Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Brenda K. Smith




Del

    Please accept my heartfelt condolences in the passing of your
precious Effie.  She was so fortunate to have your forever, loving home
and you were fortunate to have her loving, precious presence to add
wonderful things to your life.  They all teach us something I am sure. 
I know that my life is always richer for loving and caring for a
precious being who nobody else wants.  Please accept my sympathy in the
loss of your good friend, Liz.  I, too, had a wonderful friend named
Liz who passed on last week.  She was a bright, intelligent, animal
loving free spirit who touched everyone she ever met.  I'm sure your
friend Liz was the same to you.  Isn't it wonderful that she can be
there at the Bridge to show Effie the ropes while they both await your
arrival?  Effie and Liz are truly 'Shining New Angels."  I hope the
following helps somewhat to ease your grief.

Listen closely..

  S..
  there!
  did you hear that?
  just the softest rustle.
  a little breeze
  just barely moving the leaves
  on that tree over there?
  No..
  close.but somehow not.
  The sound,
  more felt than heard
  when you walk barefoot
  thru soft grass in summer?
  No..
  This was even more wonderful
  than those
  yet, sad too
  as it will never be heard
  again..this way
  The sound of a shining new angel
  taking flight 


-- 


 Brenda.

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"The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette

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OT: Lovey and Merry Home! :) - Third Act! LONG!

2005-03-03 Thread Brenda K. Smith




Hi All..

    Peggy, would you please pass this on to Tinley?  Thanks.

    Also, thank you Dan for your leg of the trip.  I understand it
wasn't so special. :) You are a good man. 

    I left off with going to meet Tom at the Wisconsin Dells.  We
arrived between 10:00 and 10:30 PM.  We had a few words with Tom and
thanked him again profusely.  When he opened his car door the tom cat
smell just about floored us. lol  Poor Tom. :(  We got the cats
transferred to our car and thanked Tom again.  He took off for home and
we decided to find an out of the way place in the Dells.  We were tired
and knew the cats would appreciate getting out of the kennels.  Also,
since we hadn't brought any gas masks I knew we needed to do some
cleaning up. lol

    Just a few blocks from the pick up we found a small place called
The Malibu Inn.  It is owned and operated by a very nice Turkish
family.  My daughter went to check to see if they had a quiet room and
if they would accept cats.  Janine thought she shouldn't say anything
in case they wouldn't let us check in.  I suggested she play it by
ear.  I wanted to stay in the car with the cats.  Anyway, a little
later I saw the man owner take her to a room so that she could check it
out.  She came over to the car and said she thought it was fine and we
could check in with the cats as long as they remained kenneled.  We
just looked at each other because we knew we weren't going to leave
them all night in the kennels, but we let the owner think that.  I had
brought Ozium spray for odors, a disinfectant to clean the kennels and
spray things around the motel room.  I've seen too many programs on the
supposed cleanliness of motel/hotel room. :)  We also brought Nature's
Miracle in case Lovey sprayed.

    The man owner kept hanging around trying to be helpful and I just
wanted him to leave us alone so that we could get the cats out of the
car.  We didn't want him to smell the inside of the car or the cats or
he surely wouldn't have let us check in. lol  We left the car running
with the heat on and took everything in but the cats.  We also didn't
want to take a chance that one of the cats would get out the door while
bringing things into the room.  We got everything in and about to go
get the cats in when he knocked on our door.  I forget what he wanted,
but he was just trying to be helpful.  After we got rid of him, we ran
out to the car (parked in front of our room) and got the cats into the
room.  Within seconds the entire room was permeated with Lovey's tom
cat smell.  It was intense.  I asked my daughter to get a plastic bag
out of the car and I let the cats out of the kennels.  Lovey had a big
blue towel and a folded sheet which were saturated with urine.  I
shoved those into the bag, tied it and asked Janine to put it in the
trunk until we could find an outside waste container.  I then
disinfected his kennel, dried it out and put fresh bedding in.  We also
started spraying the parts of the room that the cats weren't in.  They
were afraid of the spray so just sprayed away from them.

    Meanwhile, Lovey and Merry are still eating canned and dry.  I
actually fed them before I cleaned out his kennel.  Merry had a litter
box in her kennel and she had gone in it, but there was no smell.  When
they finished eating they started exploring running over both beds,
sniffing everything and just generally feeling free at last. :)  We
checked them both over and both appeared to be just fine.  Lovey had
litter stuck in his paws and we pulled out what we could without
hurting him.  Merry was very ladylike.  It took about two hours of
intermittent spraying of Ozium before we got rid of the tom cat smell. 


    We were going to go out for a late dinner, but decided we didn't
want to leave the cats alone in a strange room.  So, we broke out some
cheese (Wisconsiners you know? :) ) and crackers that we had brought
along in case we got hungry, poured a glass of wine and laid back to
watch some television while the cats explored.  We had two double beds
so they had a blast walking back and forth across our heads on the
pillows like they were looking for the path to Nirvana. lol  Lovey made
himself at home after a couple of pieces of cheese on the pillow next
to my daughter.  Merry was also enjoying some cheese with me on my bed
and she settled down by my side.  When we were ready for bed Lovey
actually had his head on Janine's hand on his pillow and she covered
him with the blanket.  That's how they slept all night.  Merry and I
slept together all night too.  Unfortunately, Janine awoke after only 4
hours of sleep and couldn't get back to sleep.  She said I was moaning
and groaning in my sleep.  Before I fell asleep my top left foot and
toes were so swollen and bruised that I couldn't stand for even the
sheet to lay on it.  Janine said she couldn't believe that I slept
through banging doors, vacuuming, etc.  I guess I was pretty exhausted
after being hurt fairly badly and then driving for

Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery

2005-03-03 Thread TatorBunz




Oh yeah..thanks for reminding me about them too!
 
