Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

[MaiMaiPG]

Maybe leave a tv or radio on???  The new one is probably used to  
someone around 24/7.


On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:54 PM,  > wrote:


I also got my "new" ones suddenly so I had a few hissing, slapping  
episodes to begin with, but now we are settld down to just a few  
episodes.  Mostly it happens when someone rounds a corner at the  
same time as someone else coming from te opposite direction.  It has  
never gone beyond slaps and hisses.  Becuse of the felv issus, you  
might have to isolate her at first, but ifyou gve her lots of love  
wen you get home and don't ignore your boy, shouldn't be too bad.   
Maybe a friend/neighbor could come in for a few minutes each day and  
love on both of them to comfort them?

 Edna Taylor  wrote:


Bonnie,

Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true  
Cat Intro 101 instructions :)


Edna



From: ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700
Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

Hi Everyone

Life can be stressful sometimes.

My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking  
her cat. I
took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the  
household
very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- 
mannered little
one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately  
he spied a
growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm  
picking

her up in a couple hours.



The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to  
prepare.
And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I  
can put
her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I  
don't want
her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead  
of a three

weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two.



This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many.  
The vet

said, "Well, four or five isn't much different." Bless him.



What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room  
7-14 days,

or longer?



Thanks for your input!

Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

[Lorrie]

Hi Bonnie, 

Thank you for taking your aunt's cat.  From description you gave us,
it sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into
your household.  I think she will be more comfortable confined to one
room at first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4
other cats all at once.

Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four.  
I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have
15 All rescued.  Thankfully our house is large and they also
have three outdoor enclosures they can access from the house. 

Let us know what the biopsy results show.  I hope she is FelV neg.
and the biopsy is benign.

Lorrie

 
On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Life can be stressful sometimes.
> 
> My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her
> cat.  I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part
> of the household very nicely.  This little cat, Princess, is a
> sweet and mild-mannered little one.  I took her to the vet today
> for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. 
> He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a
> couple hours.
> 
> The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to
> prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week
> (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes
> back.  But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. 
> I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate
> her in a week or two.

> This will make FIVE indoor cats for me.  I've never had so many. 
> The vet said, "Well, four or five isn't much different." Bless him.
> 
> What's the conventional wisdom out there?  Leave her in the room
> 7-14 days, or longer?
> 
> Thanks for your input!
> 
> Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats provided for upon death

[Lorrie]

On 07-29, MaiMaiPG wrote:

> Proof that animals need to be provided for in wills!

So very true, and I have a will giving $1,000 with each cat, but my
problem is WHO will take them?  WHO can I trust not to take the money
and dump the cat?  My three kids and grand kids will each take one or
two, but they have a bunch of cats of their own, and my cat loving 
friends are few and far between.  

We have discussed this on the list before, and sadly I am no closer
to finding the answer?

Ideally I want someone to move into our house to care for them, but 
there again WHO?

Lorrie

> On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Natalie wrote:
> 
> >That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their
> >relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about
> >someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to
> >assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail:
> >If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it
> >outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters!  You
> >should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living
> >in the lap of luxury while their "parent" were taking care of
> >them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals
> >would have to end up like that?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks for your responses!  I appreciate it.
Princess got the in-office Felv test and was negative (thank goodness).  The
biopsy result should be available Mon. or Tue. but the vet said "it looked
rather nasty"...
Poor little think peed in the cage and now smells pretty bad.  I'm thinking
of bathing her (more trauma!) but want to give her a few days to acclimate.
She finally came out from under the bed this morning and let me pet her
while she ate.  What a little sweetheart.  She has the prettiest little
"pointy" face.  She looks like she is smiling.   And she purred while I pet
her, so hopefully she understands she is not in danger.
Will keep you posted!
B.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

Hi Bonnie, 

Thank you for taking your aunt's cat.  From description you gave us, it
sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into your
household.  I think she will be more comfortable confined to one room at
first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4 other cats all
at once.

Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four.  
I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have 15
All rescued.  Thankfully our house is large and they also have three outdoor
enclosures they can access from the house. 

Let us know what the biopsy results show.  I hope she is FelV neg.
and the biopsy is benign.

Lorrie

 
On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Life can be stressful sometimes.
> 
> My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her 
> cat.  I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of 
> the household very nicely.  This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and 
> mild-mannered little one.  I took her to the vet today for a checkup 
> and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue.
> He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple 
> hours.
> 
> The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to 
> prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week 
> (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes 
> back.  But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened.
> I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her 
> in a week or two.

> This will make FIVE indoor cats for me.  I've never had so many. 
> The vet said, "Well, four or five isn't much different." Bless him.
> 
> What's the conventional wisdom out there?  Leave her in the room
> 7-14 days, or longer?
> 
> Thanks for your input!
> 
> Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[dlgegg]

My vet gave Homey a antbiotic shot that lasts 2 weeks - easier than pills or 
liquids daily.  I also got a Chinese herbal pill from All Natural Pets.  It is 
a small, round gel cap.  Goes down real easy, before she has a chance to spit 
it out. It has dendrobium in it and other herbs.  She is in good shape now and 
I monitor her intake and output.  The thing that tipped me off to a problem was 
small urine balls in the boxes about the size of a quarter.  I started watching 
everyone to see what they were putting out.  Easy since I have a box next to 
the stool in my bathroom.  When mother goes, everyone else has to go so mom can 
see what is going on.
 MaiMaiPG  wrote: 
> It has been 15 + years since she left this world (not related to the  
> stones).  There were antibiotics and steriods I think.  Somehow I  
> think there was meds to deal with the urine PH.  Sorry I can't give  
> more information.  Now I would check with a holistic vet as well as my  
> regular vets.
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
> 
> >
> > What did your vet do for the stones.  Bug has kidney stones and the  
> > vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those.  I  
> > tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the  
> > vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed  
> > individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing  
> > her any good to eat the prescription diet :(
> >
> >
> >> From: maima...@gmail.com
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> >>
> >> My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because  
> >> of
> >> bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked
> >> her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was
> >> finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research.
> >> The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we
> >> got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the
> >> symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder.
> >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very
> >>> painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order.
> >>>
> >>> Edna
> >>>
> >>>
>  From: skastel...@cicresearch.com
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700
>  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
>  I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's
>  related to
>  FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing
>  painful
>  elimination.
> 
>  Good luck to you,
>  Sara
> 
>  -Original Message-
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>  Potter
>  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
>  Greetings Everyone,
> 
>  We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our
>  vet, and
>  last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling
>  noise, i
>  thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was
>  growling in the
>  corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor
>  instead of her
>  litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and
>  Mr. Hyde,
>  she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've
>  never
>  seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was
>  more so
>  "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst
>  days
>  ever!
> 
>  Has anyone else had this happen?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[dlgegg]

Almost forgot, they say that foods containing fish may be a contributor for 
sturivite stones.  Maybe stay away from fishy things for a bit and see if that 
helps.

Especially watch the treats, they are usually heavy on fish content.
 Edna Taylor  wrote: 
> 
> What did your vet do for the stones.  Bug has kidney stones and the vet said 
> that there really is not a lot they can do for those.  I tried feeding her 
> the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the vet said if she is eating 
> anything else (very hard to feed individually when you have more than 10 
> cats) then it was not doing her any good to eat the prescription diet :(
>  
> 
> > From: maima...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> > 
> > My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of 
> > bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked 
> > her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was 
> > finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. 
> > The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we 
> > got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the 
> > symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder.
> > On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very 
> > > painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order.
> > >
> > > Edna
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700
> > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> > >>
> > >> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's 
> > >> related to
> > >> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing 
> > >> painful
> > >> elimination.
> > >>
> > >> Good luck to you,
> > >> Sara
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin 
> > >> Potter
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
> > >>
> > >> Greetings Everyone,
> > >>
> > >> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our 
> > >> vet, and
> > >> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling 
> > >> noise, i
> > >> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was 
> > >> growling in the
> > >> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor 
> > >> instead of her
> > >> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and 
> > >> Mr. Hyde,
> > >> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've 
> > >> never
> > >> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was 
> > >> more so
> > >> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst 
> > >> days
> > >> ever!
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone else had this happen?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[Natalie]

