Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
Basically, try anything in your refrigerator! But things I've found that sometimes worked: Fancy Feast Classic Chicken White Rose canned tuna (people tuna) Yogurt Cottage Cheese Gerber Stage 3 baby food-ham or chicken or beef or turkey Tuna water (from canned people tuna in water) Liverwurst Ham or prosciutto Kentucky Fried Chicken (boneless) Chicken soup None are recommended for long term use--but when you're basically just trying to get something in the cat, go for anything they want...Also, sometimes, just heating the food (not yogurt or cott cheese) a bit makes it have more of an aroma. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Payne Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten? Hello everyone! This is my first time using this forum :) I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two months ago. At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted plants in addition increasing lethargy. I took her to the vet where she was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV. We were told we'd have to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis. Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us. However, her appetite has been cause for worry. She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she eats). The last two days, though, she won't eat. I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail. I understand that the end may be near but I want to give everything a shot before I make that call. So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions! Thank you, -Amanda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
Dear Amanda, Here is a list of food I have been trying with my very picky Felv+, CRF stage 4, 16 yrs old cat: Can food: Soulistic glee fish based cans (Petco store brand, the crf group finds that it generally works works well to make cats to eat again) AvoDerm Tuna&Crab Fancy Feast, Classic tuna/salmon based can Canyon Creek Ranch, Trout & Catfish Weruva, Tuna & shirasu Tiki cat, Tuna BFF, Tuna Aspic Simply nourish (Petsmart store brand), tuna & potato stew, salmon & chicken stew, tuna & chicken stew Treat: whole life http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Life-Pet-Products-Natural/dp/B00ATWNJIY/ref=sr_1_4?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1367545823&sr=1-4 If none of above works, I would probably try syringe feeding to maintain Polli's weight. For our cat, after her weight was low to some point, she just stopped eating. But after we brought her weight back this week, she starts eating by herself again (even though her anemic level has been almost the same, pcv 9%-12%). Other possibility is to ask vet to prescribe appetite stimulants like Mirtazapine, which I heard works pretty well. The CRF group has a page talking about how to tempt cats to eat, although it is not particular for FeLV + cats, but the techniques mentioned work on our cat. http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm Hope this can help Polli... Catherine On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Amanda Payne wrote: > Hello everyone! > > This is my first time using this forum :) > > I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two > months ago. At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted > plants in addition increasing lethargy. I took her to the vet where she > was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV. We were told we'd have > to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis. > Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us. However, her appetite > has been cause for worry. She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli > ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she > eats). The last two days, though, she won't eat. I've offered her baby > food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats > but to no avail. I understand that the end may be near but I want to give > everything a shot before I make that call. > > So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no > to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions! > > Thank you, > -Amanda > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
Hello everyone! This is my first time using this forum :) I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two months ago. At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted plants in addition increasing lethargy. I took her to the vet where she was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV. We were told we'd have to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis. Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us. However, her appetite has been cause for worry. She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she eats). The last two days, though, she won't eat. I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail. I understand that the end may be near but I want to give everything a shot before I make that call. So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions! Thank you, -Amanda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two
Yes, I will. She sees my own vet next Monday for a consult. Thanks-Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 4:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two It's always a good idea to discuss any symptoms with Raja's vet. They may want to refer you to a veterinary ophthalmologist or other specialist just to confirm that nothing else is going on. On May 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It’s wonderful to have that worry alleviated so soon. I will try those foods, and the web site. I’ve seen Tiki Cat, and it does look delicious! Thanks again-Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had changed quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it indicating the progress of the disease. I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to me here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very appealing to them. This site has some good ideas: http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter, so as I said in my intro, I am new at this. I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage she is in, or anything else. Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I’ve tried different dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was small to begin with. Thanks so much! Chris C. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
That's wonderful news! Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Michele Fougeres To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :) Hi Dorlis, thank you so much for your message :) Abelardo is showing great progress, he has a huge appetite and is very playful, one would never guess he's FeLV positive. When we rescued him, he slept all day and seemed to be tired all the time. He had a urethral blockage and was hospitalized for 5 days. He has shown so much improvement that our vet's hope are high, we don't know how long this is going to last but we are so happy. Thanks for taking the time to send me this message, I'm looking forward to hear from the rest of the group. Michéle > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:19:47 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :) > CC: atomicbetti...