As already mentioned via several of our members, and I
have to agree, not all fungi will glow under a
Wood's Black Lamp/Light. Cats CAN have skin/hair fungi
infections that do NOT put off a neon yellowish or
greenish glow.
Just because neither you nor your vet cannot see a
glow does NOT imply
Ringworm in humans generally doesn't present as spots. It will generally look
like circles under your skin and can itch. Drove me mad itching i thought it
was prickly heat.
The iodiene did stop the spores spreading from Bramble to Minstrel and Buddy
though - they didn't get it and they are in
Thank you everyone for your very kind welcome, and for taking time to offer
suggestions. I feel better already!
My main focus right now is the little orange guy, Cotton. I don't want to
treat him as if he isn't going to be with us for a long time. I would like
to see him eventually neutered
Sandy,
my baby C God rest his soul never grew to adult size. He stayed tiny he was
born positive and lived to be 2 1/2.
Lucy seems to be better today. I will keep you posted. I started
mixing slippery elm and a kaolin powder for cats (like kaopectate but for cats)
with warm water into a gel-like paste and giving her about a spoonful 3
times/day plus once a day an acidophilus pill. I also gave her some W/D
Hi Sandy,
I hope this post finds you in better spirits than
yesterday. I first want to say hello to a fellow
Texan. I lived in Houston for a few years and my
parents and brothers have lived there for years until
recently. The great thing about living in the big
city of Houston is that you
Just curious:
How many of you know without a shadow of a doubt that
one of your cats contracted FeLV by coming into
contact with a FeLV positive by means of grooming,
food, water, or litter (ie. NOT by means of a fight or
via birth). I am interested to hear what the results
will be. Thanks!
I wrote a message here some time ago about an FeLV positive cat a friend
had rescued (now called Bungle). He's been doing really well, he's had a course
of feline omega interferon which appears to have helped. He's eating really well
now, has put on weight and his coat is so glossy.
As
Does anyone know what the FDA regs are on importing drugs for veterinary
use? I have recently read an article about a study done on FIV+ cats in
Italy and they used the natural interferon alpha and found it to be much more
effective than the recombinant version. The study also referred to
Hi, Michelle, though I have not confirmed scientifically whether the
kittens and the mother have ringworm (black lights were all sold out due
to Halloween yesterday at stores) - I am pretty sure that's what they
have -
Because I have a couple of circle red spots on me none of
other
Will iodine actually cure the problem, or
just stops itching..
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8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens
My daughter
Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to thank you all again for your kind words of support. My
mother has taken Emilio and Frito's mommy, and she's named her Lady.
Lady tested negative for FeLv, but we're worried that she might test
positive once the virus has had a chance to incubate (again??). She's
Are you talking about interferon omega, also called Feline Interferon or
Virbagen Omega? A few of us have imported that, and we have all the forms in
electronic version, and Nina's vet has put together a packet she sends out to
anyone interested. Basically, the vet needs to send an
Kerry,
There are different kinds of fluid bags, I know because I go to two
different vets and get fluids from both (one is the vet school because
I see a specialist there).
I suggest calling your vet's office and talk to a tech. On Fu's bag,
which I can see from here, there is a sort of
Contact the Marley Fund in NC. They are an organization devoted solely to
raising money for research on FeLV and for finding homes for FeLV+ cats (they
have a very small shelter). They have a website. They do all
different kinds of fundraising and I am sure would love your help. Seems
I have tried lamasil and always go back to blue
star
iodine seems very slow but works..
Sandy C:
Greetings from yet another fellow Houstonian (what area? we are east side).
High quality food and immune boosting supplements will go a long way towards giving Cotton the fuel he needs to gain weight and strength. As you are already seeing - this is a great list full of members with
I have had 2 positive cats among a household of 13 and none of the other cats have contracted FeLV! One of my positives did pass away in June and the other was just re-tested and confirmed to now be negative!
