> > 
> > 
> > > > The main business of the internet model is founded on
> > > > mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace.
> > > 
> > > My Face?
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes,
> > > > you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL!
> > > 
> > > I really don't think the "powers at be" like the Internet very much. Too 
> > > easy for folks to expose their crimes. But the genie is out of the 
> > > bottle and they are having a helluva time putting it back in. First off 
> > > their own cronies are enjoying making money via the Internet so it can't 
> > > be hampered and certainly not shut down.
> > > 
> > > "Only a few right-wing crazies believe that universal surveillance of 
> > > every American is necessary to US security. The National Stasi Agency 
> > > will fight hard and blackmail every member of the House and Senate, but 
> > > the blackmail itself will lead to the National Stasi Agency's wings 
> > > being clipped, or so we can hope. If it is not done soon, the Stasi 
> > > Agency will have time to organize a false flag event that will terrify 
> > > the sheeple and bring an end to the attempts to rein in the rogue agency."
> > > 
> > > Paul Craig Roberts -- full article here:
> > > http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/01/double-feature-bradley-manning-verdict-convicts-washington-and-hiding-economic-depression-with-spin-paul-craig-roberts/
> > > 
> > > Roberts is not a conspiracy theorist but Assistant Secretary of the 
> > > Treasury under Ronald Reagan.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Besides, President Obama and James Clapper both said
> > > > tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Everyone in Oakland, CA is under surveillance, at least
> > they should be. Apparently one in ten people in Oakland
> > are either crooks, murderers, drug dealers, or rapists.
> >
Bhairitu:
> That's because most of them are broke and can't find work. 
> That's also coming to a place near you.
> 
> As people lose everything they lose it. Thank the 
> banksters for that.
>
So, the terrorists have killed thousands of people world 
wide, raped and murdered hundreds of people in Oakland 
this year, but your enemy is the Bank of America.

So, we should not be gathering any evidence about the 
crooks and terrorists or the murderers because that 
would be wrong because they are broke and out of a job. 

Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Bhairitu]

On 08/04/2013 08:29 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> emptybill:
>> Oakland's creepy new surveillance program
>>
> Everyone in Oakland, CA is under surveillance, at least
> they should be. Apparently one in ten people in Oakland
> are either crooks, murderers, drug dealers, or rapists.

That's because most of them are broke and can't find work.  That's also 
coming to a place near you.

As people lose everything they lose it.  Thank the banksters for that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Bhairitu]

On 08/04/2013 07:26 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:




You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing
wrong what are you worried about?


Bhairitu:

This from somebody who posted under a different handle
because he didn't want his real name to be associated
with backpacks and pressure cookers. Now go figure.


Well, I figure nobody here wants their real name
associated with backpacks and pressure cookers like
some newbie did with you, but you don't have a real
name, just a handle.

So, I'm not convinced that our job on FFL is to fink
on respondents that do Google searches. What is it
with all the finks on FFL?

Maybe we need the NSA to collect data on terrorists
that might want to harm us, whether they are in this
country or anywhere else. Apparently our ally countries
can't seem to get the job done - there's probably a
terrorist hiding under your bed, or several hanging
out in downtown Oakland.


Here are some addresses of real terrorists:

200 West Street, New York, NY
270 Park Ave, New York, NY
100 N Tryon St #170, Charlotte, NC
**399 Park Ave. New York, NY
420 Montgomery Street , San Francisco, CA

They aren't under my bed obviously.  But they've probably already hurt 
you as well as everyone else here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Richard J. Williams]

emptybill:
> Oakland's creepy new surveillance program
>
Everyone in Oakland, CA is under surveillance, at least
they should be. Apparently one in ten people in Oakland
are either crooks, murderers, drug dealers, or rapists.

  

"With nearly 12 robberies a day and murders, rapes and
assaults all on the rise, Oakland is the Bay Area's crime
hot spot..."

