RE: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 11

[JENI RECA]

Our cat that was a feral found a nice hiding place inside our wall.  She was 
very trap savvy you could say and we couldnt trap her...until I put a piece of 
cardboard on the bottom of the trap to cover the wire cage.  She went in and 
got trapped and we got her out of the wall.  It might help, cause they might 
not like the feel of the wire bottom on the cage under thier feet.  good luck
jeni

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>1. Re: Advice on trapping... (Kelley Saveika)
>2. Re: Advice on trapping... (Kelley Saveika)
>3. Skyy Please add to the CLS (Sherry DeHaan)
>4. Re: Skyy Please add to the CLS (Sally Davis)
>5. Re: Advice on trapping... (laurieskatz)
>6. Re: Advice on trapping... (laurieskatz)
>7. Re: Advice on trapping...night v day trapping (laurieskatz)
>8. Re: Skyy Please add to the CLS (Kelley Saveika)
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> Everyone I have ever seen has left them in the trap overnight - in fact you
> are required to bring them to the low cost spay neuter clinic in traps, so I
> have no advice on this.  They do get "trap savvy" very easily and you can't
> keep re-trapping them, often you only get one shot at it.
> 
> On Jan 8, 2008 6:43 PM, Chris  wrote:
> 
>>  Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If
>> for example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I
>> could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night
>> with no food, water or litter box?.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Christiane Biagi*
>>
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>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM
>>
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Advice on trapping...
>>
>>
>>
>> This is some good trapping advice.
>>
>> *http://tinyurl.com/32zpor*
>>
>> Also try Alley Cat Allies.
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here
>> can't resist it.
>>
>> Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping
>> advice from BF:
>>
>>
>> http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475&g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the
>> trap.  The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.
>>
>>  - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Chris 
>>
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: Advice on trapping...
>>
>>
>>
>> Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is that shelter won't
>> take them unless I have FELV test done?I didn't argue thought it makes my
>> blood boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may
>> require overnight?.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Christiane Biagi*
>>
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>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pat Kachur
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Advice on trapping...
>>
>>
>>
>> I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna
>> with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take
>> him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other
>> container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby
>> that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck..you're doing a w

Re: Skyy Please add to the CLS

[Sherry DeHaan]

Thank you Kelley,what keeps me going is that there are so many that need our 
love and I am honored to be able to love them when no one else wanted to.It is 
heartbreaking but I somehow find the strength to keep going.I have a few 
FAVORITES that when it is their time to go it is just going to kill me.There is 
a black beautiful boy named Marley that Ijust love with ALL my heart,of course 
I love them ALL but some just take up a special place in my heart.Once 
agan,Thank you.
  Sherry

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sherry,

I am so sorry...I don't know how you keep on going.  

  On Jan 8, 2008 7:54 PM, Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Sherry
   
  I am so sorry..it is never easy,
   
  Hugs,
   
  Sally 



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We lost sweet Skyy sunday to felv.She was a beautiful long haired gray baby 
girl,she will be missed very much at Sids.
  Sherry

  
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PARTIAL SUCCESS! Advice on trapping...night v day trapping

[Chris]

Last night mom and kitty were waiting and followed my dad to our door to get
food.  I know they were hungry!  I managed to trap the little Munchkin who
turns out is a girl.  I got her to an e-vet at 10 PM and they tested her and
put her in the big dog kennel for me.  She's now sitting there sort of
looking at all of us.  Of course she's lying in the litter box.  I think she
ate a little of the food but basically she's just scared.  I put her up high
as she knows my father and he can't crawl around on the floor to talk to
her.  I should be bringing her to shelter later today.

 

I reset the trap for mom-oh how I hope she isn't too spooked to go in there.
I put in some heated dark tuna and smeared a little on the newspaper I lined
the bottom of the trap with.  I know she's hungry.  She's been known to
catch birds but she's not really good at it.  So now I wait.  

 

Munchkin the little one, tested neg for FELV/FIV so I'm hoping that's a good
sign for mom.  I hate it so that shelter required this-its just sooo
unnecessary!  

 

Many thanks for all the helpful advice.  It really gave me some courage to
keep trying. I just felt so over my head on this.I will keep you posted.

