Re: Effie has her angel's wings
Del Please accept my heartfelt condolences in the passing of your precious Effie. She was so fortunate to have your forever, loving home and you were fortunate to have her loving, precious presence to add wonderful things to your life. They all teach us something I am sure. I know that my life is always richer for loving and caring for a precious being who nobody else wants. Please accept my sympathy in the loss of your good friend, Liz. I, too, had a wonderful friend named Liz who passed on last week. She was a bright, intelligent, animal loving free spirit who touched everyone she ever met. I'm sure your friend Liz was the same to you. Isn't it wonderful that she can be there at the Bridge to show Effie the ropes while they both await your arrival? Effie and Liz are truly 'Shining New Angels." I hope the following helps somewhat to ease your grief. Listen closely.. S.. there! did you hear that? just the softest rustle. a little breeze just barely moving the leaves on that tree over there? No.. close.but somehow not. The sound, more felt than heard when you walk barefoot thru soft grass in summer? No.. This was even more wonderful than those yet, sad too as it will never be heard again..this way The sound of a shining new angel taking flight -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005
OT: Lovey and Merry Home! :) - Third Act! LONG!
Hi All.. Peggy, would you please pass this on to Tinley? Thanks. Also, thank you Dan for your leg of the trip. I understand it wasn't so special. :) You are a good man. I left off with going to meet Tom at the Wisconsin Dells. We arrived between 10:00 and 10:30 PM. We had a few words with Tom and thanked him again profusely. When he opened his car door the tom cat smell just about floored us. lol Poor Tom. :( We got the cats transferred to our car and thanked Tom again. He took off for home and we decided to find an out of the way place in the Dells. We were tired and knew the cats would appreciate getting out of the kennels. Also, since we hadn't brought any gas masks I knew we needed to do some cleaning up. lol Just a few blocks from the pick up we found a small place called The Malibu Inn. It is owned and operated by a very nice Turkish family. My daughter went to check to see if they had a quiet room and if they would accept cats. Janine thought she shouldn't say anything in case they wouldn't let us check in. I suggested she play it by ear. I wanted to stay in the car with the cats. Anyway, a little later I saw the man owner take her to a room so that she could check it out. She came over to the car and said she thought it was fine and we could check in with the cats as long as they remained kenneled. We just looked at each other because we knew we weren't going to leave them all night in the kennels, but we let the owner think that. I had brought Ozium spray for odors, a disinfectant to clean the kennels and spray things around the motel room. I've seen too many programs on the supposed cleanliness of motel/hotel room. :) We also brought Nature's Miracle in case Lovey sprayed. The man owner kept hanging around trying to be helpful and I just wanted him to leave us alone so that we could get the cats out of the car. We didn't want him to smell the inside of the car or the cats or he surely wouldn't have let us check in. lol We left the car running with the heat on and took everything in but the cats. We also didn't want to take a chance that one of the cats would get out the door while bringing things into the room. We got everything in and about to go get the cats in when he knocked on our door. I forget what he wanted, but he was just trying to be helpful. After we got rid of him, we ran out to the car (parked in front of our room) and got the cats into the room. Within seconds the entire room was permeated with Lovey's tom cat smell. It was intense. I asked my daughter to get a plastic bag out of the car and I let the cats out of the kennels. Lovey had a big blue towel and a folded sheet which were saturated with urine. I shoved those into the bag, tied it and asked Janine to put it in the trunk until we could find an outside waste container. I then disinfected his kennel, dried it out and put fresh bedding in. We also started spraying the parts of the room that the cats weren't in. They were afraid of the spray so just sprayed away from them. Meanwhile, Lovey and Merry are still eating canned and dry. I actually fed them before I cleaned out his kennel. Merry had a litter box in her kennel and she had gone in it, but there was no smell. When they finished eating they started exploring running over both beds, sniffing everything and just generally feeling free at last. :) We checked them both over and both appeared to be just fine. Lovey had litter stuck in his paws and we pulled out what we could without hurting him. Merry was very ladylike. It took about two hours of intermittent spraying of Ozium before we got rid of the tom cat smell. We were going to go out for a late dinner, but decided we didn't want to leave the cats alone in a strange room. So, we broke out some cheese (Wisconsiners you know? :) ) and crackers that we had brought along in case we got hungry, poured a glass of wine and laid back to watch some television while the cats