'Crime up in Oakland, much of Bay Area'
SFGate:
http://tinyurl.com/l23rwte 

Crime rates for Oakland, CA
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/oakland/crime/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[obbajeeba]

A quote from Mike Rivero of WRH about NSA spying and the new terror threat;
"So the official story is that the US Government, now blessed with a massive 
global spy network that watches everyone, claims to have the "most specific and 
credible" terror threat ever.

So why don't they arrest the terrorists?

Because of the terror attacks happens, it means one of two things.

1. This new "terror" attack is a false-flag operation; a faked event by a US 
Government desperate to distract the American people from the unconstitutional 
existence of that massive spy network, to distract the American people from the 
IRS targeting of the President's political enemies (an impeachable crime), to 
distract the American people from the exploding scandal surrounding Benghazi, 
which appears to have been yet another false-flag stunt to bolster Obama's 
re-election chances and re-ignite Americans' flagging war fever.

2. None of the massive and costly security imposed by the United States 
government on the American people and the rest of the world actually works. If 
there is another terror attack it means that the grabbing of our crotches (and 
looting of our luggage) by TSA does not work. If there is another terror attack 
it means the NSA spying on Americans does not work. If there is another terror 
attack it means the Department o Homeland Security, CIA, BI, etc. do not work.

Take your pick!"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> > > You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing
> > > wrong what are you worried about?
> > >
> Bhairitu:
> > This from somebody who posted under a different handle 
> > because he didn't want his real name to be associated 
> > with backpacks and pressure cookers. Now go figure.
> >
> Well, I figure nobody here wants their real name 
> associated with backpacks and pressure cookers like 
> some newbie did with you, but you don't have a real 
> name, just a handle.
> 
> So, I'm not convinced that our job on FFL is to fink 
> on respondents that do Google searches. What is it 
> with all the finks on FFL?
> 
> Maybe we need the NSA to collect data on terrorists 
> that might want to harm us, whether they are in this 
> country or anywhere else. Apparently our ally countries 
> can't seem to get the job done - there's probably a 
> terrorist hiding under your bed, or several hanging 
> out in downtown Oakland. 
> 
> A major attack by al Qaeda? I thought Obama said we 
> hade won the war and they were dead; that we were 
> bringing the troops home. Mission accomplished. 
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> Didn't Obama say he killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan 
> and Andwar Al-Awlaki and his teenage son, Abdul, in 
> Yemen with a drone strike. You're saying that after 
> ten years we haven't won the war against the terrorists 
> yet, but we don't need a U.S. spy agency? 
> 
> WHAT!? 
> 
> 
> > > The main business of the internet model is founded on
> > > mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace.
> > 
> > My Face?
> > 
> > >
> > > This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes,
> > > you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL!
> > 
> > I really don't think the "powers at be" like the Internet very much. Too 
> > easy for folks to expose their crimes. But the genie is out of the 
> > bottle and they are having a helluva time putting it back in. First off 
> > their own cronies are enjoying making money via the Internet so it can't 
> > be hampered and certainly not shut down.
> > 
> > "Only a few right-wing crazies believe that universal surveillance of 
> > every American is necessary to US security. The National Stasi Agency 
> > will fight hard and blackmail every member of the House and Senate, but 
> > the blackmail itself will lead to the National Stasi Agency's wings 
> > being clipped, or so we can hope. If it is not done soon, the Stasi 
> > Agency will have time to organize a false flag event that will terrify 
> > the sheeple and bring an end to the attempts to rein in the rogue agency."
> > 
> > Paul Craig Roberts -- full article here:
> > http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/01/double-feature-bradley-manning-verdict-convicts-washington-and-hiding-economic-depression-with-spin-paul-craig-roberts/
> > 
> > Roberts is not a conspiracy theorist but Assistant Secretary of the 
> > Treasury under Ronald Reagan.
> > 
> > >
> > > Besides, President Obama and James Clapper both said
> > > that the NSA wasn't listening in on your phone calls.
> > Anyone assigned to listening to my phone calls would be very bored.
> > >
> > > Are you saying that they lied to us? Go figure.
> > >
> > > 'Is Your Cable Box Spying On You? Behavior-Detecting
> > > Devices From Verizon, Microsoft And Others Worry
> > > Privacy Advocates'
> > > http://tinyurl.com/mk57tz3
> > 
> > Find the camera and microphone and disable them. If they don't like that 
> > then it is time for civil war. The latest thing was the discovery that 
> > Samsung Smart TVs could be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Richard J. Williams]