I agree, stop any fish!
Here's a list of good info on feline kidney stones and a variety of
treatments:
http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Feline+kidney+stones 

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dlg...@windstream.net
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Almost forgot, they say that foods containing fish may be a contributor for
sturivite stones.  Maybe stay away from fishy things for a bit and see if
that helps.

Especially watch the treats, they are usually heavy on fish content.
 Edna Taylor  wrote: 
> 
> What did your vet do for the stones.  Bug has kidney stones and the vet
said that there really is not a lot they can do for those.  I tried feeding
her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the vet said if she is
eating anything else (very hard to feed individually when you have more than
10 cats) then it was not doing her any good to eat the prescription diet :(
>  
> 
> > From: maima...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> > 
> > My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of 
> > bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked 
> > her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was 
> > finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. 
> > The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we 
> > got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the 
> > symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder.
> > On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very 
> > > painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order.
> > >
> > > Edna
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700
> > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> > >>
> > >> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's 
> > >> related to
> > >> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing 
> > >> painful
> > >> elimination.
> > >>
> > >> Good luck to you,
> > >> Sara
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin 
> > >> Potter
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
> > >>
> > >> Greetings Everyone,
> > >>
> > >> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our 
> > >> vet, and
> > >> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling 
> > >> noise, i
> > >> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was 
> > >> growling in the
> > >> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor 
> > >> instead of her
> > >> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and 
> > >> Mr. Hyde,
> > >> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've 
> > >> never
> > >> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was 
> > >> more so
> > >> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst 
> > >> days
> > >> ever!
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone else had this happen?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[dlgegg]

Ho covenient!  Just got an email from Only Natura Pet Store.  The pills I 
mentioned are made by Nature's Herbs for Pets b a Dr. Victor Tse.  

 MaiMaiPG  wrote: 
> It has been 15 + years since she left this world (not related to the  
> stones).  There were antibiotics and steriods I think.  Somehow I  
> think there was meds to deal with the urine PH.  Sorry I can't give  
> more information.  Now I would check with a holistic vet as well as my  
> regular vets.
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
> 
> >
> > What did your vet do for the stones.  Bug has kidney stones and the  
> > vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those.  I  
> > tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the  
> > vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed  
> > individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing  
> > her any good to eat the prescription diet :(
> >
> >
> >> From: maima...@gmail.com
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> >>
> >> My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because  
> >> of
> >> bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked
> >> her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was
> >> finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research.
> >> The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we
> >> got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the
> >> symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder.
> >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very
> >>> painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order.
> >>>
> >>> Edna
> >>>
> >>>
>  From: skastel...@cicresearch.com
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700
>  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
>  I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's
>  related to
>  FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing
>  painful
>  elimination.
> 
>  Good luck to you,
>  Sara
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin
>  Potter
>  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
>  Greetings Everyone,
> 
>  We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our
>  vet, and
>  last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling
>  noise, i
>  thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was
>  growling in the
>  corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor
>  instead of her
>  litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and
>  Mr. Hyde,
>  she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've
>  never
>  seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was
>  more so
>  "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst
>  days
>  ever!
> 
>  Has anyone else had this happen?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

[dlgegg]

