Hi, I have been rescuing FeLV+ cats and kittens for 14yrs. And other
cats andkittens that are not adoptable for one reason or another. I have
mixed my + - and in all these years only 2 negatives became positive
and the vet told me they may have been + but tested negative because the
virus was in
She's adorable. Calicos are really special! What a dollface! You must miss her and I'm sure she misses you too!
Marissa
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Hi all I put a few pics up of Maizee in the Rainbow bridge album at the OT web.Just wanted to share her sweet face with you
Ah Presto, you and Everett sound like our kind of people! We seem to
have some things in common, I devote myself to rescuing those animals I
can, (not on your scale though!). I maintain two small colonies of
ferals and my house is full of rescues. I have even enclosed the back
of my house,
She's about 6-8 months old and she is tabby on top and white on the bottom. Very cute!! From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Just Ducky To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Congratulations Rachel! And that's
Oh Tad, I'm so very sorry about Callie. I know it's hard to see the
blessings when you're in so much pain, but it is a blessing that she was
strong and well up until her last days. That's the way I would choose
to go, if I were given a choice. She sounds like such a special girl,
and you
Helene,
I was so impressed by reading about Sammy's recovery and
weight gain. I am wondering what his symptoms were when he was sick. I assume he
was anemic due to the procrit; if so, how low did his hematocrit or rbc
go? What were the other symptoms? I am used to thinking that severe
Oh Sherry! Your Maizee Grace is/was so adorable! She stole my heart
with just her picture, I can certainly see why you were so devoted.
What a doll.
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Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Hi all I put a few pics up of Maizee in the
Rainbow bridge album at the OT web.Just wanted to share her sweet face
Ducky is a tuxie/tabby! My newest arrival, Pistol Pete, is a
tuxie/tabby too! Way too cute!
N
Rachel wrote:
She's about 6-8 months old and she is tabby on top and white on the
bottom.
Very cute!!
Michelle:
I second your sentiments, exactly.
/mari
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Tad,
I am overwhelmed both by your loss of Callie after so many losses, and by finding out how many cats you have saved and given a good life to. It is truly amazing. I hope that you are
Hi, everyone I am in dilemma and I need your
opinions.
My Hannibal who has had kidney problem might need to get his
tooth pulled out he only had one tooth left, but the root is showing
and its hurting him as he grows after the food touch his tooth. He is
an older feral boy, and has
I have gone through similar decisions with my positives. Ginger
stopped eating and I thought it was from her bad teeth but was not sure, and did
not know whether to put her through tooth-pulling. I did, and they pulled 10
teeth at one time, and she got a really bad URI afterwards. But when
Hideyo,
That's a tough call with Hannibal. How wonderful that his blood work
is all in the normal range now! You're such a good mom! Did I
understand you correctly, that Hannibal only has one tooth left in his
head? How can he eat anything solid with one tooth? It's alarming
that he's lost two
i was thinking something similar re: a less-than-total anesthesia--if
the root is showing already, it may not be that firmly embedded
don't know how they go about that, tho
but it's equally true that hannibal MUST be able to eat, and the
possible systemic consequences of NOT treating an
Hideyo,
You haven't mentioned anything about your upcoming court case with
animal control lately. Isn't it scheduled for Dec 12th? How are your
preparations going? If anyone who wanted to, hasn't sent a testimonial
letter to Hideyo yet, please get on it. Let us know if there is
anything
As a lawyer, I really can not see how a testimonial from someone who has
never seen the premises would help in any way. We all know Hideyo cares a lot
about her cats and does everything possible for their health, from her posts,
but all a court is really going to care about is what the
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I did wonder that as I began writing mine
last night. Still, it can't hurt--or can it?And, it's the 19th isn't
itnot the 12th? Hideyo? Kerry
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No, I don't think it can hurt. But it is really important that Hideyo
get something from her vet (better if he is willing to testify in person or
write an affidavit, which is a sworn statement) and from neighbors and local
folks familiar with her rescue work. If she shows up with only
I'm not sure if it would help either. There may be no credence to our
opinions at all. I am hoping that some consideration of why Hideyo has
so many cats, along with substantiation of the living conditions she
can provide, might have some sway. Yes, letters from people that
attest to Hideyo's
I remember a story that Hideyo told us about a cat caught in a drain,
(or some such thing), where the local media and some local offical was
involved. I suggested that she talk with them and ask for their help,
but I don't know if they have been contacted.
Nina
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Good idea.
Michelle
In a message dated 12/8/2005 3:32:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I
remember a story that Hideyo told us about a cat caught in a drain, (or some
such thing), where the local media and some local offical was involved.
I suggested that she
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This
is my recollectionit was a Sunday night when Hideyo heard the piteous meows
coming from below the street...no one would agree to dig the street up so
Hideyo, being Hideyo, went straight to the top,contacted the mayor's
assistant, an animal lover, and the TV
Nina, this is incredible. Your
experiences very closely parallel ours. The only difference with the
litter is that you received yours much younger, and that there were six kittens
rather than seven. And your outdoor enclosure, complete with bedroom
window...what parallels!
