Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

Absolutely agree!
 
Any vets whose first word when seeing felk positive cat is to KILL should not 
even be a veterinarian - must be an idiot, don't know anything about the virus.
 
Hideyo
 

> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:40:21 -0400
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> 
> I
> On 06-22, Edna Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is
> > kill the kitten :(
> 
> 
> I agree. Our vet never suggests euthanasia, but does tell me
> the possible outcome with a FelV pos. cat.
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Lorrie
I
On 06-22, Edna Taylor wrote:
> 
> Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is
> kill the kitten :(

  
I agree. Our vet never suggests euthanasia, but does tell me
the possible outcome with a FelV pos. cat.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Natalie
I know from experience about false positives, and false negatives!  But how
can kittens be FeLV+ if mom wasn't, unless she was exposed, kittens got it
through birth or from milk, and she would soon test positive.  I wonder, in
that scenario, could she also turn out to be negative, not having succumbed
to it.
I am more of a FIV expert, because I have had too numerous to mention by
case (since 1992), FIV+ mothers, whose kittens NEVER tested positive, UNLESS
it was done when they were too young - then you wait, do it again, and many
vets and people don't, they merely kill them!!!  Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

Natalie,
Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have
positive babies.  Happened to me.  Also, if they are tested
immediately upon rescue, there can be false negatives because the
virus is still incubating and hasn't had time to show up yet.  Also
happened to me.  Even if a rescue or shelter has run tests on mom and
all babies, they should warn people not to put too much faith in a
single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the importance of
quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run.
In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still
negative.  One of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV
issues until the very end.  He was a joy to have known, and I still
miss him.

Best wishes,
Beth

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie 
> I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is totally
> unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if there was a
> mother cat, she should have been tested.  Depending on the kitten's age at
> the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also have been tested!
 Any
> cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV negative!
> I'm sure you will hear more from others!
> Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma!
> Natalie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
My Tucson tested neg on Elissa (in office) snap test when she was 6-8 weeks
old.  Then almost 6 years later, she was a bit ill & my very sharp vet at
the time, retested her & she tested pos for FELV (Elissa & IFA).  Now 7
years later, Tucson is still with us and intermixed with the 3 other cats
had lived with prior to the pos test.  They all tested neg even though they
had shared dishes, litter boxes, toys, groomed each other, etc. all those
years.  I did lose my romeo, a stray I took in who did turn out to be pos.
He was around 4 when I took him in & died last year 6 years later of
lymphoma.  Again, I mixed all of them.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

Natalie,
Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have positive
babies.  Happened to me.  Also, if they are tested immediately upon rescue,
there can be false negatives because the virus is still incubating and
hasn't had time to show up yet.  Also happened to me.  Even if a rescue or
shelter has run tests on mom and all babies, they should warn people not to
put too much faith in a single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the
importance of quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run.
In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still negative.  One
of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV issues until the very
end.  He was a joy to have known, and I still miss him.

Best wishes,
Beth

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie 
> I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is 
> totally unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if 
> there was a mother cat, she should have been tested.  Depending on the 
> kitten's age at the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also 
> have been tested!  Any cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV
negative!
> I'm sure you will hear more from others!
> Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma!
> Natalie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 today

2011-06-22 Thread Natalie
Cathy, if Cali isn't eating, get some A-D from the vet(Hills Science Diet), and 
another thing you can do is add something really aromatic to the regular food 
pr to A-D: Sardines, mackerel, tuna, etc.  It works for me every time, even if 
they don't eat much, they will have some of those smelly goodies!
Good luck at the vet!
Natalie

From: "ckess...@cox.net" 
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Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 11:47:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 
today

Ben,

I am going to see Dr. Wright at 2:00 today.  Cali ate really good last night 
and 
actually played a little, but today her fever is back up and she doesn't want 
to 
eat.  Thank you for your suggestion of Dr. Wright.  I will see what Dr. Wright 
has to say and let everyone know.

