[Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
We use prednisolone. Our cats hematocrit was 9%. we did a blood transfusion. We also used LTCI injections and Interferon. He now tests negative, although we still battle with anemia. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:24 AM, "A D" wrote: > Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years > old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls > running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ > > Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day > (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of > their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day > that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the > following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box > (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a > day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs > in the first place L). > > > > I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her > to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens > build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that > her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s > a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get > all she was supposed to. > > > > When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. > She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the > dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back > out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she > has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. > > > > Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I > know that has something to do with her liver not working right. > > > > Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or > something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L > > > > Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we > know if she has pain? > > > > The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for > the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any > better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test > negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And > I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing > symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so > bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. > > > > At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured > if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a > seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be > time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance > to survive…ya know? > > > > Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really > very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who > has to deal with it. > > > > ~Anndrea > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over
Claudia I am SO sorry about your loss of your precious Cheshire. My heart hurts for you.I have seen so MANY different ways this awful disease can take these sweet babies. Bless you for loving her.Hugs to you. Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Claudia Veiga wrote: From: Claudia Veiga Subject: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 5:41 PM My sweet, beautiful little Cheshire crossed the rainbow bridge last Wednesday night. She had only been sick for less than 10 days. She was on antibiotics and some pred for 10 days for gum problems. I was going to schedule her for a cleaning in a few weeks, but her health seemed to decline a few days after that. She started hiding under the bed, and not eating, when seh came out, I saw a growth on her throat area, adn took her to the vet. They weren't sure if it was a abcess or worse. I took her back seveveral times over the course of 6 days, she had to be given fluids through IV, and I syringe fed her. I've never been through anything like this before. I was praying for her. On wednesday they told me they couldn't do surgery to remove the cyst 'cause she was so anemic and her blood count was so low, it looked like she had leukemia. The only thing to do was bring her home or try to get her more help at the vet hospial where they have cancer specialists for a transfusion. I brought her there. They had an extensive list of treatment for her, and costs. It was stressful. I gave them permission for treatment and a deposit before they could do anything. They told me she started to go into distress when put in the Oxygen tank and tube, I wanted them to do whatver they could to help her, and Cheshire blinked at me when I was in the room with her right next to her. She wasn't really blinking before that as whe had a tube in her mouth that was helping her breath. This was so painful for me. Her heart gave out, and that's how she went. I don't know if anyone on here has been through anything like this, but I've wondered if by brining her to that hospital and trhing to get here more help to stabilize her for a transfusion caused her more distresss that lead to her passing? I've talked to the doctors who told me no, that didn't do it, she was just very sick,a nd even if i'd brought her home, she would haev onyl survived a few days or 24 hours. I even had jsut bought the Mega C plus which I had heard good things about reversing felv. I told her how much I love her and she knows that until I see her again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
Hi Anndrea, Don't give up on her yet! The yellow is jaundice and does have to do with liver - could be among other things "fatty liver syndrome."You need to take her back to the vet. Fatty liver can be treated by adequate caloric intake. You need to learn assist feeding (which isn't that hard). She's probably not using the litter box because she isn't eating or drinking. Did they say anything about dehydration? Anemia can be difficult, Did the vet say anything about whether it is regenerative or non regenerative? Kelley 2010/9/28 A D > Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years > old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls > running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ > > Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day > (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of > their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day > that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the > following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box > (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a > day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs > in the first place L). > > > > I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her > to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens > build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that > her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s > a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get > all she was supposed to. > > > > When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. > She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the > dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back > out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she > has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. > > > > Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I > know that has something to do with her liver not working right. > > > > Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or > something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L > > > > Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we > know if she has pain? > > > > The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for > the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any > better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test > negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And > I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing > symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so > bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. > > > > At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured > if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a > seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be > time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance > to survive…ya know? > > > > Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really > very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who > has to deal with it. > > > > ~Anndrea > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
