[Felvtalk] DNR order - OT

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
On 09-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: With those beliefs, please check into a Do Not Resuscitate Order. LWs are great but stopping something once it is started is difficult. A DNR can help keep measures from being started. Thanks, I'll do that. I didn't realize a DNR order was a separate thing from

Re: [Felvtalk] Pets PTS for the wrong reasons!

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
I've seen this entirely too many times. Healthy animals being PTS because selfish people don't want to deal with them anymore. Their reasons for murdering their pets are varied We want to travel and can't be bothered with the cat. The cat leaves hair on my new sofa, and the latest one is

Re: [Felvtalk] Animals PTS for the wrong reason

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
I couldn't have said it better Lee, you are an excellent writer and you express yourself beautifully. Lorrie On 09-25, Lee Evans wrote: The problem with euthanasia for pets is that most people will use it for their own convenience. I have seen this happen several times and it's

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
On 09-25, Marcia wrote: My 3 other siblings and I took care of my Mom for 3 weeks while she died at home. Her request(: hospice said no fluid, so she laid there with nothing all that time, struggling to breath, to swallow. Etc. I only cried one time during that 3 weeks, because I had a job

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
My mom had morphine...hospice wouldn't allow fluids. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 09-25, Marcia wrote: My 3 other siblings and I took care of my Mom for 3 weeks while

Re: [Felvtalk] DNR order - OT

2012-09-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
Sure is and one that can be exercised without the assistance of another person. On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Lorrie wrote: On 09-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: With those beliefs, please check into a Do Not Resuscitate Order. LWs are great but stopping something once it is started is difficult. A

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread GRAS
I feel so horrible for anyone who has to watch their loved ones, people or pets, suffer needlessly without the proper help! I sat with my mother for 3 weeks, even nights, but had to go to her house to care for her cats, take a shower and change clothing. They were going to send her home with a

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Edna Taylor
No fluids? WHAT? they won't let someone die via assistance but it's OKAY to let them suffer without fluids? That is wrong on SO many levels :( From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:24:19 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia My mom

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Natalie
Fluids are essential to help the body slowly ease into organs shutting down without sudden dehydration, which is supposed to be very painful! It must be individual hospice rules. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On

Re: [Felvtalk] Pets PTS for the wrong reasons!

2012-09-26 Thread Natalie
Some really lazy people use litter box liners for only none reason, to grab the whole liner ONCE a week, and toss it, and start with a new one. No wonder that people with only one cat can have a smelly house! I always explain to adopters who have never had a cat before that it must be cleaned

Re: [Felvtalk] DNR order - OT

2012-09-26 Thread KG BarnCats
Some, especially the elderly or very ill, may wish to look into the DNR bracelets. My grandmother's nursing home mislaid her file so at the critical moment, they could not show her DNR to the paramedics -- so she was forced through a lot of intrusive procedures that she absolutely did not want.

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
I guess your mom requested no tubes, and this is why she only got morphine. I'm sure glad she had that. Hospice is usually very generous with it, whereas hospitals aren't. Never go to a hospital to die. They do everything they can to keep you alive and they never give patients enough pain

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Edna Taylor
They just want to get as much MONEY from the family and their insurance company as they can :( Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:57:47 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia I guess your mom requested no tubes, and this is why she

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Terri Brown
My father who passed away this past December (may he rest in peace), passed away at home, with morphine drops and water if he wanted it. In his case, it was heart failure, and he didn't want to die in the hospital. He literally said to my sister (pardon the language) I am sick of this fucking

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Marcia
Hospitals aren't good at palliative care. It wasn't that my Mom requested no tubes, it was that Hospice didn't want her to have fluids. They said it would make her uncomfortable. I went toe to toe with that lady. Her Dr said she could have fluids, hospice said no. Sent from my iPhone On Sep

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Marcia
Yes, I read that Drs are trained to save lives, not end them. And I don't mid that language a bit(: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com wrote: My father who passed away this past December (may he rest in peace), passed away at home, with

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
That probably had a lot to do with it! On 09-26, Edna Taylor wrote: They just want to get as much MONEY from the family and their insurance company as they can :( ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
Good for him. Dying at home is the best way. I want to croak at home in my own bed. On 09-26, Terri Brown wrote: My father who passed away this past December (may he rest in peace), passed away at home, with morphine drops and water if he wanted it. In his case, it was heart

Re: [Felvtalk] DNR order - OT

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
On 09-26, KG BarnCats wrote: Some, especially the elderly or very ill, may wish to look into the DNR bracelets. My grandmother's nursing home mislaid her file so at the critical moment, they could not show her DNR to the paramedics -- so she was forced through a lot of intrusive procedures

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Lorrie
On 09-26, Marcia wrote: Hospitals aren't good at palliative care. It wasn't that my Mom requested no tubes, it was that Hospice didn't want her to have fluids. They said it would make her uncomfortable. I went toe to toe with that lady. Her Dr said she could have fluids, hospice said no.

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread Natalie
Maybe that's it; my mother was at a hospital hospice facility! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-26 Thread GRAS
When I moved my mother to a better hospital, where they had the hospice, they quickly wheeled her out for another MRI before the move - there was no need for it - just make some more money! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org