explored. We had two double beds so they had a blast walking back and forth across our heads on the pillows like they were looking for the path to Nirvana. lol Lovey made himself at home after a couple of pieces of cheese on the pillow next to my daughter. Merry was also enjoying some cheese with me on my bed and she settled down by my side. When we were ready for bed Lovey actually had his head on Janine's hand on his pillow and she covered him with the blanket. That's how they slept all night. Merry and I slept together all night too. Unfortunately, Janine awoke after only 4 hours of sleep and couldn't get back to sleep. She said I was moaning and groaning in my sleep. Before I fell asleep my top left foot and toes were so swollen and bruised that I couldn't stand for even the sheet to lay on it. Janine said she couldn't believe that I slept through banging doors, vacuuming, etc. I guess I was pretty exhausted after being hurt fairly badly and then driving for
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery
Oh yeah..thanks for reminding me about them too! In a message dated 3/3/2005 7:33:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Barker, Doris Day, Betty White![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/3/2005 1:04:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebslike those two?Kerry We have Linda Evans around here (WA) she is another active member for animal welfare. Geena Davis, Drew Barrymore, Tony LaRussa (sp)(Baseball Manager) for few more for the animals. But I agree not enough stars though... Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ <><>
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery
Bob Barker, Doris Day, Betty White! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/3/2005 1:04:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebs like those two? Kerry We have Linda Evans around here (WA) she is another active member for animal welfare. Geena Davis, Drew Barrymore, Tony LaRussa (sp)(Baseball Manager) for few more for the animals. But I agree not enough stars though... Terrie Mohr Check site for available Siameses for adoption! More will be posted soon. http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.orecatay.com/ http://www.awca.net/index.htm http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ http://www.meezer.com/ http://thesiamesestore.com/ http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.html http://ca.siameserescue.org/ http://co.siameserescue.org/ http://va.siameserescue.org/ <><>
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery
In a message dated 3/3/2005 1:04:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebslike those two?Kerry We have Linda Evans around here (WA) she is another active member for animal welfare. Geena Davis, Drew Barrymore, Tony LaRussa (sp)(Baseball Manager) for few more for the animals. But I agree not enough stars though... Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ <><>
Re: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?
I read about a hospice service somewhere on the west coast, but it is like hospice care for humans-- going to the home to help with pain relief, care, etc. for terminally ill animals, rather than a place that takes them. There is an FeLV sanctuary somewhere with a woman who has about 50 positives at any given time and she describes herself as providing them with hospice care. I do not have her info, but my mom might. My mom corresponded with her when I first took in my 6 positives. Michelle In a message dated 3/3/05 1:50:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry
Re: outdoor arrangments (was:Tip is Gone)
If you put chicken wire on the top the hawks can not get them. You need to cover the top so the cats can not climb out of the enclosure
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery/freecycle
Actually, many freecycle lists do not require that you offer anything before posting a request. It varies depending on who is moderating it. Michelle In a message dated 3/3/05 4:07:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: just a thought. is there a www.freecycle.org listed for your local area?in case you don't know how it works, you have to register and then (at leastin our area) the first post must be an Offer of something. everything has tobe free. people offer things from packing materials to boats to food etc.you could post as a cat rescue looking for food--that would smoke out anycat lovers and perhaps you could network with them. also i googled for newmexico(that is where you are,right? or did I hallucinate again?)and foundthis group. perhaps they could help or know others.http://www.albcat.com/
Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter
very interesting site sounds as if not ALL stories will be accepted; are FeLVs considered handicapped/disabled?... MC
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Hi, I use Advantage in stead of Revolution unless my cats have ear mites. My vet will not carrie Revolution because of the amount of chemicals in it. To save money with the Advantage use the dog size with a syringe, without the needle, and apply the amount required for the weight of the cat
Re: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
Re: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?
