Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/24/2014 7:53 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

>
Awww, I don't think Rick should boot him from FFL. I think he and 
Nabby provide good reminders of what bizarre mind sets TM can lead to. 
Plus, if Rick did kick him off, given his past ass booting the 
Movement gave him for seeing other so called spiritual teachers and 
growing a beard, getting kicked off FFL

>
/Rick is FFL, you idiot! You can't kick off the owner of the group.
>
/

could trigger a major PTSD type meltdown on Buck's part.

>
/So, why would Buck have a major "PTSD type meltdown" just because of 
Rick's //past ass booting the Movement gave him for seeing other so 
called spiritual teachers and growing a beard? You are not even making 
any sense. What are you on today?/

>
I would hate to think of him chasing his sheep around in the pastures 
calling them neganauts and shouting at them for not being more 
respectful of Marshy and Company.

>
/That would make more sense than you chasing your sheep in South 
Carolina, thinking that would affect Buck's sheep up in Iowa. Go figure./

>



*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 2:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq 
and Belief in God is a form of mental illness


I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I 
think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to 
reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling 
Michael a terrorist.


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really 
want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" 
senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than 
criticize the organization they identify with?

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/24/2014 7:03 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I quite agree with what Curtis has said to Buck.  He conveyed clearly.


Now, take a look at your reply.

>
/In psychology this kind of behavior is termed cognitive dissonance - a 
discomfort experienced by an individual who is confronted by new 
information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. You 
can see some clear cases of this in some of the current FFL informants.


For example, you can't run a large business like the IRS with just 200 
employees; you can't hold both a belief in Buddhas and a reincarnating 
Soul Spirit and at the same time be an atheist; you can't sing songs 
written and performed by a believer and make them sound like the devil's 
song; you can't carry on a decent conversation by being biased, putting 
messages into folders and ignoring some; and you can't get people to 
meditate in the domes by calling for an armed attack./

>




Your first reply was reasonable.

But then you display perfectly the characteristic why a member of this 
forum, that you respect, referred to you as an "reaction vampire"


You nailed it.

Maybe one day, you will come to grips with this decidedly unattractive 
trait, instead of attempting to pin this same description on those you 
disagree with.


And just remember, you didn't hear it from me.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 8:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq 
and Belief in God is a form of mental illness


I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I 
think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to 
reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling 
Michael a terrorist.


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really 
want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" 
senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than 
criticize the organization they identify with?


And, as Curtis points out, criticism appearing in a post that *THEY 
freely chose to click on and read*?


It's not as if "Buck" doesn't know ahead of time what he's going to 
find in one of Michael's posts. It's not as if Steve or Ann or Richard 
or any of the other cult whiners don't know what they are going to 
find in the posts that THEY choose to click on and read.


Fuckin' cult whiners. You can always tell when a cult has reached the 
point where it's about to implode when its members have to invent 
"faux outrages" to pretend to be affronted by to maintain the illusion 
of their self importance.





*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" 

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 5:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God 
is a form of mental illness


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of 
your extreme hate


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually 
killing people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with 
ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' 
his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves 
for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their 
very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism 
for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have 
to click on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up 
like you do. This is way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is 
disturbing and it is a creepy reaction to someone with a different POV 
on a movement HE was a part of himself and therefor certainly has a 
legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.


D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to 
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person 
at best yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as 
if someone strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew 
up wo

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm pretty sure that Rick's at the SAND conference. He mentioned it towards the 
end of his latest BATGAP interview. So, go figger, carry on and enjoy!
 

 On Friday, October 24, 2014 7:56 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     Awww, I don't think Rick should boot him from FFL. I think he and Nabby 
provide good reminders of what bizarre mind sets TM can lead to. Plus, if Rick 
did kick him off, given his past ass booting the Movement gave him for seeing 
other so called spiritual teachers and growing a beard, getting kicked off FFL 
could trigger a major PTSD type meltdown on Buck's part. I would hate to think 
of him chasing his sheep around in the pastures calling them neganauts and 
shouting at them for not being more respectful of Marshy and Company.

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief 
in God is a form of mental illness
   
    I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think 
we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is 
so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 

I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 

This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 
 

 From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote :

D: OmNo, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature ofyour 
extreme hate 

M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...
D: and behavior to be like Hamas
M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?

