Thanks Marylyn!
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Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:38 PM
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Use the spray where he is peeing. I haven't used Feliway
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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:46 AM
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Finding her a home of her own in the future may be a really good thing.
Right now, lose on top of lose
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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Finding her a home of her own in the future may be a really good thing.
Right now, lose on top of lose on top of lose it would be so hard
*I think using enough... or more than enough in the plug-ins is the answer.
We had 10 -12 running at any one time in our 3,000 square foot house. So I
would say 4 is good for your space... but certainly too little defeats the
purpose (so I'd run heavy rather than light). We noticed a HUGE
don't forget whenever you're buying anything online to check places
like www.bizrate.com or www.shop.com to compare prices--you will be
amazed at the range.
sometime last year i did a search on the feliway diffusers--it's sure
to be in the archives!
On 1/8/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just did a search, and the cheapest place was at dog.com. I found that
humorous:)
On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't forget whenever you're buying anything online to check places
like www.bizrate.com or www.shop.com to compare prices--you will be
amazed at the range.
.
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Re Feliway, agree, I don't know if mine are doing any good or not--Mickey is
still prone to peeing on sofa when he mixes with my tame cats--but I'm
continuing to use
Kelley,
She is just beautiful, I'm glad she is making positive strides. Poor
baby losing everything that is familiar to her.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
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Hey Kelley,
I hope your new 'feral' kitty is doing well today. I
read all the threads today on her, and it sounds like
things are slowly going to work out. Thank goodness
she is eating!-I would have been panicked about that
too. Keep us posted on her!
:)
Wendy
It's too soon to even consider anxiety meds. If she still wont let you be in
the same room as her without growling in a MONTH, then it's more serious. I
wouldn't expect to touch her for a month or longer. And forcing the issue
and pushing her too soon will do more harm than good. You should be
Awww Miranda is beautiful! She's so fluffy, just like my Taylor :)
Gina
Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, wow, my Miranda is technically a blue tabby then! All this time
I have called her gray/silver.
http://ucat.us/Miranda2005-2.jpg (granted the
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a while to
get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked.
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex
.
St.
Francis
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*From:* tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a while
with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
She's MUCH better
:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Subject:* Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let me
come very close to touching her, then put her paw out to stop me
.
St.
Francis
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Kelley
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St. Francis
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From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Hi Marylyn,
I just think that a lot of cats would want their own
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*From:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:29 AM
*Subject:* Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let
me come very close to touching her, then put her paw out
@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
one thing i would do, kelley, is talk to her--explain to her that it's not
her fault that she lost her first home, that she's still a lovable creature and
that sometimes people break their promises
Hooray! That's wonderful progress. Try not to push her. I would wait
and see if she approaches you, or at least ask her permission to graze
her with your touch. I wouldn't even be thinking about adopting her out
at this point. Let her get used to the fact that switching homes means
a step
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a
while to get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used
perfume or smoked.
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
.
St.
Francis
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*From:* tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kelley,
Do you wear any scents
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*From:* tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:06 PM
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Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a
while to get
She's purrdy, but she looks mad in the second picture. My Matilda the
Hun's pictures look the same way. I swear, she does get pleasant
expressions on her face, just not often enough to snap a picture of them!
N
Kelley Saveika wrote:
I took some pictures of her, if anyone wants to see:
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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
I took some pictures of her, if anyone wants to see:
http://www.rescuties.org/images/caroline.jpg
http://www.rescuties.org/images/caroline1.jpg
On 1/3/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a
while to get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used
perfume or smoked.
Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL
*She's gorgeous!!! Thanks for sharing pictures...*
--
Leslie =^..^=
To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden
patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That
only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph
Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a while to
get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked.
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex-guardian had her since 8
weeks of age,
Apparently the only scent I wear is cat pee, according to my coworkers, but
that's another thread:p.
I don't smoke.
She is a LITTLE better. She ate enough canned food to produce a bowel
movement. She's still not eating what I think she should, though -
especially since her former guardian
Great! Sounds like she's doing well and coming round. It's a big
shock leaving the home you've known..
Gloria
At 12:13 PM 1/2/2007, you wrote:
Apparently the only scent I wear is cat pee, according to my
coworkers, but that's another thread:p.
I don't smoke.
She is a LITTLE better.
@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Kelley,
Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a while to
get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked.