angel's gate is the only one that i know of; there are some "retirement homes," tho i don't have their links immediately at hand. terri's point is very well taken: we ARE the hospices for our FeLVs and other sick ones! at the sanctuary, one ot the things we ran across was WHO/WHAT the cat was: we were great for ferals and strays, because we were a warm place, with constant food, medical care, and, for those who wanted it, human attention. but cats who had been housecats did horribly. they had come to expect a very different level of, um, creature comforts than we could supply. some of that had to do with space and person-power, but even more with our state's Dept of Agriculture regs: we couldn't have anything that wasn't disinfectable--so no comfy armchairs, no bed with real mattresses, no carpeted cat-trees or upholestered cubby-holes. we had lots of washable pillows and beds and mats galore, but for a spoiled housecat, it just wasn't enough. i expect that finding volunteers to help in a hospice setting would be difficult, too--it got to where i stated very clearly in our volunteer write-ups that, in a FeLV sanctuary setting, cats DIE... most of the FeLV came in healthy, and were healthy for varying amounts of time--and volunteers still had trouble with their going to the bridge. imagine in a setting where sooner-rather-than-later demise is a given MC On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:50:03 -0600, MacKenzie, Kerry N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi all > Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for > pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter
Barbara. Here you are - http://www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/wfi0205/index.htm -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. Barbara Lowe wrote: oh darn please send the link again as my computer seems to have been hungry last night and i can't find any saved stuff from yesterday. barbara - Original Message - From: Brenda K. Smith To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter Joan I just went there and a person needs to view the Photo Gallery page and/or The Rainbow Bridge page for it to count for a donation. One visit per day. I visited both and will do so every day that I can. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005
RE: Effie has her angel's wings
Del, I am so very sorry for Effie’s passing – I am sure that there isn’t really any words which can totally heal your pains – and I am crying with you though I don’t anything about Effie, but I know that she was and is such a special soul for you. I read a poem one time somewhere – it says something like “if a life is a journey, death is our destiny” – which brought me a very interesting perspective about “life” and death – We are all on the way to our destiny, and some gets there sooner than others – we want lives of our beloved animals to be as long and enjoyable possible – but eventually, we are all going to go to the same place (in my mind) – I am hoping that all my animals who left me first are waiting for me there if they did not already come back as another life – it’s certainly more difficult for us who are left here to deal with the pain than the ones who leave us perhaps – but please know that Effie’s is at a better place now, where there is no more pain – but her soul is still here with you – and she knows you love her and you miss her, and she returns you the same. Hugs, Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Effie has her angel's wings Del, I'm so sorry about Effie's passing, you and your husband must be missing her so much. Didn't you say she used to sleep with you at night? We're so blessed to know and love them, it's never long enough. I hope it gives you some comfort to know that because of you she lived and loved better and longer than she would have without you. Thank you for all you do for so many. Nina Del Daniels wrote: Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven. The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life. It was awfully hard. It IS hard. You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her. My heart is broken. Thank you everyone for support and feedback. Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well. Del >^.^< Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE Adopt a Shelter Pet PAWS of Union County, IL Rescue Angels On Wheels A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart
RE: Feral cat book...to the Lottery
Sally, what a great idea! I love the idea of "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars." Lottery - it actually should interest LOTS of people in a similar way how the TV series "Rosanne" was so popular - if you know what I mean - Just have to figure out the way to solicit! We just visited Oreo - poor Oreo, he was so drugged up - he did not want to eat the treat (smoked Turkey) that we brought for him (it is one of his favorite)- he is very scared there, I think - the doc said that he is doing fine - but I know he is not feeling well from such a major surgery. I hope we can bring him back home tomorrow! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery Dear Hideyo: I hear you loud and clear. If I ever had any "extra" dollars to spend, it sure would be nice to do more than just dream about winning the lottery. When I think about all the good things I could do to help improve the lot of critters in this world...Oh, wouldn't it be loverly? And then when you read about what most people who win do with all the money and it makes you sick. Buying cars and boats and vacations and expensive homes and the like. Not so different than what far too many people/celebrities who accumulate great wealth do with their bounty...conspicuous over-consumption. Which is why I am always very impressed with those who do use some of their wealth to support worthy causes. But I've found it often isn't the wealthiest who are the most generous (comparitively) but those who have little to give, yet still give of themselves and their limited $-resources with all the generosity a caring heart can manage. It is one of the things that makes me question if we do have a creator up there who is looking out for us and pulling the strings. If that IS the case, I don't have a lot of respect for the way He/She is managing things down here. If it were up to me, I would make sure that the "lucky" ones to win those lotteries were people who would do the most good with it, and I sure wouldn't allow innocent children and critters to suffer the way they so often do. So, I am more inclined to see life as a big crap shoot in which "Shit Happens!" and you just have to deal with whatever comes your way and try to keep smiling, somehow. Being a good and kind and loving person (or the opposite) really doesn't have much to do with the cards you are dealt. The only real choice we have is how we choose to play whatever cards we get dealt. We can cry about it and complain or we can make the best of it that we are able. I'd like to see a game show "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars." Maybe people could write in and tell what they would do if they were able to win a million dollars and those who had the most noble causes or worthy ideas would be given a chance to play and win. Fat chance though, when you consider that so many in our society are more interested in what happens to the glamorous celebrities and the death of someone like Princess Diana (not that Diana didn't attempt to do some good in the world) gains more attention than Mother Theresa, who died about the same time. Movie and sports stars make huge salaries for entertaining us, yet those who make far more important contributions to our society, like teachers, put in far more hours for salaries that are a pittance, by comparison. And then there are those stupid reality shows where people compete to win a million dollars and are rewarded for being conniving and ruthless instead of for the real skills that make survival in a REAL situation most meaningful...ingenuity, cooperation and a willingness to help others, not just yourself. You, Hideyo, are definitely of those who DESERVES to win a million dollars. Maybe what rescue groups need to do is start a lottery "pool" to shorten the odds some. Though I understand one has a better chance of beting struck by lightening than of winning a lottery. Anyhow...Dream on, and keep loving those feral cats and doing for them what no one else seems inclined to do. Even if we can't help them in big ways with a million dollars, we can help and save them, one deserving kitty soul at a time. By the way, are you aware that Newman's Own Organics (run by actor Paul Newman's youngest daughter, Nell) has come out with a line of healthy organic pet foods and all the profits, after taxes, are donated to animal welfare causes? Her father started Newman's Own some years ago to market salad dressing and pasta sauce (to start with) from his own private family recipes and all the profits are donated to education. He is only one of two celebrities I've ever met in person (the other is Bo Derek who breeds Andalusian horses and is also devoted to animal welfare causes). In 1964, when I was still in high school, I went to the U.S. Pony Club
RE: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?
Title: Message Thanks Chris. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:56 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist? Well Angel’s Gate on Long Island, NY lists itself as a hospice….. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist? Hi all Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?
Title: Message If you think about it, all of us who take in FeLV+ cats are running "hospices" of sorts... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: RE: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist? Well Angels Gate on Long Island, NY lists itself as a hospice .. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist? Hi all Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Effie has her angel's wings
Del, You were a big help to me when I came on the board with my felv+ cat. I am sorry to hear about Effie. From: "Del Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Subject: Effie has her angel's wings Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:54:09 -0600 Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven. The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life. It was awfully hard. It IS hard. You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her. My heart is broken. Thank you everyone for support and feedback. Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well. Del >^.^< Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE Adopt a Shelter Pet PAWS of Union County, IL Rescue Angels On Wheels A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart
Re: Effie has her angel's wings
Del, I'm so sorry about Effie's passing, you and your husband must be missing her so much. Didn't you say she used to sleep with you at night? We're so blessed to know and love them, it's never long enough. I hope it gives you some comfort to know that because of you she lived and loved better and longer than she would have without you. Thank you for all you do for so many. Nina Del Daniels wrote: Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven. The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life. It was awfully hard. It IS hard. You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her. My heart is broken. Thank you everyone for support and feedback. Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well. Del >^.^< Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE Adopt a Shelter Pet PAWS of Union County, IL Rescue Angels On Wheels A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart
Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp
I signed I will forward to other too!