 D: and said I couldempathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS and 
thatlevel of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' his position.Groups 
certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their lifeagainst terrorism 
and attack which may threaten their very existence.You are a good example of 
that attack and terrorism for the TMcommunity. I find you terribly interesting 
in this by example. 

M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with terrorist 
acts of violence against community of people who never have to click on what 
they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is way 
over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.
D: Onceagain in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' toprotect 
themselves individually and their very life to exist as agroup: 

M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.
Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.

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CanadianPrime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament Hill"an 
attack on our values." 
StephenHarper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to"redouble" 
anti-terror efforts."Infact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and 
redouble ourefforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and 
counterthreats and keep Canada safe." 
OmCanada!-Buckin the Dome

mjackson74 writes:
This from the guy who said I  and people like me should be targeted with drone 
strikes.




? “..the role of principle Bar

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This does hi-light a difference between you and the turq, Michael. 

 You are a little more courageous and less petty than I figured.
 

 Yes, the representatives of the different pov's here speak for themselves, and 
others can decide what conclusions to draw.
 

 This faux outrage on Barry's part is always so hilarious.
 

 Yes, Buck you a terrorist is out of line.
 

 But, really, do you think Barry is really concerned about your welfare?
 

 Well, maybe just a little, but the real payoff, the giant payoff for Barry is 
a chance to "get back" at Buck for views that Barry finds so bothersome, this 
little terrorist comment, not withstanding.
 

 I think, really, it points out the pent up frustration, or anger, or something 
Barry has built up.
 

 Again, good luck.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Awww, I don't think Rick should boot him from FFL. I think he and Nabby 
provide good reminders of what bizarre mind sets TM can lead to. Plus, if Rick 
did kick him off, given his past ass booting the Movement gave him for seeing 
other so called spiritual teachers and growing a beard, getting kicked off FFL 
could trigger a major PTSD type meltdown on Buck's part. I would hate to think 
of him chasing his sheep around in the pastures calling them neganauts and 
shouting at them for not being more respectful of Marshy and Company.

 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief 
in God is a form of mental illness
 
 
   I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we 
all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so 
over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 

 

 I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 

 

 This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 
 

 


 From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"  wrote :
 
 D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of your 
extreme hate 

 

 M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...
 

 D: and behavior to be like Hamas
 

 M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?

 

 D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS 
and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' his position. 
Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life against 
terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence. You are a good 
example of that attack and terrorism for the TM community. I find you terribly 
interesting in this by example. 

 

 M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have to click 
on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is 
way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.
 
 
 D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to protect 
themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group: 

 

 M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.

 Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/24/2014 4:49 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Please untwist the panties, boys.


>
/Barry got one of his buttons pushed and his panties got in a big twist. 
Run to Rick, run to Rick!/

>



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I 
think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to 
reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling 
Michael a terrorist.


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really 
want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" 
senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than 
criticize the organization they identify with?



*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" 

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 5:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God 
is a form of mental illness


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of 
your extreme hate


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually 
killing people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with 
ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' 
his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves 
for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their 
very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism 
for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have 
to click on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up 
like you do. This is way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is 
disturbing and it is a creepy reaction to someone with a different POV 
on a movement HE was a part of himself and therefor certainly has a 
legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.


D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to 
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person 
at best yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as 
if someone strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew 
up women, children and men.
Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the 
fragility of a movement who can't take the criticism of someone who 
left the group. I think you missed your cult "Buck", you should have 
been a Scientologist. He didn't misrepresent you, you are comparing 
him to a terrorist group that actually kills people so we are killing 
them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying your comparison, you 
are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual people who 
actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from your 
own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.


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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament 
Hill "an attack on our values."


Stephen Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to 
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.
"In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our 
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter threats 
and keep Canada safe."**


*Om Canada!*
*-Buck in the Dome*


mjackson74 writes:

This from the guy who said I  and people like me should be targeted 
with drone strikes.





? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the 
gusto!”
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that 
make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and 
tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these 
posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply 
lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his 
writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted 
here. It is that simple also.
 I always read the Turq and feel he has a val

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

**

I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I 
think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to 
reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling 
Michael a terrorist.


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really 
want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" 
senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than 
criticize the organization they identify with?

>
On 10/24/2014 2:58 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

>
And, as Curtis points out, criticism appearing in a post that *THEY 
freely chose to click on and read*?