I greatly admire
I'm new to the site, and don't know what
Hideyo's court case is all about. But I perked up my ears when Michelle
mentioned Hawaii. Perhaps I should have guessed, because of Hideyo's
Japanese name. I lived for four years in Honolulu, when I was a graduate
student, and did rescue work there.
Presto,
Bottle babies are a great deal of work, but oh so rewarding. There's
nothing like being mommy to these little tinnies. So trusting, so
loving and adorable. They sort of imprint on you the way chicks or
ducklings do. I'll never forget the first time I realized just how
dependent on my
Presto,
It is possible that your elderly friend, if she is able and
willing to help, could help by visiting Hideyo and talking to her and then
serving as a witness. If she is respected in the community (i.e. not in
trouble herself for having "too many" animals), her testimony could help.
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Hideyo lives in New Mexico, doesn't
she--Albuquerque.
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Presto,
No, Hawaii.
See, this is one reason why a court will not care very much about our
opinions! :)
Michelle
In a message dated 12/8/2005 5:03:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Hideyo lives in New Mexico, doesn't
she--Albuquerque.
Actually Hideyo lives in, I think it's AR or NV. I can't remember
which right now.
N
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Presto,
It is possible that your elderly friend, if she is able and
willing to help, could help by visiting Hideyo and talking to her and
then serving as a witness. If
Oops, neither Ar or Nv! I think you're right, thanks Kerry.
N
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Hideyo lives in New Mexico,
doesn't she--Albuquerque.
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I mailed her just this year in
Albuquerque.
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No, Hawaii.
See,
Really?? I distinctly remember her talking about HI, and my
recommending she contact a friend of mine who is a lawyer there. Am I
getting senile at age 34?!
It would help to know where she is for sure, since we have contacts in
different areas.
So, Hideyo, inquiring minds want to know--
In that case, Albuquerque has a fairly ok humane society which has, I
think, gone no-kill. I wonder if someone from there would help. Though
many humane societies have weird ideas about collectors and can not distinguish
between large-scale rescuers and collectors.
In a message dated
Yeah.. I would rather not deal with them..
sometimes, they stab you on your back, and I am sort of paranoid whom I should
trust and shouldnt.. thats why I really dont work with a
rescue group.. they can be very political and I dont like politics..
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Michelle, thank you for your input
actually I am going to have a couple of different people who are going to
testify on my behalf about the condition of the premise and condition of the
cats - one (in person) and another one (in letter) One person is from
Animal protection service of NM
I live in Albuquerque,
NM I think one time, you have given me
a husband and wifes names who are animal advocates in Hawaii (lawyer and vet??) I did try
to contact them.. were you sending their name to me because you though I lived
in Hawaii??
I am sorry, if that was the case.. I have
That makes complete sense, Michelle.. I
also have a letter who was written my ex-vet (she was my vet for the pat 10
years and she is now a senior staff at animal service division I am
hoping that this will help..In the letter, she described me as the excellent
care taker and because of
Its sort of difficult to give him
anything to his teeth,, he will fight so hard the vet said that his gum
were so inflamed around the tooth, too.
Apparently, they can eat well with no
teeth.. my baby Garfunkle had almost no teeth (even when I first met him),, but
he ate well.. oh gosh..
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Yeah.. I have a letter from her.. also a
friend of mine who was an assistant mayor recently became a deputy director of environmental
health service where animal services division sits under.. so we are making
some calls to see if this can be taken care of internally.. but I
Hi, Presto,,, the court case is having
getting multiple animal permit from the animal control division in my city
they rejected to give me the permit due to the current ordinance, so I requested
a hearing to present my case so that I could keep my animals. I rescue
cats and lots of cats I
Well.. I dont know exactly how old he is
somewhere between 10 and 20 I have met him 7 years ago,, abut he was a
matured boy then (not young one)
I would ask about local pain killers
---but since he is sort of a feral boy and hates to be message with his face or
mouth.. it might be
as a lawyer, i can tell you that is the best news yet.
mivhelle
In a message dated 12/8/2005 5:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I am also a friend of
the city attorney who is going to be against me on 12/19 – he is going to have
a off record conversation
Hideyo, if this does go forward and for some reason you do lose and the
order is bad, file an appeal and call the Animal Legal Defense Fund for referral
to an attorney to represent you on appeal. I personally would call them
now to see if someone is in your area who can help on the 19th if
I have no idea at all why I thought you lived in HI. I must be losing
your mind. Yes, I gave you their names because I thought you were in HI.
If you called them, they probably could not figure out why I had given their
number to someone in NM! Wow
No, no animal-related contacts in
Thanks, Michelle
I remember reading a case in PA, for a
similar situation as I am in she lost her case on the city level, and
appealed and she lost on the state level and she lost again, and she appealed
to federal level and she finally won! The federal court ruled against the
opponent
Nina, you're fantastic. I love your
stories. The kittens around your feet, looking up at you
expectantly. Oh my. That reminds me so much of our leukemic
litter. Gawd, how I miss them. And yes, I understand exactly why you
wanted to take in another litter. When I lost our sixth, I called the
Do you have the citation for that case? I would love to read the
decision. It's great you found that case. You should actually bring
a copy with you to submit to the court. Not having read the decision, I do not
know if it is technically relevant to your case (your boyfriend should be able
Michelle, with regret, it's not possible.
