On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:33 AM, do.rflex wrote:
I have experienced Guru Dev visually and telepathically myself. Once I
'heard' him repeating something which I'd never heard before, I
believe it was in Sanskrit - as if an initiation or such. I know other
TM teachers who have had similar
On Feb 8, 2008, at 11:52 AM, do.rflex wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008, at 11:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
I think that John has bought into the propaganda
spread by Nabby and others that you have never
practiced TM or been a TM
On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:37 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think
that it's PERSONAL that Maharishi or any other
NPD spiritual teacher doesn't treat their
students with respect. My feeling is that they
barely even notice that the students are even
THERE.
Very
On Feb 8, 2008, at 9:35 AM, do.rflex wrote:
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On Feb 8, 2008, at 9:01 AM, do.rflex wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008, at 6:39 AM, do.rflex wrote:
What the
On Feb 8, 2008, at 9:01 AM, do.rflex wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008, at 6:39 AM, do.rflex wrote:
What the hell is same transmission?
Transmission is just a translation of the Sanskrit word
agama (Agama) --a transmission of the
On Feb 8, 2008, at 11:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
I think that John has bought into the propaganda
spread by Nabby and others that you have never
practiced TM or been a TM teacher. His phrasing
above seems to imply that.
If I'm not mistaken, neither is true. Like many
of us here, you both
On Feb 8, 2008, at 10:06 AM, do.rflex wrote:
Scientology? ...or what? What qualifies you to determine and/or to
be a final arbiter of the validity of the saints, especially ones
you've never met or 'experienced'?
No interest in scientology or being a final arbiter. I've trained
and
On Feb 8, 2008, at 10:52 AM, do.rflex wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008, at 10:06 AM, do.rflex wrote:
Scientology? ...or what? What qualifies you to determine and/or to
be a final arbiter of the validity of the saints, especially
On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:18 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Remember when we read the Sociopath Next Door? That gave me much more
compassion and understanding about exploitive people. I think the
narcissist definition is a better match, but both give an insight that
we need to know that some people
On Feb 8, 2008, at 6:39 AM, do.rflex wrote:
What the hell is same transmission?
Transmission is just a translation of the Sanskrit word
agama (Agama) --a transmission of the same teaching, in the same
practice line as Guru Dev, from one of his students.
Satyanand? Only stories.
On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:32 PM, authfriend wrote:
Let's recap: Responsible professionals do not
diagnose people they haven't interacted with on
the basis of one person's description. And any
professional who thought s/he would get an
accurate, objective account of MMY from Vaj is
incompetent.
On Feb 8, 2008, at 3:29 AM, george_deforest wrote:
curtisdeltablues wrote:
I got a lot of peace from the article in the Skeptical Inquirer
in 89 or 90 that compared these personality traits with popular
gurus...
It explained how he could use and discard people as he unfolded
his mission. I
On Feb 7, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Michael wrote:
You're welcome - it was a real pleasure to listen to that intently.
I actually got the recording from a colleague- you might be
interested in his commentary
as well:
Thank you so much (I am very interested) and I'm glad people have the
On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:29 PM, BillyG. wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A recorded lecture by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
August 1970, Humboldt State College, California
Student: Today in our discussion group we were discussing levels of
On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:38 PM, do.rflex wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maharishi's answer doesn't clearly account for, as an example,
Satyanand's stated experience of hearing Guru Dev's voice *after* Guru
Dev's body had ceased to function. Nor
On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:53 PM, BillyG. wrote:
Yes! I think MMY had a Messiah complex and wanted to save the world
from itself,(not a bad idea) but was only able to muster a few dozen
'cling ons' to further his 'dreams'. Had he stayed with his original
principles like, for the forest to be green,
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:11 PM, authfriend wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
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Maybe he really wasn't a yogi. Is that a possibility here?
Yes!
Be interesting to hear a definition of
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:26 PM, do.rflex wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:38 PM, do.rflex wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
Maharishi's answer doesn't clearly account for, as an example,
Here's another, more important, thing we agree on.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY lecture on death in CC - Humboldt
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:12 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:53 PM, BillyG. wrote:
Yes! I think MMY had a Messiah complex and wanted to save the
world from itself,(not a bad idea) but was only able to muster
a
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:57 PM, do.rflex wrote:
Regarding early TMO pundits and teachers: 'they certainly
weren't no
Acharyas'. :-)
Brahmachari Satyanand, whom I referred to, had spent many years
with
Guru Dev as a disciple. After Guru Dev's 'death' he later went
on to
assist
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:04 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:12 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
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I've spoken to a number of psychologist and psychiatrist
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:25 PM, sandiego108 wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:11 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:33 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Although I am sure this will be hard to relate to for some...
I got a lot of peace from the article in the Skeptical Inquirer in 89
or 90 that compared these personality traits with popular gurus. I
know this seemed horrible to people who
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:30 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:04 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:12 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:34 PM, sandiego108 wrote:
No, better yet, continue to lose yourself in your layers and signs
and Ways and Views...that's the ticket. Arduously discover a
glimpse, a painful elicited glimmer of the one true self, no wait,
The One True Self Of Compassion--- Hilarious!!! You
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:38 PM, authfriend wrote:
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*Responsible* professionals don't come
up with such diagnoses on a dime the day after
a person with whom they have no familiarity has died,
*Particularly* not a
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:58 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:38 PM, authfriend wrote:
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wrote:
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*Responsible* professionals don't come
up with such
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:57 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:30 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:04 PM, authfriend wrote:
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