Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
If you know what your are doing browsers like Firefox provide the option to 'View Page Source' and you could nice and neatly extract what you want. On 12/19/2012 10:59 AM, Buck wrote: > Gawd Dang it. I got to go to meetings about the 'numbers cliff' we are going > over with the Domes and wanted to present the petition that was posted way > back in FFL post 3811. Evidently the text of the petition pasted in that > post was bracketed by arrows that yahoo is no longer reading. Damn. > It was post 3811, back on Dec 31, 2002. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > Can anybody extract that text now? I'd like to read it sooner than waiting > for yahoo later to figure it out. > Thanks in advance, > -Buck > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 12/18/2012 03:41 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: >>> Friends who are visiting worked at Microsoft and found their biggest problem programmers were the ones with.. computer science degrees. They tended to create grandiose solutions for stuff that didn't need it. Probably the same at Yahoo. >>> Stop it Uncle Barry - I may be grandiose in my personal life but I always >>> strive to make sure my code is compact and efficient. Though I don't have >>> to program much as a database administrator I have done lot of coding in >>> Perl and Shell. >>> >> Ravi, you seem to be suffering Barry-Barry. I'm Barry2 or Bhairitu >> because my other handle on alt.meditation.transcendental was Barry and >> Wright's was Uncle Tantra. Blame Willy who couldn't keep his Barrys >> straight. So I created Bhairitu as homonym for Barry2. So "Uncle >> Barry" is your invention. >> >> And do you have a computer science degree? I'm not saying that ALL >> comscis are terrible programmers but in some situations it can be >> someone with the degree who is messing up more than one without it. >> >> Computer programming is more an art than a science. It is creative. >> Like music you have to have a talent for it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
Gawd Dang it. I got to go to meetings about the 'numbers cliff' we are going over with the Domes and wanted to present the petition that was posted way back in FFL post 3811. Evidently the text of the petition pasted in that post was bracketed by arrows that yahoo is no longer reading. Damn. It was post 3811, back on Dec 31, 2002. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 Can anybody extract that text now? I'd like to read it sooner than waiting for yahoo later to figure it out. Thanks in advance, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 12/18/2012 03:41 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> Friends who are visiting worked at Microsoft and found their biggest > >> problem programmers were the ones with.. computer science degrees. > >> They tended to create grandiose solutions for stuff that didn't need > >> it. Probably the same at Yahoo. > >> > > Stop it Uncle Barry - I may be grandiose in my personal life but I always > > strive to make sure my code is compact and efficient. Though I don't have > > to program much as a database administrator I have done lot of coding in > > Perl and Shell. > > > > Ravi, you seem to be suffering Barry-Barry. I'm Barry2 or Bhairitu > because my other handle on alt.meditation.transcendental was Barry and > Wright's was Uncle Tantra. Blame Willy who couldn't keep his Barrys > straight. So I created Bhairitu as homonym for Barry2. So "Uncle > Barry" is your invention. > > And do you have a computer science degree? I'm not saying that ALL > comscis are terrible programmers but in some situations it can be > someone with the degree who is messing up more than one without it. > > Computer programming is more an art than a science. It is creative. > Like music you have to have a talent for it. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > ** > > > On 12/18/2012 03:41 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bhairitu > wrote: > > > >> Friends who are visiting worked at Microsoft and found their biggest > >> problem programmers were the ones with.. computer science degrees. > >> They tended to create grandiose solutions for stuff that didn't need > >> it. Probably the same at Yahoo. > >> > > Stop it Uncle Barry - I may be grandiose in my personal life but I always > > strive to make sure my code is compact and efficient. Though I don't have > > to program much as a database administrator I have done lot of coding in > > Perl and Shell. > > > > Ravi, you seem to be suffering Barry-Barry. I'm Barry2 or Bhairitu > because my other handle on alt.meditation.transcendental was Barry and > Wright's was Uncle Tantra. Blame Willy who couldn't keep his Barrys > straight. So I created Bhairitu as homonym for Barry2. So "Uncle > Barry" is your invention. > > And do you have a computer science degree? I'm not saying that ALL > comscis are terrible programmers but in some situations it can be > someone with the degree who is messing up more than one without it. > > Computer programming is more an art than a science. It is creative. > Like music you have to have a talent for it. > No confusion Barryji - I was addressing you as Uncle Barry - the other Barry, Mr. Wright is Barry baby or King Baby for me. You are totally right - I enjoy my work, my programming - lot of people complain about work stress and that's always been an alien beast to me. Anyway yeah I'm a Computer Science graduate and you are right - it is an art and you need to have talent for it and being a graduate is not related to my style of work. I just felt like adding in my two cents and I did. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
