Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 3:34 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think she can help herself. > Judy just can't help herself - some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. Years ago, Judy followed me over here from Google Groups - it's like she was stalking me or something. She

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 9:57 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Richard is a troll and says all kinds of things that aren't true or are wildly distorted* > This message contains one falsehood and one character smear: First, calling someone a "troll" makes assumptions about a writer's motives that are impos

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, I don't have what you call an insatiable urge to pander. But I often make conscious choices to say what I like about someone's posts. There's a big difference and it's one you imo cannot see because you are at the other end of the spectrum, tending to be hyper critical. And in this partic

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 9:57 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Carol, I'm not sure you've been around FFL long enough to know that Richard is a troll and says all kinds of things that aren't true or are wildly distorted, as he does in this post. If you ever have a question about the veracity of something h

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 2:38 PM, Share Long wrote: > Are you telling us she's really a computer repair man? > Probably a "computer nerd" - rumor has it that Judy is pretty savvy about computers and computer software. The newest contributors to JK's TM-Free blog are the alias "Michael H. Jackson" and the "

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 12:59 PM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: You always give the knockout punch and seal the argument. > So, let's review what we know: John Knapp got his therapist license revoked for unprofessional behavior with more than one client. One of his clients said she felt like she had been

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Share Long
Richard, I thought Judy was an editor. Are you telling us she's really a computer repair man?! Go figure! On Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:12 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   On 2/16/2014 1:31 PM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: See?, this is exactly the reason you are seen as a grudge >hold

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 1:31 PM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: See?, this is exactly the reason you are seen as a grudge holder here. Was there any need to make that post? Excessive posts clog up the bandwidth and slow down data traffic. ---authfriend wrote: Share to the defense! > We have to put up wit

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/16/2014 10:06 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote: Or are you serious Richard? > Seriously, I feel like I just got mind-fucked again today. It's almost to the point that the button-pushers have taken over the whole newsgroup. All we want to do is meditate twice a day, chat with a few TMers, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Bhairitu
The 50 post limit was stupid. Alex doesn't want to deal with it. It's no problem to ignore the riff raff if you read the group with an email client like Thunderbird. Grown ups don't need no stinkin' post limit. On 02/16/2014 02:15 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: I concur. I find it difficu

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 8:43 PM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote: > > Judy...that is correct. there was no sexual or romantic relationship > between Knapp & I. > > Neither I am aware of any stories regarding sexual abuse and Knapp. > Thanks for all the information. Maybe that impostor "Michael Jackson" was just t

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread authfriend
Share to the defense! << Richard, I admit that your writing style delights me. Even when I don't agree with the content! Go figure! It's just that you almost always sound light hearted about all this stuff. And I thoroughly enjoy how you skip from one topic to the other. Those funny combo he

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Share Long
Richard, I admit that your writing style delights me. Even when I don't agree with the content! Go figure! It's just that you almost always sound light hearted about all this stuff. And I thoroughly enjoy how you skip from one topic to the other. Those funny combo help me be more light hearted a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 7:07 PM, Share Long wrote: > I also want to make the point that Emily posted some definitions of > the term psychological rape so again, I'm quite sure that no one on > FFL thought that I coined the term. > The term "psychological rape" is frequently used in cult awareness discussi

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 11:50 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote: > One of Knapp's former victims responded.."And now we heal." > Well, if the post-trappers and "mental therapists" would stop trying to push our buttons and trying to take over FFL and trying to mentally rape our minds; if they would stop making u

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 11:50 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote: > After the news sank in, I realized I felt like I just wanted to take a > shower and wash it all off. > That's what it feels like alright - except we can't seem to get out of the cesspool. Almost every post sent here goes to shit in a matter on

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread authfriend
Carol, I'm not sure you've been around FFL long enough to know that Richard is a troll and says all kinds of things that aren't true or are wildly distorted, as he does in this post. If you ever have a question about the veracity of something he posts, ask one of the regulars. << Thanks for t

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Dear Dear Awoelflebate and friends, to the 50 post limit I have offered my help with moderating FFL many times and everyone is clearly scared of me taking care of things here. I don't understand people's unfriendliness to my offers. Try as I might to be charismatic here and take some better co

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 11:50 AM, jchwe...@gmail.com wrote: > It was a type of psychological/emotional rape that Knapp exacted upon > more than one person. > Thanks for the information about Knapp. We've been discussing this almost endlessly for months. We just got rid of one "therapist" who came to this

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread authfriend
Actually what I insist is that "holding a grudge" is not an appropriate phrase to describe my attitude toward Barry, because his offenses have been ongoing. That doesn't mean I don't think he's a lying scumbag, however. << I think he enjoys trolling, baiting and getting stalked. You enjoy

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread doctordumbass
Another KEY piece of advice, Share -- DON'T open any emails from Africa, esp. Nigeria - no doubt you'll mortgage your parents house, if you do.:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Please can we ago back to 50 posts a week, it's for your sanity as much as everybody elses I asked for the post limit shortly before Christmas but I was poo-pooed and shot down. I thought I, too, was going to go mad with all of Ricky and