> > You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing
> > wrong what are you worried about?
> >
Bhairitu:
> This from somebody who posted under a different handle 
> because he didn't want his real name to be associated 
> with backpacks and pressure cookers. Now go figure.
>
Well, I figure nobody here wants their real name 
associated with backpacks and pressure cookers like 
some newbie did with you, but you don't have a real 
name, just a handle.

So, I'm not convinced that our job on FFL is to fink 
on respondents that do Google searches. What is it 
with all the finks on FFL?

Maybe we need the NSA to collect data on terrorists 
that might want to harm us, whether they are in this 
country or anywhere else. Apparently our ally countries 
can't seem to get the job done - there's probably a 
terrorist hiding under your bed, or several hanging 
out in downtown Oakland. 

A major attack by al Qaeda? I thought Obama said we 
hade won the war and they were dead; that we were 
bringing the troops home. Mission accomplished. 

Go figure.

Didn't Obama say he killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan 
and Andwar Al-Awlaki and his teenage son, Abdul, in 
Yemen with a drone strike. You're saying that after 
ten years we haven't won the war against the terrorists 
yet, but we don't need a U.S. spy agency? 

WHAT!? 


> > The main business of the internet model is founded on
> > mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace.
> 
> My Face?
> 
> >
> > This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes,
> > you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL!
> 
> I really don't think the "powers at be" like the Internet very much. Too 
> easy for folks to expose their crimes. But the genie is out of the 
> bottle and they are having a helluva time putting it back in. First off 
> their own cronies are enjoying making money via the Internet so it can't 
> be hampered and certainly not shut down.
> 
> "Only a few right-wing crazies believe that universal surveillance of 
> every American is necessary to US security. The National Stasi Agency 
> will fight hard and blackmail every member of the House and Senate, but 
> the blackmail itself will lead to the National Stasi Agency's wings 
> being clipped, or so we can hope. If it is not done soon, the Stasi 
> Agency will have time to organize a false flag event that will terrify 
> the sheeple and bring an end to the attempts to rein in the rogue agency."
> 
> Paul Craig Roberts -- full article here:
> http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/01/double-feature-bradley-manning-verdict-convicts-washington-and-hiding-economic-depression-with-spin-paul-craig-roberts/
> 
> Roberts is not a conspiracy theorist but Assistant Secretary of the 
> Treasury under Ronald Reagan.
> 
> >
> > Besides, President Obama and James Clapper both said
> > that the NSA wasn't listening in on your phone calls.
> Anyone assigned to listening to my phone calls would be very bored.
> >
> > Are you saying that they lied to us? Go figure.
> >
> > 'Is Your Cable Box Spying On You? Behavior-Detecting
> > Devices From Verizon, Microsoft And Others Worry
> > Privacy Advocates'
> > http://tinyurl.com/mk57tz3
> 
> Find the camera and microphone and disable them. If they don't like that 
> then it is time for civil war. The latest thing was the discovery that 
> Samsung Smart TVs could be hacked. Paranoia Planet behaved like all TVs 
> could do this. Blame Samsung marketing for adding yet another gimmick to 
> sell more TVs. The idea was that folks (the usual non tech savvy 
> suspects) wouldn't need a computer to talk to grandma in Wisconsin. Of 
> course they didn't exactly think out stuff that well (it was probably 
> rushed to market to stay ahead of the competition) and a patch was sent 
> out to keep hackers from gaining access to see Willy watching "Gomer 
> Pyle" in the altogether. Of course that might be so disgusting they 
> might give up hacking. :-D
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> I don't know how long it would take to write such a script because I
> >> have no idea of what Snowden's expertise is.  IT is a little different
> >> realm than writing software applications.  Most application developers
> >> have enough savvy to create interfaces required if the app needs
> >> Internet access.  Most of us use cookbook solutions for that which now
> >> instead of real books are searches on places like Stackoverflow.com .
> >>
> >> But when the Snowden news broke a while back I mentioned on tech blogs
> >> that it might be giving tech company senior management pause to know
> >> that the NSA would know all their new secret projects, the ones we sign
> >> NDAs for.  And of course that might concern more than just tech company
> >> senior managers but also those in a lot other sectors.
> >>
> >> In the civilian sector, I suspect there are a lot more moral sysops who
> >> won't look at emails.  Not all would be that way but you do know that
> >> without the prote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Bhairitu]