Cathy

 Ben Williams  wrote: 

=
I have to agree - we give all of our kitties a supplement called "kittievite" - 
it's a malt paste with a good daily multivitamin included... They never want to 
just eat the stuff, so we smear a little on their haunches, and they go about 
cleaning themselves and getting their vitamins.  Works like a charm and the 
effects are almost immediately noticeable in their luxuriously shiny coats!  


On the subject of vets in the Dallas area, we see Dr. Benjamin Wright at 
Lakewood Vet Clinic - he's great with felv cats and is always open to trying 
new 
things. He saved our Dexter last year, so I have nothing but awesome things to 
say about him.  His office can  be reached at 214.826.4800.  Dr wright is 
ordering the T-cell treatment for Dexter - hoping to have it thursday.

Ben

On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin 
>supplements.  Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin 
>supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or 
>future vet - it helps a lot!
> Natalie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: Kelley Saveika
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> 
> Thanks Kelley,
> 
> When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted 
> her.  
>We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative.  
>
> 
> I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated 
>unless we adopt out Sasha.  I don't really want to do that either.  I have 
>seen 
>a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work 
>with people with kittens who are FELV+.  I guess I will look into him.
> 
> Blood transfusions are so expensive though.  There is so much to do and it 
>seems like so little time.  I appreciate your words of encouragement.
> 
> Cathy
> 
>  Kelley Saveika  wrote: 
> 
> =
> Hi Cathy,
> 
> I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart
> disease, I thought I would die.  But they all die of something,
> unfortunately, and I think the "special health" kitties are the most special
> in other ways.
> 
> We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary.
> Maybe she can give you some advice.
> 
> 
> I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and
> FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong.  I would
> get a confirmatory IFA test.  I would get my other cat tested and
> vaccinated.   You may want to separate them.  Some do and some don't.
> 
> I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may
> make her sick someday.  Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS
> based on the result of a test.
> 
> Love and light,
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before and
>> I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm to
>> start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be.
>> We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and
>> overlooks the skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday,
>> I became worried so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always been
>> little, but playful and happy until last week.
>> 
>> They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had
>> ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
>> get it - die.
>> 
>> Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas
>> last July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
>> be in apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
>> so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
>> she is very healthy.
>> 
>> The e

Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 today

2011-06-22 Thread Barb Moermond
great!  I look forward to hearing about a visit with a compassionate 
open-minded 
vet:)
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 

- Anonymous





From: "ckess...@cox.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 11:47:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 
today

Ben,

I am going to see Dr. Wright at 2:00 today.  Cali ate really good last night 
and 
actually played a little, but today her fever is back up and she doesn't want 
to 
eat.  Thank you for your suggestion of Dr. Wright.  I will see what Dr. Wright 
has to say and let everyone know.

Cathy

 Ben Williams  wrote: 

=
I have to agree - we give all of our kitties a supplement called "kittievite" - 
it's a malt paste with a good daily multivitamin included... They never want to 
just eat the stuff, so we smear a little on their haunches, and they go about 
cleaning themselves and getting their vitamins.  Works like a charm and the 
effects are almost immediately noticeable in their luxuriously shiny coats!  


On the subject of vets in the Dallas area, we see Dr. Benjamin Wright at 
Lakewood Vet Clinic - he's great with felv cats and is always open to trying 
new 
things. He saved our Dexter last year, so I have nothing but awesome things to 
say about him.  His office can  be reached at 214.826.4800.  Dr wright is 
ordering the T-cell treatment for Dexter - hoping to have it thursday.