I already have picked out a no kill shelter.  All my people have to do is 
transport my pride there.  I have made provision for their expenses for 
transportation and the rest goes to the shelter.  They have houses with reglar 
furniture for the cats to sleep on and outdoor areas fo them also.  Most of my 
friends/family I have left are almost as old as I am and dumping seveal cats on 
them is asking a bit much.  A good shelter that taks FELV babies is the answer. 
 It may not be the same as home, but I think it is the solution for them.  
 Natalie  wrote: 
> That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives'
> petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's
> mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and
> every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this
> cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter,
> mostly kill shelters!  You should see some of the photos of these beautiful
> animals, living in the lap of luxury while their "parent" were taking care
> of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would
> have to end up like that?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
> 
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Life can be stressful sometimes.
> 
> My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat.  I
> took my mom's cat, Lucky,  last Fall, and he's become part of the household
> very nicely.  This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little
> one.  I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a
> growth on her tongue.  He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking
> her up in a couple hours.
> 
>  
> 
> The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare.
> And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put
> her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back.  But I don't want
> her to be freaked out or too frightened.  I'm hoping that instead of a three
> weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two.
> 
>  
> 
> This will make FIVE indoor cats for me.  I've never had so many.  The vet
> said, "Well, four or five isn't much different."  Bless him.
> 
>  
> 
> What's the conventional wisdom out there?  Leave her in the room 7-14 days,
> or longer?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your input!
> 
> Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[dlgegg]

A trip to the vet and try some herbal remidies for stones.
 Edna Taylor  wrote: 
> 
> SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very painful 
> and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order.
> 
> Edna
>  
> 
> > From: skastel...@cicresearch.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> > 
> > I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's related to
> > FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing painful
> > elimination.
> > 
> > Good luck to you,
> > Sara
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter
> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
> > 
> > Greetings Everyone, 
> >  
> > We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and
> > last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i
> > thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the
> > corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her
> > litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde,
> > she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never
> > seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so
> > "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days
> > ever!
> >  
> > Has anyone else had this happen? 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats provided for upon death

[dlgegg]

As I said, I hae picked out a shelter fairly close to my home and all my people 
have to do is get thm there.  I hav also made up a letter for each one telling 
about their character, likes and dislikes, the food they eat, kind of litter I 
use, etc.  I started this because I got 2 from the no kill shelter that were 10 
years old and no one wanted "old" cats.  I knew who the previous owner was, but 
she left no information on them.  I found out the hard way that Casey is a 
bully (sits and stares until the subject goes ballistic or actually stalks 
them.  Lil Bit is so scared by every sound, movment that it has taken over 3 
years for her to leave my bedroom.
She felt secure there and would not budge.  I had to put a litter box and food 
bowl in there for her.  I also put a water fountain in the bathroom, a mere 3 
feet from my bedroom.  Just this month, she began coming into the living room 
and kitchen.  She sits on a dining room chair, hidden by the table cloth, just 
behind the sofa where I sit.  It would have been so much easier on both of us 
is I had known all this 3 years ago.  So now, I have 7 "To Whomever gets Casey, 
Lil Bit, Annie,Harley, Dee, Nitnoy, Homey" letters.  Hopefully this will make 
life easier for my babies and their "new" people during the transition.  As 
something new comes up, I update my letters.
 Lorrie  wrote: 
> On 07-29, MaiMaiPG wrote:
> 
> > Proof that animals need to be provided for in wills!
> 
> So very true, and I have a will giving $1,000 with each cat, but my
> problem is WHO will take them?  WHO can I trust not to take the money
> and dump the cat?  My three kids and grand kids will each take one or
> two, but they have a bunch of cats of their own, and my cat loving 
> friends are few and far between.  
> 
> We have discussed this on the list before, and sadly I am no closer
> to finding the answer?
> 
> Ideally I want someone to move into our house to care for them, but 
> there again WHO?
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> > On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> > >That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their
> > >relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about
> > >someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to
> > >assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail:
> > >If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it
> > >outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters!  You
> > >should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living
> > >in the lap of luxury while their "parent" were taking care of
> > >them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals
> > >would have to end up like that?
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

[dlgegg]