On 08/03/2013 02:27 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing
> wrong what are you worried about? Go figure.

This from somebody who posted under a different handle because he didn't 
want his real name to be associated with backpacks and pressure cookers. 
Now go figure.

>
> The main business of the internet model is founded on
> mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace.

My Face?

>
> This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes,
> you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL!

I really don't think the "powers at be" like the Internet very much. Too 
easy for folks to expose their crimes. But the genie is out of the 
bottle and they are having a helluva time putting it back in. First off 
their own cronies are enjoying making money via the Internet so it can't 
be hampered and certainly not shut down.

"Only a few right-wing crazies believe that universal surveillance of 
every American is necessary to US security. The National Stasi Agency 
will fight hard and blackmail every member of the House and Senate, but 
the blackmail itself will lead to the National Stasi Agency’s wings 
being clipped, or so we can hope. If it is not done soon, the Stasi 
Agency will have time to organize a false flag event that will terrify 
the sheeple and bring an end to the attempts to rein in the rogue agency."

Paul Craig Roberts -- full article here:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/01/double-feature-bradley-manning-verdict-convicts-washington-and-hiding-economic-depression-with-spin-paul-craig-roberts/

Roberts is not a conspiracy theorist but Assistant Secretary of the 
Treasury under Ronald Reagan.

>
> Besides, President Obama and James Clapper both said
> that the NSA wasn't listening in on your phone calls.
Anyone assigned to listening to my phone calls would be very bored.
>
> Are you saying that they lied to us? Go figure.
>
> 'Is Your Cable Box Spying On You? Behavior-Detecting
> Devices From Verizon, Microsoft And Others Worry
> Privacy Advocates'
> http://tinyurl.com/mk57tz3

Find the camera and microphone and disable them. If they don't like that 
then it is time for civil war. The latest thing was the discovery that 
Samsung Smart TVs could be hacked. Paranoia Planet behaved like all TVs 
could do this. Blame Samsung marketing for adding yet another gimmick to 
sell more TVs. The idea was that folks (the usual non tech savvy 
suspects) wouldn't need a computer to talk to grandma in Wisconsin. Of 
course they didn't exactly think out stuff that well (it was probably 
rushed to market to stay ahead of the competition) and a patch was sent 
out to keep hackers from gaining access to see Willy watching "Gomer 
Pyle" in the altogether. Of course that might be so disgusting they 
might give up hacking. :-D