>
/You just told another big fib - you previously claimed not to read 
Buck's messages. In fact, you probably made a filter to send all of 
Buck's messages to a folder called "Farmer." NOW you're saying you 
"freely chose to click on and read " his messages? Don't you just hate 
that when you get into cognitive dissonance in public. Gawwd!/

>


It's not as if "Buck" doesn't know ahead of time what he's going to 
find in one of Michael's posts. It's not as if Steve or Ann or Richard 
or any of the other cult whiners don't know what they are going to 
find in the posts that THEY choose to click on and read.


Fuckin' cult whiners. You can always tell when a cult has reached the 
point where it's about to implode when its members have to invent 
"faux outrages" to pretend to be affronted by to maintain the illusion 
of their self importance.





*From:* "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 5:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God 
is a form of mental illness


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of 
your extreme hate


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually 
killing people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with 
ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' 
his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves 
for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their 
very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism 
for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have 
to click on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up 
like you do. This is way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is 
disturbing and it is a creepy reaction to someone with a different POV 
on a movement HE was a part of himself and therefor certainly has a 
legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.


D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to 
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person 
at best yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as 
if someone strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew 
up women, children and men.
Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the 
fragility of a movement who can't take the criticism of someone who 
left the group. I think you missed your cult "Buck", you should have 
been a Scientologist. He didn't misrepresent you, you are comparing 
him to a terrorist group that actually kills people so we are killing 
them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying your comparison, you 
are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual people who 
actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from your 
own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.


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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament 
Hill "an attack on our values."


Stephen Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to 
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.
"In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our 
efforts... to take all necessar

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/24/2014 1:18 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have.

>
/Now this is funny - a guy that associated my name with "terrorism" and 
"nuking" wants to complain to Rick about Buck.//

//
//This is at least the third time Barry has sent a private email to 
Rick, complaining about something somebody posted. This is just another 
example of Barry being in cognitive dissonance. In fact, it's Barry we 
should be wary of - he obviously hates everyone who believes in God and 
wants to put them away somewhere in an asylum for insane people. Go figure./

>
I think we all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to 
reality, but this is so over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick.


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling 
Michael a terrorist.


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really 
want "Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" 
senility that TMers display when someone does *nothing more* than 
criticize the organization they identify with?



*From:* "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 5:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God 
is a form of mental illness


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of 
your extreme hate


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually 
killing people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with 
ISIS and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' 
his position. Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves 
for their life against terrorism and attack which may threaten their 
very existence. You are a good example of that attack and terrorism 
for the TM community. I find you terribly interesting in this by example.


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have 
to click on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up 
like you do. This is way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is 
disturbing and it is a creepy reaction to someone with a different POV 
on a movement HE was a part of himself and therefor certainly has a 
legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.


D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to 
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group:


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person 
at best yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as 
if someone strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew 
up women, children and men.
Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the 
fragility of a movement who can't take the criticism of someone who 
left the group. I think you missed your cult "Buck", you should have 
been a Scientologist. He didn't misrepresent you, you are comparing 
him to a terrorist group that actually kills people so we are killing 
them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying your comparison, you 
are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual people who 
actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from your 
own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.


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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament 
Hill "an attack on our values."


Stephen Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to 
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.
"In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our 
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter threats 
and keep Canada safe."**


*Om Canada!*
*-Buck in the Dome*


mjackson74 writes:

This from the guy who said I and people like me should be targeted 
with drone strikes.





? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the 
gusto!”
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that 
make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and 
tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger a

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Awww, I don't think Rick should boot him from FFL. I think he and Nabby provide 
good reminders of what bizarre mind sets TM can lead to. Plus, if Rick did kick 
him off, given his past ass booting the Movement gave him for seeing other so 
called spiritual teachers and growing a beard, getting kicked off FFL could 
trigger a major PTSD type meltdown on Buck's part. I would hate to think of him 
chasing his sheep around in the pastures calling them neganauts and shouting at 
them for not being more respectful of Marshy and Company.




 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief 
in God is a form of mental illness
 


  
I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we 
all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so 
over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 





 From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote :



D: Om
No, MJ you misrepresent me here.  I likened you and the nature of
your extreme hate 


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could
empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS and that
level of such threats for instance.  I can 'understand' his position.
Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life
against terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence.
You are a good example of that attack and terrorism for the TM
community.   I find you terribly interesting in this by example. 


