Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
LOL - too funny! Thanks for a great laugh. Except for one thing. Instead of baseball bat to the butt, should be upside his head. There must be blood or he won't learn his lesson! sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Date: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 5:41 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org You shoulda hid behind a car, strewn a few dollar bills on the ground, then when he came over to pick them up -- BAM! -- baseball bat to the butt! Well...bet you 'wish' you coulda! ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
You know, sometimes it seems we are progressing because of all the animal welfare movements and all the laws to protect animals. There are more and more people learning about abuse and taking a stand against it which is very encouraging. Yet it seems that in the past it was just plain common sense, decency, and compassion that kept us from needing so many of those laws to protect the animals. Sometimes I can't tell if people are getting worse or better regarding the treatment of animals. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net Date: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 4:49 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT SEEM TO LEARN. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it treat animals. Such disgusting cruelty. If there is reincarnation, guess who's going to be the prey in their next life? Maybe that way, they will learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change. ~b. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters So do Canada geese (mate for life). We live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here. We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. We actually recognize them every year because of certain markings, etc. When one loses a mate, they stay alone. I'm not sure if they ever find another life-mate or not. I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. It was sick. Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly fly up, they were so weak. Then these brave men would take potshots at them. Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields, dying a slow death. Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated pigeon at me. We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them humanely. It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty people amusing themselves. Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from THAT! On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com wrote: Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season. We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our fences to retrieve the bloody bodies. One afternoon the shotgun pellets ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons
On 09-14, Bonnie Hogue wrote: This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out and put on my 'fridge. The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's exam table. The doctor stands nearby looking at the chart and saying, The bad news is you have advanced case humans...The good news is they've about run their course and you should be on the mend soon. Ha! LOVE IT! I have a cartoon that shows a human strapped to am exam table with two dogs testing products on him. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Hunters
When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and walk back into the woods. We could hear them, but never find them, so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began letting the air out of their tires! Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars
That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and beautiful. We don't have any around here, as they were all killed years ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where do you live that you still have cougars around? On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits ever so often. If we left things up to nature, there would be no overpopulation of deer, etc. The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear would keep things in balance. But of course, we all kow these animals are dangerous and will kill us. They will if we are stupid and aggrevate them. Run and that will trigger the preditor instinct. They have to be hungry before they will deal wth humans. My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road. I even talk to him, he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a stupid old woman. We even have a bear across the river in an old barn and he/she has never bothered anyone arund this area. In fact, you have to be lucky or really trying to catch sight of them. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
It's legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they're not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them off, while they drag them away, still kicking..Or the use a large net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a thrashing animal!) There's such great sportsmanship involved, it's hard to respect or even like these guys! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
I can't even bear the thought! It makes me sick!! I believe an eye for an eye in this case. Let's see how they like it!! - Original Message - From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters It's legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they're not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them off, while they drag them away, still kicking..Or the use a large net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a thrashing animal!) There's such great sportsmanship involved, it's hard to respect or even like these guys! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
There's something wrong, seriously wrong with people who can't wait to kill an animal. When we see a gorgeous, or ANY animal, we admire them, enjoy looking at them, and always wish that we had a camera handy - for those people it's the exact opposite, anything they see, they immediately want to kill, in order to own? Or what is it? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters I can't even bear the thought! It makes me sick!! I believe an eye for an eye in this case. Let's see how they like it!! - Original Message - From: Natalie mailto:at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters It's legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they're not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them off, while they drag them away, still kicking..Or the use a large net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a thrashing animal!) There's such great sportsmanship involved, it's hard to respect or even like these guys! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
That’s a hard one to answer……I think people seem to be more angry, less in control over their own lives, and that’s when they tend to be more cruel, showing their power over helpless people and animals! On the other hand, crazies have always been around, but we didn’t hear of the atrocities as quickly, if ever, thanks to cyberspace. At least with laws, whether they actually stop the horrible things from happening or not, one can at least try to prosecute…..without them, one couldn’t even try. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:50 AM To: dlgegg; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters You know, sometimes it seems we are progressing because of all the animal welfare movements and all the laws to protect animals. There are more and more people learning about abuse and taking a stand against it which is very encouraging. Yet it seems that in the past it was just plain common sense, decency, and compassion that kept us from needing so many of those laws to protect the animals. Sometimes I can't tell if people are getting worse or better regarding the treatment of animals. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net Date: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 4:49 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT SEEM TO LEARN. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it treat animals. Such disgusting cruelty. If there is reincarnation, guess who's going to be the prey in their next life? Maybe that way, they will learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change. ~b. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters So do Canada geese (mate for life). We live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here. We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. We actually recognize them every year because of certain markings, etc. When one loses a mate, they stay alone. I'm not sure if they ever find another life-mate or not. I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. It was sick. Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly fly up, they were so weak. Then these brave men would take potshots at them. Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields, dying a slow death. Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated pigeon at me. We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them humanely. It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty people amusing themselves. Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from THAT! On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com wrote: Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season. We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our fences to retrieve the bloody bodies. One afternoon the shotgun pellets ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