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery/freecycle
just a thought. is there a www.freecycle.org listed for your local area? in case you don't know how it works, you have to register and then (at least in our area) the first post must be an Offer of something. everything has to be free. people offer things from packing materials to boats to food etc. you could post as a cat rescue looking for food--that would smoke out any cat lovers and perhaps you could network with them. also i googled for new mexico(that is where you are,right? or did I hallucinate again?)and found this group. perhaps they could help or know others. http://www.albcat.com/ but if you're not in new mexico then no help. where are you? regards Barbara what's ironic is that anytime i try to help a feral group locally, they are very closed mouth for fear of people dropping off more cats.
RE: Feral cat book...to the Lottery
What a wonderful read, Sally, from start to finish. And, I wouldn't be at all surprised if young Sally actually played some part, even if only in a chance comment, in molding young Nell, maybe even influencing Nell's dad, in terms of what they are and do for animals today. We're all connected, and stranger things have happened! I bought Newman's Own pet food from Wholefood's about 9 months ago but none of my bunch seemed thrilled with it, which is a great pity, because I'd much rather buy it knowing the profits were going to animal welfare. Maybe I'll try it again--I still have the original bag with about half the contents left--d'you think it's still useable? I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebs like those two? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery Dear Hideyo: I hear you loud and clear. If I ever had any "extra" dollars to spend, it sure would be nice to do more than just dream about winning the lottery. When I think about all the good things I could do to help improve the lot of critters in this world...Oh, wouldn't it be loverly? And then when you read about what most people who win do with all the money and it makes you sick. Buying cars and boats and vacations and expensive homes and the like. Not so different than what far too many people/celebrities who accumulate great wealth do with their bounty...conspicuous over-consumption. Which is why I am always very impressed with those who do use some of their wealth to support worthy causes. But I've found it often isn't the wealthiest who are the most generous (comparitively) but those who have little to give, yet still give of themselves and their limited $-resources with all the generosity a caring heart can manage. It is one of the things that makes me question if we do have a creator up there who is looking out for us and pulling the strings. If that IS the case, I don't have a lot of respect for the way He/She is managing things down here. If it were up to me, I would make sure that the "lucky" ones to win those lotteries were people who would do the most good with it, and I sure wouldn't allow innocent children and critters to suffer the way they so often do. So, I am more inclined to see life as a big crap shoot in which "Shit Happens!" and you just have to deal with whatever comes your way and try to keep smiling, somehow. Being a good and kind and loving person (or the opposite) really doesn't have much to do with the cards you are dealt. The only real choice we have is how we choose to play whatever cards we get dealt. We can cry about it and complain or we can make the best of it that we are able. I'd like to see a game show "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars." Maybe people could write in and tell what they would do if they were able to win a million dollars and those who had the most noble causes or worthy ideas would be given a chance to play and win. Fat chance though, when you consider that so many in our society are more interested in what happens to the glamorous celebrities and the death of someone like Princess Diana (not that Diana didn't attempt to do some good in the world) gains more attention than Mother Theresa, who died about the same time. Movie and sports stars make huge salaries for entertaining us, yet those who make far more important contributions to our society, like teachers, put in far more hours for salaries that are a pittance, by comparison. And then there are those stupid reality shows where people compete to win a million dollars and are rewarded for being conniving and ruthless instead of for the real skills that make survival in a REAL situation most meaningful...ingenuity, cooperation and a willingness to help others, not just yourself. You, Hideyo, are definitely of those who DESERVES to win a million dollars. Maybe what rescue groups need to do is start a lottery "pool" to shorten the odds some. Though I understand one has a better chance of beting struck by lightening than of winning a lottery. Anyhow...Dream on, and keep loving those feral cats and doing for them what no one else seems inclined to do. Even if we can't help them in big ways with a million dollars, we can help and save them, one deserving kitty soul at a time. By the way, are you aware that Newman's Own Organics (run by actor Paul Newman's youngest daughter, Nell) has come out with a line of healthy organic pet foods and all the profits, after taxes, are donated to animal welfare causes? Her father started Newman's Own some years ago to market salad dressing and pasta sauce (to start with) from his own private family recipes and all the profits are donated to education. He is only one of two celebrities I've ever met in person (the other i
Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?