Chris
-- Original message -- Just curious: How many of you
Chrissy,
Just because one tests positive does NOT mean that another will, even
littermates. I rescued 6, 2 1/2 week old kittens that I am sure
contracted felv from their momma. One of the kittens from that litter,
Tim, (now 2 yrs), has tested negative. I'm sorry to hear you are giving
up
No, this in Interferon Alpha but is is natural interferon made from live
donors, not the Interferon alpha that you can buy here which is made with
recombinant cells. The recombinant is made from only one strain of cells
and the natural stuff is made from numerous donors. It seems to work a
Iodine has cured my ringworm several times (don't
know where I got it, but none of my cats had it then nor got it from me) but
this time it must be a different strain as it helped but did not cure the
RW. Lamisil can work ... again this strain it didn't budge
itmuch. I've used a variety of
Iodiene just helps to stop the fungal spores from spreading.
It doesn't have any therapeutic effect but I think just the fact it is cold
from the fridge that gives a little soothing effect for them. It is also good
for preventing secondary bacterial infection (like bacterial folliculitis)
I've just spoken to my friend Mary who's just got back from the vets for
the re-test. She hadn't told me another of the cats that she'd rescued from the
same house was ill. She'd had her to a different vet yesterday because she had a
terrible mouth ulcer and was running a temperature. The
Chrissy,
I think the Christmas cards are a great idea! In the
way of research, a place to start might be the
Veterinary Department at Texas AM University. It's
the only vet school in Texas so I think the majority
of veterinarians in Texas go to school there and I
believe it has a great research
Gary,
Thanks for the info. I didn't know you could import
it for use in your own home. When you said personal
use, I assume you meant for your cats? lol. I have
read that the feline Interferon is much more
effective. I tried to research how to get it, but it
said it was only available in
None of mine ever did this way.
This is an interesting poll. I too would like to see the results.
Thanks for bringing this up.
In a message dated 11/1/2005 8:22:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just curious:How many of you know without a shadow of a doubt thatone of your
I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you
would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin.
I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to
the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an
animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can
anyone give me the simple
Awesome! Congratulations on your negative kitty! I
am sorry to hear about your kitty that passed away in
June. It's also good to know I'm not the only one
with cats in the double digits! We have some inside
and some outside. Never alone though! lol.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have had
Wendy,
If you want to get the feline Interferon Omega, (apparently Gary is
talking about something different here), you have to get a special
dispensation from the FDA. My vet has made up a packet to help people's
vets apply. I've sent the info to the list many times, if you are
interested,
I will send out the results when they are all in.
Maybe one of these research facilities would be
interested in the results of real FeLV kitty owners as
well.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
None of mine ever did this way.
This is an interesting poll. I too would like to see
the results.
Yes, I am definitely interested. Thanks Nina!
--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wendy,
If you want to get the feline Interferon Omega,
(apparently Gary is
talking about something different here), you have to
get a special
dispensation from the FDA. My vet has made up a
packet to help
You've got it right. You use a bag for hydration, (not IV, IV means
into the vein), because they need more fluid than what you could fit
into a syringe. Once a cat that is dehydrated figures out how much
better they feel after they get fluids, they usually settle down and
accept the process,
Thanks Nina. I just called my vet because I'm taking
Cricket in for another ImmunoRegulin injection today,
and asked about subQ fluids. They said they could do
it if he is dehydrated and it is not expensive. I
would be very uncomfortable doing it, but I think
Cricket could use the extra fluids.
Ok guys, re my 1am Pookie problem (fluid level was not discernible in my
new Ringer's bag so I cdn't proceed), a rescue/shelter volunteer I
called this morning said I should unscrew the hose, open the bag up
and let air in (don't feel dumb Wendy!). I did that and the fluid level
magically
Wendy, believe me, if someone like me-- a technophobe with 10
thumbs--can do it (and I certainly haven't got it down yet--I go 2-3
needles most times) YOU can definitely do it. It sure saves $$$,
especially when it's every other day. If it's a one-off though that
Cricket needs, then yes, I would
How long do you have to do subQ for it to be
effective? Is there usually an amount of days or
weeks that it finally takes effect, or does it vary
with every animal? I would do it (especially if it
saves money), but only if I felt fully informed, you
know?