On 12/18/2012 03:41 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> Friends who are visiting worked at Microsoft and found their biggest >> problem programmers were the ones with.. computer science degrees. >> They tended to create grandiose solutions for stuff that didn't need >> it. Probably the same at Yahoo. >> > Stop it Uncle Barry - I may be grandiose in my personal life but I always > strive to make sure my code is compact and efficient. Though I don't have > to program much as a database administrator I have done lot of coding in > Perl and Shell. > Ravi, you seem to be suffering Barry-Barry. I'm Barry2 or Bhairitu because my other handle on alt.meditation.transcendental was Barry and Wright's was Uncle Tantra. Blame Willy who couldn't keep his Barrys straight. So I created Bhairitu as homonym for Barry2. So "Uncle Barry" is your invention. And do you have a computer science degree? I'm not saying that ALL comscis are terrible programmers but in some situations it can be someone with the degree who is messing up more than one without it. Computer programming is more an art than a science. It is creative. Like music you have to have a talent for it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > Friends who are visiting worked at Microsoft and found their biggest > problem programmers were the ones with.. computer science degrees. > They tended to create grandiose solutions for stuff that didn't need > it. Probably the same at Yahoo. > Stop it Uncle Barry - I may be grandiose in my personal life but I always strive to make sure my code is compact and efficient. Though I don't have to program much as a database administrator I have done lot of coding in Perl and Shell.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
On 12/18/2012 12:52 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > } It's [the Yahoo Web Viewer fuckup] because Yahoo has > } switched from HTML to THCML, a browser scripting language. > > I honestly don't know the tech behind this, but if > THCML is so backwards that it's not HTML-backwards- > compatible, I think there may be a little too much > THC in the mix. :-) Of course, THC-ML was a joke. But I'm sure they would love to find a way to make it though. :-D Friends who are visiting worked at Microsoft and found their biggest problem programmers were the ones with.. computer science degrees. They tended to create grandiose solutions for stuff that didn't need it. Probably the same at Yahoo.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: } It's [the Yahoo Web Viewer fuckup] because Yahoo has } switched from HTML to THCML, a browser scripting language. I honestly don't know the tech behind this, but if THCML is so backwards that it's not HTML-backwards- compatible, I think there may be a little too much THC in the mix. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARRY! Many, many happy returns. Just as a heads-up, the Web Viewer for Fairfield Life at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ seems to have gone all wonky in celebration of my birthday. :-) What seems to be happening is that the algorithm that allows it to repost past conversation when replying to a post has lost its mind, and now stops after "- In" and leaving nothing following that. All I'm seeing in such posts is whatever is "top posted" in reply, BEFORE any previous comments. I've checked, and it's happening on other Yahoo groups as well, not just on FFL alone, so get over any "We're so important that someone must be persecuting us" paranoid fantasies you might have been imagining, and maybe just adapt to the reality of Now until the Incredibly Bad Programmers at Yahoo get their acts together and fix it. That is, if you have something you'd like others to see (at least those who use the Web Viewer to read FFL, anyway), it might be a good idea to do "top posting" only for a while. In other words, don't count on either previous comments in the thread showing up in your Reply, or any comments you feel the need to intersperse between them, in a feverish desire to establish dominance, craft the Perfect Putdown, or just be a wise-ass. ( Then again, for all I know this may only be happen- ing on Yahoo's Euro servers and your Web Viewers are working fine...if so, ignore this