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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguis
being done
here by a lot of good people who are with it in the community. -JaiGuruYou
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here by a lot of good people who are with it in the community. -JaiGuruYou
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict
prese
ous work that is being done
here by a lot of good people who are with it in the community. -JaiGuruYou
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ng done
here by a lot of good people who are with it in the community. -JaiGuruYou
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict
preservation on the o
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critiqu
re by a lot of good people who are with it in the community. -JaiGuruYou
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Well, you are laying out the "vision of possibilities" that drew so many in.
I'm not sure it's worked out that way for everyone, but I will concur that
stepping upon the spiritual path is indeed fortunate, but not for the faint of
heart.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I'd s
I'd say there's been a "black night of the soul" for many of us regarding M's
teaching.
Indeed...and yet how much more marvellous are the first rays of early morning
set against the darkest of nights, with the full brightness of day yet to come!
Through the line behind the pioneering attitude
Truth and Consequences, The Sin of the Spin,
Nice post, Upfronter. This is really well written critique as it speaks to the
dangers we have in our collective story of our communal TM standard of ethics
as a corporate spiritual group.
It comes at a good time for what are processes of
I'd say there's been a "black night of the soul" for many of us regarding M's
teaching.
In the best case, you reconcile it in some manner, and emerge on the other
side keeping intact some parts, and letting some parts go by the wayside.
Or, in some cases, people become embittered, and set
“I don't recall that on my TTC ('72) that we were trained to be as deceptive
as upfronter is suggesting.”
I’m sorry if you thought I was suggesting that TM teachers were “trained to be
as deceptive”. My point, in a nutshell, is that before this practice was ironed
out (thank you authfr
ut the one you buy is yours and
yours alone. We never discussed criteria for selection.
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“Teacher briefly glances at initiation form to check the criteria for mantra
selection (age and/or sex) and to preserve the illusion of personal mantra
selection.”
In other words, alter the truth that mantra selection is based solely o
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
(snip)
Also, looking at the early supposed TTC training script (unless it has been
doctored to provide a falsehood), I notice that the giving of the mantra should
be done in such a way as to make the initiate feel that they are getting a
un
I remember when I learned TM so many years ago that the mantra, in terms of
meaning and origin, was not discussed at all, nor was I particularly interested
in the details, as long as it worked. It was *the correct use* of the mantra,
the delicacy of its implementation, that was emphasized.
I
“Teacher briefly glances at initiation form to check the criteria for mantra
selection (age and/or sex) and to preserve the illusion of personal mantra
selection.”
In other words, alter the truth that mantra selection is based solely on age
and sex and create an illusion that it is som
yep, TM wasn't designed for a required support structure, beyond those first
days of checking. A very wise move by Maharishi, and unique so far as I can
tell among the many offerings out there. It is truly a "householder's"
technique, and far more helpful than a bunch of crutches.:-)
---In Fai
Good narrative, Upfront. By definition it sounds like you are a practitioner
who simply has come to have faith in the practice based on experience with it,
spiritually. That is different than the tru-believers who seem to make
something cultural out of their time with it, like a religion. Thi
I sincerely thank the disciplic line responsible for the meditation that has
brought me to a world in this world that I could not even have dreamt of. How
grateful am I!
However, I do not agree with much of the certain knowledge spoken by the
masters that comes from the East except in parall
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict
preservation on the
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faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict
:36 AM
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict
preserva
well, good luck.
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Om no, no. The
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It's called *trying to solve the problem on the level of the problem*.
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It's called *trying to solve the problem on the level of the problem*.
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'Originalism', this becomes a useful critique for distinguishing the religious
faith-and-belief-in-Maharishi conservative TM ideologic zealotry of strict
preservation on the one hand from progressive practitioner elements on the
other hand who in experience would like to see things evolve and wo
ay, February 16, 2016 6:18 AM
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Why? Well, on a purely practical level I live here and a lot of my friends
live here. I have family that lives here now and we are all affected by how
Why? Well, on a purely practical level I live here and a lot of my friends
live here. I have family that lives here now and we are all affected by how
they behave up there. -JaiGuruYou
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
If it's *extremely trying inside the movement" why be bot
If it's *extremely trying inside the movement" why be bothered? That's why i
keep my distance from the TMO. That way,I don't stress them out and they don't
stress me out. Why swim in their mess?
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inalists v Progressive Practitioners,
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Thanks for the info on your background. Fascinating where we come from, and
you've traced it back quite a ways. I find each of the states quite distinct as
it is, a very different feel for each one, so the laboratory seems
Thanks for the info on your background. Fascinating where we come from, and
you've traced it back quite a ways. I find each of the states quite distinct
as it is, a very different feel for each one, so the laboratory seems to be
working. Inevitably though, a management layer must be imposed, f
Coincidentally a constitutional scholar happened to contact me separately last
night by e-mail asking, “..how is it going here in Fairfield?” He is an
academic who reads all the Supreme Court opinions and edits for law review
journals. He happens also to have a scholarly interest in historic spi
Original intent was that the federal government would be very limited. The
states would have all power not granted to the federal government by virtue of
the tenth amendment. That way, each state would be it's own laboratory of
freedom. States would be able to *borrow* what worked from each othe
Ok, good. Thanks for clarification. Sounds like a much better idea.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
No Steve, the *originalist* view of gay marriage would be,* leave it to the
individual states to decide*. That is an issue of the tenth amendment. At what
point the Federal gove
No Steve, the *originalist* view of gay marriage would be,* leave it to the
individual states to decide*. That is an issue of the tenth amendment. At what
point the Federal government then imposes it upon the other states, I'm not
sure. Could be >50% or 2/3rds or 3/4s or none. The original inten
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