TRUE


 Katy Doyle  wrote: 
> I'm not rich enough to fund a campaign... and I don't enjoy sucking up to
> the people that have the money to fund me.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:28 AM,  wrote:
> 
> > Just had an idea. Why don't we run for office!
> >
> >
> >  Natalie  wrote:
> > > I bet we could build a big soap box - I have a feeling there are more
> > like
> > > us out theresomebody's got to protect what we eat!
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:38 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods
> > >
> > > Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
> > > information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
> > >
> > > You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
> > > box.
> > >
> > > Thanks..
> > >
> > > Lorrie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
> > > > Dear Reader,
> > > >
> > > > Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
> > > >
> > > > It's for your own good.
> > > >
> > > > You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least
> > according
> > > to
> > > > the Einsteins at the FDA.
> > > >
> > > > Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
> > > > unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
> > > >
> > > > Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
> > > Heart
> > > > healthy, of course!
> > > >
> > > > Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> > insanity.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Over-the-counter cherries
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components.
> > The
> > > > scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when
> > owners
> > > of
> > > > cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
> > > > evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims "cause your products to be
> > drugs."
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their
> > cherries
> > > for
> > > > approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
> > > >
> > > > Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
> > > >
> > > > Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21
> > million
> > > > to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
> > > > DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, "help
> > regulate
> > > > your digestive system...naturally."
> > > >
> > > > That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living
> > cultures
> > > in
> > > > probiotics.
> > > >
> > > > But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that "Activia
> > > provided
> > > > consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals."
> > > > Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended
> > up
> > > > costing Dannon millions.
> > > >
> > > > And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
> > > walnuts.
> > > >
> > > > They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies
> > showing
> > > > heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such
> > claims
> > > on
> > > > the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
> > > > classified walnuts as drugs.
> > > >
> > > > Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
> > > > seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
> > > their
> > > > products...
> > > >
> > > > "You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
> > > > snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
> > > > essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
> > > packed
> > > > with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
> > > > bones, teeth, nerves and muscles."
> > > >
> > > > Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before
> > the
> > > > processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
> > > >
> > > > "Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
> > > > polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and
> > LDL
> > > > 'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
> > > > support a healthy heart."
> > > >
> > > > So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
> > > you
> > > > CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
> > > > potato chips cooked in soybean oil "can support a healthy heart."
> > > >
> > > > That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
> > > > headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets.

Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

[dana giordano]

I did too - Do you recall the link where the info came from?



On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
> information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
>
> You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
> box.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
> > Dear Reader,
> >
> > Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
> >
> > It's for your own good.
> >
> > You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least according
> to
> > the Einsteins at the FDA.
> >
> > Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
> > unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
> >
> > Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
> Heart
> > healthy, of course!
> >
> > Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> insanity.
> >
> > ---
> > Over-the-counter cherries
> > ---
> >
> > Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components. The
> > scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when owners
> of
> > cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
> > evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims "cause your products to be
> drugs."
> >
> > Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their cherries
> for
> > approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
> >
> > Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
> >
> > Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21
> million
> > to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
> > DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, "help
> regulate
> > your digestive system...naturally."
> >
> > That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living cultures
> in
> > probiotics.
> >
> > But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that "Activia
> provided
> > consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals."
> > Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended up
> > costing Dannon millions.
> >
> > And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
> walnuts.
> >
> > They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies showing
> > heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such claims
> on
> > the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
> > classified walnuts as drugs.
> >
> > Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
> > seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
> their
> > products...
> >
> > "You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
> > snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
> > essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
> packed
> > with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
> > bones, teeth, nerves and muscles."
> >
> > Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before the
> > processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
> >
> > "Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
> > polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and LDL
> > 'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
> > support a healthy heart."
> >
> > So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
> you
> > CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
> > potato chips cooked in soybean oil "can support a healthy heart."
> >
> > That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
> > headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets.
> >
> > As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> > insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government.
> >
> > Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about Science
> > Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement makers
> > state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based
> evidence.
> >
> >
> > You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives and
> > senators through "Thomas," a Library of Congress website (
> > www.thomas.loc.gov ).
> >
> > Let your Congressmen know how vital it is to change these absurd FDA
> > regulations that withhold essential health information and cause
> companies
> > and growers to spend millions defending ridiculous charges.
> >
> > I mean, really...aren't there other "unapproved drugs" that are currently
> > putting us at greater risk than walnuts and cherries???
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats provided for upon death

[Lynda Wilson]

What a fantastic idea! I love the thought of each one coming with 
"instructions". Now only if our kids would have had them, lol!