In a message dated 3/3/2005 7:33:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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In a message dated 3/3/2005 1:04:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebslike those two?Kerry
We have Linda Evans around here (WA) she is another active member for animal welfare.
Geena Davis, Drew Barrymore, Tony LaRussa (sp)(Baseball Manager) for few more for the animals.
But I agree not enough stars though...

 
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Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery

2005-03-03 Thread Nina




Bob Barker, Doris Day, Betty White!

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  In a message dated 3/3/2005 1:04:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't
there more celebs
like those two?
Kerry
  
  We have Linda Evans
around here (WA) she is another active member for animal welfare.
  Geena Davis, Drew
Barrymore, Tony LaRussa (sp)(Baseball Manager) for few more for the
animals.
  But I agree not
enough stars though...
  
   
  
  
  
Terrie Mohr
  
  Check site for available Siameses for
adoption!
More will be posted soon.
  
  http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue
  
  http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html
  
  http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html
  
TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
Owner/Driver
  
Petfinder.com
Adopt a Homeless Pet!
  
  http://www.petfinder.com/
  
  http://www.orecatay.com/
  
  http://www.awca.net/index.htm
  http://www.felineleukemia.org/
  http://www.petloss.com/
  http://www.meezer.com/
  
  http://thesiamesestore.com/
  
  http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.html
  
  http://ca.siameserescue.org/
  
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  http://va.siameserescue.org/
  
  
  
  
  
  



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Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery

2005-03-03 Thread TatorBunz




In a message dated 3/3/2005 1:04:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebslike those two?Kerry
We have Linda Evans around here (WA) she is another active member for animal welfare.
Geena Davis, Drew Barrymore, Tony LaRussa (sp)(Baseball Manager) for few more for the animals.
But I agree not enough stars though...
 
 Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
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Re: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?

2005-03-03 Thread Lernermichelle




I read about a hospice service somewhere on the west coast, but it is like 
hospice care for humans-- going to the home to help with pain relief, care, etc. 
for terminally ill animals, rather than a place that takes them.
 
There is an FeLV sanctuary somewhere with a woman who has about 50 
positives at any given time and she describes herself as providing them with 
hospice care. I do not have her info, but my mom might. My mom corresponded with 
her when I first took in my 6 positives.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 3/3/05 1:50:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi all
  Just wondering---a friend asked me if I 
  knew if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone 
  else? Kerry

 


Re: outdoor arrangments (was:Tip is Gone)

2005-03-03 Thread Karolyn Lount
If you put chicken wire on the top the hawks can not get them. You need
to cover the top so the cats can not climb out of the enclosure




Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery/freecycle

2005-03-03 Thread Lernermichelle




Actually, many freecycle lists do not require that you offer anything 
before posting a request. It varies depending on who is moderating it.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 3/3/05 4:07:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
just a 
  thought. is there a www.freecycle.org  listed for your local area?in 
  case you don't know how it works, you have to register and then (at 
  leastin our area) the first post must be an Offer of something. everything 
  has tobe free. people offer things from packing materials to boats to food 
  etc.you could post as a cat rescue looking for food--that would smoke out 
  anycat lovers and perhaps you could network with them. also i googled for 
  newmexico(that is where you are,right? or did I hallucinate again?)and 
  foundthis group. perhaps they could help or know 
  others.http://www.albcat.com/

 


Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter

2005-03-03 Thread TenHouseCats
very interesting site 

sounds as if not ALL stories will be accepted; are FeLVs considered
handicapped/disabled?...

MC



Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up

2005-03-03 Thread Karolyn Lount
Hi, I use Advantage in stead of Revolution unless my cats have ear
mites. My vet will not carrie Revolution because of the amount of
chemicals in it. To save money with the Advantage use the dog size with
a syringe, without the needle, and apply the amount required for the
weight of the cat




Re: New cat litter will detect illness in cats

2005-03-03 Thread Barbara Lowe



there's a website for the litter
http://www.scooplite.com/
35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of 
anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). 

i might order it as have had problems in the past 
but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no 
problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they 
all love him...go figure...)
barbara

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  stickler 
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  Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect 
  illness in cats
  
  Here's something odd:
   
  Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract 
  infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats.  It's called 
  "SCOOP-lite".  www.petecology.com 
  for more info.
  
  
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Re: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?

2005-03-03 Thread TenHouseCats
angel's gate is the only one that i know of; there are some
"retirement homes," tho i don't have their links immediately at hand.

terri's point is very well taken: we ARE the hospices for our FeLVs
and other sick ones!

at the sanctuary, one ot the things we ran across was WHO/WHAT the cat
was: we were great for ferals and strays, because we were a warm
place, with constant food, medical care, and, for those who wanted it,
human attention. but cats who had been housecats did horribly. they
had come to expect a very different level of, um, creature comforts
than we could supply.

some of that had to do with space and person-power, but even more with
our state's Dept of Agriculture regs: we couldn't have anything that
wasn't disinfectable--so no comfy armchairs, no bed with real
mattresses, no carpeted cat-trees or upholestered cubby-holes. we had
lots of washable pillows and beds and mats galore, but for a spoiled
housecat, it just wasn't enough.

i expect that finding volunteers to help in a hospice setting would be
difficult, too--it got to where i stated very clearly in our volunteer
write-ups that, in a FeLV sanctuary setting, cats DIE... most of the
FeLV came in healthy, and were healthy for varying amounts of
time--and volunteers still had trouble with their going to the bridge.
imagine in a setting where sooner-rather-than-later demise is a
given

MC 


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Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter

2005-03-03 Thread Brenda K. Smith




Barbara.

    Here you are -
http://www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/wfi0205/index.htm


-- 

 Brenda.

 http://www.whiskersandwicks.com
 http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith 
  	
"The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette

Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven.  Heaven Knows We Need Them Here.