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with terrorist 
acts of violence against community of people who never have to click on what 
they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is way 
over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.

D: Once
again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a
group: 


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.

Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.


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Canadian
Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament Hill
"an attack on our values."  

Stephen
Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.  
"In
fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter
threats and keep Canada safe." 

Om
Canada!
-Buck
in the Dome


mjackson74 writes:


This from the guy who said I  and people like me should be targeted with drone 
strikes.





? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” 
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: 
Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to 
apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I quite agree with what Curtis has said to Buck.  He conveyed clearly. 

 Now, take a look at your reply.
 

 Your first reply was reasonable.  
 

 But then you display perfectly the characteristic why a member of this forum, 
that you respect, referred to you as an "reaction vampire" 
 

 You nailed it.
 

 Maybe one day, you will come to grips with this decidedly unattractive trait, 
instead of attempting to pin this same description on those you disagree with.
 

 And just remember, you didn't hear it from me.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief 
in God is a form of mental illness
 
 
   I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we 
all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so 
over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 

 

 I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 

 

 This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 
 
And, as Curtis points out, criticism appearing in a post that *THEY freely 
chose to click on and read*? 
 
It's not as if "Buck" doesn't know ahead of time what he's going to find in one 
of Michael's posts. It's not as if Steve or Ann or Richard or any of the other 
cult whiners don't know what they are going to find in the posts that THEY 
choose to click on and read. 

Fuckin' cult whiners. You can always tell when a cult has reached the point 
where it's about to implode when its members have to invent "faux outrages" to 
pretend to be affronted by to maintain the illusion of their self importance. 


 


 From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"  wrote :
 
 D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of your 
extreme hate 

 

 M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...
 

 D: and behavior to be like Hamas
 

 M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?

 

 D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS 
and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' his position. 
Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life against 
terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence. You are a good 
example of that attack and terrorism for the TM community. I find you terribly 
interesting in this by example. 

 

 M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have to click 
on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is 
way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.
 
 
 D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to protect 
themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group: 

 

 M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.

 Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.

 

 Scientology Top Managers In Action 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG70fhg0wL4. 

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG70fhg0wL4
 
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For licensing / permission to use: Contact - licensing(at)jukinmediadotcom 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Please untwist the panties, boys. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we 
all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so 
over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 

 

 I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 

 

 This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 
 

 From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"  wrote :
 
 D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of your 
extreme hate 

 

 M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...
 

 D: and behavior to be like Hamas
 

 M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?

 

 D: and said I could empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS 
and that level of such threats for instance. I can 'understand' his position. 
Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life against 
terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence. You are a good 
example of that attack and terrorism for the TM community. I find you terribly 
interesting in this by example. 

 

 M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with 
terrorist acts of violence against community of people who never have to click 
on what they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is 
way over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.
 
 
 D: Once again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to protect 
themselves individually and their very life to exist as a group: 

 

 M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.

 Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.

 

 Scientology Top Managers In Action 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG70fhg0wL4. 

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG70fhg0wL4
 
 Scientology Top Managers In Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG70fhg0wL4 
For licensing / permission to use: Contact - licensing(at)jukinmediadotcom 
Three of Scientology's top management personnel ambushing a former member of 
scien...


 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament Hill 
"an attack on our values." 
 
 
 Stephen Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to 
"redouble" anti-terror efforts. 
 "In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our 
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter threats and keep 
Canada safe." 
 
 
 Om Canada!
 -Buck in the Dome
 


 

 mjackson74 writes: 

 This from the guy who said I  and people like me should be targeted with drone 
strikes.

 

 

 

 

 ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” 
 No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: 
Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to 
apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann 
through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in 
Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading 
the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. 
  I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been 
there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and 
now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this 
recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything.
 

 That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it 
often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process 
when she was here. Ann als

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief 
in God is a form of mental illness
 


  
I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we 
all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so 
over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 

And, as Curtis points out, criticism appearing in a post that *THEY freely 
chose to click on and read*? 
 
It's not as if "Buck" doesn't know ahead of time what he's going to find in one 
of Michael's posts. It's not as if Steve or Ann or Richard or any of the other 
cult whiners don't know what they are going to find in the posts that THEY 
choose to click on and read. 