suggestion as Just Another Lie from the Evil Troika Of Evil. :-) The way I see things, there is an "up side" to every- thing, so the "up side" of this situation is that the All-Powerful Laws Of Nature have gotten good and fed up with all of the obsessing on the past and what was said in the past here on Fairfield Life, and are *forcing* us to live in the present. This is to give those who are never likely to ever achieve this "living in the present" state of attention on their own a "Taste Of Nowtopia" for the holidays. Think of it as an opportunity. Instead of being stuck in reactive mode and only being able to say stuff in response to what someone else said, until Yahoo (or the All Powerful Laws Of Nature) fix things, you now have the opportunity to think of something of your OWN to say. I know that this might be scary for some here, but give it a try...you might like it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
Yep, quoting is totally hosed. How curiously unlike Yahoo to have something screwed up like that... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: ] ] For the record, "Never mind." Whatever made the Web ] ] Viewer all wonky seems to have been fixed now. Even ] ] old post that refused to display are now working. ] ] I guess they got the coffee machine in the Yahoo ] ] programmers' office working again. :-) ] ] Om, if you were truly living in tune with all the Laws of ] Nature, i.e., living in Fairfield Iowa, you'd have slept ] through all that. On the other hand, if I were living in Fairfield, I'd have slept through *life*, too. :-) It appears that they've gotten the URL thingy working again, but not the ability to properly quote past text or handle pointy brackets. I'm using square brackets above to see how they do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: ] (-: and can't help but add even tho it's Turq's birthday ] or the day after or something, that what also happened ] during the night is that Mars went into exaltation. ] That's bound to help computers, mechanical devices, ] young men, etc. With all due respect, Share (that is to say, none) it seems to me that you're trying to say that because Mars did something-or-other *normal* that is supposed to be good for computers, that's why they fucked up last night. Did I get that right? :-) It seems to me that citing astrological/jyotishological BS to explain everyday happenings *after the fact* is almost as nonsensical as quoting anything said on the Batgap forum as if it were meaningful. This forum never ceases to amaze me. But not necessarily in the same ways it never ceases to amaze the easily- dazzled-by-bullshit crowd. From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: For the record, "Never mind." Whatever made the Web Viewer all wonky seems to have been fixed now. Even old post that refused to display are now working. I guess they got the coffee machine in the Yahoo programmers' office working again. :-) Om, if you were truly living in tune with all the Laws of Nature, i.e., living in Fairfield Iowa, you'd have slept through all that. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: ] ] For the record, "Never mind." Whatever made the Web ] ] Viewer all wonky seems to have been fixed now. Even ] ] old post that refused to display are now working. ] ] I guess they got the coffee machine in the Yahoo ] ] programmers' office working again. :-) ] ] Om, if you were truly living in tune with all the Laws of ] Nature, i.e., living in Fairfield Iowa, you'd have slept ] through all that. On the other hand, if I were living in Fairfield, I'd have slept through *life*, too. :-) It appears that they've gotten the URL thingy working again, but not the ability to properly quote past text or handle pointy brackets. I'm using square brackets above to see how they do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
(-: and can't help but add even tho it's Turq's birthday or the day after or something, that what also happened during the night is that Mars went into exaltation. That's bound to help computers, mechanical devices, young men, etc. From: Alex Stanley To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > For the record, "Never mind." Whatever made the Web > Viewer all wonky seems to have been fixed now. Even > old post that refused to display are now working. > I guess they got the coffee machine in the Yahoo > programmers' office working again. :-) Om, if you were truly living in tune with all the Laws of Nature, i.e., living in Fairfield Iowa, you'd have slept through all that. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > For the record, "Never mind." Whatever made the Web > Viewer all wonky seems to have been fixed now. Even > old post that refused to display are now working. > I guess they got the coffee machine in the Yahoo > programmers' office working again. :-) Om, if you were truly living in tune with all the Laws of Nature, i.e., living in Fairfield Iowa, you'd have slept through all that. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