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:14 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...night v day trapping

 

Trap with water and canned food in the trap. They will be fine overnight.
Cover with a towel and place the trap in a quiet, dark, safe INSIDE place
until you can get to vet. Most important thing is to keep them safe until
they can get to vet. Trying to transfer is not safe. I always took the
trapped cat directly to the vet in the trap (covered and placed in plastic
in my vehicle).

I always trapped in the AM so I could get them right to the vet. That's
better, if you can do that, depending on your schedule and theirs. I set 2
traps at once and that sped things up.

Good luck,

L

- Original Message -

From: Chris  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:43 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...

 

Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If for
example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I
could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night
with no food, water or litter box..

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

This is some good trapping advice.

http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

Also try Alley Cat Allies.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here
can't resist it. 

Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping
advice from BF:

http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475
 &g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d

 

On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the trap.
The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... 

 

Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is that shelter won't
take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue thought it makes my
blood boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may
require overnight..   

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with
oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take
him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other
container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby
that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.

 

Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just
don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris 

RE: Advice on trapping...

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

I've always heard that you shouldn't leave a trapped cat for more than a
couple hours. I usually withdrew all food by 6pm and then got up around
3 or 4am to set the traps. (I had to arrive at the spay clinic no later
than 6.30am) Good point Kelley makes about the clinics---I had a
horrible experience where I took a feral cat to a clinic in a carrier
and the manager turned me away---luckily the wonderful clinic vet
overheard her yelling at me (yup!, yelling!) and stepped in and took
care of the cat. 
  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


Everyone I have ever seen has left them in the trap overnight - in fact
you are required to bring them to the low cost spay neuter clinic in
traps, so I have no advice on this.  They do get "trap savvy" very
easily and you can't keep re-trapping them, often you only get one shot
at it. 


On Jan 8, 2008 6:43 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog
kennel?  If for example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her
overnight before I could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat
in the trap all night with no food, water or litter box

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their
Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...



 

This is some good trapping advice.

http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

Also try Alley Cat Allies.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats
around here can't resist it.  

Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good
trapping advice from BF:


http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475&g=3042316787ce4a6
e8eb13f7e1c31758d

 

On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test
in the trap.  The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... 

 

Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is
that shelter won't take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue
thought it makes my blood boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the
test and that may require overnight   

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with
their Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like
dark, canned tuna with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch
one or the other, take him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to
transfer to any other container.  Try to make sure there is no other
food outside anywhere nearby that they could choose instead of what is
in your trap.

 

Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the
kitties--they just don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM

Subject: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a
dilemma that I thought some more experienced folks might help me with.
My father's been feeding a little cat and her kittens since right after
we spotted them in October.  Mom is a young tortie who we believe
someone dumped in their complex after she got pregnant.  She had 3
kittens but sadly 2 di

RE: Advice on trapping...

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Dear Chris
 
Bless you for helping these little sweethearts.
 
The wonderful former listmember Hideyo told me this trick years ago when
I needed to transfer a trapped cat to a cat carrier. It worked like a
charm, and hopefully it will work for a kennel too. It's based on the
fact that, in her vast experience, cats in a light place will always be
drawn to a dark place! 
 
Basically, here's what you do: 
First, trap cat.  Then, don't cover the trap with blanket or
anything--leave it uncovered.  Position the trap so that its door (see
note below) is positioned head-on against the open entrance of the
kennel. Cover the entire kennel and the "join" where the kennel and trap
meet with a dark blanket or towel. Raise trap door. Cat should walk from
the light, airy trap into the dark kennel. Mine did exactly that, and
did it immediately. I was amazed!
 
Note: It's a while since I've used a trap but as I recall the back of a
trap has a door that you can raise directly vertically (as opposed to at
an angle). This vertical door is of course the end that you wd place
against the kennel so that there's no space the cat can escape
through--just a direct walkway into the kennel!
 
Just in case the cat did escape, and I had to do the chase-and-catch
routine, I set everything up in the bathroom. As the floor space was too
small to place the trap and carrier end to end, I put a large piece of
board over my bathtub and placed the trap and carrier end to end on
that. At this height it was also easier to see what was going on.
 
Good luck! Let us know how it goes when you get a moment.
 
Kerry M.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...



Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If
for example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight
before I could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap
all night with no food, water or litter box

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

This is some good trapping advice.

http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

Also try Alley Cat Allies.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here
can't resist it.  

Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good
trapping advice from BF:

http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475&g=3042316787ce4a6
e8eb13f7e1c31758d

 

On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the
trap.  The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... 

 

Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is that
shelter won't take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue
thought it makes my blood boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the
test and that may require overnight   

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their
Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark,
canned tuna with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or
the other, take him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to
transfer to any other container.  Try to make sure there is no other
food outside anywhere nearby that they could choose instead of what is
in your trap.

 

Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the
kitties--they just don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM

Subject: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma
that I thought some more experienced folks might help me wi

Re: PARTIAL SUCCESS! getting mama

[laurieskatz]

Great news! If you can't get mama, it was suggested to us that we put a kitten 
in carrier next to trap or tape kitten meowing and place tape recorder in or 
near trap. We did not try this. It took me 4 days to get the last of a litter 
of kittens after I trapped his mama nd 2 littermates...excrutiating but worth 
the effort.
L 

Re: Advice on trapping...

[Marylyn]

I'm a big fan of Feliway spray and Cat Nap.  It helps calm the cat and the 
Feliway apparently smells like cat.  The Feliway has helped me win over several 
cats.  

Keep an eye on the trap so the little ones don't stay captured and unattended.  

Right now I am trying to trap some at my Mom's.  I am leaving the trap so it 
will not spring so they get used to it.  I know.  It doesn't seem fair to lull 
them into a sense of security but they really do need to be spayed. 






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat Kachur 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


  I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with 
oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take him/her 
to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other container.  Try 
to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby that they could 
choose instead of what is in your trap.

  Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just 
don't know it yet!!   +:)
- Original Message - 
From: Chris 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: Advice on trapping...


I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought some 
more experienced folks might help me with.  My father's been feeding a little 
cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October.  Mom is a 
young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after she got 
pregnant.  She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it.  So now there is her 
and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday.  

 

I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having real 
trouble catching them.  Last night I really messed up.  I had the kitten but 
managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel that 
we have set up for feeding station.  He ran off, it was pouring and though I 
did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked.  Then I rented a trap 
but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out.  I corrected my mistake 
and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He was a wee bit surprised 
and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap!  LOL

 

Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish.  I was told to 
cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back.  I also put a sheet of 
newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in.  I saw 
Mom today but she didn't go to eat.  I'm hoping they come back.

 

Does anyone have advice?  Also, I have one trap and a big dog kennel so if 
I trap one, I'm not sure if I should try to get it into the dog kennel-not sure 
how to do this.  Any and all advice would be most appreciated! 

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

RE: Skyy Please add to the CLS

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

Sherry, I'm sorry you lost Skyy.  Peaceful Bridge vibes to her, and hugs
to all of you.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Skyy Please add to the CLS


We lost sweet Skyy sunday to felv.She was a beautiful long haired gray
baby girl,she will be missed very much at Sids.
Sherry



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RE: Skyy Please add to the CLS

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

I'm so sorry, Sherry. Skyy sounds such a darling little soul. I'm glad
she knew you.
love and hugs, Kerry

  _  

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Skyy Please add to the CLS


We lost sweet Skyy sunday to felv.She was a beautiful long haired gray
baby girl,she will be missed very much at Sids.
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Re: Advice on trapping...

[laurieskatz]

I used to leave the trap out for at least a week before setting it. I would 
prop the door open and put food in the trap. It's always worked for me.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


  I'm a big fan of Feliway spray and Cat Nap.  It helps calm the cat and the 
Feliway apparently smells like cat.  The Feliway has helped me win over several 
cats.  

  Keep an eye on the trap so the little ones don't stay captured and 
unattended.  

  Right now I am trying to trap some at my Mom's.  I am leaving the trap so it 
will not spring so they get used to it.  I know.  It doesn't seem fair to lull 
them into a sense of security but they really do need to be spayed. 






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Pat Kachur 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna 
with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take 
him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other 
container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby 
that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.

Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just 
don't know it yet!!   +:)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM
  Subject: Advice on trapping...


  I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought some 
more experienced folks might help me with.  My father's been feeding a little 
cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October.  Mom is a 
young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after she got 
pregnant.  She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it.  So now there is her 
and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday.  