@hotmail.com > > There are others with more experience with young cats and you will be hearing > from them soon. > > Michele Fougeres wrote: > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a > > male cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, > > and that he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's > > FeLV positive and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, > > hematocrit, hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was FeLV > > positive > was an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my > country of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he > has > been fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s > possible that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal > life. My research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats usually > live for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this being > a > false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error is > very small. I’ve read about cats that > fight the virus and are able to eliminate it from their organisms, later > testing negative for FeLV. I don’t want to have false expectations, but I want > to hang on to whatever hope there’s still out there for him. > > > > We've started him on a > biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 weeks with Yatren Caseína > (an > immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t know if it’s sold in the USA), > which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. This is supposed to help him > increase his white blood cells. We are > hoping this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking > Isoprinosine and > B complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I > don’t know if my cat is receiving the best treatment or what should I do to > increase the odds of him not having to suffer because of this terrible > illness. > I’m willing to buy medicine from another country if needed. > > > > The vet advised to test my other > cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I have a 9 year old cat who's in > perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he shared the litter box and bowls with > the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 hours, I didn't even think about this as > a risk, and now I feel terribly guilty for placing my beloved pet in danger. > If he isn't infected, then I > should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in Ecuador > yet. I have to see if there are > ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and have it sent to Ecuador through a > merchant. > > > > I want to keep the FeLV positive cat > with me, as chances are no one will want him or will take care of him the way > he needs to. We have grown so fond of him, he’s such an adorable, loving cat. > I thought about dividing my apartment so the sick cat will not have to > remain confined in just one room. I can have the cats’ alternate spaces every > week, after disinfecting everything properly with Clorox and not letting them > share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you think this will be a good idea? > > > > I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all going > through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we see even > a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read about your > experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only wants to sleep > and not be bothered, and others when he's happy and more active. He has kept > a good appetite overall, that gives me hope. > > Thanks for all your help, support and advice. I'm glad to be here. > > Michéle > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleuk
Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
Hi Dorlis, thank you so much for your message :) Abelardo is showing great progress, he has a huge appetite and is very playful, one would never guess he's FeLV positive. When we rescued him, he slept all day and seemed to be tired all the time. He had a urethral blockage and was hospitalized for 5 days. He has shown so much improvement that our vet's hope are high, we don't know how long this is going to last but we are so happy. Thanks for taking the time to send me this message, I'm looking forward to hear from the rest of the group. Michéle > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:19:47 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :) > CC: atomicbetti...@hotmail.com > > There are others with more experience with young cats and you will be hearing > from them soon. > > Michele Fougeres wrote: > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a > > male cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, > > and that he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's > > FeLV positive and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, > > hematocrit, hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was FeLV > > positive > was an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my > country of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he > has > been fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s > possible that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal > life. My research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats usually > live for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this being > a > false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error is > very small. I’ve read about cats that > fight the virus and are able to eliminate it from their organisms, later > testing negative for FeLV. I don’t want to have false expectations, but I want > to hang on to whatever hope there’s still out there for him. > > > > We've started him on a > biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 weeks with Yatren Caseína > (an > immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t know if it’s sold in the USA), > which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. This is supposed to help him > increase his white blood cells. We are > hoping this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking > Isoprinosine and > B complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I > don’t know if my cat is receiving the best treatment or what should I do to > increase the odds of him not having to suffer because of this terrible > illness. > I’m willing to buy medicine from another country if needed. > > > > The vet advised to test my other > cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I have a 9 year old cat who's in > perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he shared the litter box and bowls with > the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 hours, I didn't even think about this as > a risk, and now I feel terribly guilty for placing my beloved pet in danger. > If he isn't infected, then I > should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in Ecuador > yet. I have to see if there are > ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and have it sent to Ecuador through a > merchant. > > > > I want to keep the FeLV positive cat > with me, as chances are no one will want him or will take care of him the way > he needs to. We have grown so fond of him, he’s such an adorable, loving cat. > I thought about dividing my apartment so the sick cat will not have to > remain confined in just one room. I can have the cats’ alternate spaces every > week, after disinfecting everything properly with Clorox and not letting them > share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you think this will be a good idea? > > > > I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all going > through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we see even > a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read about your > experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only wants to sleep > and not be bothered, and others when he's happy and more active. He has kept > a good appetite overall, that gives me hope. > > Thanks for all your help, support and advice. I'm glad to be here. > > Michéle > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org