For the record, "Never mind." Whatever made the Web Viewer all wonky seems to have been fixed now. Even old post that refused to display are now working. I guess they got the coffee machine in the Yahoo programmers' office working again. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Just as a heads-up, the Web Viewer for Fairfield Life at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ seems to have gone all wonky in celebration of my birthday. :-) What seems to be happening is that the algorithm that allows it to repost past conversation when replying to a post has lost its mind, and now stops after "- In" and leaving nothing following that. All I'm seeing in such posts is whatever is "top posted" in reply, BEFORE any previous comments. I've checked, and it's happening on other Yahoo groups as well, not just on FFL alone, so get over any "We're so important that someone must be persecuting us" paranoid fantasies you might have been imagining, and maybe just adapt to the reality of Now until the Incredibly Bad Programmers at Yahoo get their acts together and fix it. That is, if you have something you'd like others to see (at least those who use the Web Viewer to read FFL, anyway), it might be a good idea to do "top posting" only for a while. In other words, don't count on either previous comments in the thread showing up in your Reply, or any comments you feel the need to intersperse between them, in a feverish desire to establish dominance, craft the Perfect Putdown, or just be a wise-ass. ( Then again, for all I know this may only be happen- ing on Yahoo's Euro servers and your Web Viewers are working fine...if so, ignore this suggestion as Just Another Lie from the Evil Troika Of Evil. :-) The way I see things, there is an "up side" to every- thing, so the "up side" of this situation is that the All-Powerful Laws Of Nature have gotten good and fed up with all of the obsessing on the past and what was said in the past here on Fairfield Life, and are *forcing* us to live in the present. This is to give those who are never likely to ever achieve this "living in the present" state of attention on their own a "Taste Of Nowtopia" for the holidays. Think of it as an opportunity. Instead of being stuck in reactive mode and only being able to say stuff in response to what someone else said, until Yahoo (or the All Powerful Laws Of Nature) fix things, you now have the opportunity to think of something of your OWN to say. I know that this might be scary for some here, but give it a try...you might like it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo Web Viewer is in "Be Here Now" mode
Just to repost my first theory, with the offending URLs and pointy brackets deleted, to see if I was right... --- turquoiseb wrote: Just as a heads-up, the Web Viewer for Fairfield Life seems to have gone all wonky in celebration of my birthday. What seems to be happening is that the algorithm that allows it to repost past conversation when replying to a post has lost its mind, and now stops after "- In" and leaving nothing following that. All I'm seeing in such posts is whatever is "top posted" in reply, BEFORE any previous comments. I've checked, and it's happening on other Yahoo groups as well, not just on FFL alone, so get over any "We're so important that someone must be persecuting us" paranoid fantasies you might have been imagining, and maybe just adapt to the reality of Now until the Incredibly Bad Programmers at Yahoo get their acts together and fix it. That is, if you have something you'd like others to see (at least those who use the Web Viewer to read FFL, anyway), it might be a good idea to do "top posting" only for a while. In other words, don't count on either previous comments in the thread showing up in your Reply, or any comments you feel the need to intersperse between them, in a feverish desire to establish dominance, craft the Perfect Putdown, or just be a wise-ass. ( Then again, for all I know this may only be happen- ing on Yahoo's Euro servers and your Web Viewers are working fine...if so, ignore this suggestion as Just Another Lie from the Evil Troika Of Evil. The way I see things, there is an "up side" to every- thing, so the "up side" of this situation is that the All-Powerful Laws Of Nature have gotten good and fed up with all of the obsessing on the past and what was said in the past here on Fairfield Life, and are *forcing* us to live in the present. This is to give those who are never likely to ever achieve this "living in the present" state of attention on their own a "Taste Of Nowtopia" for the holidays. Think of it as an opportunity. Instead of being stuck in reactive mode and only being able to say stuff in response to what someone else said, until Yahoo (or the All Powerful Laws Of Nature) fix things, you now have the opportunity to think of something of your OWN to say. I know that this might be scary for some here, but give it a try...you might like it.