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> I don't know how long it would take to write such a script because I
>> have no idea of what Snowden's expertise is.  IT is a little different
>> realm than writing software applications.  Most application developers
>> have enough savvy to create interfaces required if the app needs
>> Internet access.  Most of us use cookbook solutions for that which now
>> instead of real books are searches on places like Stackoverflow.com .
>>
>> But when the Snowden news broke a while back I mentioned on tech blogs
>> that it might be giving tech company senior management pause to know
>> that the NSA would know all their new secret projects, the ones we sign
>> NDAs for.  And of course that might concern more than just tech company
>> senior managers but also those in a lot other sectors.
>>
>> In the civilian sector, I suspect there are a lot more moral sysops who
>> won't look at emails.  Not all would be that way but you do know that
>> without the protections of being a government agency employee they DO
>> risk getting caught by the SEC.  And that would give many pause.
>>
>> We are actually fucked more by the people who don't give a fuck about
>> anyone else but themselves.  They are smart enough to know that religion
>> is a sham and they won't be going to some mythical thing called "hell"
>> if they steal.  So they "just do it."  That is the bottom line in that
>> film I mentioned the other day:  "Assault on Wall Street."
>>
>> In a world of over 7 billion people these smarmy souls behave like
>> bandits in an "every man for himself" way.  Screw the rest of us. The
>> fact is that our establishment has no good plans to deal with such a
>> population so they take that tact.  Our world has been run for quite
>> some time by a criminal mindset.
>>
>> Ask Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs about their criminal activities and
>> he will tell you "it is just doing business."
>>
>> On 08/03/2013 01:08 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
>>> Bhairitu,
>>>
>>> Okay, tell us:  if you had Snowden's access and his computer-savvy, could 
>>> you write a script in about 15 minutes that would:
>>>
>>> 1.  Find 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[emptybill]

Oakland's creepy new surveillance program


presstv.ir 

August 3, 2013

Earlier this week, the Oakland City Council voted to approve the second
phase of a $10.9 million surveillance center that would enable the City
to engage in widespread warrantless surveillance of Oakland residents
who have engaged in no wrongdoing whatsoever. This is a terrible blow to
privacy.

The so-called Domain Awareness Center (DAC) would consolidate a vast
network of surveillance data. The project was initially supposed to be
about port security.

But in a classic illustration of mission creep, the project as proposed
would have pulled in over 1,000 cameras and sensors pointed at Oakland
residents, including 700 cameras in Oakland schools.

While surveilling schoolchildren is not going to secure the Port of
Oakland, it would allow for the comprehensive tracking of innocent
Oakland residents.

The DAC would enable the city to track individuals when they visit the
abortion clinic, the Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, or the union hall, or
engage in other private activities.

Although proponents of the project claimed that it did nothing more than
consolidate existing surveillance systems, the mere combination of
surveillance data is extremely intrusive. A mosaic depicts far more
information than any individual tile.

Shockingly, the City Council was poised to approve the project even
though there was no privacy framework in place whatsoever.

Although the City's proposed contract with a vendor to build the DAC
took pains to prescribe in minute detail the precise manner in which,
for example, metal framing systems are to be installed (studs are to be
placed not more than 2 inches from abutting walls), there were no
privacy provisions addressing key issues such as data retention and
dissemination.

Disappointingly, and in the face of enormous opposition, the City
Council voted on Tuesday to approve the DAC.

The resolution it ultimately adopted requires the City Council to
approve privacy policies and specifies which surveillance systems can be
included in the DAC (the cameras in Oakland schools are no longer
included).

While the resolution contains a few nods to privacy, the City Council
still put the cart before the horse.

The City Council would never have approved a construction project, only
to say that they'd review financial costs after the project is
built. But it did just that with privacy costs.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2013 11:25 AM, emptybill wrote:
> > Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex
> >
> > by Chriss W. Street
> >   1 Aug 2013

> They want us all to be like chickens in a coop.  We have crazy people
in
> charge of our corporate paid for government dependent on Americans
being
> apathetic.
>
> And maybe they are planning a fireworks show for Barack's birthday
> tomorrow.  Maybe trying out their new EMF weapon on Syria?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Richard J. Williams]

You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing 
wrong what are you worried about? Go figure.

The main business of the internet model is founded on
mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace.

This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes,
you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL!

Besides, President Obama and James Clapper both said 
that the NSA wasn't listening in on your phone calls. 

Are you saying that they lied to us? Go figure.