Ben

On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin 
>supplements.  Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin 
>supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or 
>future vet - it helps a lot!
> Natalie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: Kelley Saveika
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> 
> Thanks Kelley,
> 
> When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted 
> her.  
>We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative.  
>
> 
> I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated 
>unless we adopt out Sasha.  I don't really want to do that either.  I have 
>seen 
>a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work 
>with people with kittens who are FELV+.  I guess I will look into him.
> 
> Blood transfusions are so expensive though.  There is so much to do and it 
>seems like so little time.  I appreciate your words of encouragement.
> 
> Cathy
> 
>  Kelley Saveika  wrote: 
> 
> =
> Hi Cathy,
> 
> I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart
> disease, I thought I would die.  But they all die of something,
> unfortunately, and I think the "special health" kitties are the most special
> in other ways.
> 
> We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary.
> Maybe she can give you some advice.
> 
> 
> I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and
> FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong.  I would
> get a confirmatory IFA test.  I would get my other cat tested and
> vaccinated.   You may want to separate them.  Some do and some don't.
> 
> I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may
> make her sick someday.  Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS
> based on the result of a test.
> 
> Love and light,
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before and
>> I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm to
>> start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be.
>> We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and
>> overlooks the skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday,
>> I became worried so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always been
>> little, but playful and happy until last week.
>> 
>> They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had
>> ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
>> get it - die.
>> 
>> Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas
>> last July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
>> be in apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
>> so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
>> she is very healthy.
>> 
>> The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 today

2011-06-22 Thread ckessel1
Ben,

I am going to see Dr. Wright at 2:00 today.  Cali ate really good last night 
and actually played a little, but today her fever is back up and she doesn't 
want to eat.  Thank you for your suggestion of Dr. Wright.  I will see what Dr. 
Wright has to say and let everyone know.

Cathy

 Ben Williams  wrote: 

=
I have to agree - we give all of our kitties a supplement called "kittievite" - 
it's a malt paste with a good daily multivitamin included... They never want to 
just eat the stuff, so we smear a little on their haunches, and they go about 
cleaning themselves and getting their vitamins.  Works like a charm and the 
effects are almost immediately noticeable in their luxuriously shiny coats!  

On the subject of vets in the Dallas area, we see Dr. Benjamin Wright at 
Lakewood Vet Clinic - he's great with felv cats and is always open to trying 
new things. He saved our Dexter last year, so I have nothing but awesome things 
to say about him.  His office can  be reached at 214.826.4800.  Dr wright is 
ordering the T-cell treatment for Dexter - hoping to have it thursday.

Ben

On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin 
> supplements.  Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin 
> supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or 
> future vet - it helps a lot!
> Natalie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: Kelley Saveika
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> 
> Thanks Kelley,
> 
> When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted 
> her.  We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative.  
> 
> I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated 
> unless we adopt out Sasha.  I don't really want to do that either.  I have 
> seen a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to 
> work with people with kittens who are FELV+.  I guess I will look into him.
> 
> Blood transfusions are so expensive though.  There is so much to do and it 
> seems like so little time.  I appreciate your words of encouragement.
> 
> Cathy
> 
>  Kelley Saveika  wrote: 
> 
> =
> Hi Cathy,
> 
> I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart
> disease, I thought I would die.  But they all die of something,
> unfortunately, and I think the "special health" kitties are the most special
> in other ways.
> 
> We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary.
> Maybe she can give you some advice.
> 
> 
> I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and
> FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong.  I would
> get a confirmatory IFA test.  I would get my other cat tested and
> vaccinated.   You may want to separate them.  Some do and some don't.
> 
> I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may
> make her sick someday.  Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS
> based on the result of a test.
> 
> Love and light,
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before and
>> I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm to
>> start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be.
>> We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and
>> overlooks the skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday,
>> I became worried so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always been
>> little, but playful and happy until last week.
>> 
>> They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had
>> ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
>> get it - die.
>> 
>> Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas
>> last July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
>> be in apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
>> so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
>> she is very healthy.
>> 
>> The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me
>> that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't
>> get better so she should be put down.  For all of you out there, please say
>> a prayer for me and Cali.  She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds
>> and she has been a real fighter.  I don't know how I will find the strength
>> to put her to sleep.
>> 
>> She is so little.  I want her to get better.  I can't stop crying.
>> 
>> Cathy Kessel
>> (858) 361-8972
>> 
>> 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Beth Noren
Natalie,
Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have
positive babies.  Happened to me.  Also, if they are tested
immediately upon rescue, there can be false negatives because the
virus is still incubating and hasn't had time to show up yet.  Also
happened to me.  Even if a rescue or shelter has run tests on mom and
all babies, they should warn people not to put too much faith in a
single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the importance of
quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run.
In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still
negative.  One of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV
issues until the very end.  He was a joy to have known, and I still
miss him.