Was the cat actually diagnosed with hepatic lipidosis? In my experience, cats that have never been overweight, very seldom get it. It obviously must be something to do with the liver or as a result of the compromised immune system.. PetTinic results are not fast, it takes a long time to show improvement for anemia. Don't give too much of it, I usually gave .25mL twice a day. If the urine is dark, it would definitely help to give fluids if the cat doesn't drink on her own - or try fiving her water throughout the day with an syringe or eyedropper. Maybe you could also feed with a syringe throughout the day, tiny amounts. She's probably feeling nauseous, too. Is her mouth OK? Is there something that would keep her from eating - gums (aside from being white), teeth? What a shame that your regular vet wasn't there. Good luck! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of A D Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
I'm sorry you and your cat are going through this. There is a lot you can do starting with getting food into her. Sounds like she is jaundiced which is a sign of Hepatic Lipidosis. The cure for this if food. FHL makes a cat very nauseated which definitely affects their appetite. Talk to your vet about testing for FHL. Ask your vet for something for the nausea like ondansetron. There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding group you can join. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ She needs food to help with the FeLV and cure the FHL. You will have to assist feed her. FAF has some good info on how to do this. I have syringe fed many cats. You can start with a meat baby food (no onions or garlic) which can be syringe fed without dilution. You can get the syringes from you local pharmacy in the baby section. I blend a jar of meat baby food with a can of pate style food and syringe feed that. You can add the abx, Pet-Tinic and other supplements to the food you are syringe feeding. Pet-Tinic does not have folic acid which is also needed for the anemia. If she is going to have a chance you need to actively work on getting food into her. Get copies of all her test results from the vet. This is a must if you are going to help her. Everyone should always get copies of all test results from their vet. You need the info to research treatment options. Don't know what else to say - feed the cat! Sharyl --- On Tue, 9/28/10, A D wrote: > From: A D > Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 3:24 AM > Hi, my cat was the picture of health > about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years > old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally > bounce off the walls > running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ > > Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping > constantly, and one day > (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned > white…instead of > their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some > blood…said that day > that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got > the results the > following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses > the litter box > (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps > almost 24 hours a > day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only > started at 7lbs > in the first place L). > > > > I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I > tried to get her > to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is > to help kittens > build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics > the Monday that > her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the > medicine. It’s > a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she > probably didn’t get > all she was supposed to. > > > > When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of > canned cat food. > She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the > kitchen (where the > dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on > her way back > out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m > not even sure she > has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not > like this. > > > > Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started > turning yellow. I > know that has something to do with her liver not working > right. > > > > Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is > 29%-45% (or > something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L > > > > Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help > her? How will we > know if she has pain? > > > > The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular > vet was out for > the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and > seems any > better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off > and can test > negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats > get over this. And > I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, > after showing > symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at > her…and she looks so > bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to > watch. > > > > At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to > sleep? I figured > if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those > are), or has a > seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, > that it would be > time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give > her every chance > to survive…ya know? > > > > Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can > tell this is really > very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone > and everyone who > has to deal with it. > > > > ~Anndrea > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvta
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
Anndrea- try some Stage One baby foods (beef, chicken, ham, etc.) that just have meat in them- I mix a 3 ounce jar with 3 ounces of hot tap water, mix it up well, and they will lap it up. And with the canned food, try mixing it with hot water also. Mash it up good, so that it's all "liquid". She may just not feel like chewing. I feel like that sometimes :-) -Original Message- From: A D [mailto:unspecifie...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
My Tucson has had a couple of episodes where he gums, etc were real pale & wouldn't eat--not eating for her is a sure sign she really is sick. My vet gave her a series of immune regulin shots & she bounced back. In the meantime, I cleaned out the refrigerator trying to find something she would eat. I got her Gerber baby food (stage 2) ham, turkey & beef in gravy and she did lick a couple of teaspoon fulls. Gave her the "Tuna water" from canned tuna, cold cuts, cheese, anything and everything. Believe it or not, warm Kentucky Fried Chicken (or something similar) can sometimes be a lure. Trappers use it to lure ferals. She'd nibble a bit but then wouldn't eat it again so I always had to come up with something else. If your cat is dehydrated, you can do fluids at home--its not hard at all. Vet can show you how to do that & give you the fluid bottles & hookup. Getting medicine in a cat--particularly one who's sick & doesn't want to eat-is a major challenge. Syringing liquids into her mouth is never perfect but its better than nothing--if she spits most of it out, you can shoot a bit more a second time & hope you got enough in her. There's also a petinic like product that comes in a tube--its malt based & sometimes, the cats love it and will lick it off your finger. I know its tough and very scary. But it sounds like you're doing all that you can do... Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of A D Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