'Is Your Cable Box Spying On You? Behavior-Detecting 
Devices From Verizon, Microsoft And Others Worry 
Privacy Advocates'
http://tinyurl.com/mk57tz3


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I don't know how long it would take to write such a script because I 
> have no idea of what Snowden's expertise is.  IT is a little different 
> realm than writing software applications.  Most application developers 
> have enough savvy to create interfaces required if the app needs 
> Internet access.  Most of us use cookbook solutions for that which now 
> instead of real books are searches on places like Stackoverflow.com .
> 
> But when the Snowden news broke a while back I mentioned on tech blogs 
> that it might be giving tech company senior management pause to know 
> that the NSA would know all their new secret projects, the ones we sign 
> NDAs for.  And of course that might concern more than just tech company 
> senior managers but also those in a lot other sectors.
> 
> In the civilian sector, I suspect there are a lot more moral sysops who 
> won't look at emails.  Not all would be that way but you do know that 
> without the protections of being a government agency employee they DO 
> risk getting caught by the SEC.  And that would give many pause.
> 
> We are actually fucked more by the people who don't give a fuck about 
> anyone else but themselves.  They are smart enough to know that religion 
> is a sham and they won't be going to some mythical thing called "hell" 
> if they steal.  So they "just do it."  That is the bottom line in that 
> film I mentioned the other day:  "Assault on Wall Street."
> 
> In a world of over 7 billion people these smarmy souls behave like 
> bandits in an "every man for himself" way.  Screw the rest of us. The 
> fact is that our establishment has no good plans to deal with such a 
> population so they take that tact.  Our world has been run for quite 
> some time by a criminal mindset.
> 
> Ask Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs about their criminal activities and 
> he will tell you "it is just doing business."
> 
> On 08/03/2013 01:08 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
> > Bhairitu,
> >
> > Okay, tell us:  if you had Snowden's access and his computer-savvy, could 
> > you write a script in about 15 minutes that would:
> >
> > 1.  Find the rich people.
> > 2.  Eavesdrop on them with software to filter out those who are investing 
> > regularly in the markets.
> > 3.  See real-time trends before the buys-and-sells are posted.
> > 4.  Make vast profits exploiting the markets with the Ultimate Bucket Shop 
> > Tool.
> >
> > I think your answer will be yes (with maybe a few quibbles.)
> >
> > If so, given that they say there are ONE MILLION "snowdens" with such 
> > powers, how could anyone reasonably expect that that many sysops are all 
> > certain to be sane, moral, and legal?
> >
> > Your answer:  maybe 98% -- right?
> >
> > We're all being fucked by invisible dicks, right?
> >
> > Edg
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> On 08/03/2013 11:25 AM, emptybill wrote:
> >>> Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex
> >>>
> >>> by Chriss W. Street
> >>>   1 Aug 2013
> >>>
> >>> Unburdened by the Constitutional requirement to obtain a search warrant,
> >>> those nice people at the National Security Agency (NSA) have teamed with
> >>> Apple, Google and Microsoft to take time out of their busy day to
> >>> capture all your party pictures from college, intimate letters with your
> >>> lover and financial activities of your business in order to build a
> >>> "permanent file" for leverage against you at a later date.
> >>>
> >>> These are just the latest depressing revelations about the rise of the
> >>> military-industrial complex from whistleblower/traitor Edward Snowden as
> >>> he accepted political asylum in Russia today.
> >>>
> >>> Snowden's latest bombshell, via Glenn Greenwald at the UK Guardian
> >>>  >>> ine-data> , is the outing of the NSA's XKeyscore software that is
> >>> vacuuming up "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet."
> >>> The top secret program allows civilian contractors in the U.S. to troll
> >>> vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing
> >>> histories of millions of individuals around the world.
> >>>
> >>> The NSA boasts in training materials that XKeyscore is its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Bhairitu]

I don't know how long it would take to write such a script because I 
have no idea of what Snowden's expertise is.  IT is a little different 
realm than writing software applications.  Most application developers 
have enough savvy to create interfaces required if the app needs 
Internet access.  Most of us use cookbook solutions for that which now 
instead of real books are searches on places like Stackoverflow.com .