Barbara Lowe wrote:

oh darn please send the link again as my computer 
seems to have been hungry last night and i can't find any saved stuff from 
yesterday.
barbara

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brenda K. 
  Smith 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: O.T. - Help for my 
  shelter
  
Joan

    I just went there and a 
  person needs to view the Photo Gallery page and/or The Rainbow Bridge page for 
  it to count for a donation.  One visit per day.  I visited both and 
  will do so every day that I can.

-- 

 Brenda.

 http://www.whiskersandwicks.com
 http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith 
  	
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RE: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









Del, I am so very sorry for Effie’s
passing – I am sure that there isn’t really any words which can
totally heal your pains – and I am crying with you though I don’t
anything about Effie, but I know that she was and is such a special soul for
you.

 

I read a poem one time somewhere –
it says something like “if a life is a journey, death is our destiny”
– which brought me a very interesting perspective about “life”
and death – We are all on the way to our destiny, and some gets there
sooner than others – we want lives of our beloved animals to be as long
and enjoyable possible – but eventually, we are all going to go to the
same place (in my mind) – I am hoping that all my animals who left me
first are waiting for me there if they did not already come back as another
life – it’s certainly more difficult for us who are left here to
deal with the pain than the ones who leave us perhaps – but please know
that Effie’s is at a better place now, where there is no more pain –
but her soul is still here with you – and she knows you love her and you
miss her, and she returns you the same.

 

Hugs,

 

Hideyo

 

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Message-
From:
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Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005
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Subject: Re: Effie has her angel's
wings

 

Del, I'm so sorry about
Effie's passing, you and your husband must be missing her so much.  Didn't
you say she used to sleep with you at night?  We're so blessed to know and
love them, it's never long enough.  I hope it gives you some comfort to
know that because of you she lived and loved better and longer than she would
have without you.  Thank you for all you do for so many.
Nina

Del Daniels wrote: 







Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz,
who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven.  The pain
from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life.  It
was awfully hard.  It IS hard.  You understand, we continue to look
at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for
her.  My heart is broken.





 





Thank you everyone for support and feedback. 
Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well.





 









Del
>^.^<
Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE
Adopt a Shelter Pet
PAWS of Union County, IL
Rescue Angels On Wheels
A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart










RE: Feral cat book...to the Lottery

2005-03-03 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Sally, what a great idea! I love the idea of "Who DESERVES to Win a
Million Dollars." Lottery - it actually should interest LOTS of people
in a similar way how the TV series "Rosanne" was so popular - if you
know what I mean - Just have to figure out the way to solicit!

We just visited Oreo - poor Oreo, he was so drugged up - he did not want
to eat the treat (smoked Turkey) that we brought for him (it is one of
his favorite)- he is very scared there, I think - the doc said that he
is doing fine - but I know he is not feeling well from such a major
surgery.
I hope we can bring him back home tomorrow!

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Dear Hideyo:

I hear you loud and clear.  If I ever had any "extra" dollars to spend,
it 
sure would be nice to do more than just dream about winning the lottery.
When I 
think about all the good things I could do to help improve the lot of 
critters in this world...Oh, wouldn't it be loverly?

And then when you read about what most people who win do with all the
money 
and it makes you sick.  Buying cars and boats and vacations and
expensive homes 
and the like.  Not so different than what far too many
people/celebrities who 
accumulate great wealth do with their bounty...conspicuous
over-consumption.  
Which is why I am always very impressed with those who do use some of
their 
wealth to support worthy causes.  But I've found it often isn't the
wealthiest 
who are the most generous (comparitively) but those who have little to
give, 
yet still give of themselves and their limited $-resources with all the 
generosity a caring heart can manage.

It is one of the things that makes me question if we do have a creator
up 
there who is looking out for us and pulling the strings.  If that IS the
case, I 
don't have a lot of respect for the way He/She is managing things down
here. 
If it were up to me, I would make sure that the "lucky" ones to win
those 
lotteries were people who would do the most good with it, and I sure
wouldn't allow 
innocent children and critters to suffer the way they so often do.  So,
I am 
more inclined to see life as a big crap shoot in which "Shit Happens!"
and you 
just have to deal with whatever comes your way and try to keep smiling, 
somehow.  Being a good and kind and loving person (or the opposite)
really doesn't 
have much to do with the cards you are dealt. The only real choice we
have is 
how we choose to play whatever cards we get dealt.  We can cry about it
and 
complain or we can make the best of it that we are able.

I'd like to see a game show "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars."
Maybe 
people could write in and tell what they would do if they were able to
win a 
million dollars and those who had the most noble causes or worthy ideas
would be 
given a chance to play and win.  Fat chance though, when you consider
that so 
many in our society are more interested in what happens to the glamorous

celebrities and the death of someone like Princess Diana (not that Diana
didn't 
attempt to do some good in the world) gains more attention than Mother
Theresa, 
who died about the same time.  Movie and sports stars make huge salaries
for 
entertaining us, yet those who make far more important contributions to
our 
society, like teachers, put in far more hours for salaries that are a
pittance, by 
comparison.  And then there are those stupid reality shows where people 
compete to win a million dollars and are rewarded for being conniving
and ruthless 
instead of for the real skills that make survival in a REAL situation
most 
meaningful...ingenuity, cooperation and a willingness to help others,
not just 
yourself.

You, Hideyo, are definitely of those who DESERVES to win a million
dollars. 
Maybe what rescue groups need to do is start a lottery "pool" to shorten
the 
odds some.  Though I understand one has a better chance of beting struck
by 
lightening than of winning a lottery.

Anyhow...Dream on, and keep loving those feral cats and doing for them
what 
no one else seems inclined to do.  Even if we can't help them in big
ways with 
a million dollars, we can help and save them, one deserving kitty soul
at a 
time.

By the way, are you aware that Newman's Own Organics (run by actor Paul 
Newman's youngest daughter, Nell) has come out with a line of healthy
organic pet 
foods and all the profits, after taxes, are donated to animal welfare
causes?  
Her father started Newman's Own some years ago to market salad dressing
and 
pasta sauce (to start with) from his own private family recipes and all
the 
profits are donated to education.  He is only one of two celebrities
I've ever met 
in person (the other is Bo Derek who breeds Andalusian horses and is
also 
devoted to animal welfare causes).  In 1964, when I was still in high
school, I 
went to the U.S. Pony Club

RE: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?

2005-03-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Thanks 
Chris.

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On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:56 
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: off-topic: 
do hospices for pets exist?

Well Angel’s Gate on 
Long 
Island, NY lists itself as a 
hospice…..
 

Chris
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Hi 
all

Just 
wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've 
never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry

 
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Re: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?

2005-03-03 Thread Terri Brown
Title: Message




If you think about it, all of us who take in FeLV+ cats are running 
"hospices" of sorts...
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

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  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:55 
  PM
  Subject: RE: off-topic: do hospices for 
  pets exist?
  
  
  Well Angel’s Gate on 
  Long 
  Island, NY lists itself as a 
  hospice…..
   
  
  Chris
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  exist?
   
  
  
  Hi 
  all
  
  Just 
  wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've 
  never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry
  
   
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RE: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Sue Feldbusch
Del,
You were a big help to me when I came on the board with my felv+ cat.  I am 
sorry to hear about Effie.

From: "Del Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: 
Subject: Effie has her angel's wings
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:54:09 -0600
Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, 
is taking care of her in heaven.  The pain from the growing mass against 
her spine took away her quality of life.  It was awfully hard.  It IS hard. 
 You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those 
places are empty ... and I cry for her.  My heart is broken.

Thank you everyone for support and feedback.  Without these groups, she 
would never have lived this long or this well.

Del
>^.^<
Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE
Adopt a Shelter Pet
PAWS of Union County, IL
Rescue Angels On Wheels
A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart




Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Nina




Del, I'm so sorry about Effie's passing, you and your husband must be
missing her so much.  Didn't you say she used to sleep with you at
night?  We're so blessed to know and love them, it's never long
enough.  I hope it gives you some comfort to know that because of you
she lived and loved better and longer than she would have without you. 
Thank you for all you do for so many.
Nina

Del Daniels wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  Effie left us this morning
and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in
heaven.  The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her
quality of life.  It was awfully hard.  It IS hard.  You understand, we
continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty
... and I cry for her.  My heart is broken.
   
  Thank you everyone for
support and feedback.  Without these groups, she would never have lived
this long or this well.
   
  
  
  Del
>^.^<
Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE
Adopt a Shelter Pet
PAWS of Union County, IL
Rescue Angels On Wheels
A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart





Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp

2005-03-03 Thread carlas
I signed I will forward to other too!



Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery/freecycle

2005-03-03 Thread Barbara Lowe
just a thought. is there a www.freecycle.org  listed for your local area?
in case you don't know how it works, you have to register and then (at least
in our area) the first post must be an Offer of something. everything has to
be free. people offer things from packing materials to boats to food etc.
you could post as a cat rescue looking for food--that would smoke out any
cat lovers and perhaps you could network with them. also i googled for new
mexico(that is where you are,right? or did I hallucinate again?)and found
this group. perhaps they could help or know others.
http://www.albcat.com/

but if you're not in new mexico then no help. where are you?
regards
Barbara
what's ironic is that anytime i try to help a feral group locally, they are
very closed mouth for fear of people dropping off more cats.





RE: Feral cat book...to the Lottery

2005-03-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
What a wonderful read, Sally, from start to finish. And, I wouldn't be
at all surprised if young Sally actually played some part, even if only
in a chance comment, in molding young Nell, maybe even influencing
Nell's dad, in terms of what they are and do for animals today.
We're all connected, and stranger things have happened! 
I bought Newman's Own pet food from Wholefood's about 9 months ago but
none of my bunch seemed thrilled with it, which is a great pity, because
I'd much rather buy it knowing the profits were going to animal welfare.
Maybe I'll try it again--I still have the original bag with about half
the contents left--d'you think it's still useable?
I didn't know about Bo Derek. Good for her. Why aren't there more celebs
like those two?
Kerry



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Dear Hideyo:

I hear you loud and clear.  If I ever had any "extra" dollars to spend,
it 
sure would be nice to do more than just dream about winning the lottery.
When I 
think about all the good things I could do to help improve the lot of 
critters in this world...Oh, wouldn't it be loverly?

And then when you read about what most people who win do with all the
money 
and it makes you sick.  Buying cars and boats and vacations and
expensive homes 
and the like.  Not so different than what far too many
people/celebrities who 
accumulate great wealth do with their bounty...conspicuous
over-consumption.  
Which is why I am always very impressed with those who do use some of
their 
wealth to support worthy causes.  But I've found it often isn't the
wealthiest 
who are the most generous (comparitively) but those who have little to
give, 
yet still give of themselves and their limited $-resources with all the 
generosity a caring heart can manage.

It is one of the things that makes me question if we do have a creator
up 
there who is looking out for us and pulling the strings.  If that IS the
case, I 
don't have a lot of respect for the way He/She is managing things down
here. 
If it were up to me, I would make sure that the "lucky" ones to win
those 
lotteries were people who would do the most good with it, and I sure
wouldn't allow 
innocent children and critters to suffer the way they so often do.  So,
I am 
more inclined to see life as a big crap shoot in which "Shit Happens!"
and you 
just have to deal with whatever comes your way and try to keep smiling, 
somehow.  Being a good and kind and loving person (or the opposite)
really doesn't 
have much to do with the cards you are dealt. The only real choice we
have is 
how we choose to play whatever cards we get dealt.  We can cry about it
and 
complain or we can make the best of it that we are able.

I'd like to see a game show "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars."
Maybe 
people could write in and tell what they would do if they were able to
win a 
million dollars and those who had the most noble causes or worthy ideas
would be 
given a chance to play and win.  Fat chance though, when you consider
that so 
many in our society are more interested in what happens to the glamorous

celebrities and the death of someone like Princess Diana (not that Diana
didn't 
attempt to do some good in the world) gains more attention than Mother
Theresa, 
who died about the same time.  Movie and sports stars make huge salaries
for 
entertaining us, yet those who make far more important contributions to
our 
society, like teachers, put in far more hours for salaries that are a
pittance, by 
comparison.  And then there are those stupid reality shows where people 
compete to win a million dollars and are rewarded for being conniving
and ruthless 
instead of for the real skills that make survival in a REAL situation
most 
meaningful...ingenuity, cooperation and a willingness to help others,
not just 
yourself.

You, Hideyo, are definitely of those who DESERVES to win a million
dollars. 
Maybe what rescue groups need to do is start a lottery "pool" to shorten
the 
odds some.  Though I understand one has a better chance of beting struck
by 
lightening than of winning a lottery.

Anyhow...Dream on, and keep loving those feral cats and doing for them
what 
no one else seems inclined to do.  Even if we can't help them in big
ways with 
a million dollars, we can help and save them, one deserving kitty soul
at a 
time.

By the way, are you aware that Newman's Own Organics (run by actor Paul 
Newman's youngest daughter, Nell) has come out with a line of healthy
organic pet 
foods and all the profits, after taxes, are donated to animal welfare
causes?  
Her father started Newman's Own some years ago to market salad dressing
and 
pasta sauce (to start with) from his own private family recipes and all
the 
profits are donated to education.  He is only one of two celebrities
I've ever met 
in person (the other i

Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Actually, I'm not sure I spelled it correctly either, I was adding 
the D because I didn't know there was just an L methionine :))

--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com
FeLV Candle Light Service
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Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery

2005-03-03 Thread Skf95111
Dear Hideyo:

I hear you loud and clear.  If I ever had any "extra" dollars to spend, it 
sure would be nice to do more than just dream about winning the lottery.  When 
I 
think about all the good things I could do to help improve the lot of 
critters in this world...Oh, wouldn't it be loverly?

And then when you read about what most people who win do with all the money 
and it makes you sick.  Buying cars and boats and vacations and expensive homes 
and the like.  Not so different than what far too many people/celebrities who 
accumulate great wealth do with their bounty...conspicuous over-consumption.  
Which is why I am always very impressed with those who do use some of their 
wealth to support worthy causes.  But I've found it often isn't the wealthiest 
who are the most generous (comparitively) but those who have little to give, 
yet still give of themselves and their limited $-resources with all the 
generosity a caring heart can manage.

It is one of the things that makes me question if we do have a creator up 
there who is looking out for us and pulling the strings.  If that IS the case, 
I 
don't have a lot of respect for the way He/She is managing things down here. 
If it were up to me, I would make sure that the "lucky" ones to win those 
lotteries were people who would do the most good with it, and I sure wouldn't 
allow 
innocent children and critters to suffer the way they so often do.  So, I am 
more inclined to see life as a big crap shoot in which "Shit Happens!" and you 
just have to deal with whatever comes your way and try to keep smiling, 
somehow.  Being a good and kind and loving person (or the opposite) really 
doesn't 
have much to do with the cards you are dealt. The only real choice we have is 
how we choose to play whatever cards we get dealt.  We can cry about it and 
complain or we can make the best of it that we are able.

I'd like to see a game show "Who DESERVES to Win a Million Dollars." Maybe 
people could write in and tell what they would do if they were able to win a 
million dollars and those who had the most noble causes or worthy ideas would 
be 
given a chance to play and win.  Fat chance though, when you consider that so 
many in our society are more interested in what happens to the glamorous 
celebrities and the death of someone like Princess Diana (not that Diana didn't 
attempt to do some good in the world) gains more attention than Mother Theresa, 
who died about the same time.  Movie and sports stars make huge salaries for 
entertaining us, yet those who make far more important contributions to our 
society, like teachers, put in far more hours for salaries that are a pittance, 
by 
comparison.  And then there are those stupid reality shows where people 
compete to win a million dollars and are rewarded for being conniving and 
ruthless 
instead of for the real skills that make survival in a REAL situation most 
meaningful...ingenuity, cooperation and a willingness to help others, not just 
yourself.

You, Hideyo, are definitely of those who DESERVES to win a million dollars. 
Maybe what rescue groups need to do is start a lottery "pool" to shorten the 
odds some.  Though I understand one has a better chance of beting struck by 
lightening than of winning a lottery.

Anyhow...Dream on, and keep loving those feral cats and doing for them what 
no one else seems inclined to do.  Even if we can't help them in big ways with 
a million dollars, we can help and save them, one deserving kitty soul at a 
time.

By the way, are you aware that Newman's Own Organics (run by actor Paul 
Newman's youngest daughter, Nell) has come out with a line of healthy organic 
pet 
foods and all the profits, after taxes, are donated to animal welfare causes?  
Her father started Newman's Own some years ago to market salad dressing and 
pasta sauce (to start with) from his own private family recipes and all the 
profits are donated to education.  He is only one of two celebrities I've ever 
met 
in person (the other is Bo Derek who breeds Andalusian horses and is also 
devoted to animal welfare causes).  In 1964, when I was still in high school, I 
went to the U.S. Pony Club National Rally (though I could not afford to take my 
own horse and compete) which was hosted by the club of my pen pal and held in 
Westport, CT.  My pen pal, Star, sometimes babysat for a family that lived 
across the road from the Newmans, who live in Greenwich which is next to 
Westport.  Nell Newman was about 4-5 years old then and would sometimes play 
with the 
little girl my pen pal babysat.  We ended up taking Nell and the other little 
girl with us to the New York World's Fair while I was visiting and when we 
took her home, I go to meet her father, who was barbecuing in the back yard -- 
yes, his eyes are really that blue!  That she would grow up to spin off an 
organic pet food company from her father's charitable food business puts she 
and 
her father among the wealthy celebs that I do admire.

Lov

RE: off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?

2005-03-03 Thread Chris
Title: Message









Well Angel’s Gate
on Long Island, NY lists itself as a hospice…..

 



Chris

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: off-topic: do hospices
for pets exist?

 





Hi all





Just
wondering---a friend asked me if I knew if there were hospices for pets. I've
never heard of one--has anyone else? Kerry





 





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RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









When it’s borderline, is
it like 6?  My papa was somewhere between
6.5 and 7, but was considered to be alkali.

 

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Thank
you for that tip.  She has a large bladder stone, no crystals, and her ph
was borderline so they could not tell which kind of stone, struvite or
oxylate.  We are trying the food that helps with struvite, as well as some
chinese herbs used to dissolve bladder stones, to see if that works. It's been
a month and she has a recheck on Monday. If the stone is smaller we will
continue this way. If not, she needs surgery, which is a big deal because she
is FeLV+ (if she needs surgery I am going to start her on feline interferon a
week or two beforehand). If she gets surgery, I will find out what kind of
stone it is, and if it is the appropriate kind I will try what you recommended.
I am filing it for future use anyway.





Thanks,





Michelle





 





 





In a
message dated 3/3/05 12:35:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I am sorry to budge in,
but I was wondering about Lucy’s condition regarding blood in urine? Does she
have crystals in urine?  What is her
urine ph level?  If
it’s too alkali which has been for one of my FIV positive cat, Papa.  I have something I finally found which is
working for Papa.  He used to have
incidents of he had to pee all the time, and blood will come out instead of
urine every 2  to 3 weeks or so, and
antibiotics do not work, but with L-methonian (? – I can’t spell) – he is
problem free now!!







 










Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Lernermichelle




Yes, it was 6 exactly, so more acidic than papa's but borderline.
 
Michelle
 
 
In a message dated 3/3/05 1:59:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When itâs borderline, 
  is it like 6?  My papa was 
  somewhere between 6.5 and 7, but was considered to be 
  alkali.

 


RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Thank you for correcting it, Belinda (I am Japanese, and don't know how
to spell things correctly sometime).

I think you should definitely try once it's confirmed that she needs
"acidifier" - because I tried Vitamin C, all sorts of different herbs,
cranberry juice, and etc. Nothing really worked completely for a long
time consistently until I used L methionine (I use L instead of DL since
I can't get DL - but I know DL is better than L)

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?

I think that is suppose to be DL methionine, my Skeeter was on 
this for years when he was diagnosed with cyrstals, he also had no 
problem after he started it.

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candle Light Service
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Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Belinda Sauro
   I think that is suppose to be DL methionine, my Skeeter was on 
this for years when he was diagnosed with cyrstals, he also had no 
problem after he started it.

--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com
FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
HostDesign4U.com  (affordable hosting & web design)
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Re: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats

2005-03-03 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
That is wonderful...if it works, I book marked it and will maybe look into it later...Thanks so much, anything we can do to be proactive is great in my book.
Cherietamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here's something odd:
 
Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats.  It's called "SCOOP-lite".  www.petecology.com for more info.


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OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats

2005-03-03 Thread tamara stickler
Here's something odd:
 
Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats.  It's called "SCOOP-lite".  www.petecology.com for more info.
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off-topic: do hospices for pets exist?

2005-03-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message






Hi all
Just wondering---a friend asked me if I knew 
if there were hospices for pets. I've never heard of one--has anyone else? 
Kerry
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Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Lernermichelle




Thank you for that tip.  She has a large bladder stone, no crystals, 
and her ph was borderline so they could not tell which kind of stone, struvite 
or oxylate.  We are trying the food that helps with struvite, as well as 
some chinese herbs used to dissolve bladder stones, to see if that works. It's 
been a month and she has a recheck on Monday. If the stone is smaller we will 
continue this way. If not, she needs surgery, which is a big deal because she is 
FeLV+ (if she needs surgery I am going to start her on feline interferon a week 
or two beforehand). If she gets surgery, I will find out what kind of stone it 
is, and if it is the appropriate kind I will try what you recommended. I am 
filing it for future use anyway.
Thanks,
Michelle
 
 
In a message dated 3/3/05 12:35:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am sorry to budge 
  in, but I was wondering about Lucyâs condition regarding blood in urine? Does 
  she have crystals in urine?  What 
  is her urine ph level?  If itâs too alkali which has been for one of my FIV positive cat, 
  Papa.  I have something I 
  finally found which is working for Papa.  
  He used to have incidents of he had to pee all the time, and blood will 
  come out instead of urine every 2  
  to 3 weeks or so, and antibiotics do not work, but with L-methonian (? 
  â I canât spell) â he is problem free 
now!!

 


Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread TenHouseCats
aw, del, i'm so sorry.

effie, thank you for sharing your life with us all!

MC



RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Title: Message









I am sorry to budge in, but I was
wondering about Lucy’s condition regarding blood in urine? Does she have
crystals in urine?  What is her urine ph
level?  If it’s
too alkali which has been for one of my FIV positive cat, Papa.  I have something I finally found which is
working for Papa.  He used to have
incidents of he had to pee all the time, and blood will come out instead of
urine every 2  to 3 weeks or so, and
antibiotics do not work, but with L-methonian (? – I can’t spell) –
he is problem free now!!

 

-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005
8:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?

 



 Michelle, sending
lots of positive vibes for Lucy, and hoping things continue to look better for
her. Kerry







Thanks for asking, Nina.  I have not gotten her re-xrayed yet
to see if it has shrunk. She is supposed to be xrayed this week but I have not
taken her in yet and may wait until Monday. She still urinates frequently and
has blood in her urine, but it does seem to me to be less blood the last few
days, but I am not sure and do not want to jinx her!  I'll post when I
know more.





Michelle





 





In a
message dated 3/2/05 4:41:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:





Michelle,
How is Lucy doing?  My dad has had some health problems this last week 
(he's going to be okay), and it's taken me away from the list.  I take 
it she doesn't need surgery?

Nina







 



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Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Lernermichelle



Del, I am so so sorry.  Like Simon, Effie has been followed so closely 
by this list that I, and I bet others, feel like I knew her.  I am very sad 
to hear she is gone.  She had a long run with the cancer, which is amazing, 
but it does not make the end any easier.
Michelle


Re: outdoor arrangments (was:Tip is Gone)

2005-03-03 Thread Lernermichelle




I actually lock my cats in at night, because we have fishers and other 
creatures in the area. So they only have access to the yard during the 
day.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 3/2/05 10:48:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Great 
  horned owls have been known to kill and eat cats too. We have a lot of 
  them hoo-hooing in our neighborhood at 
night.Bonnie

 


RE: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



 Michelle, sending 
lots of positive vibes for Lucy, and hoping things continue to look better for 
her. Kerry

Thanks for asking, Nina.  I have not gotten her re-xrayed yet to see 
if it has shrunk. She is supposed to be xrayed this week but I have not taken 
her in yet and may wait until Monday. She still urinates frequently and has 
blood in her urine, but it does seem to me to be less blood the last few days, 
but I am not sure and do not want to jinx her!  I'll post when I know 
more.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 3/2/05 4:41:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle,How is Lucy 
  doing?  My dad has had some health problems this last week (he's 
  going to be okay), and it's taken me away from the list.  I take it 
  she doesn't need surgery?Nina

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RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up

2005-03-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



 
Loki 
is one fortunate little guy to have you care for him, Steve.  Bless you 
for everything you do for him.  Kerry

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 
12:21 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki 
Advice: fleas, throwing up
Hi 
Nina,
 
When 
Loki and crew were found about 10 days old, he--the runt--especially was covered 
with fleas.  My niece, Alisha, almost threw-up after seeing him absolutely 
covered with horrid monsters.  They did use some toxic treatment to fix the 
problem.  Loki was almost completely despondent, for the fleas sucking the 
life from him.  After the fleas were eradicated, he suddenly sprang back to 
life with a vengeance!  It brings a tear just thinking about it.  Now, 
Loki at 9 months old has outlived all three of his 
siblings.
 
Here 
is my theory... and I maybe total off here:  It seems to me that the 
tiny baby kitties do not die in babyhood.  It is only after they 
have lived months of their lives that FeLV symptoms occur.  Therefore, 
I think they can handle certain treatments (at lesser kitten dosages of course) 
that are much more risky later on.
 
I feel 
that if I can avoid giving my older 9 month old kitty toxins, that may or may 
not trigger the virus, I absolutely will.
 
The 
comb right now is God to me.  It is working, and I am happy again.  I 
would recommend it to everyone who is able to comb their kitties.  I 
recognize there are many reasons this is not possible.  I now only have the 
one kitty and can lavish combing attention on him, so I have no reason to 
entertain any other solutions.
 
I 
appreciate hearing of your experiences, and it will help many to know 
this.
Thank 
you.
 
Steve
 
 
 
 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  NinaSent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:21 PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, 
  throwing upSteve,I've been away from the computer for 
  a while, so this may no longer be timely.  When I found my FeLV bottle 
  babies (didn't know it at the time), they were just over 2 weeks old.  
  They were so infested with fleas that they were bloody from them.  At 
  that very tender age I used just a tiny amount of Advantage on them.  I 
  put some Advantage on a Q-Tip and touched the back of their necks with 
  it.  That was all that was needed to get rid of the fleas and the kittens 
  showed no ill effects.  I know it's scary putting toxic stuff on our 
  babies, but sometimes the alternative is worse.  I have since switched to 
  Revolution for controlling fleas because it's alcohol based (instead of oil) 
  and doesn't seem to upset my animals as much as the Advantage.  
  Revolution also claims to control ear mites and get rid of roundworms.  I 
  never use a full tube, even on the adults.  I find I can stretch a tube 
  between 3 or 4 cats and it seems just as effective with out having to douse 
  them in poison.  Here's the link to Pet Shed were I order my Revolution, 
  I also get Drontal (worm med) from them w/o a prescription.  http://www.petshed.com/NinaSteve 
  Williams wrote:
  
Cherie,
 
I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who 
has had FeLV+ from birth.  Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent 
loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got 
me trigger-shy.  It is hard for me to impose the tiniest 
bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki.  I think I will try 
some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning.  But... I want 
those fleas gone now!  I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle 
on the carpets also.
 
Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from 
birth?
 
Steve

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 
  10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
  RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
  Steve,
  My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes 
  behind the neck.
  Cherie
  Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  

Kerry,
 
Yes, I know for sure it is fleas.  All the signs are there: 
I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can 
find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots.
 
Thanks,
Steve

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 
  2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
  RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
  Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know 
  for sure th

RE: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



I'm so 
sorry for your double loss, Del. I know how very painful it must 
be for you. I feel I had come to know Effie a little through your emails, 
and I hope the sweet memories you have of your little furball will give you 
comfort in the difficult days to come. Effie was one lucky and 
smart little kitty to have found you. She couldn't have chosen a better 
friend and advocate. 
Thinking of you, love and hugs, Kerry

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Del DanielsSent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:54 
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Effie has her 
angel's wings


Effie left us this morning and my 
friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in 
heaven.  The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her 
quality of life.  It was awfully hard.  It IS hard.  You 
understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are 
empty ... and I cry for her.  My heart is broken.
 