--- MacKenzie, Kerry N.
[EMAIL
Laura wasn't the one who left the two calico kittens at the vet's. She was
adopting them out to Louise, and Louise, the adopter, took them to her own vet
and left them (presumably because she had to go to work). The calico kittens
were not euthanized without permission - Louise did call Laura
Hello My Dear,
My you have your hands full with this learning curve! You and Pookie,
(congratulations btw!), will figure all this out in no time and you'll
be feeling like an old pro. I haven't had to administer subq fluids
that often, so I don't know how much help I can be to you. I don't
Hi, Kerry, I don't mean to brag - but now, I have been giving my
Hannibal fluid a couple of times a week several months now, and having
been educated by lots of educated people from CRF group, I am a bit
experience in giving a fluid --
As for your number 2) question, if the water still does not
Wendy, I second to Kerry - I am the last person who can poke a cat with
a needle - I usually almost faint when I see a needle.. now from the
desperation to save my Hannibal's life, I have been giving and also have
given Leo and others fluid sort of on going basis - not to mention,
Hannibal is a
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:16:47 EST
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OH MY GOD!!!
That is total bullsh*t!
Sorry if I offended anyone but that is unnecessary!
Oh that makes me blood boil when I hear these stories.
I'm so glad you changed Vets! Thank and Bless You too!
In a message dated 11/1/2005 2:20:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When
Ladies,
I think a letter writing campain is necessary.if sandy wishes to give
up the name and address..this vet should be shot
Ok guys, re my 1am Pookie problem (fluid level was not discernible
in my
new Ringer's bag so I cdn't proceed), a rescue/shelter volunteer I
called this morning said I should unscrew the hose, open the bag up
and let air in (don't feel dumb Wendy!). I did that and the fluid
levelmagically
Absolutely.. if I did not have all the
cats to take care of .. I would shoot this vet myself to honor the lives of
these babies who were killed by him/her..
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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005
3:47 PM
I agree that this vet needs some serious education, but I try not to burn
bridges, as much as I would like to. This might be a goodopportunity
to save more cats fromher ill advice.She will definitely not
get any more of my business, and I will certainly tell her why. And I have
a big family
Hi Sandy
sorry to come off that way our bark is worse than our bite. When I write
letters they are very professional and I never tell them I want to shoot
themits just venting...
I have been doing rescue for 20 years and find I dislike people in general
more and more...
I just got
It's such a shame what some vets do. I kind of hope you told them why.
Gloria
On Nov 1, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Dudes wrote:
When I was checking out at my vets office after she saw little orange
Cotton, the tech who checked me out told me how they acquired a
litter of 10
kittens at the office.
Michelle,I ordered the paper last week, and this
natural human ifn (Alfaferone) usesseveral human
IFN-a subtypes, including IFN-a1, a2, -a8 and -a21It is reminiscent
of some of the earlier studies on FeLV FIVthat usedeither a
natural interferon (was then referred to as a
'Cantell'
I have a question. Well, it is more of looking for
some personal advice on an issue.
I have been off and on the FeLVtalk list for three (3)
years now, but ever since the Massive Spraying issue
back in 12-14-04 I very rarely receive responses from
my posts. It is almost as if me and the group have
'Glenda,
I don't know how much Interferon Omega costs but
the natural interferon I got the pricing on (Multiferon manufactured by Veragin)
works out to $70 for a 3 million unit vial and if my math is correct that should
make 100,000 30 unit doses. That is enough for 274 cats for a year if
Lora,
I think I remember you. Wow that's a tough personal choice. Be extra
careful with litter boxes toxo is deadly to a growing baby.
no flaming why would anyone flame you?
If you asked me when I was in my 20's having my kids I would say no
sweat...
now my best recommendation is take in a
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