[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
>Perhaps he regrets that the TMO has gone the direction that it has, but he's > pretty good at accepting what is, so the word "regret" probably wouldn't > apply. He's walking the walk. It's called equanimity. lurk > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > > > > > > all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > > > > > > pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > > > > > > > > > As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to > > yesterday) > > > put > > > > it, "A > > > > > slow, well-deserved death." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that > way. > > > > > > > > > > You fucking hypocrite! > > > > > > You post thousands of time here defending TM and you don't even > > > practise it regularly! > > > > > > And yet here I am -- a critic of the TMO (and, hopefully, a > > > constructive and positive critic!) -- a practitioner of TM who > does > > > it without fail twice a day for the past 33 years... > > > > > > > Why are you so angry? > > > > I don't like hypocrites or bullshit artists. > So which am I? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > > > > > all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > > > > > pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > > > > > > > As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to > yesterday) > > put > > > it, "A > > > > slow, well-deserved death." > > > > > > > > > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. > > > > > > > You fucking hypocrite! > > > > You post thousands of time here defending TM and you don't even > > practise it regularly! > > > > And yet here I am -- a critic of the TMO (and, hopefully, a > > constructive and positive critic!) -- a practitioner of TM who does > > it without fail twice a day for the past 33 years... > > > > Why are you so angry? > I don't like hypocrites or bullshit artists. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > > > > all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > > > > pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > > > > > As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to yesterday) > put > > it, "A > > > slow, well-deserved death." > > > > > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. > > > > You fucking hypocrite! > > You post thousands of time here defending TM and you don't even > practise it regularly! > > And yet here I am -- a critic of the TMO (and, hopefully, a > constructive and positive critic!) -- a practitioner of TM who does > it without fail twice a day for the past 33 years... > Why are you so angry? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > > > all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > > > pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > > > As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to yesterday) put > it, "A > > slow, well-deserved death." > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. > You fucking hypocrite! You post thousands of time here defending TM and you don't even practise it regularly! And yet here I am -- a critic of the TMO (and, hopefully, a constructive and positive critic!) -- a practitioner of TM who does it without fail twice a day for the past 33 years... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > wrote: > > > > > > on 3/28/06 9:45 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > > Archer > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> It's just been a long, protracted death, > > that's > > > >>> all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a > > Shakes- > > > >>> pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > > >> > > > >> As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I > > alluded to yesterday) > > put > > > > it, "A > > > >> slow, well-deserved death." > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time > > would feel that way. > > > > > > He's a very happy person, and doesn't regret time > > spent in the TMO. > > He just > > > feels it's digging its own grave. > > > > > > > "Well-deserved death" doesn't sound like he has no > > regrets. > > Perhaps the person having the experience is in a > better position to articulate the experience than > someone else! > Or perhaps he is in denial about his own bitterness towards the TMO and it shows up in his mutually contradictory remarks? One doesn't usually refer to an organization's "well-deserved death" if one has no regrets about participation in said organization. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
on 3/28/06 9:55 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. >> >> He's a very happy person, and doesn't regret time spent in the TMO. > He just >> feels it's digging its own grave. >> > > "Well-deserved death" doesn't sound like he has no regrets. Perhaps he regrets that the TMO has gone the direction that it has, but he's pretty good at accepting what is, so the word "regret" probably wouldn't apply. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > on 3/28/06 9:45 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > Archer > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>> > > >>> It's just been a long, protracted death, > that's > > >>> all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a > Shakes- > > >>> pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > >> > > >> As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I > alluded to yesterday) > put > > > it, "A > > >> slow, well-deserved death." > > >> > > > > > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time > would feel that way. > > > > He's a very happy person, and doesn't regret time > spent in the TMO. > He just > > feels it's digging its own grave. > > > > "Well-deserved death" doesn't sound like he has no > regrets. Perhaps the person having the experience is in a better position to articulate the experience than someone else! > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/28/06 9:45 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > >> > >> on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > >>> all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > >>> pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > >> > >> As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to yesterday) put > > it, "A > >> slow, well-deserved death." > >> > > > > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. > > He's a very happy person, and doesn't regret time spent in the TMO. He just > feels it's digging its own grave. > "Well-deserved death" doesn't sound like he has no regrets. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
on 3/28/06 9:45 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> It's just been a long, protracted death, that's >>> all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- >>> pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) >> >> As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to yesterday) put > it, "A >> slow, well-deserved death." >> > > > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. He's a very happy person, and doesn't regret time spent in the TMO. He just feels it's digging its own grave. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > > all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > > pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) > > As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to yesterday) put it, "A > slow, well-deserved death." > How sad that someone who spent so much time would feel that way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > > wrote: > > > > > From a friend: > > > > > Dear Rick > > > > > snip > > > > > but we must remember > > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > > 30 years. > > > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > > "master" is. > > > > LOL. I know stuff YOU don't know... > > > > Pathetic, Unc. > > Almost sounds... > > > > ...*elitist*. > Actually, I meant it literally, but realized it could also be taken the way YOU took it to mean. In this case, *I* was asserting elitist knowledge that i'm sworn to secrecy about, yadda yadda. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