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread jedi_spock
ce it...these two bimbos are the ones who are so easily trolled. They fall for it even when Richand and I *tell* them what we're doing. And they like to characterize *other* people here as stupid. Go figure. :-) :-) :-) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunda

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread authfriend
complain about "trolls," but let's face it...these two bimbos are the ones who are so easily trolled. They fall for it even when Richand and I *tell* them what we're doing. And they like to characterize *other* people here as stupid. Go figure. :-) :-) :-) From: salyavin8

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
d I *tell* them what we're doing. And they like to characterize *other* people here as stupid. Go figure. :-)  :-)  :-) ____ From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-16 Thread salyavin808
Please can we ago back to 50 posts a week, it's for your sanity as much as everybody elses ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Note the phrase, "in Robin's cult," as if it were established fact that he has a cult. He doesn't, of course. But Share didn't choose her words by accid

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
rom Robin). << I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread emilymaenot
ubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
gt; -------------------- On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
gan to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subje

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
hed him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] R

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread emilymaenot
< I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/1

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
troubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
>> ---------------- On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... wrote: >>> >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM >&g

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
o complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: R

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
in). << I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> -

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread emilymaenot
7;s playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogr

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
s on women. >> ---------------- On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread awoelflebater
-------- On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
it, hers was more a matter of genuine psychological rape (as opposed to the kind Share fantasized from Robin). << I read plenty of his stuff and followed his troubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 7:13 PM, Share Long wrote: > Judy, I bet a lot of people on FFL did not even read a lot of those > posts so I very much doubt the validity of your statement that > "everybody here saw what went on between you and Robin." > We saw what was going on between Judy and Robin but most of

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, I bet a lot of people on FFL did not even read a lot of those posts so I very much doubt the validity of your statement that "everybody here saw what went on between you and Robin." On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:48 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   We disagree that they migh

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
roubles when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, au

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread steve.sundur
Sounds like the table's' been set for the next two weeks! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, and has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been (now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 4:47 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: I didn't say anything about how the women Maharishi played around with felt. > There sure are a lot of trolls on FFL today. Go figure. It's a cry for help for sure: A FFL troll disrupting a conversation about the trolls that post to TM-Free. P

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 4:43 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > what do you think Marsh's gals felt when he used 'em - bliss? > Why would you be wanting to know?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
We disagree that they might have found your accusation so impossibly unjustified that they would have become suspicious of anyone who used it. Remember, everybody here saw what went on between you and Robin. << Judy, I find the people on FFL to be intelligent and well read and I highly doubt

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
s happy and all that - but all of them??? >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldL

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
I do on occasion. On Sat, 2/15/14, Richard J. Williams wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 8:54 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
es when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> -------------------- On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfri

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, I find the people on FFL to be intelligent and well read and I highly doubt that anyone here thought I invented the term. Nor do I think they would be suspicious of Carol regardless of what they thought of me. On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:20 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:  

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
The folks here who saw you misuse the term "psychological rape" for your own malign ends might well have thought you invented it and therefore might have been suspicious of Carol's account. I wanted to ensure they didn't make that mistake. << Judy, you are the troll in this situation, for bri

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Judy, you are the troll in this situation, for bringing Robin and me into the thread about Carol and Knapp. On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:00 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, and has not the vaguest notion o

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
Says Xeno the Troll, who is into saying extremely ugly things these days, and has not the vaguest notion of what kind of therapist Robin might have been (now, not 30 years ago). (Ironically, Xeno has convinced himself that he's in a position to advance FFLers' spiritual development by, among oth

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
ne but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> -------------------- On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... wrote: >> >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Li

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
ame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Fairfield

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
Xeno, it was Judy who implied a comparison between Robin and the therapist Knapp. Probably she was just being a troll! On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:48 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six chambers of a revolver, put

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread anartaxius
Ah, if Robin was a therapist, I think it would safer to load all six chambers of a revolver, put it to your head, and pull the trigger.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Share Long
les when patients began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... wrote: > >Subject: Re: [Fairfi

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
ts began to complain - I watched him blame everyone but himself and he certainly did use Marshy's playbook in some respects to get his hands on women. >> On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wr

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2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
riend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM

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2014-02-15 Thread anartaxius
t his hands on women. On Sat, 2/15/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/15/2014 11:16 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *It's excellent news that Knapp will no longer be able to use that license in a professional capacity * > We got rid of John Knapp, now all we have to do is get rid of the impostor Michael Jackson. Maybe MJ could go over to posting with Mike D

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
thfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 15, 2014, 7:15 PM   You didn't know Knapp. He followed his ow

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread authfriend
You didn't know Knapp. He followed his own twisted footsteps. << not surprising that he would eventually follow in his form master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob Fickes >> On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexand

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Jackson
not surprising that he would eventually follow in his form master's foot steps - there are others who have like Bob Fickes On Sat, 2/15/14, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John M. Knapp: Licensing Board Ruling To: