[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Judy for the record, your objections to my other post > > > were either based on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-17 Thread feste37
It was Alex not me who made most of those specific points. I'm not sure what building you are referring to that the DAC wanted to erect in its place, since no building has replaced it. It didn't really make economic sense for the university to keep pouring money into a shifting, sinking building

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-17 Thread hopintopin
@ "feste37": Sorry, but this is what people have been complaining about. Those in the TMO believe everything they are told. To completely re-roof a building the size of the chapel, especially at the time it was supposed to have been re-roofed, would not have cost $100,000. Foundation repairs mig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: (snip) > One of the biggest problems of discussing Maharishi's teaching > with Judy is that she lacks the full context of it because she > was not trained in it. She did not sit through the 696 hours > of instruction including a mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:27 PM, curtisdeltablues < curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > It's not benign, it's a form of cheating. (Your purported > > explanation above, BTW, *is an example of it*.) I've > > nev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > It's not benign, it's a form of cheating. (Your purported > > explanation above, BTW, *is an example of it*.) I've > > never seen anybody, here or anywher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > It's not benign, it's a form of cheating. (Your purported > explanation above, BTW, *is an example of it*.) I've > never seen anybody, here or anywhere else, who does what > you do as a tactic to skew arguments your way. It's > de

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Judy for the record, your objections to my other post > > > were either based on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 Me: > > Sometimes you post links to music and often combine it with a "your music has > poopy pants" swipe at me. > Nabbie: It's understandable that you become upset when your howling in the streets are posted here from youtube side b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Ha-Ha! I recalled something like that after I posted. So, you only top > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Judy for the record, your objections to my other post > > were either based on your lack of familiarity with > > Maharishi's experiential goals for his programs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > Teachers do not make the best practitioners or necessarily garner bet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > (snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread doctordumbass
Yeah, the whole "I am enlightened" thing really bugs you, huh? It is not something I mention, except to both state that it is possible, and not lifetimes away, or particularly complex, and to disturb those like you, living in a dream. There is a fear and mystique most people associate with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Like I said, beliefs are bad news. Yeah, I am an > experience guy. Glad you got that. ZERO experience > equals ZERO credibility. This explains why no one on this forum believes that you are enlightened. You clearly have none of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > (snip> > > I see traditional systems as an attempt to define that > > mystery within their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread doctordumbass
"And I'm sorry that I don't believe that you have to watch out with the powers of your magical fulfillment of desires because things can get out of hand." Like I said, beliefs are bad news. Yeah, I am an experience guy. Glad you got that. ZERO experience equals ZERO credibility. I sincerely hope

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > snip > > Teachers do not make the best practitioners or necessarily garner better > results from practicing what they teach. For example, there are plenty of > good r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > This is SUCH bullshit Curtis. You cannot both denigrate TM, calling it > unknown in terms of benefit, which destroys its place alongside any > legitimate discipline, and at the same time claim that Barry is somehow > anointed by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread doctordumbass
This is SUCH bullshit Curtis. You cannot both denigrate TM, calling it unknown in terms of benefit, which destroys its place alongside any legitimate discipline, and at the same time claim that Barry is somehow anointed by his extra knowledge, of it - something that, according to you, has no val

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Ha-Ha! I recalled something like that after I posted. So, you only top > > Barry's zero TM meditations by twenty thousand, or so. A pretty impressive > > delta

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Ha-Ha! I recalled something like that after I posted. So, you only top > > > Barry'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Ha-Ha! I recalled something like that after I posted. So, you only top > > Barry's zero TM meditations by twenty thousand, or so. A pretty impressive > > de

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Ha-Ha! I recalled something like that after I posted. So, you only top > Barry's zero TM meditations by twenty thousand, or so. A pretty impressive > delta, regardless. Let's watch Curtis wriggle, shall we? Indeed. To sugg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread doctordumbass
Ha-Ha! I recalled something like that after I posted. So, you only top Barry's zero TM meditations by twenty thousand, or so. A pretty impressive delta, regardless. Let's watch Curtis wriggle, shall we? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > "This is compared to [Judy's] nemesis Barry who was not only certified to > teach it, but promoted through the ranks to supervise other teacher's > presentation of the programs." > > Your statement above, Curtis, is both disin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > EM: Interesting. Judy may disagree with you here also - > > but I don't know for sure, as it is outside my realm of > > experience. Smiley face. > > Judy's view of what I write is too agenda driven to be a > reliable refl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Judy for the record, your objections to my other post > were either based on your lack of familiarity with > Maharishi's experiential goals for his programs beyond > the beginner level of instruction, (never attended an > experie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread doctordumbass
"This is compared to [Judy's] nemesis Barry who was not only certified to teach it, but promoted through the ranks to supervise other teacher's presentation of the programs." Your statement above, Curtis, is both disingenuous, and pretty arrogant. Doesn't begin to approach the standards of your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread Emily Reyn
otta get back to the "real" world.  Smile.  Signing off, Emily > > From: curtisdeltablues >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:23 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Most of what you say here is irrelevant, having much more to do with your > > inner story, than any tangible effects, pro or con, regarding meditation. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: (snip> > I see traditional systems as an attempt to define that > mystery within their POV. I believe it is premature to > buy into that. Not to ignore their in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Most of what you say here is irrelevant, having much more to do with your > inner story, than any tangible effects, pro or con, regarding meditation. > > Anything we appropriate for our lives, appears to have a benefit for us >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread doctordumbass
Most of what you say here is irrelevant, having much more to do with your inner story, than any tangible effects, pro or con, regarding meditation. Anything we appropriate for our lives, appears to have a benefit for us initially. Its continued benefit, or not, can easily be measured. Not by wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > I don't have a view that includes "higher states" as a > useful term anymore. I believe that some states of mind > are more appropriate for different tasks. I view the > shifted states from your usual internal stasis as versi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Excellent response Emily. There is some meat on this bone. > > EM: Nice of you to say Curtis. More than a quick quip, but not much more. I > kno

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy for the record, your objections to my other post were either based on your lack of familiarity with Maharishi's experiential goals for his programs beyond the beginner level of instruction, (never attended an experience grading group), your confusions concerning different aspects of the tea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-12 Thread emilymae.reyn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Excellent response Emily. There is some meat on this bone. EM: Nice of you to say Curtis. More than a quick quip, but not much more. I know little about meditation states and I am an escape artist, when it comes to realit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-11 Thread authfriend
Curtis, for the record, while there's a lot in this post I *disagree* with rather strongly, there isn't a thing in it that I object to the way I did with your other post. As far as I'm concerned, no one has any need to cover their ears. You will no doubt continue to insist that I criticized your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Excellent response Emily. There is some meat on this bone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Curtis, I always enjoy what you write - creative writer that you are. > > And, in terms of your POV - I am but a babe in the woods re: your topic and  > I do not have an answe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks Barry. I am not convinced there is not some new information about life contained in these states of mind, I am just not sure how we could know. And as long as those most into it are too convinced to care, this will continue to be a tiny subculture perspective. I am hoping that Sam Harr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Take two:Everything below is my POV

2013-03-11 Thread turquoiseb
Whoa. What he said. Really. That's as clear an exposition of it as I've ever heard here, Curtis. Deep bow. I was particularly fond of "People who are naturally creative continue to be as they meditate, even as they attribute it to their practice, and boring people who are not creative are just