on 3/28/06 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's just been a long, protracted death, that's > all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- > pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) As a Purusha friend of mine (not the one I alluded to yesterday) put it, "A slow, well-deserved death." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
On Mar 27, 2006, at 6:33 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend > half > > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and > people's > > > experiences with it and his movement... > > > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex- > TM > > 12-step group...it just happens those still burning a candle for TM > > and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. > > > Yourself included? Yes I admit that I have no control on whether the mantra comes or the mantra goes...that's a first step. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
> > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you > > > spend half your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his > > > teachings and people's experiences with it and his movement... > > > > I'm fascinated by dying spiritual movements. > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > > That must be why you were already spending half > your days dialoguing on a forum devoted to MMY's > teachings and people's experiences with it and > his movement *back in 1994*, when the movement > was still going strong. > > Try again, Barry. Since I've just ended my self-imposed "test" with regard to your posts, Jude, I think I can afford one quick reply before going back to ignoring you. :-) Anyone who thinks that the the TM organization was "still going strong" in 1994 is just showing the extent of their cult-think. The TMO has been dying since just before the introduction of the siddhis. And I think you'll find that a number of pro-TM folks here agree with me on this. It's just been a long, protracted death, that's all. Sorta like a bad actor stretching a Shakes- pearian death scene out ad nauseum. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > From a friend: > > > > Dear Rick > > > > snip > > > > but we must remember > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > 30 years. > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > "master" is. > > LOL. I know stuff YOU don't know... > > Pathetic, Unc. As pathetic as "We're TMers, so we've learned everything that's worth learning?" :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:28 PM, authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend > half > > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and > people's > > > experiences with it and his movement... > > > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex-TM > > 12-step group... > > Doesn't seem to be working very well for them, though, > does it? Most of them are still blaming the TMO and > MMY instead of taking personal responsibility. I'll admit mine if you admit yours! Is this your shy way of asking if I'll be your sponsor? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's > > experiences with it and his movement... > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex-TM > 12-step group... Doesn't seem to be working very well for them, though, does it? Most of them are still blaming the TMO and MMY instead of taking personal responsibility. it just happens those still burning a candle for TM > and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:12 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend > half > > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and > people's > > > experiences with it and his movement... > > > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex- > TM > > 12-step group...it just happens those still burning a candle for TM > > and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. > > > > Okay, you asked for it, Vaj! > > Ahem, mind telling what each of the 12 steps you refer to are? -): I said like a 12-step group...it would be humorous to list the steps I guess... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > From a friend: > > > > Dear Rick > > > > snip > > > > but we must remember > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > 30 years. > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > "master" is. > > LOL. I know stuff YOU don't know... > > Pathetic, Unc. Almost sounds... ...*elitist*. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's > > experiences with it and his movement... > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex-TM > 12-step group...it just happens those still burning a candle for TM > and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. > ... Don't post things likethat while I'm eating. It makes the keyboard messy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's > > experiences with it and his movement... > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex- TM > 12-step group...it just happens those still burning a candle for TM > and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. > Okay, you asked for it, Vaj! Ahem, mind telling what each of the 12 steps you refer to are? -): To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > From a friend: > > > > Dear Rick > > > > snip > > > > but we must remember > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > 30 years. > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > "master" is. > > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's > experiences with it and his movement... > Noticed that did you... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > From a friend: > > > Dear Rick > > > snip > > > but we must remember > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > It does if you don't know any better. > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > 30 years. > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > "master" is. > LOL. I know stuff YOU don't know... Pathetic, Unc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > From a friend: > > Dear Rick > > snip > > but we must remember > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards > > the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M > > instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that > > disciple has any ego involved. > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for 30 years makes a maharishi? > a spiritual master? Who has gained enlightenment from his 5-7 year program? > I suspect David Lynchis far closer to enlightenment than you are. > What responsibility has ever been shown? For what? > Is asking for your money an example of this? > > What disciples? > Kali yug > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half > > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's > > experiences with it and his movement... > > Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex- TM > 12-step group...it just happens those still burning a candle for TM > and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. > Yourself included? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
On Mar 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half > your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's > experiences with it and his movement... Actually it seems this is a list for ex-TMers in recovery...an ex-TM 12-step group...it just happens those still burning a candle for TM and the TM$P are the loudest and most obsessive posters. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > > wrote: > > > > > From a friend: > > > > > Dear Rick > > > > > snip > > > > > but we must remember > > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > > 30 years. > > > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > > "master" is. > > > > What is your definition? > > I never use the term 'master,' so it wouldn't > come up. If I were trying to come up with a > definition for what I'd consider a happening > spiritual teacher, it would involve one who > was capable of teaching via direct transmission. > That is, being able to give every student the > subjective experience of every state of conscious- > ness he talked about and teach any technique he > knew, all without a word. > > But that's just personal preference. > > > ever > That works- not sure if it contradicts MMY as he is known. Yeah, the term master is more about the student and less about the teacher, eh? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > > "master" is. > > > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you > > spend half your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his > > teachings and people's experiences with it and his movement... > > I'm fascinated by dying spiritual movements. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That must be why you were already spending half your days dialoguing on a forum devoted to MMY's teachings and people's experiences with it and his movement *back in 1994*, when the movement was still going strong. Try again, Barry. I think > you can learn as much (and maybe more) from the ones > who fucked it all up as you can from the ones that > didn't. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > > "master" is. > > > > What is your definition? > > I never use the term 'master,' so it wouldn't > come up. You just used it above, twice. You obviously have some definition of "master" in mind, because you've just told us MMY is a "lame" example of a master. So how were you defining the term when you used it? If I were trying to come up with a > definition for what I'd consider a happening > spiritual teacher, it would involve one who > was capable of teaching via direct transmission. > That is, being able to give every student the > subjective experience of every state of conscious- > ness he talked about and teach any technique he > knew, all without a word. > > But that's just personal preference. > > > ever > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > > wrote: > > > > > From a friend: > > > > > Dear Rick > > > > > snip > > > > > but we must remember > > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > > 30 years. > > > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > > "master" is. > > > > What is your definition? > > I never use the term 'master,' so it wouldn't > come up. If I were trying to come up with a > definition for what I'd consider a happening > spiritual teacher, it would involve one who > was capable of teaching via direct transmission. > That is, being able to give every student the > subjective experience of every state of conscious- > ness he talked about and teach any technique he > knew, all without a word. You may be interested in Swami Muktananda's teaching and his technique of Shaktipat, which does exactly that. Indeed, he describes three types of Shaktipat. > > But that's just personal preference. > > > ever > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > From a friend: > > > > Dear Rick > > > > snip > > > > but we must remember > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > 30 years. > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > "master" is. > > What is your definition? I never use the term 'master,' so it wouldn't come up. If I were trying to come up with a definition for what I'd consider a happening spiritual teacher, it would involve one who was capable of teaching via direct transmission. That is, being able to give every student the subjective experience of every state of conscious- ness he talked about and teach any technique he knew, all without a word. But that's just personal preference. ever Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > From a friend: > > > > Dear Rick > > > > snip > > > > but we must remember > > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > > > It does if you don't know any better. > > > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > > 30 years. > > > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > > "master" is. > > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you > spend half your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his > teachings and people's experiences with it and his movement... I'm fascinated by dying spiritual movements. I think you can learn as much (and maybe more) from the ones who fucked it all up as you can from the ones that didn't. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > From a friend: > > > Dear Rick > > > snip > > > but we must remember > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > It does if you don't know any better. > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > 30 years. > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > "master" is. > Well, he must have had quite an impact on you because you spend half your days dialoging on a forum devoted to his teachings and people's experiences with it and his movement... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > From a friend: > > > Dear Rick > > > snip > > > but we must remember > > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > It does if you don't know any better. > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > 30 years. > > The thing that amazes me is not that people > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > "master" is. > What is your definition? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > From a friend: > > Dear Rick > > snip > > but we must remember > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards > > the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M > > instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that > > disciple has any ego involved. > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for 30 years makes a maharishi? > a spiritual master? Who has gained enlightenment from his 5-7 year program? What a silly question. Think about it for a second: if people who gained enlightenment from TM stepped forward and declared: "I'm enlightened and I became enlightened through TM", well, how would one prove it? Then, how would such individuals be treated? > > What responsibility has ever been shown? > Is asking for your money an example of this? > > What disciples? > Kali yug > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > wrote: > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > > 30 years makes a maharishi? > > It does if you don't know any better. > > It does if you are so incurious as to have been > *satisfied* with that little actual substance in > 30 years. Or, it does if you actually paid attention to what he was saying (which was, of course, far more than just the first verse of Rg Ved), compared it to other teachings, recognized it as significantly more profound, and then found it continually refining, deepening, and expanding over the years in your own experience with the technique his teaching supports. > The thing that amazes me is not that people > consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are > satisfied with such a lame definition of what a > "master" is. Lame is as lame perceives, methinks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > From a friend: > > Dear Rick > > snip > > but we must remember > > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility > > towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That > > may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture > > a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. > > What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for > 30 years makes a maharishi? It does if you don't know any better. It does if you are so incurious as to have been *satisfied* with that little actual substance in 30 years. The thing that amazes me is not that people consider Maharishi a "master," but that they are satisfied with such a lame definition of what a "master" is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
Tsk, tsk, are we unstressing here? Something good must be happening. :) Sal On Mar 27, 2006, at 11:24 AM, brahmachari108 wrote: What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for 30 years makes a maharishi? a spiritual master? Who has gained enlightenment from his 5-7 year program? What responsibility has ever been shown? Is asking for your money an example of this? What disciples?
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From a friend: > Dear Rick > snip > but we must remember > that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards > the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M > instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that > disciple has any ego involved. What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for 30 years makes a maharishi? a spiritual master? Who has gained enlightenment from his 5-7 year program? What responsibility has ever been shown? Is asking for your money an example of this? What disciples? Kali yug To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