Fuckin' cult whiners. You can always tell when a cult has reached the point 
where it's about to implode when its members have to invent "faux outrages" to 
pretend to be affronted by to maintain the illusion of their self importance. 






 From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote :



D: Om
No, MJ you misrepresent me here.  I likened you and the nature of
your extreme hate 


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could
empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS and that
level of such threats for instance.  I can 'understand' his position.
Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life
against terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence.
You are a good example of that attack and terrorism for the TM
community.   I find you terribly interesting in this by example. 


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with terrorist 
acts of violence against community of people who never have to click on what 
they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is way 
over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.

D: Once
again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a
group: 


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.

Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.


Scientology Top Managers In Action. 

 
   Scientology Top Managers In Action  
For licensing / permission to use: Contact - licensing(at)jukinmediadotcom 
Three of Scientology's top management personnel ambushing a former member of 
scien...  
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Canadian
Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament Hill
"an attack on our values."  

Stephen
Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.  
"In
fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter
threats and keep Canada safe." 

Om
Canada!
-Buck
in the Dome


mjackson74 writes:


This from the guy who said I  and people like me should be targeted with drone 
strikes.





? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” 
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: 
Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, b

Re: [FairfieldLife] ATTENTION RICK -- Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm glad Curtis said something because if he hadn't I would have. I think we 
all know that "Buck" doesn't live anywhere even near to reality, but this is so 
over the top as to have to be dealt with by Rick. 


I think Buck should be thrown off the forum for essentially calling Michael a 
terrorist. 


This cult mentality that he represents is getting scary. Do you really want 
"Buck" to represent the level of paranoia and "them vs. us" senility that TMers 
display when someone does *nothing more* than criticize the organization they 
identify with? 



 From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote :



D: Om
No, MJ you misrepresent me here.  I likened you and the nature of
your extreme hate 


M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here...

D: and behavior to be like Hamas

M: His "behavior is to speak his mind. Hamas's behavior is actually killing 
people. Kinda different don't you think?


D: and said I could
empathize with Obama in his having to dealing with ISIS and that
level of such threats for instance.  I can 'understand' his position.
Groups certainly have some rights to defend themselves for their life
against terrorism and attack which may threaten their very existence.
You are a good example of that attack and terrorism for the TM
community.   I find you terribly interesting in this by example. 


M: I find it interesting that you are connecting his free speech with terrorist 
acts of violence against community of people who never have to click on what 
they say unless they want to to rile themselves up like you do. This is way 
over the line "Buck." The violent imagery is disturbing and it is a creepy 
reaction to someone with a different POV on a movement HE was a part of himself 
and therefor certainly has a legitimate right to his own opinion about it all.

D: Once
again in the news we have an example of  'group coalescing' to
protect themselves individually and their very life to exist as a
group: 


M: So a guy posts a different opinion than you have on a 2000 person at best 
yahoo group and the whole TM movement is rocked to the core as if someone 
strapped on a bomb and walked into a marketplace and blew up women, children 
and men.

Over the line and creepy, not to mention an indictment of the fragility of a 
movement who can't take the criticism of someone who left the group. I think 
you missed your cult "Buck", you should have been a Scientologist. He didn't 
misrepresent you, you are comparing him to a terrorist group that actually 
kills people so we are killing them with drone strikes. You are not qualifying 
your comparison, you are making it plainly. You are also trivializing actual 
people who actually kill people and blow up babies to protect yourself from 
your own choice of reading an opinion you do not share.


Scientology Top Managers In Action. 

 
   Scientology Top Managers In Action  
For licensing / permission to use: Contact - licensing(at)jukinmediadotcom 
Three of Scientology's top management personnel ambushing a former member of 
scien...  
View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo


 

Canadian
Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the events on Parliament Hill
"an attack on our values."  

Stephen
Harper described the attacker as a terrorist and promised to
"redouble" anti-terror efforts.  
"In
fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our
efforts... to take all necessary steps to identify and counter
threats and keep Canada safe." 

Om
Canada!
-Buck
in the Dome


mjackson74 writes:


This from the guy who said I  and people like me should be targeted with drone 
strikes.





? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” 
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: 
Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to 
apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann 
through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in 
Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading 
the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. 
 I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been 
there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and 
now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this 
recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything.

That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it 
often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process 
when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things 
and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks 
and Ann may be prickly towards people at times.  Rick seems to welcome almost 
everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for 
that