Actually, I'm not sure I spelled it correctly either, I was adding the D because I didn't know there was just an L methionine :)) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery
Dear Hideyo: I hear you loud and clear. If I ever had any "extra" dollars to spend, it sure would be nice to do more than just dream about winning the lottery. When I think about all the good things I could do to help improve the lot of critters in this world...Oh, wouldn't it be loverly? And then when you read about what most people who win do with all the money and it makes you sick. Buying cars and boats and vacations and expensive homes and the like. Not so different than what far too many people/celebrities who accumulate great wealth do with their bounty...conspicuous over-consumption. Which is why I am always very impressed with those who do use some of their wealth to support worthy causes. But I've found it often isn't the wealthiest who are the most generous (comparitively) but those who have little to give, yet still give of themselves and their limited $-resources with all the generosity a caring heart can manage. It is one of the things that makes me question if we do have a creator up there who is looking out for us and pulling the strings. If that IS the case, I don't have a lot of respect for the way He/She is managing things down here. If it were up to me, I would make sure that the "lucky" ones to win those lotteries were people who would do the most good with it, and I sure wouldn't allow innocent children and critters to suffer the way they so often do. So, I am more inclined to see life as a big crap shoot in which "Shit Happens!" and you just have to deal with whatever comes your way and try to keep smiling, somehow. Being a good and kind and loving person (or the opposite) really doesn't have much to do with the cards you are dealt. The only real choice we have is how we choose to play whatever cards we get dealt. We can cry about it and complain or we can make the best of it that we are able. I'd like to see a game show "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars." Maybe people could write in and tell what they would do if they were able to win a million dollars and those who had the most noble causes or worthy ideas would be given a chance to play and win. Fat chance though, when you consider that so many in our society are more interested in what happens to the glamorous celebrities and the death of someone like Princess Diana (not that Diana didn't attempt to do some good in the world) gains more attention than Mother Theresa, who died about the same time. Movie and sports stars make huge salaries for entertaining us, yet those who make far more important contributions to our society, like teachers, put in far more hours for salaries that are a pittance, by comparison. And then there are those stupid reality shows where people compete to win a million dollars and are rewarded for being conniving and ruthless instead of for the real skills that make survival in a REAL situation most meaningful...ingenuity, cooperation and a willingness to help others, not just yourself. You, Hideyo, are definitely of those who DESERVES to win a million dollars. Maybe what rescue groups need to do is start a lottery "pool" to shorten the odds some. Though I understand one has a better chance of beting struck by lightening than of winning a lottery. Anyhow...Dream on, and keep loving those feral cats and doing for them what no one else seems inclined to do. Even if we can't help them in big ways with a million dollars, we can help and save them, one deserving kitty soul at a time. By the way, are you aware that Newman's Own Organics (run by actor Paul Newman's youngest daughter, Nell) has come out with a line of healthy organic pet foods and all the profits, after taxes, are donated to animal welfare causes? Her father started Newman's Own some years ago to market salad dressing and pasta sauce (to start with) from his own private family recipes and all the profits are donated to education. He is only one of two celebrities I've ever met in person (the other is Bo Derek who breeds Andalusian horses and is also devoted to animal welfare causes). In 1964, when I was still in high school, I went to the U.S. Pony Club National Rally (though I could not afford to take my own horse and compete) which was hosted by the club of my pen pal and held in Westport, CT. My pen pal, Star, sometimes babysat for a family that lived across the road from the Newmans, who live in Greenwich which is next to Westport. Nell Newman was about 4-5 years old then and would sometimes play with the little girl my pen pal babysat. We ended up taking Nell and the other little girl with us to the New York World's Fair while I was visiting and when we took her home, I go to meet her father, who was barbecuing in the back yard -- yes, his eyes are really that blue! That she would grow up to spin off an organic pet food company from her father's charitable food business puts she and her father among the wealthy celebs that I do admire. Lov
RE: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?
Title: Message Well Angel’s Gate on Long Island, NY lists itself as a hospice….. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist? Hi all Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?