My hero! sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:17 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and walk back into the woods. We could hear them, but never find them, so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began letting the air out of their tires! Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars
We had a mountain lion sighting(people and a photo taken) in Greenwich, CT a few months ago...then, one was found dead, hit by a car - poor thing made it all the way here in all these month, and got killed by a car. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and beautiful. We don't have any around here, as they were all killed years ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where do you live that you still have cougars around? On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits ever so often. If we left things up to nature, there would be no overpopulation of deer, etc. The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear would keep things in balance. But of course, we all kow these animals are dangerous and will kill us. They will if we are stupid and aggrevate them. Run and that will trigger the preditor instinct. They have to be hungry before they will deal wth humans. My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road. I even talk to him, he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a stupid old woman. We even have a bear across the river in an old barn and he/she has never bothered anyone arund this area. In fact, you have to be lucky or really trying to catch sight of them. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons
I have a great one showing two bears having a picnic and arguing which wine goes best with a humans... -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons On 09-14, Bonnie Hogue wrote: This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out and put on my 'fridge. The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's exam table. The doctor stands nearby looking at the chart and saying, The bad news is you have advanced case humans...The good news is they've about run their course and you should be on the mend soon. Ha! LOVE IT! I have a cartoon that shows a human strapped to am exam table with two dogs testing products on him. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons
probably a Cabernet Sauvignon :0) - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons I have a great one showing two bears having a picnic and arguing which wine goes best with a humans... -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons On 09-14, Bonnie Hogue wrote: This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out and put on my 'fridge. The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's exam table. The doctor stands nearby looking at the chart and saying, The bad news is you have advanced case humans...The good news is they've about run their course and you should be on the mend soon. Ha! LOVE IT! I have a cartoon that shows a human strapped to am exam table with two dogs testing products on him. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
How horrible. On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Natalie wrote: It’s legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they’re not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them off, while they drag them away, still kicking….Or the use a large net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a thrashing animal!) There’s such great sportsmanship involved, it’s hard to respect or even like these guys! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
On 09-15, Natalie wrote: There's something wrong, seriously wrong with people who can't wait to kill an animal. When we see a gorgeous, or ANY animal, we admire them, enjoy looking at them, and always wish that we had a camera handy - for those people it's the exact opposite, anything they see, they immediately want to kill, in order to own? Or what is it? They've gotta be miserable, mentally sick, insecure little creeps to enjoy murdering innocent animals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
I have a video of this, and it's amazing, when we showed it in a lobby of an auditorium before a vote was taken on hiring these paid guns, very few people wanted to look, and if they did, they said that the deer must be killed, so what difference does it make on how... From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters How horrible. On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Natalie wrote: It's legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they're not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them off, while they drag them away, still kicking..Or the use a large net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a thrashing animal!) There's such great sportsmanship involved, it's hard to respect or even like these guys! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
Sick bastards.sorry but that's mild compared to what I'd really like to say. The HSUS does a lot of good work. Maybe someday soon they will tackle this one. My state rep tried to tell me (in a form letter of course) that animals have enough protection. If he's that stupid or thinks I am, then it scares me that he's in the position he's in! Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I have a video of this, and it’s amazing, when we showed it in a lobby of an auditorium before a vote was taken on hiring these paid guns, very few people wanted to look, and if they did, they said that the deer must be killed, so what difference does it make on how….. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters How horrible. On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Natalie wrote: It’s legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they’re not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them off, while they drag them away, still kicking….Or the use a large net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a thrashing animal!) There’s such great sportsmanship involved, it’s hard to respect or even like these guys! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep people from doing it though. On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters On 09-12, dot winkler wrote: Hysterical! L.O.L. I love it. The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least they are eating the deer. But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a creature to behold and so delicate. How can anyone have the heart to kill them? They are graceful and grace our woods and lands. To see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight. I don't see how anyone could do it. _ I could never kill a deer. Many deer come to our yard, and they are so beautiful. Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them. It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected. She still comes to our house, and still keeps up with her group. She's an amazing, brave little doe and we call her Tripod. Lorrie Tripod and she in our yard ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the same right to exist as we do. Don Hamilton DVM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
I think it gives them a sick sense of power. Karma karma karma! Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 09-15, Natalie wrote: There's something wrong, seriously wrong with people who can't wait to kill an animal. When we see a gorgeous, or ANY animal, we admire them, enjoy looking at them, and always wish that we had a camera handy - for those people it's the exact opposite, anything they see, they immediately want to kill, in order to own? Or what is it? They've gotta be miserable, mentally sick, insecure little creeps to enjoy murdering innocent animals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
Good for you! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and walk back into the woods. We could hear them, but never find them, so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began letting the air out of their tires! Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars
We have them too. I'm in Santa Rosa, Ca. about an hour north of San Francisco. It's a BIG metropolitan area, but because of development and the creeks in the area that allow cover, cougars have been spotted in people's back yards. I worry, but not for the people -- for the cougars. I hate the thought of someone shooting such a magnificent animal that is clearly in stress or it wouldn't be around a stinking town. I imagine they are eating possums, as they are everywhere, thanks to some nitwit who imported them from Texas or someplace for sport hunting. People... ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and beautiful. We don't have any around here, as they were all killed years ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where do you live that you still have cougars around? On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits ever so often. If we left things up to nature, there would be no overpopulation of deer, etc. The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear would keep things in balance. But of course, we all kow these animals are dangerous and will kill us. They will if we are stupid and aggrevate them. Run and that will trigger the preditor instinct. They have to be hungry before they will deal wth humans. My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road. I even talk to him, he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a stupid old woman. We even have a bear across the river in an old barn and he/she has never bothered anyone arund this area. In fact, you have to be lucky or really trying to catch sight of them. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