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
likewise with
their fellow man.
St.
Francis
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*From:* TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:06 AM
*Subject:* Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
let me tell you about lacey susan, whom i affectionately refer to as my
psychotic, all-4-paw-declawed psychotic calico she was rescued at 4 weeks,
and lived with one woman til she was 5 years old. she
On 1/1/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My apologies to Missy. I can only speak from experience. :)) By the
way, I know what a grey tabby is but what does a blue tabby look like? You
can imagine the shades of blue I am thinking of.
Here are all the tabby colors:
A brown tabby has
And Missy and I take umbrage at your statement. It is quite clear to us
that blue tabbies rule the world!:)
sigh, those blue ones--they're always SO jealous that they're missing the
red gene
--
Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
AIM /
Hi Kelley,
You can try an off brand of Feliway. Petsmart sells one called At
Ease by NaturVet. I've used both and they seem pretty comparable.
Your sweet Missy may rule the world, but I'm betting she does it with
her charm and beauty. I didn't even tell Ursula, (my Calico girl, who
rules
Oh, wow, my Miranda is technically a blue tabby then! All this time I have
called her gray/silver.
http://ucat.us/Miranda2005-2.jpg (granted the lighting here makes her look
pink)
http://ucat.us/Miranda12-26-2006-3.jpg
http://ucat.us/Miranda12-26-2006-4.jpg
Phaewryn
Don't Lose Your Pet! Register
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St. Francis
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From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Oh, wow, my Miranda is technically a blue tabby then! All
Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and
a half without being in danger of losing a finger.
On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe
benadryl to be compounded at a compounding
Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food
(they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in
them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and
canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe
with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Not only can I not touch
, December 31, 2006 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food
(they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them -
my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats
Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified. Give
her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea).
Talk to her soothingly.
Gloria
On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:
Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her
No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex-guardian had her since 8
weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me. (she's had WAY too many
shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the
ripoff joint).
She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and
*She sounds like one we got many years ago... we affectionately called her
Shasta McNasty - Now she's just Shasta. She was THE nastiest cat I'd ever
encountered! She finally came around and now is a love... but it took a
while. I think those difficult ones tend to be extra special when you do
The Benadryl really works for Patches. But I think (dont remember for sure)
the dose is about 1/6 of a pill at a time, or 1/3 of a pill. I don't think
it is half a pill, but not sure. I get it compounded for her ears because she
is hard to pill and I was having to chase her around and
Beautiful story, MC - Thanks.
Gloria
On Dec 31, 2006, at 10:06 AM, TenHouseCats wrote:
let me tell you about lacey susan, whom i affectionately refer to
as my psychotic, all-4-paw-declawed psychotic calico she was
rescued at 4 weeks, and lived with one woman til she was 5 years
well, yes, i was positive when i wrote it, but now i can't remember for
sure. of course, you know my memory is becoming progressively more
randomly accessible as i age. so i'm sitting here trying to visualize
what's written on that little index card, and the level of med in the
Hi Kelley,
Welcome to the world of How the heck am I going to overcome all that's
happened to this poor aggressive cat?. The key is patience, love and
respect, with a heavy emphasis on patience. Some of these poor scared
individuals are more difficult than others, but with understanding of
If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl
to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub
inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was
prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly
Michelle,
I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling
his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved
in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the
compounding pharmacist here.
elizabeth
On 12/30/06, [EMAIL
*Does the Benadryl have to be compounded? What is the dosage... do you
know? We've got one that pulls his hair out and I'd like to try it!*
*Thanks!*
*Leslie =^..^=*
On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe
The dose my doctor recommended for an extremely upset cat was 1/2 of a 25mg
pill...that might be too much for one with OCD though. It really calmed
Celena down though..she was insane at the time over an outside cat she saw
through the window...attacking everyone in sight on the inside. I plan
No, you can give benadryl in it's pill form, get the tablets, not the
caplets, and break one in half, that is a safe cat dose! 1/2 of a 25MG
tablet, or 12.5MG is the usual cat dose.