When it’s borderline, is it like 6? My papa was somewhere between 6.5 and 7, but was considered to be alkali. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Michelle, How's Lucy? Thank you for that tip. She has a large bladder stone, no crystals, and her ph was borderline so they could not tell which kind of stone, struvite or oxylate. We are trying the food that helps with struvite, as well as some chinese herbs used to dissolve bladder stones, to see if that works. It's been a month and she has a recheck on Monday. If the stone is smaller we will continue this way. If not, she needs surgery, which is a big deal because she is FeLV+ (if she needs surgery I am going to start her on feline interferon a week or two beforehand). If she gets surgery, I will find out what kind of stone it is, and if it is the appropriate kind I will try what you recommended. I am filing it for future use anyway. Thanks, Michelle In a message dated 3/3/05 12:35:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sorry to budge in, but I was wondering about Lucy’s condition regarding blood in urine? Does she have crystals in urine? What is her urine ph level? If it’s too alkali which has been for one of my FIV positive cat, Papa. I have something I finally found which is working for Papa. He used to have incidents of he had to pee all the time, and blood will come out instead of urine every 2 to 3 weeks or so, and antibiotics do not work, but with L-methonian (? – I can’t spell) – he is problem free now!!
Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?
Yes, it was 6 exactly, so more acidic than papa's but borderline. Michelle In a message dated 3/3/05 1:59:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When itâs borderline, is it like 6? My papa was somewhere between 6.5 and 7, but was considered to be alkali.
RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?
Thank you for correcting it, Belinda (I am Japanese, and don't know how to spell things correctly sometime). I think you should definitely try once it's confirmed that she needs "acidifier" - because I tried Vitamin C, all sorts of different herbs, cranberry juice, and etc. Nothing really worked completely for a long time consistently until I used L methionine (I use L instead of DL since I can't get DL - but I know DL is better than L) Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Michelle, How's Lucy? I think that is suppose to be DL methionine, my Skeeter was on this for years when he was diagnosed with cyrstals, he also had no problem after he started it. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?
I think that is suppose to be DL methionine, my Skeeter was on this for years when he was diagnosed with cyrstals, he also had no problem after he started it. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
That is wonderful...if it works, I book marked it and will maybe look into it later...Thanks so much, anything we can do to be proactive is great in my book. Cherietamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?
Title: Message Hi all Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?
Thank you for that tip. She has a large bladder stone, no crystals, and her ph was borderline so they could not tell which kind of stone, struvite or oxylate. We are trying the food that helps with struvite, as well as some chinese herbs used to dissolve bladder stones, to see if that works. It's been a month and she has a recheck on Monday. If the stone is smaller we will continue this way. If not, she needs surgery, which is a big deal because she is FeLV+ (if she needs surgery I am going to start her on feline interferon a week or two beforehand). If she gets surgery, I will find out what kind of stone it is, and if it is the appropriate kind I will try what you recommended. I am filing it for future use anyway. Thanks, Michelle In a message dated 3/3/05 12:35:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sorry to budge in, but I was wondering about Lucyâs condition regarding blood in urine? Does she have crystals in urine? What is her urine ph level? If itâs too alkali which has been for one of my FIV positive cat, Papa. I have something I finally found which is working for Papa. He used to have incidents of he had to pee all the time, and blood will come out instead of urine every 2 to 3 weeks or so, and antibiotics do not work, but with L-methonian (? â I canât spell) â he is problem free now!!
Re: Effie has her angel's wings
aw, del, i'm so sorry. effie, thank you for sharing your life with us all! MC
RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?
Title: Message I am sorry to budge in, but I was wondering about Lucy’s condition regarding blood in urine? Does she have crystals in urine? What is her urine ph level? If it’s too alkali which has been for one of my FIV positive cat, Papa. I have something I finally found which is working for Papa. He used to have incidents of he had to pee all the time, and blood will come out instead of urine every 2 to 3 weeks or so, and antibiotics do not work, but with L-methonian (? – I can’t spell) – he is problem free now!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Michelle, How's Lucy? Michelle, sending lots of positive vibes for Lucy, and hoping things continue to look better for her. Kerry Thanks for asking, Nina. I have not gotten her re-xrayed yet to see if it has shrunk. She is supposed to be xrayed this week but I have not taken her in yet and may wait until Monday. She still urinates frequently and has blood in her urine, but it does seem to me to be less blood the last few days, but I am not sure and do not want to jinx her! I'll post when I know more. Michelle In a message dated 3/2/05 4:41:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, How is Lucy doing? My dad has had some health problems this last week (he's going to be okay), and it's taken me away from the list. I take it she doesn't need surgery? Nina This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Effie has her angel's wings
Del, I am so so sorry. Like Simon, Effie has been followed so closely by this list that I, and I bet others, feel like I knew her. I am very sad to hear she is gone. She had a long run with the cancer, which is amazing, but it does not make the end any easier. Michelle
Re: outdoor arrangments (was:Tip is Gone)
I actually lock my cats in at night, because we have fishers and other creatures in the area. So they only have access to the yard during the day. Michelle In a message dated 3/2/05 10:48:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great horned owls have been known to kill and eat cats too. We have a lot of them hoo-hooing in our neighborhood at night.Bonnie
RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?