Thanks so much, I'm going to do the same :)

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats provided for upon death


As I said, I hae picked out a shelter fairly close to my home and all my 
people have to do is get thm there.  I hav also made up a letter for each 
one telling about their character, likes and dislikes, the food they eat, 
kind of litter I use, etc.  I started this because I got 2 from the no 
kill shelter that were 10 years old and no one wanted "old" cats.  I knew 
who the previous owner was, but she left no information on them.  I found 
out the hard way that Casey is a bully (sits and stares until the subject 
goes ballistic or actually stalks them.  Lil Bit is so scared by every 
sound, movment that it has taken over 3 years for her to leave my bedroom.
She felt secure there and would not budge.  I had to put a litter box and 
food bowl in there for her.  I also put a water fountain in the bathroom, 
a mere 3 feet from my bedroom.  Just this month, she began coming into the 
living room and kitchen.  She sits on a dining room chair, hidden by the 
table cloth, just behind the sofa where I sit.  It would have been so much 
easier on both of us is I had known all this 3 years ago.  So now, I have 
7 "To Whomever gets Casey, Lil Bit, Annie,Harley, Dee, Nitnoy, Homey" 
letters.  Hopefully this will make life easier for my babies and their 
"new" people during the transition.  As something new comes up, I update 
my letters.

 Lorrie  wrote:

On 07-29, MaiMaiPG wrote:

> Proof that animals need to be provided for in wills!

So very true, and I have a will giving $1,000 with each cat, but my
problem is WHO will take them?  WHO can I trust not to take the money
and dump the cat?  My three kids and grand kids will each take one or
two, but they have a bunch of cats of their own, and my cat loving
friends are few and far between.

We have discussed this on the list before, and sadly I am no closer
to finding the answer?

Ideally I want someone to move into our house to care for them, but
there again WHO?

Lorrie

> On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Natalie wrote:
>
> >That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their
> >relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about
> >someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to
> >assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail:
> >If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it
> >outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters!  You
> >should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living
> >in the lap of luxury while their "parent" were taking care of
> >them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals
> >would have to end up like that?


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Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

[Natalie]

It seems like I sent it weeks ago - I wish I could remember (maybe I still
have it)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dana giordano
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

I did too - Do you recall the link where the info came from?



On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
> information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
>
> You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
> box.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
> > Dear Reader,
> >
> > Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
> >
> > It's for your own good.
> >
> > You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least
according
> to
> > the Einsteins at the FDA.
> >
> > Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
> > unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
> >
> > Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
> Heart
> > healthy, of course!
> >
> > Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> insanity.
> >
> > ---
> > Over-the-counter cherries
> > ---
> >
> > Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components.
The
> > scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when
owners
> of
> > cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
> > evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims "cause your products to be
> drugs."
> >
> > Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their cherries
> for
> > approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
> >
> > Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
> >
> > Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21
> million
> > to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
> > DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, "help
> regulate
> > your digestive system...naturally."
> >
> > That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living
cultures
> in
> > probiotics.
> >
> > But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that "Activia
> provided
> > consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals."
> > Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended
up
> > costing Dannon millions.
> >
> > And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
> walnuts.
> >
> > They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies showing
> > heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such
claims
> on
> > the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
> > classified walnuts as drugs.
> >
> > Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
> > seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
> their
> > products...
> >
> > "You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
> > snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
> > essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
> packed
> > with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
> > bones, teeth, nerves and muscles."
> >
> > Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before the
> > processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
> >
> > "Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
> > polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and LDL
> > 'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
> > support a healthy heart."
> >
> > So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
> you
> > CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
> > potato chips cooked in soybean oil "can support a healthy heart."
> >
> > That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
> > headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets.
> >
> > As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> > insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government.
> >
> > Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about
Science
> > Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement
makers
> > state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based
> evidence.
> >
> >
> > You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives
and
> > senators through "Thomas," a Library of Congress website (
> > www.thomas.loc.gov ).
> >
> > Let your Congressmen know how vital it is to change these absurd FDA
> > regulations that withhold essential health information and cause
> companies