Best wishes,
Beth

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie 
> I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is totally
> unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if there was a
> mother cat, she should have been tested.  Depending on the kitten's age at
> the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also have been tested!  Any
> cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV negative!
> I'm sure you will hear more from others!
> Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma!
> Natalie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fleas & Hylands bioplasma tablets

2011-06-22 Thread Beth Noren
Hi Cindy,
I'm not familiar with Hyland's Bioplasma tablets either, but if you
decide to try them
and they don't work, maybe talk to your vet about Cyclosporine.  I
have 2 boys with severe allergies (one food/environmental, one just
environmental) and tried many things, including food trials and
allergy shots.  The cyclosporine is the only thing that works for us.
Hate to have them on a drug forever, but my vet says the feedback has
been pretty positive on it, few problems so far (It's a fairly new
drug for cats).  Mine have been on it for 3 years and 1 year, they get
yearly CBC's, but no issues so far.  They are now on 25mg per day, 5
days per week.  It costs about $43.00 for 30 pills.  It took about 4-5
months to start working on one of the boys, but his quality of life is
now so much improved.  No more e-collar, yay!!!

Best wishes,
Beth N.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Cindy McHugh  wrote:
> Thanks Dana - and everyone else too!

So far, the aggression and spraying haven't been a problem,
> but he continues to lick/chew himself raw.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Katy Doyle
My new vet cracked me up when I took Chloe in for her yearly shots.

He said, "Chloe is a little overweight, but since she has feline leukemia, I
don't really mind. Usually, cats with feline leukemia are under weight." Not
my cat!!!

It just made me smile :-)

---Katy

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

>
> Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the
> kitten :(
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:31 -0400
> > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
>  >
> > Cathy,
> >
> > I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was
> 5
> > weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he
> tested
> > positive.
> >
> > Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So
> as
> > Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet "YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
> KILL
> > MY KITTEN!!!" And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think
> it
> > made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents
> after
> > that.
> >
> > I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now
> > Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy.
> >
> > I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever
> be
> > the first option.
> >
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Katy
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl  wrote:
> >
> > > Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several
> FeLV
> > > kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+
> years
> > > of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my
> > > negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine.
> > >
> > > You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you.
> I
> > > would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already.
> > >
> > > I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been
> tested
> > > for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the
> rescued
> > > kittens before offering them for adoption.
> > >
> > > Give Cali a hug from me.
> > > Sharyl
> > >
> > > From: "ckess...@cox.net" 
> > > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> > >
> > > I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before
> > > and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had
> Ringworm
> > > to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as
> can
> > > be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our
> high-rise
> > > and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on
> > > Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's
> always
> > > been little, but playful and happy until last week.
> > >
> > > They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I
> had
> > > ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats
> who
> > > get it - die.
> > >
> > > Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to
> Dallas
> > > last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs
> should
> > > be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by
> herself,
> > > so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha)
> and
> > > she is very healthy.
> > >
> > > The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told
> me
> > > that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali
> won't
> > > get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please
> say
> > > a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5
> pounds
> > > and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the
> strength
> > > to put her to sleep.
> > >
> > > She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying.
> > >
> > > Cathy Kessel
> > > (858) 361-8972
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Terri Brown
Cathy,

I agree -- PTS isn't always the answer.  Consult with the Vet that Barb 
suggested and stick to your guns.  Barb has been on this list a long time, and 
she knows what she's talking about.
I've been lurking for the past few years -- but I had a total of 5 FeLV babies, 
and the oldest lived to be 9-1/2.  So don't despair.  My home is currently FeLV 
free, but these babies deserve a chance.  there ARE options available.  