But when the Snowden news broke a while back I mentioned on tech blogs 
that it might be giving tech company senior management pause to know 
that the NSA would know all their new secret projects, the ones we sign 
NDAs for.  And of course that might concern more than just tech company 
senior managers but also those in a lot other sectors.

In the civilian sector, I suspect there are a lot more moral sysops who 
won't look at emails.  Not all would be that way but you do know that 
without the protections of being a government agency employee they DO 
risk getting caught by the SEC.  And that would give many pause.

We are actually fucked more by the people who don't give a fuck about 
anyone else but themselves.  They are smart enough to know that religion 
is a sham and they won't be going to some mythical thing called "hell" 
if they steal.  So they "just do it."  That is the bottom line in that 
film I mentioned the other day:  "Assault on Wall Street."

In a world of over 7 billion people these smarmy souls behave like 
bandits in an "every man for himself" way.  Screw the rest of us. The 
fact is that our establishment has no good plans to deal with such a 
population so they take that tact.  Our world has been run for quite 
some time by a criminal mindset.

Ask Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs about their criminal activities and 
he will tell you "it is just doing business."

On 08/03/2013 01:08 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
> Bhairitu,
>
> Okay, tell us:  if you had Snowden's access and his computer-savvy, could you 
> write a script in about 15 minutes that would:
>
> 1.  Find the rich people.
> 2.  Eavesdrop on them with software to filter out those who are investing 
> regularly in the markets.
> 3.  See real-time trends before the buys-and-sells are posted.
> 4.  Make vast profits exploiting the markets with the Ultimate Bucket Shop 
> Tool.
>
> I think your answer will be yes (with maybe a few quibbles.)
>
> If so, given that they say there are ONE MILLION "snowdens" with such powers, 
> how could anyone reasonably expect that that many sysops are all certain to 
> be sane, moral, and legal?
>
> Your answer:  maybe 98% -- right?
>
> We're all being fucked by invisible dicks, right?
>
> Edg
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 08/03/2013 11:25 AM, emptybill wrote:
>>> Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex
>>>
>>> by Chriss W. Street
>>>   1 Aug 2013
>>>
>>> Unburdened by the Constitutional requirement to obtain a search warrant,
>>> those nice people at the National Security Agency (NSA) have teamed with
>>> Apple, Google and Microsoft to take time out of their busy day to
>>> capture all your party pictures from college, intimate letters with your
>>> lover and financial activities of your business in order to build a
>>> "permanent file" for leverage against you at a later date.
>>>
>>> These are just the latest depressing revelations about the rise of the
>>> military-industrial complex from whistleblower/traitor Edward Snowden as
>>> he accepted political asylum in Russia today.
>>>
>>> Snowden's latest bombshell, via Glenn Greenwald at the UK Guardian
>>> >> ine-data> , is the outing of the NSA's XKeyscore software that is
>>> vacuuming up "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet."
>>> The top secret program allows civilian contractors in the U.S. to troll
>>> vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing
>>> histories of millions of individuals around the world.
>>>
>>> The NSA boasts in training materials that XKeyscore is its
>>> "widest-reaching" system for developing intelligence from the Internet.
>>>
>>> Snowden was already the "most wanted person on earth", but with his
>>> newly-awarded legal status in Russia he cannot be legally handed over or
>>> kidnapped by the CIA. Snowden remains a very "marked man," and seems to
>>> need to stay in the public eye to avoid accidentally being assassinated
>>> in some lonely hideout. Consequently,he will likely continue to talk to
>>> the international press and appears to have more information for future
>>> release.
>>>
>>> Snowden's latest revelations will also add fuel to the intense political
>>> revulsion to Obama's 18-to-29-year-old voting bloc that was the key to
>>> miraculous reelection in the face of the worst economic performance
>>> since President Herbert Hoover. This group has already dropped support
>>> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex

[Duveyoung]

Bhairitu,

Okay, tell us:  if you had Snowden's access and his computer-savvy, could you 
write a script in about 15 minutes that would:

1.  Find the rich people.
2.  Eavesdrop on them with software to filter out those who are investing 
regularly in the markets.
3.  See real-time trends before the buys-and-sells are posted.
4.  Make vast profits exploiting the markets with the Ultimate Bucket Shop Tool.