Phaewryn
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referral code: LittleCheetah)
Phaewryn, what about children's benadryl it's liquid and you can give it with
a dropper. I could maybe get it in my cats that way,but I wouldn't know what
amount to give. Sheila
Children's benadryl is so diluted you have to give such a large amount to a
cat it's not practical. I think it's like a whole teaspoon or more to equal
a 12.5MG dose. The adult pills are much easier, they are already small, and
once you cut them in half, they are VERY easy to get into a cat (you
I've tried liquid Benadryl before. The cat I gave it to really hated
the flavor/taste and went ballistic. Not the reaction I was hoping for
at all. If you haven't tried coating pills with a tiny bit of pill
pocket and hiding it in food, please do. If the cat is eating at all,
they usually
i've always given .25 ml of the pediatric liquid with the cats who can't be
pilled. no, they aren't fond of it, but i'm fonder of my fingers--and for
the behavioral hair-pulling/licking/scratching (which often starts out as an
actual allergic reaction then turns into a behavioral thing), it's
oops--that's .25/mg twice a day, per my vet
On 12/31/06, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i've always given .25 ml of the pediatric liquid with the cats who can't
be pilled. no, they aren't fond of it, but i'm fonder of my fingers--and
for the behavioral hair-pulling/licking/scratching
.25MG? Are you sure about that MC? That isn't enough to do anything, I don't
think. The standard does is 12.5MG.
Phaewryn
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Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html
12/24/06 Whitey Pictures:
There are others here who probably have much more useful info for you,
but from hanging out on the feral_cats list, sounds to me like you may
have to treat her exactly like a feral -- cage and (re)socialize. It
can be done, just a case of baby steps, going slow, winning trust,
patience patience
*I agree with Diane... but you might also try Feliway or Comfortzone in the
bathroom with her. I have had success with both of those products. You can
also try Rescue Remedy in her water. We take in feral cats, and my advice
would be to go in the bathroom with her... sit on the floor (get down
I will try, but she's not in the floor. She's in the sink, and ferociously
defending her new territory. I had to brush my teeth at the bathroom sink:)
On 12/29/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*I agree with Diane... but you might also try Feliway or Comfortzone in
the bathroom
I use Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy with the ferals I have worked with. They
work wonders on distraught cats of any kind. Spray the room she is in with the
Feliway and maybe some concentrated catnip and put RR in her water (you may
want to take some too). Remember the cat is very confused
New thought: Leave a piece of your clothing (old please) where she can get
used to the smell. A well used wash cloth or towel would work.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
I definitely recommend the feliway, rescue remedy and giving her a place to
hide where she will feel safe. I've had some success in the past giving a
very agressive cat 1/2 of a 25mg benedryl...my vet at the time told me to do
that. Wasn't easy getting it down her but it did a lot to calm her
I haven't had any experience with an aggressive cat
but I think it is so wonderful that you took her.
Maybe her aggression is from being scared and in a new
place. Poor baby. I am sure she is probably scared
when she has been taken to the vet so maybe that is
why their paperwork says she is
Welcome to the world of Owner Surrenders! What one says is certainly usually
NOT what one gets! It's common for a sweet kitty with no problems to
actually arrive to you as kitty from hell about to gouge out your eyeballs
in a fit of rage. That being said, you do sometimes get a cat in that
really
Her story is the dreaded moving in with the allergic boyfriend one. She
didn't even bring her over - a friend of hers did. So Charlotte was clearly
tame enough for the friend to get into a carrier (which is more than I could
do at this point). Charlotte didn't go ballistic until she saw
.
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Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Welcome to the world of Owner Surrenders! What one says is certainly
usually
Poor Charlotte. Her exmommy should have insisted on Claritin
Diane R.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive
on Claritin
Diane R.
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*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2006 4:17 PM
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*Subject:* Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Her story is the dreaded moving
I wouldn't take it too personally. She probably knew the friend already,
where you are a total stranger. Up til now, her entire life experience with
strangers has likely been limited to vets and vet techs, none of which do
anything even remotely nice to her (in her opinion). She probably knows she
.
St. Francis
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From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Poor thing, her name is Caroline. I was thinking of Charlottes web...
She had
Oh.h.h. yeaa - sounds very familiar. I'd give her some time to
herself for a few days, and see how she reacts to a little tasty
canned food after that. I've had the NICEST cats start out quite
aggressive, because they didn't like the new and different
surroundings, don't like
Well quite by accident I did fall into a way to help socialize my Romeo-he
knew me from my feeding him in a small colony but was NOT happy at being
brought in. Because I had to separate him initially from my brood, I set
him up in my bedroom. There's an outer door to the bedroom and the bath
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