=^..^= Terri, Siggie, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, 
Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten



  Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the 
kitten :(
   

  > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:31 -0400
  > From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
  > 
  > Cathy,
  > 
  > I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5
  > weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested
  > positive.
  > 
  > Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as
  > Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet "YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL
  > MY KITTEN!!!" And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it
  > made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after
  > that.
  > 
  > I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now
  > Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy.
  > 
  > I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be
  > the first option.
  > 
  > 
  > Good luck!
  > Katy
  > 
  > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl 
mailto:cline...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
  > 
  > > Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV
  > > kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years
  > > of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my
  > > negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine.
  > >
  > > You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I
  > > would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already.
  > >
  > > I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been 
tested
  > > for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued
  > > kittens before offering them for adoption.
  > >
  > > Give Cali a hug from me.
  > > Sharyl
  > >
  > > From: "ckess...@cox.net" 
mailto:ckess...@cox.net>>
  > > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  > > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM
  > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
  > >
  > > I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before
  > > and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had 
Ringworm
  > > to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can
  > > be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise
  > > and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on
  > > Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always
  > > been little, but playful and happy until last week.
  > >
  > > They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had
  > > ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
  > > get it - die.
  > >
  > > Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas
  > > last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs 
should
  > > be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
  > > so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) 
and
  > > she is very healthy.
  > >
  > > The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me
  > > that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali 
won't
  > > get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say
  > > a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds
  > > and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength
  > > to put her to sleep.
  > >
  > > She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying.
  > >
  > > Cathy Kessel
  > > (858) 361-8972
  > >
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  > > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Edna Taylor

Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the 
kitten :(
 

> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:31 -0400
> From: athenapities...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> 
> Cathy,
> 
> I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5
> weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested
> positive.
> 
> Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as
> Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet "YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL
> MY KITTEN!!!" And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it
> made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after
> that.
> 
> I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now
> Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy.
> 
> I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be
> the first option.
> 
> 
> Good luck!
> Katy
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl  wrote:
> 
> > Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV
> > kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years
> > of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my
> > negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine.
> >
> > You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I
> > would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already.
> >
> > I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested
> > for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued
> > kittens before offering them for adoption.
> >
> > Give Cali a hug from me.
> > Sharyl
> >
> > From: "ckess...@cox.net" 
> > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> >
> > I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before
> > and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm
> > to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can
> > be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise
> > and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on
> > Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always
> > been little, but playful and happy until last week.
> >
> > They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had
> > ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
> > get it - die.
> >
> > Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas
> > last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
> > be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
> > so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
> > she is very healthy.
> >
> > The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me
> > that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't
> > get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say
> > a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds
> > and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength
> > to put her to sleep.
> >
> > She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying.
> >
> > Cathy Kessel
> > (858) 361-8972
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Katy Doyle
Cathy,

I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5
weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested
positive.

Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as
Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet "YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL
MY KITTEN!!!" And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it
made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after
that.

I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now
Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy.

I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be
the first option.


Good luck!
Katy

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl  wrote:

> Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise.  I've rescued several FeLV
> kittens and treasured the time I had with them.  They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years
> of being pampered and loved.  I mixed my positives and negatives but my
> negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine.
>
> You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you.  I
> would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already.
>
> I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested
> for FeLV or FIV.  I also do TNR and rescue kittens.  I test all the rescued
> kittens before offering them for adoption.
>
> Give Cali a hug from me.
> Sharyl
>
> From: "ckess...@cox.net" 
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
>
>  I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before
> and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm
> to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can
> be.  We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise
> and overlooks the skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on
> Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always
> been little, but playful and happy until last week.
>
> They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had
> ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
> get it - die.
>
> Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas
> last July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
> be in apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
> so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
> she is very healthy.
>
> The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me
> that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't
> get better so she should be put down.  For all of you out there, please say
> a prayer for me and Cali.  She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds
> and she has been a real fighter.  I don't know how I will find the strength
> to put her to sleep.
>
> She is so little.  I want her to get better.  I can't stop crying.
>
> Cathy Kessel
> (858) 361-8972
>
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