[Felvtalk] Spotting negligent vets

[Natalie]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/5-Red-Flags-to-Spot-Potent-by-L-M-Brown-110
730-12.html 



 
 5 Red Flags to Spot Potentially Negligent Veterinarians 

Steer clear of veterinarians who may end up injuring or killing your pet! 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats provided for upon death

[dlgegg]

SORRY, CAN'T HELP YOU THERE
 Lynda Wilson  wrote: 
> What a fantastic idea! I love the thought of each one coming with 
> "instructions". Now only if our kids would have had them, lol!
> 
> Thanks so much, I'm going to do the same :)
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats provided for upon death
> 
> 
> > As I said, I hae picked out a shelter fairly close to my home and all my 
> > people have to do is get thm there.  I hav also made up a letter for each 
> > one telling about their character, likes and dislikes, the food they eat, 
> > kind of litter I use, etc.  I started this because I got 2 from the no 
> > kill shelter that were 10 years old and no one wanted "old" cats.  I knew 
> > who the previous owner was, but she left no information on them.  I found 
> > out the hard way that Casey is a bully (sits and stares until the subject 
> > goes ballistic or actually stalks them.  Lil Bit is so scared by every 
> > sound, movment that it has taken over 3 years for her to leave my bedroom.
> > She felt secure there and would not budge.  I had to put a litter box and 
> > food bowl in there for her.  I also put a water fountain in the bathroom, 
> > a mere 3 feet from my bedroom.  Just this month, she began coming into the 
> > living room and kitchen.  She sits on a dining room chair, hidden by the 
> > table cloth, just behind the sofa where I sit.  It would have been so much 
> > easier on both of us is I had known all this 3 years ago.  So now, I have 
> > 7 "To Whomever gets Casey, Lil Bit, Annie,Harley, Dee, Nitnoy, Homey" 
> > letters.  Hopefully this will make life easier for my babies and their 
> > "new" people during the transition.  As something new comes up, I update 
> > my letters.
> >  Lorrie  wrote:
> >> On 07-29, MaiMaiPG wrote:
> >>
> >> > Proof that animals need to be provided for in wills!
> >>
> >> So very true, and I have a will giving $1,000 with each cat, but my
> >> problem is WHO will take them?  WHO can I trust not to take the money
> >> and dump the cat?  My three kids and grand kids will each take one or
> >> two, but they have a bunch of cats of their own, and my cat loving
> >> friends are few and far between.
> >>
> >> We have discussed this on the list before, and sadly I am no closer
> >> to finding the answer?
> >>
> >> Ideally I want someone to move into our house to care for them, but
> >> there again WHO?
> >>
> >> Lorrie
> >>
> >> > On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Natalie wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their
> >> > >relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about
> >> > >someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to
> >> > >assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail:
> >> > >If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it
> >> > >outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters!  You
> >> > >should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living
> >> > >in the lap of luxury while their "parent" were taking care of
> >> > >them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals
> >> > >would have to end up like that?
> >>
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[Felvtalk] Retesting

[Pam Norman]

Miss Nora, the FeLeuk kitty we got adopted here in Spring Green, is due 
for retesting.  In late May she tested positive on the Elisa & then in 
the first week of June, she tested negative on the IFA.  It's my 
understanding that she should be re-tested 45 - 60 days after later. 
Would that be the Elisa or the IFA or both?


Pam
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