   

  I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having 
real trouble catching them.  Last night I really messed up.  I had the kitten 
but managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel 
that we have set up for feeding station.  He ran off, it was pouring and though 
I did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked.  Then I rented a trap 
but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out.  I corrected my mistake 
and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He was a wee bit surprised 
and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap!  LOL

   

  Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish.  I was told to 
cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back.  I also put a sheet of 
newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in.  I saw 
Mom today but she didn't go to eat.  I'm hoping they come back.

   

  Does anyone have advice?  Also, I have one trap and a big dog kennel so 
if I trap one, I'm not sure if I should try to get it into the dog kennel-not 
sure how to do this.  Any and all advice would be most appreciated! 

   

  Christiane Biagi

  914-632-4672

  Cell:  914-720-6888

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   

   

Re: Skyy Please add to the CLS

[dede hicken]

So sorry Sherry.  I know how much you put into your
kitties with love and medicine.  May you both be
blessed.

Dede



--- Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We lost sweet Skyy sunday to felv.She was a
> beautiful long haired gray baby girl,she will be
> missed very much at Sids.
>   Sherry
> 
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Re: PARTIAL SUCCESS! Advice on trapping...night v day trapping

[Pat Kachur]

Great news!!  Congratulations.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:18 AM
  Subject: PARTIAL SUCCESS! Advice on trapping...night v day trapping


  Last night mom and kitty were waiting and followed my dad to our door to get 
food.  I know they were hungry!  I managed to trap the little Munchkin who 
turns out is a girl.  I got her to an e-vet at 10 PM and they tested her and 
put her in the big dog kennel for me.  She's now sitting there sort of looking 
at all of us.  Of course she's lying in the litter box.  I think she ate a 
little of the food but basically she's just scared.  I put her up high as she 
knows my father and he can't crawl around on the floor to talk to her.  I 
should be bringing her to shelter later today.

   

  I reset the trap for mom-oh how I hope she isn't too spooked to go in there.  
I put in some heated dark tuna and smeared a little on the newspaper I lined 
the bottom of the trap with.  I know she's hungry.  She's been known to catch 
birds but she's not really good at it.  So now I wait.  

   

  Munchkin the little one, tested neg for FELV/FIV so I'm hoping that's a good 
sign for mom.  I hate it so that shelter required this-its just sooo 
unnecessary!  

   

  Many thanks for all the helpful advice.  It really gave me some courage to 
keep trying. I just felt so over my head on this.I will keep you posted.

   

  Christiane Biagi

  914-632-4672

  Cell:  914-720-6888

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:14 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...night v day trapping

   

  Trap with water and canned food in the trap. They will be fine overnight. 
Cover with a towel and place the trap in a quiet, dark, safe INSIDE place until 
you can get to vet. Most important thing is to keep them safe until they can 
get to vet. Trying to transfer is not safe. I always took the trapped cat 
directly to the vet in the trap (covered and placed in plastic in my vehicle).

  I always trapped in the AM so I could get them right to the vet. That's 
better, if you can do that, depending on your schedule and theirs. I set 2 
traps at once and that sped things up.

  Good luck,

  L

- Original Message -

From: Chris

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:43 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...

 

Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If for 
example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I could 
go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night with no 
food, water or litter box..

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley 
Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

This is some good trapping advice.

http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

Also try Alley Cat Allies.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here 
can't resist it. 

Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping 
advice from BF:


http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475&g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d

 

On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the 
trap.  The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Chris 

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM

  Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... 

   

  Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is that shelter won't 
take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue thought it makes my blood 
boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may require 
overnight..   

   

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  914-632-4672

  Cell:  914-720-6888

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

   

  I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna 
with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch

RE: Advice on trapping...

[Chris]

I am hoping against hope that mom cat will go in the trap tonight..  its my
last night here and I know my parents can't handle trapping!  How do you set
the trap so that it doesn't spring-just in case I can get somebody to help
in a few days..

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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www.findkpets.org

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I used to leave the trap out for at least a week before setting it. I would
prop the door open and put food in the trap. It's always worked for me.

- Original Message - 

From: Marylyn   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:12 PM

Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm a big fan of Feliway spray and Cat Nap.  It helps calm the cat and the
Feliway apparently smells like cat.  The Feliway has helped me win over
several cats.  

 

Keep an eye on the trap so the little ones don't stay captured and
unattended.  