I think your answer will be yes (with maybe a few quibbles.)

If so, given that they say there are ONE MILLION "snowdens" with such powers, 
how could anyone reasonably expect that that many sysops are all certain to be 
sane, moral, and legal?  

Your answer:  maybe 98% -- right?

We're all being fucked by invisible dicks, right?

Edg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2013 11:25 AM, emptybill wrote:
> > Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex
> >
> > by Chriss W. Street
> >   1 Aug 2013
> >
> > Unburdened by the Constitutional requirement to obtain a search warrant,
> > those nice people at the National Security Agency (NSA) have teamed with
> > Apple, Google and Microsoft to take time out of their busy day to
> > capture all your party pictures from college, intimate letters with your
> > lover and financial activities of your business in order to build a
> > "permanent file" for leverage against you at a later date.
> >
> > These are just the latest depressing revelations about the rise of the
> > military-industrial complex from whistleblower/traitor Edward Snowden as
> > he accepted political asylum in Russia today.
> >
> > Snowden's latest bombshell, via Glenn Greenwald at the UK Guardian
> >  > ine-data> , is the outing of the NSA's XKeyscore software that is
> > vacuuming up "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet."
> > The top secret program allows civilian contractors in the U.S. to troll
> > vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing
> > histories of millions of individuals around the world.
> >
> > The NSA boasts in training materials that XKeyscore is its
> > "widest-reaching" system for developing intelligence from the Internet.
> >
> > Snowden was already the "most wanted person on earth", but with his
> > newly-awarded legal status in Russia he cannot be legally handed over or
> > kidnapped by the CIA. Snowden remains a very "marked man," and seems to
> > need to stay in the public eye to avoid accidentally being assassinated
> > in some lonely hideout. Consequently,he will likely continue to talk to
> > the international press and appears to have more information for future
> > release.
> >
> > Snowden's latest revelations will also add fuel to the intense political
> > revulsion to Obama's 18-to-29-year-old voting bloc that was the key to
> > miraculous reelection in the face of the worst economic performance
> > since President Herbert Hoover. This group has already dropped support
> > for Obama by a stunning 17% over the last seven weeks as Snowden
> > informed them that when they look at their cell phone, Big Brother is
> > looking at them.
> >
> > The timing of the Snowden release came the morning after senior
> > intelligence officials testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee on
> > Wednesday and released formally classified documents in response to
> > earlier Snowden interviews by the Guardian.  The testimony essentially
> > admitted that the FISA Surveillance Court that supposedly assures
> > Constitutional Fourth Amendment prohibition against unreasonable
> > searches and seizures without "probable cause" does not apply to cell
> > phones, computers and all online activity.
> >
> > The Obama administration, Intelligence Committee members and the NSA
> > yesterday continued to vehemently deny Snowden's most controversial
> > statement that: "I, sitting at my desk could wiretap anyone, from you or
> > your accountant, to a federal judge or even the president, if I had a
> > personal email." But Snowden's disclosures this morning seem to prove he
> > and thousands of other NSA contractors could wiretap any American.
> >
> > But the training materials for XKeyscore detail how analysts can use it
> > to mine enormous agency databases by filling in a short "on-screen form
> > giving only a broad justification for the search", without obtaining a
> > warrant from a judge.  XKeyscore then provides the technological
> > capability that once the NSA has the "metadata" of email or IP address
> > to perform Digital Network Intelligence (DNI) covering all forms of
> > electronic communications. Given that Apple, Google, Microsoft and
> > others have already admitted to providing the NSA with email and IP
> > addresses, that explains how XKeyscore was able to collected and store
> > at least 41 billion total records in a 30 day period during last year.
> >
> > The N