Title: Message Michelle, sending lots of positive vibes for Lucy, and hoping things continue to look better for her. Kerry Thanks for asking, Nina. I have not gotten her re-xrayed yet to see if it has shrunk. She is supposed to be xrayed this week but I have not taken her in yet and may wait until Monday. She still urinates frequently and has blood in her urine, but it does seem to me to be less blood the last few days, but I am not sure and do not want to jinx her! I'll post when I know more. Michelle In a message dated 3/2/05 4:41:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle,How is Lucy doing? My dad has had some health problems this last week (he's going to be okay), and it's taken me away from the list. I take it she doesn't need surgery?Nina This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Title: Message Loki is one fortunate little guy to have you care for him, Steve. Bless you for everything you do for him. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:21 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Hi Nina, When Loki and crew were found about 10 days old, he--the runt--especially was covered with fleas. My niece, Alisha, almost threw-up after seeing him absolutely covered with horrid monsters. They did use some toxic treatment to fix the problem. Loki was almost completely despondent, for the fleas sucking the life from him. After the fleas were eradicated, he suddenly sprang back to life with a vengeance! It brings a tear just thinking about it. Now, Loki at 9 months old has outlived all three of his siblings. Here is my theory... and I maybe total off here: It seems to me that the tiny baby kitties do not die in babyhood. It is only after they have lived months of their lives that FeLV symptoms occur. Therefore, I think they can handle certain treatments (at lesser kitten dosages of course) that are much more risky later on. I feel that if I can avoid giving my older 9 month old kitty toxins, that may or may not trigger the virus, I absolutely will. The comb right now is God to me. It is working, and I am happy again. I would recommend it to everyone who is able to comb their kitties. I recognize there are many reasons this is not possible. I now only have the one kitty and can lavish combing attention on him, so I have no reason to entertain any other solutions. I appreciate hearing of your experiences, and it will help many to know this. Thank you. Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:21 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing upSteve,I've been away from the computer for a while, so this may no longer be timely. When I found my FeLV bottle babies (didn't know it at the time), they were just over 2 weeks old. They were so infested with fleas that they were bloody from them. At that very tender age I used just a tiny amount of Advantage on them. I put some Advantage on a Q-Tip and touched the back of their necks with it. That was all that was needed to get rid of the fleas and the kittens showed no ill effects. I know it's scary putting toxic stuff on our babies, but sometimes the alternative is worse. I have since switched to Revolution for controlling fleas because it's alcohol based (instead of oil) and doesn't seem to upset my animals as much as the Advantage. Revolution also claims to control ear mites and get rid of roundworms. I never use a full tube, even on the adults. I find I can stretch a tube between 3 or 4 cats and it seems just as effective with out having to douse them in poison. Here's the link to Pet Shed were I order my Revolution, I also get Drontal (worm med) from them w/o a prescription. http://www.petshed.com/NinaSteve Williams wrote: Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure th
RE: Effie has her angel's wings
Title: Message I'm so sorry for your double loss, Del. I know how very painful it must be for you. I feel I had come to know Effie a little through your emails, and I hope the sweet memories you have of your little furball will give you comfort in the difficult days to come. Effie was one lucky and smart little kitty to have found you. She couldn't have chosen a better friend and advocate. Thinking of you, love and hugs, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del DanielsSent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:54 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Effie has her angel's wings Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven. The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life. It was awfully hard. It IS hard. You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her. My heart is broken. Thank you everyone for support and feedback. Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well. Del>^.^