 

Right now I am trying to trap some at my Mom's.  I am leaving the trap so it
will not spring so they get used to it.  I know.  It doesn't seem fair to
lull them into a sense of security but they really do need to be spayed.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message - 

From: Pat Kachur   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with
oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take
him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other
container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby
that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.

 

Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just
don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM

Subject: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought some
more experienced folks might help me with.  My father's been feeding a
little cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October.
Mom is a young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after
she got pregnant.  She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it.  So now
there is her and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday.


 

I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having real
trouble catching them.  Last night I really messed up.  I had the kitten but
managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel
that we have set up for feeding station.  He ran off, it was pouring and
though I did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked.  Then I
rented a trap but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out.  I
corrected my mistake and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He
was a wee bit surprised and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap!  LOL

 

Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish.  I was told to
cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back.  I also put a sheet
of newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in.
I saw Mom today but she didn't go to eat.  I'm hoping they come back.

 

Does anyone have advice?  Also, I have one trap and a big dog kennel so if I
trap one, I'm not sure if I should try to get it into the dog kennel-not
sure how to do this.  Any and all advice would be most appreciated! 

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

Re: Advice on trapping...

[laurieskatz]

I put a  yardstick under the door and through the openings on each 
side of the door. The yardstick or other stick runs through the top or second 
down openings on either side of the door, when it is open. The door on mine 
swings up.
Good luck! I pray it will work tonight
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:11 PM
  Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...


  I am hoping against hope that mom cat will go in the trap tonight..  its my 
last night here and I know my parents can't handle trapping!  How do you set 
the trap so that it doesn't spring-just in case I can get somebody to help in a 
few days..

   

  Christiane Biagi

  914-632-4672

  Cell:  914-720-6888

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   

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  www.findkpets.org

   

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:30 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

   

  I used to leave the trap out for at least a week before setting it. I would 
prop the door open and put food in the trap. It's always worked for me.

- Original Message - 

From: Marylyn 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:12 PM

Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm a big fan of Feliway spray and Cat Nap.  It helps calm the cat and the 
Feliway apparently smells like cat.  The Feliway has helped me win over several 
cats.  

 

Keep an eye on the trap so the little ones don't stay captured and 
unattended.  

 

Right now I am trying to trap some at my Mom's.  I am leaving the trap so 
it will not spring so they get used to it.  I know.  It doesn't seem fair to 
lull them into a sense of security but they really do need to be spayed. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis

  - Original Message - 

  From: Pat Kachur 

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:46 PM

  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

   

  I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna 
with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take 
him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other 
container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby 
that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.

   

  Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just 
don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM

Subject: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought 
some more experienced folks might help me with.  My father's been feeding a 
little cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October.  Mom 
is a young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after she got 
pregnant.  She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it.  So now there is her 
and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday.  

 

I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having 
real trouble catching them.  Last night I really messed up.  I had the kitten 
but managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel 
that we have set up for feeding station.  He ran off, it was pouring and though 
I did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked.  Then I rented a trap 
but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out.  I corrected my mistake 
and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He was a wee bit surprised 
and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap!  LOL

 

Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish.  I was told 
to cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back.  I also put a sheet 
of newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in.  I 
saw Mom today but she didn't go to eat.  I'm hoping they come back.

 

Does anyone have advice?  Also, I have one trap and a big dog kennel so 
if I trap one, I'm not sure if I should try to get it into the dog kennel-not 
sure how to do this.  Any and all advice would be most appreciated! 

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Re: Skyy Please add to the CLS

[Marylyn]

I am so sorry she had to leave.  Blessings to you for caring about her.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rosenfeldt, Diane 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 2:56 PM
  Subject: RE: Skyy Please add to the CLS


  Sherry, I'm sorry you lost Skyy.  Peaceful Bridge vibes to her, and hugs to 
all of you.

  Diane R.



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  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 PM
  To: Felvtalk
  Subject: Skyy Please add to the CLS


  We lost sweet Skyy sunday to felv.She was a beautiful long haired gray baby 
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RE: Advice on trapping...

[Chris]

Got it-I know I can do that if I have to. but boy, I hope I don't!

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I put a  yardstick under the door and through the openings on each
side of the door. The yardstick or other stick runs through the top or
second down openings on either side of the door, when it is open. The door
on mine swings up.

Good luck! I pray it will work tonight

L

- Original Message -

From: Chris  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:11 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...