Thank you everyone for support and 
feedback.  Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or 
this well.
 
Del>^.^

Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Sarah Moody
I just joined this group so I do not know any of you
too good but I definitely know the heartache of losing
a kitty after their final battle.  I know it may seem
hard now but you have to think of the wonderful thing
you did for this companion.  Although Effie's life was
short, to have someone who loves her and grieves for
her made a huge impact on her life.  Their is nothing
we can do to kill this virus but the love we have for
these kitties creates a memory in our hearts that
lives on.  

Sarah  
--- Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who
> passed away last week, is taking care of her in
> heaven.  The pain from the growing mass against her
> spine took away her quality of life.  It was awfully
> hard.  It IS hard.  You understand, we continue to
> look at their favorite places and those places are
> empty ... and I cry for her.  My heart is broken.
> 
> Thank you everyone for support and feedback. 
> Without these groups, she would never have lived
> this long or this well.
> 
> Del
> >^.^<
> Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE
> Adopt a Shelter Pet
> PAWS of Union County, IL
> Rescue Angels On Wheels
> A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart

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Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Del,
I am so sorry to hear about Effie, I too shed a tear for her it is such a shame that the things we love the most can be taken from us by such dreadful illnesses. We are here for you. My thoughts are with you at this very hard time.
CherieDel Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven.  The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life.  It was awfully hard.  It IS hard.  You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her.  My heart is broken.
 
Thank you everyone for support and feedback.  Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well.
 
Del>^.^

Re: Michelle, How's Lucy?

2005-03-03 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Please keep us posted Michelle, my thought are with you sending healing vibes Lucy's way
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Thanks for asking, Nina.  I have not gotten her re-xrayed yet to see if it has shrunk. She is supposed to be xrayed this week but I have not taken her in yet and may wait until Monday. She still urinates frequently and has blood in her urine, but it does seem to me to be less blood the last few days, but I am not sure and do not want to jinx her!  I'll post when I know more.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 3/2/05 4:41:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle,How is Lucy doing?  My dad has had some health problems this last week (he's going to be okay), and it's taken me away from the list.  I take it she doesn't need surgery?Nina

 

Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread TatorBunz


Del,
    I'm so sorry to hear about your loses. Bless you for what you do for the animals. Also, sorry to hear about your friend Liz. You are right she is looking out for all the new arrivals at the bridge especially Effie. 
 
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Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter

2005-03-03 Thread Barbara Lowe



oh darn please send the link again as my computer 
seems to have been hungry last night and i can't find any saved stuff from 
yesterday.
barbara

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brenda K. 
  Smith 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: O.T. - Help for my 
  shelter
  Joan    I just went there and a 
  person needs to view the Photo Gallery page and/or The Rainbow Bridge page for 
  it to count for a donation.  One visit per day.  I visited both and 
  will do so every day that I can.-- 

 Brenda.

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 http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith 
  	
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Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Barbara Lowe



I'm so sorry. I'm sorry you lost two beloved 
friends. I hope in time you may be comforted. we all know about those empty 
places. 
barbara
 


Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread carlas

Del

I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Effie, I hope that the thought of 
Liz watching over Effie help you find some comfort.

My heart goes out to you

Carla


From:   "Del Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Date sent:  Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:54:09 -0600
Copies to:  Subject:Effie has her angel's wings
Send reply to:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

> Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last
> week, is taking care of her in heaven.  The pain from the growing mass
> against her spine took away her quality of life.  It was awfully hard.
>  It IS hard.  You understand, we continue to look at their favorite
> places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her.  My heart is
> broken.
> 
> Thank you everyone for support and feedback.  Without these groups,
> she would never have lived this long or this well.
> 
> Del
> >^.^<
> Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE
> Adopt a Shelter Pet
> PAWS of Union County, IL
> Rescue Angels On Wheels
> A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart





Re: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'm so very sorry, Del - it is so hard to lose our loved ones, and 
I'm know what you mean. Bless your heart.  So many losses, so many 
tears.  My sweet Calawalla will be checking in with them and showing 
them around.

Gloria
Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last 
week, is taking care of her in heaven.  The pain from the growing 
mass against her spine took away her quality of life.  It was awfully 
hard.  It IS hard.  You understand, we continue to look at their 
favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her.  My 
heart is broken.

Thank you everyone for support and feedback.  Without these groups, 
she would never have lived this long or this well.

Del
^.^<
Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE
Adopt a Shelter Pet
PAWS of Union County, IL
Rescue Angels On Wheels
A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart



RE: Effie has her angel's wings

2005-03-03 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



Del,
 
I am 
so sorry for the many losses you have had to endure.  The ups and downs of 
rescue, disease and life itself is sometimes very hard.  But there are the 
ups as well, the saving, the love and the caring and this is what it is all 
about.
 
Take 
care,
 
Joan

  
  -Original Message-From: Del Daniels 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:54 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Effie has her 
  angel's wings
  
  
  Effie left us this morning and my 
  friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in 
  heaven.  The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her 
  quality of life.  It was awfully hard.  It IS hard.  You 
  understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are 
  empty ... and I cry for her.  My heart is broken.
   
  Thank you everyone for support and 
  feedback.  Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or 
  this well.
   
  Del>^.^

RE: O.T. - Help for my shelter

2005-03-03 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



Thank 
you!

  
  -Original Message-From: Brenda K. Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:00 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: O.T. - 
  Help for my shelterJoan    
  I just went there and a person needs to view the Photo Gallery page and/or The 
  Rainbow Bridge page for it to count for a donation.  One visit per 
  day.  I visited both and will do so every day that I can.-- 

 Brenda.

 http://www.whiskersandwicks.com
 http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith 
  	
"The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette

Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven.  Heaven Knows We Need Them Here.