Andrea Yee is now in her early eighties, is an invalid, and it is clear that her
mind is going. I can barely understand her on the telephone. She
can't even leave her highrise apartment to feed the local colony. It's a
source of sadness to her and
i would think it would help to bring out more forcefully what has been
mentioned in passing: that hideyo, you are taking in animals that no
one else wants, that you are caring for creatures that may be ill or
undesirable (to others) but deserve to live, and that you are NOT the
people who are
The problem is that the city probably does not really care whether these
cats live or die, and certain city actors are probably of the opinion that cats
with long-term illnesses, like FeLV should not be allowed to live anyway and
only nuisance-causing crazy cat ladies keep them alive.
http://www.naiaonline.org/body/articles/archives/limitlawpennsylvania.htm
here you go.. please read and if it will
help my case, michelle.
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To:
I will find the link and will forward it
to you.. Hey, Michelle, I had posted a message at ALDF about my case, and
someone replied to my post as follows (just an extract) do you know how I can
get more information how unconstitutional this is?
Heres the message..
Please note that pet
What Michelle said is very true,
unfortunately.. when I mentioned about my FeLV kitties to one of the animal
control officer, the jerk who was on the other side of the phone told me that I
should have them killed anyway..
What the city attorney, Greg Wheeler said
to us is that.. all
Hi Jenn,
On another topic, I read your memorial to
Moogie this morning, and wept. Then I gave a printed copy to my husband,
and after he'd read it in the other room, he camein to seeme with
tearsstreaming down his cheeks. You captured everything very
accurately. I was especially,
Dear Jenn,
I wish it could have come out so easily..
thats why I took him to the vet with the hope that its lose enough
that she could just pull it.. and it was not.. its K9 teeth and it was
not lose..
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On Behalf Of Presto
You're doing a great job of advocating for yourself.
Michelle
In a message dated 12/8/2005 6:15:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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What the city
attorney, Greg Wheeler said to us is that.. all they care about is whehter my
neighbors are complaining about me having
Call the ALDF office and talk to a live person. Tell whoever answers
that I told you to call (use my name, Michelle Lerner) and mention that I
started the student ALDF chapter at Harvard Law School. Tell them that I
am in MA and can not help you and that I told you to call and see if a)
Hideyo,
Thank you. I read it. The link is not to the decision
itself, but to a summary of the decision. And it was not a federal court, but a
state court that struck down the ordinance.
Does your town have a limit on the number of animals? Or
was this justa case-by-case decision denying
I think it would be a good idea to set up a
contingency plan, in case the courtdecision goes against
Hideyo.
She may not be given the time to file an
appeal. She may not have the money to file an appeal. The cats may
be taken away from her within a matter of days after a negative
I think it is good to always have a back-up plan. But the court has
to allow time to file an appeal. The court does not have to agree,
however, to stay a bad decision while an appeal is pending, i.e. to leave the
cats alone while the appeal pends. However, a refusal to stay the decision
Michelle, are you in MA? So am I. A
very educated, liberal state, comparatively speaking. We have it lucky
compared to some who live in less tolerant states.
Presto
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I understand and agree. I do, though, also
agree that we should figure out an alternate-placement plan now. I don't
know the conditions of her cats, so cannot comment on how bad the conditions of
some of them are, and their transportability. Perhaps those in the worst
conditions could stay
Thanks Presto. Moogie's cremains sit on a shelf in the kitchen surrounded
by pictures of her. It's strange, I can be in the room with her remains and her
"real" memorial and not cry, but when I go to the webpage memorial, I lose it
every time. I do think I captured something on that page
I think that many are feral and semi-feral and at least one is FeLV+ and
several are elderly. When I said I would assist with legal fees, I mean
about $100. We are actually doing pretty badly financially since moving,
due to me only having part-time work right now and a bunch of vet bills
Unfortunately, the woman I am trying to help has very little
money. She lives in a trailer and has no room where she can isolate the cat. She
would like to somehow enclose her front porch and keep the kitty there, but as
she is only renting the property, the landlord may object.
I have a
while i know that there can be reactions to the FeLV vaccine itself,
when there are negative cats involved, i'm still one who tends toward
vaccinating the negatives to allow the positive a live free to roam. i
know a great deal of people who have had positives mixed with
VACCINATED negatives for
you're probably right, michelle--i'm just looking at it from the
position of enforcement of ALL animal laws, not just directing
enforcement against responsible caretakers.
--
MaryChristine
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Thank you Marissa and Nina for taking a moment to look at pics of the beautiful baby girl that stole mine and her daddys hearts at first sight. I miss her so much.The sweet kisses on the nose first thing in the morning and before bed.Or just anytime she wanted a treat. :) We did spoil her till the
Release to the colony is acceptable to me in this case. And here's why MC. As
another
cat from this colony has already tested positive and been put down, it means the
entire colony has already been exposed to FELV, so releasing this one cat back
to it
wont make any difference at all as far as
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