My vet also give sick cats his special "cocktail" injection which contains B12, Vitaminc C and several other things. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV My Tucson has had a couple of episodes where he gums, etc were real pale & wouldn't eat--not eating for her is a sure sign she really is sick. My vet gave her a series of immune regulin shots & she bounced back. In the meantime, I cleaned out the refrigerator trying to find something she would eat. I got her Gerber baby food (stage 2) ham, turkey & beef in gravy and she did lick a couple of teaspoon fulls. Gave her the "Tuna water" from canned tuna, cold cuts, cheese, anything and everything. Believe it or not, warm Kentucky Fried Chicken (or something similar) can sometimes be a lure. Trappers use it to lure ferals. She'd nibble a bit but then wouldn't eat it again so I always had to come up with something else. If your cat is dehydrated, you can do fluids at home--its not hard at all. Vet can show you how to do that & give you the fluid bottles & hookup. Getting medicine in a cat--particularly one who's sick & doesn't want to eat-is a major challenge. Syringing liquids into her mouth is never perfect but its better than nothing--if she spits most of it out, you can shoot a bit more a second time & hope you got enough in her. There's also a petinic like product that comes in a tube--its malt based & sometimes, the cats love it and will lick it off your finger. I know its tough and very scary. But it sounds like you're doing all that you can do... Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of A D Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvt
[Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV
Hi- I work with a nonprofit animal rescue based in Cincinnati, Ohio. Two weeks ago we took in an owner-surrender cat who tested positive yesterday for FeLV. We had him retested this evening at another facility and that test also came back positive. Unfortunately we do not have any fosters who can accommodate an FeLV-positive cat out of concern for our own and other foster animals. I am trying desperately to find alternate placement for Oscar locally, but am not having a lot of success. Oscar is a purebred odd-eyed white Persian cat. He is about three years old and is asymptomatic. He was purchased from a breeder as a kitten and was kept as an indoor-only cat in a household with no other cats. Does anyone here know of any resources or organizations that may be able to take Oscar in? We are willing to transport Oscar (within reason). He has been neutered and will be fully vaccinated prior to placement. I would absolutely hate for this friendly, gorgeous cat to be euthanized simply because alternate placement cannot be found. Thank you, Rachel Richardson ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV
There's a pretty active Persian Yahoo group that might be of help. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Persian_Rescue/ Also, do you know if both the Snap Elissa test (in office) AND the IFA (Blood test sent out) were done. Make sure the IFA is done as you really need to confirm the Snap test results. Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV Hi- I work with a nonprofit animal rescue based in Cincinnati, Ohio. Two weeks ago we took in an owner-surrender cat who tested positive yesterday for FeLV. We had him retested this evening at another facility and that test also came back positive. Unfortunately we do not have any fosters who can accommodate an FeLV-positive cat out of concern for our own and other foster animals. I am trying desperately to find alternate placement for Oscar locally, but am not having a lot of success. Oscar is a purebred odd-eyed white Persian cat. He is about three years old and is asymptomatic. He was purchased from a breeder as a kitten and was kept as an indoor-only cat in a household with no other cats. Does anyone here know of any resources or organizations that may be able to take Oscar in? We are willing to transport Oscar (within reason). He has been neutered and will be fully vaccinated prior to placement. I would absolutely hate for this friendly, gorgeous cat to be euthanized simply because alternate placement cannot be found. Thank you, Rachel Richardson ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV
Rachel, check with the vets to see what test was used. There has been a lot of reports of false positives with the new IDEXX heartworm/FeLV/FIV combo test. If that was the test used please arrange for the IFA test before making any decisions about Oscar. Sharyl --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Rachel wrote: > From: Rachel > Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 10:45 PM > Hi- > > I work with a nonprofit animal rescue based in Cincinnati, > Ohio. Two weeks ago > we took in an owner-surrender cat who tested positive > yesterday for FeLV. We > had him retested this evening at another facility and that > test also came back > positive. Unfortunately we do not have any fosters > who can accommodate an > FeLV-positive cat out of concern for our own and other > foster animals. I am > trying desperately to find alternate placement for Oscar > locally, but am not > having a lot of success. > > > Oscar is a purebred odd-eyed white Persian cat. He is > about three years old and > is asymptomatic. He was purchased from a breeder as a > kitten and was kept as an > indoor-only cat in a household with no other cats. > Does anyone here know of any > resources or organizations that may be able to take Oscar > in? We are willing to > transport Oscar (within reason). He has been neutered > and will be fully > vaccinated prior to placement. I would absolutely > hate for this friendly, > gorgeous cat to be euthanized simply because alternate > placement cannot be > found. > > Thank you, > > Rachel Richardson > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV
Might also check out http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html Regarding the two stages of viremia, and what the elisa test and the Ifa test are for. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2010, at 11:10 PM, Sharyl wrote: > Rachel, check with the vets to see what test was used. There has been a lot > of reports of false positives with the new IDEXX heartworm/FeLV/FIV combo > test. If that was the test used please arrange for the IFA test before > making any decisions about Oscar. > Sharyl > > --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Rachel wrote: > >> From: Rachel >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster cat with FeLV >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 10:45 PM >> Hi- >> >> I work with a nonprofit animal rescue based in Cincinnati, >> Ohio. Two weeks ago >> we took in an owner-surrender cat who tested positive >> yesterday for FeLV. We >> had him retested this evening at another facility and that >> test also came back >> positive. Unfortunately we do not have any fosters >> who can accommodate an >> FeLV-positive cat out of concern for our own and other >> foster animals. I am >> trying desperately to find alternate placement for Oscar >> locally, but am not >> having a lot of success. >> >> >> Oscar is a purebred odd-eyed white Persian cat. He is >> about three years old and >> is asymptomatic. He was purchased from a breeder as a >> kitten and was kept as an >> indoor-only cat in a household with no other cats. >> Does anyone here know of any >> resources or organizations that may be able to take Oscar >> in? We are willing to >> transport Oscar (within reason). He has been neutered >> and will be fully >> vaccinated prior to placement. I would absolutely >> hate for this friendly, >> gorgeous cat to be euthanized simply because alternate >> placement cannot be >> found. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Rachel Richardson >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org