 

I am hoping against hope that mom cat will go in the trap tonight..  its my
last night here and I know my parents can't handle trapping!  How do you set
the trap so that it doesn't spring-just in case I can get somebody to help
in a few days..

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I used to leave the trap out for at least a week before setting it. I would
prop the door open and put food in the trap. It's always worked for me.

- Original Message - 

From: Marylyn   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:12 PM

Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm a big fan of Feliway spray and Cat Nap.  It helps calm the cat and the
Feliway apparently smells like cat.  The Feliway has helped me win over
several cats.  

 

Keep an eye on the trap so the little ones don't stay captured and
unattended.  

 

Right now I am trying to trap some at my Mom's.  I am leaving the trap so it
will not spring so they get used to it.  I know.  It doesn't seem fair to
lull them into a sense of security but they really do need to be spayed.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message - 

From: Pat Kachur   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with
oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take
him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other
container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby
that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.

 

Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just
don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM

Subject: Advice on trapping...

 

I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought some
more experienced folks might help me with.  My father's been feeding a
little cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October.
Mom is a young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after
she got pregnant.  She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it.  So now
there is her and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday.


 

I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having real
trouble catching them.  Last night I really messed up.  I had the kitten but
managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel
that we have set up for feeding station.  He ran off, it was pouring and
though I did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked.  Then I
rented a trap but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out.  I
corrected my mistake and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He
was a wee bit surprised and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap!  LOL

 

Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish.  I was told to
cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back.  I also put a sheet
of newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in.
I saw Mom today but she didn't go to eat.  I'm hoping they come back.

 

Does anyone have advice?  Also

Re: Advice on trapping...

[Marylyn]

It is one thing to trap a cat, transport it in the trap to a safe, sheltered 
place (in my case a closed garage with a towel, blanket etc over the cage to 
help calm the cat) and leaving a trapped cage in the open where it can be 
frightened if not harmed by other critters or by mean spirited people.  I would 
never try to get a feral cat to a vet without some sort of restraint--for my 
protection and the cat's.  

 





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...


  I've always heard that you shouldn't leave a trapped cat for more than a 
couple hours. I usually withdrew all food by 6pm and then got up around 3 or 
4am to set the traps. (I had to arrive at the spay clinic no later than 6.30am) 
Good point Kelley makes about the clinics---I had a horrible experience where I 
took a feral cat to a clinic in a carrier and the manager turned me 
away---luckily the wonderful clinic vet overheard her yelling at me (yup!, 
yelling!) and stepped in and took care of the cat. 
--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:49 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


  Everyone I have ever seen has left them in the trap overnight - in fact you 
are required to bring them to the low cost spay neuter clinic in traps, so I 
have no advice on this.  They do get "trap savvy" very easily and you can't 
keep re-trapping them, often you only get one shot at it. 


  On Jan 8, 2008 6:43 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If for 
example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I could 
go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night with no 
food, water or litter box..



Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley 
Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...



This is some good trapping advice.

http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

Also try Alley Cat Allies.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here 
can't resist it.  

Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping 
advice from BF:


http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475&g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d



On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the 
trap.  The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Chris 

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM

  Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... 



  Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is that shelter won't 
take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue thought it makes my blood 
boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may require 
overnight..   



  Christiane Biagi

  914-632-4672

  Cell:  914-720-6888

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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  www.findkpets.org



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...



  I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna 
with oil or salmon) in the trap.  Also, if you catch one or the other, take 
him/her to the shelter in the trap.  Don't try to transfer to any other 
container.  Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby 
that they could choose instead of what is in your trap.



  Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just 
don't know it yet!!   +:)

- Original Message - 

From: Chris 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent:

Re: Advice on trapping...

[laurieskatz]

I always trap during the day and I always supervise the trap while it is set. I 
am fortunate to be able to do this. I don't leave set traps unattended for the 
reasons mentioned by Marlyn. When we were under the gun to get a family trapped 
before a building was demolished, we actually took shifts watching the set 
traps

ps my experience with ferals is they have been terrified and squeezed agst the 
back of the trap. The only feisty critters I've encountered are raccoons I've 
trapped (and released). This is another reason I stopped setting traps at night!

GOOD LUCK!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


  It is one thing to trap a cat, transport it in the trap to a safe, sheltered 
place (in my case a closed garage with a towel, blanket etc over the cage to 
help calm the cat) and leaving a trapped cage in the open where it can be 
frightened if not harmed by other critters or by mean spirited people.  I would 
never try to get a feral cat to a vet without some sort of restraint--for my 
protection and the cat's.  







   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...


I've always heard that you shouldn't leave a trapped cat for more than a 
couple hours. I usually withdrew all food by 6pm and then got up around 3 or 
4am to set the traps. (I had to arrive at the spay clinic no later than 6.30am) 
Good point Kelley makes about the clinics---I had a horrible experience where I 
took a feral cat to a clinic in a carrier and the manager turned me 
away---luckily the wonderful clinic vet overheard her yelling at me (yup!, 
yelling!) and stepped in and took care of the cat. 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley 
Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...


Everyone I have ever seen has left them in the trap overnight - in fact you 
are required to bring them to the low cost spay neuter clinic in traps, so I 
have no advice on this.  They do get "trap savvy" very easily and you can't 
keep re-trapping them, often you only get one shot at it. 


On Jan 8, 2008 6:43 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If 
for example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I 
could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night with 
no food, water or litter box..



  Christiane Biagi

  914-632-4672

  Cell:  914-720-6888

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

  www.findkpets.org



  Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley 
Saveika
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM 


  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...



  This is some good trapping advice.

  http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

  Also try Alley Cat Allies.

  On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here 
can't resist it.  

  Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping 
advice from BF:

  
http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475&g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d



  On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

  Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the 
trap.  The vet people can deal with that better than you or I.

- Original Message - 

From: Chris 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... 



Just got some dark tuna and will try that.  Problem is that shelter 
won't take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue thought it makes my 
blood boil.  Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may require 
overnight..   



Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org



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RE: Advice on trapping...

[Chris]

Well I figured out a system if I do trap her.  I can take her to all night
vet for testing and they'll put her into a big dog kennel like they did the
kitten last night.  Its costly but its worth my peace of mind at this point.
She's out there right now and I know she's hungry but she's spooked by the
trap.  I had the trap set from early this AM but she's used to being fed by
my father this time of night and sure enough, she was by the apt when we
came back from dinner!  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

I always trap during the day and I always supervise the trap while it is
set. I am fortunate to be able to do this. I don't leave set traps
unattended for the reasons mentioned by Marlyn. When we were under the gun
to get a family trapped before a building was demolished, we actually took
shifts watching the set traps

 

ps my experience with ferals is they have been terrified and squeezed agst
the back of the trap. The only feisty critters I've encountered are raccoons
I've trapped (and released). This is another reason I stopped setting traps
at night!

 

GOOD LUCK!!

- Original Message -

From: Marylyn  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:43 PM

Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

It is one thing to trap a cat, transport it in the trap to a safe, sheltered
place (in my case a closed garage with a towel, blanket etc over the cage to
help calm the cat) and leaving a trapped cage in the open where it can be
frightened if not harmed by other critters or by mean spirited people.  I
would never try to get a feral cat to a vet without some sort of
restraint--for my protection and the cat's.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -

From: MacKenzie, Kerry N.  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:15 AM

Subject: RE: Advice on trapping...

 

I've always heard that you shouldn't leave a trapped cat for more than a
couple hours. I usually withdrew all food by 6pm and then got up around 3 or
4am to set the traps. (I had to arrive at the spay clinic no later than
6.30am) Good point Kelley makes about the clinics---I had a horrible
experience where I took a feral cat to a clinic in a carrier and the manager
turned me away---luckily the wonderful clinic vet overheard her yelling at
me (yup!, yelling!) and stepped in and took care of the cat. 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

Everyone I have ever seen has left them in the trap overnight - in fact you
are required to bring them to the low cost spay neuter clinic in traps, so I
have no advice on this.  They do get "trap savvy" very easily and you can't
keep re-trapping them, often you only get one shot at it.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:43 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel?  If for
example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I
could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night
with no food, water or litter box..

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)

www.findkpets.org

 

Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...

 

This is some good trapping advice.

http://tinyurl.com/32zpor

Also try Alley Cat Allies.

On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would leave the kitty in the trap.  Try mackerel..the cats around here
can't resist it. 

Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping
advice from BF:

http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475
 &g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d

 

On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur < [EMAIL PROTECTED]